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[QUOTE=retaxis]Parker may be a 'defensive liability' but his opponents are always bigger defensive liabilities when playing him if you get what I mean.[/QUOTE]
Only because outside of Rondo, Paul, Williams, Westbrook, Conley and some specialists defense at the PG position is absolutely disgusting.
[QUOTE=The JKidd Kid]Only because outside of Rondo, Paul, Williams, Westbrook, Conley and some specialists defense at the PG position is absolutely disgusting.[/QUOTE]
You give what you take. Parker is 1st option. His defense is better then Kobes 2guard defense but lets not go there (we all know how many Kobe lovers there are here)
[QUOTE=Horde of Temujin]Dwight is not even a top 30 player in the league.[/QUOTE]
Even last season Dwight was a top 20 player in the league. And he's was top 2/3 the 4 years before that.
[QUOTE=Unbiased_one]Even last season Dwight was a top 20 player in the league. And he's was top 2/3 the 4 years before that.[/QUOTE]
Dwight is an animal in this day and age. No one can block/distort shot like him in the paint. No one can rebound like him and sure as hell no one can draw fouls like him :oldlol:
[QUOTE=The JKidd Kid]That is one of the worst top 10s I've seen in a long time.
When Healthy
1. Lebron (Best player in the league)
2. Durant (30 PPG on 50, 40, 90)
3. Dwight (Dominant defensive presence)
4. Kobe (Amazing scorer plus elite D)
5. Paul (20 and 10 with great D)
6. Duncan (Amazing post game and dominating D)
7. Westbrook (Great all around freak athlete)
8. Melo (Most versatile scorer in the league)
9. Williams (Most versatile player at PG)
10. Rose (Freak athlete and great finisher)[/QUOTE]
kobe and elite D never belonged in the same sentence despite the accolades. his D last year was terrible.
[QUOTE=retaxis]You give what you take. Parker is 1st option. [B]His defense is better then Kobes 2guard defense[/B] but lets not go there (we all know how many Kobe lovers there are here)[/QUOTE]
Im no Kobe fan, in fact theres probably no player in the league that I hate more but Kobe has been a lock down defender his entire career. Theres a reason hes made multiple all-defensive teams, which are voted on by coaches, unlike DPOY. Parker is an awful defender. Hes short, he cant jump, he weighs less than I do. Sure Kobe has gotten lazy on defense as he ages, but hes still miles ahead of Parker. I would almost consider taking Steve Nash over Parker on defense, thats how bad he is.
Parker is only a 1st option because the greatest coach of all time has designed his entire offense to get Parker open shots. No other player in the league has that sort of luxury, the only one that comes close is Dwight in Orlando, and even then it wasnt at the same extent as Parker. Pop has taken bona-fide scrubs in Splitter and Diaw and made them look like servicable NBA starters. I honestly think that Pop could make Jose Calderon look like prime Steve Nash. Thats why I question Parkers actual skill.
If kb24 was playing elite D they would not have just crept into the PO. The defining moment of his pathetic D was when he let Jrue Holiday in for the easy lay up for game winner. I overlooked his pathetic D throughout the season when everyone was making 3 pointers over him and doing what they liked on the O side but that play.....
[QUOTE=boozehound]kobe and elite D never belonged in the same sentence despite the accolades. his D last year was terrible.[/QUOTE]
I think that the 100s of NBA coaches that have voted him to All-Defensive teams throughout his career know more than someone on the internet that probably watched less than 10 lakers games last season.
[QUOTE=The JKidd Kid]I think that the 100s of NBA coaches that have voted him to All-Defensive teams throughout his career know more than someone on the internet that probably watched less than 10 lakers games last season.[/QUOTE]
so kobe played elite D last year is that what you are saying?
[QUOTE=retaxis]If kb24 was playing elite D they would not have just crept into the PO. The defining moment of his pathetic D was when he let Jrue Holiday in for the easy lay up for game winner. I overlooked his pathetic D throughout the season when everyone was making 3 pointers over him and doing what they liked on the O side but that play.....[/QUOTE]
If you think that one player on the PERIMETER playing elite D is going to dramatically change a teams play-off position, especially in the west, then you need to do a little research.
[QUOTE=retaxis]so kobe played elite D last year is that what you are saying?[/QUOTE]
I didnt watch enough Lakers games last season to form a valid opinion, and I doubt you did also, so Im going to assume that he played at the same quality he did the seasons before, because his defense isnt going to magically drop off in one year.
[QUOTE=The JKidd Kid]I didnt watch enough Lakers games last season to form a valid opinion, and [b]I doubt you did also[/b], so Im going to assume that he played at the same quality he did the seasons before, because his defense isnt going to magically drop off in one year.[/QUOTE]
watched enough buddy
[QUOTE=retaxis]watched enough buddy[/QUOTE]
I doubt it. Coaches say he is an elite defender, so I choose to beleive them instead of your judgement from the 10 Lakers games you watched last season. No Offense.
[QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker]There still isn't a PF in the league I would take over Duncan when it matters. Even at 37 and limited minutes, he is the best.[/QUOTE]
THIS
Duncan always gets overlooked.
[QUOTE=The JKidd Kid]I doubt it. Coaches say he is an elite defender, so I choose to beleive them instead of your judgement from the 10 Lakers games you watched last season. No Offense.[/QUOTE]
sure thing whatever you say this is a discussion board
[QUOTE=The JKidd Kid]I think that the 100s of NBA coaches that have voted him to All-Defensive teams throughout his career know more than someone on the internet that probably watched less than 10 lakers games last season.[/QUOTE]
Kobe has not been deserving of all-defensive team honors in years and definitely NOT last year when he was a sieve on defense. It's a travesty to all the true defensive specialists in the league - he's gotten them on pure reputation in recent years.
Kobe leaves his man wide open all the time.
[QUOTE=retaxis]we haven't had one of these in a while and everyone can create their list with whatever assumptions based on health e.g. westbrook/rose/kobe for [b]this upcoming season[/b]
1. LBJ
2. Durant
3. Howard
4. Carmelo
5. Westbrook
6. Rondo
7. Rose
8. TP
9. Wade
10. Paul George[/QUOTE]
No CP3 means your list is trash