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Weird to say this but, OP:applause:
The Cavs made 2 stupid picks now with Bennett and waiters..
[QUOTE=coin24]Weird to say this but, OP:applause:
The Cavs made 2 stupid picks now with Bennett and waiters..[/QUOTE]
Waiters is fine. He's a good player and clearly worthy of his pick. I don't get the hate. Drummond isn't exactly setting the world on fire, neither is Barnes or T-Rob.
Gotta give fat boy a chance. he's not playing 30 mins with 12 FGA a game. And its also not like Len, Porter, Noel, and Zeller are looking like studs or anything.
both waiters and bennet just horrible picks.. not sure what the cavs were smoking that day
agreed. waiters is garbage.. olidapo wud have been the smart and obvious choice here by the cavs
Lets give the guy more than ten games before he passes Kwame. Thanks.
I have to laugh at the reactionaries through the first two weeks of the season who've decided that Bennett is officially the worst pick of all-time. The problem is, it's way too early to know who from this draft will eventually pan out (and that goes for Bennett as well), so things get awkward when it comes to them pronouncing who the Cavs should have taken instead of Bennett.
[I]"Bennett clearly stinks... worse than Kwame. They OBVIOUSLY should have taken... Oladipo!"
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:oldlol:
You mean the guy averaging a scorching 38% from the field while playing backup SG with the Magic? When we took a SG last year 4th overall who made First Team All-Rookie and has averaged 19 points on 46% shooting, 5 rebounds, 4 assists and 2 steals in his last four complete games played?
I'm not saying Oladipo won't be a good player, but we have no idea how good... just like we have no idea with Bennett. Or Len. Or McLemore. Or whoever.
Hell, I don't know how good Waiters is going to end up being and he's been in the league over a year. We can only now go back and start looking at mistakes made in the 2011 draft. Redoing it now would look very different than redoing it this time last year. These players are still growing each season (or regressing).
I was on record as wanting Noel, but then again that was back when he was being predicted to come back from his injury around Christmas. Now, he's out for the season. So, maybe that's the reason he dropped. The injury was more severe than first anticipated.
There is such a rush in this day and age to label a guy. There was a time when Tristan Thompson was called a wasted pick, too.
Bill Simmons flat-out said on his podcast leading into the 2012 draft that the Cavs screwed up royally by taking Thompson, because it pretty much prevented them from taking the best player left on the board the following year... Thomas Robinson. [I][B]A lot [/B][/I]of people were making that argument on here too.
Nobody remembers that, though.
Bennett is going head to head with the all time #1 pick bust of LaRue Martin. But even LaRue scored 4-5 ppg and lasted 5 years in the league. Cavs have made some highly questionable draft picks. You don't experiment with lottery picks.
[QUOTE=senelcoolidge]Bennett is going head to head with the all time #1 pick bust of LaRue Martin. But even LaRue scored 4-5 ppg and lasted 5 years in the league. Cavs have made some highly questionable draft picks. You don't experiment with lottery picks.[/QUOTE]
and so it continues...
among other picks who has played well enough.. is this enough sample of games I hope he gets it straight Bennett.. Hell evan turner it took him what ? before he turn out this way.. not all star level but good enough.. sure bennett is struggling and honestly i am a bit disappointed but i guess we have to wait and see maybe after 1 season to say if he is a bust.
Idk what people are freaking out about, not a single player from this draft class is playing very well except MCW and a grand total of 0 people thought he'd be that good.
[QUOTE=KyrieTheFuture]Idk what people are freaking out about, not a single player from this draft class is playing very well except MCW and a grand total of 0 people thought he'd be that good.[/QUOTE]
...and the Cavs were never going to take a PG.
That was sort of my point, although mine was made in a long, rambling post as usual. The three guys who everyone thought were in the running for the top pick were Noel (out of the year with a bad knee injury), Len (done nothing) and McLemore (has been mediocre at best).
And, none of this is a surprise... Because it's way too early to judge these guys, too. For some reason, it's important to people that they label Bennett. It doesn't matter what the other guys are doing and that all of the guys in contention either haven't played or have struggled similarly.
The biggest difference between Bennett and these others is he's playing behind a guy who was picked 4th overall just a couple years ago and is having a breakout season. So, AB isn't getting the kind of minutes necessary to put up 8 points on 38% shooting.
Cleveland should have picked Harrison Barnes and Jonas Valanciunas. Should have went Oladipo this year. I think you take the best player every time, never draft on need (and wtf does Cleveland need a tweener?? Too slow to be a SF and too small to be a PF).
[QUOTE=KyrieTheFuture]Idk what people are freaking out about, not a single player from this draft class is playing very well except MCW and a grand total of 0 people thought he'd be that good.[/QUOTE]
oladipo has looked like he will be a solid pick once he get's his turn overs down (he's learning a new position at point). Stephen Adams looks pretty good so far. Tim Hardaway looks like a good pick, Olynck looks solid, Wolters is contributing. Noone has looked like a super star yet but guys have shown they will be solid picks. Don't act like Bennet hasn't been far worse than the others so far
[QUOTE=fos]Cleveland should have picked Harrison Barnes and Jonas Valanciunas. Should have went Oladipo this year. I think you take the best player every time, never draft on need (and wtf does Cleveland need a tweener?? Too slow to be a SF and too small to be a PF).[/QUOTE]
This.
I'm big on the take the best player route also, can always make trades later..
[B][SIZE="3"]Anthony Bennett mid season update
3.8 PPG, 2.8 RPG, 31.2% FG, 0.3 APG[/SIZE][/B]
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Bad timing to bump the thread bud.
[QUOTE=Uncle Drew]Bad timing to bump the thread bud.[/QUOTE]
It is never a bad time to bump this thread.
No matter what Bennett is a guy picked #1 overall that is already a NEGATIVE ASSET before the end of his rookie year. Guy sucks and will never be good.
No team would even give up an early 2nd round pick in 2014 for Anthony Bennet, a #1 pick overall. Nice job.
[QUOTE=TonyMontana]It is never a bad time to bump this thread.
No matter what Bennett is a guy picked #1 overall that is already a NEGATIVE ASSET before the end of his rookie year. Guy sucks and will never be good.
No team would even give up an early 2nd round pick in 2014 for Anthony Bennet, a #1 pick overall. Nice job.[/QUOTE]
Nope, bad timing. Try again in a few months. Or better: never. Get back on your alt.
[QUOTE=Uncle Drew]Nope, bad timing. Try again in a few months. Or better: never. Get back on your alt.[/QUOTE]
nice edit. i can only imagine how awkward you are in real life without the availability of the edit.
Anthony Bennett is by far the worst use of the #1 overall pick in nba history and nothing he has done has said otherwise. TonyMontana making this declaration before he played even a single game is just one example of my intellectual genius and superior genetics.
[QUOTE=TonyMontana]nice edit. i can only imagine how awkward you are in real life without the availability of the edit.
Anthony Bennett is by far the worst use of the #1 overall pick in nba history and nothing he has done has said otherwise. TonyMontana making this declaration before he played even a single game is just one example of my intellectual genius and superior genetics.[/QUOTE]
AB is balling and you know it. So, in a few months, this thread will just end up like all of your (and those include the threads you created on your shit alts) other threads: in the garbage bin.
OP rivals silkktheshockers greatness:applause: :applause: :bowdown:
OP looking really smart tbh
InB4 Cleveland picks another Oden :facepalm
[QUOTE=Uncle Drew]AB is balling and you know it. So, in a few months, this thread will just end up like all of your (and those include the threads you created on your shit alts) other threads: in the garbage bin.[/QUOTE]
you got ETHERED fakkit
[QUOTE=JtotheIzzo]I don't get the negativity?
Freshman stats:
16/8 with 54%/38%/71% shooting while playing hurt the second half of the year. (these numbers are likely higher too if he wasn't kept out of the bulk of a few games in the second half of the season)
6'8" 240 is now a tweener? The kid is 1" shorter than Karl Malone
He's got a 7'1" wingspan and a 39" vertical.
Basically he has the in-game pedigree and the body pedigree (much TOO MUCH is being made about the height).
AND he has a great f*cking attitude and a 100% team first guy who is not afraid to lead.
He measures up in every metric, yet people what to say stupid shit like he can't shoot, because of a couple of half hearted tosses while mic'd up after a long interview in the middle of an injury are a better marker than shooting 38% from 3 for the season.
We need a punch people in the face emoticon around here.[/QUOTE]
:coleman:
Pretty much any time he was given extended minutes on the floor, he produced at an acceptable rate for a rookie big getting acclimated to the league. I think he scored in double figures every time he was given over 20 minutes of playing time, including a couple double-doubles. Unfortunately, he only received those kinds of minutes 8-9 times all season long. All of this "bust" talk when the kid really hasn't even been given a chance to pass or fail personifies the impatience of sports fans today.
Kid still has a ton of upside and now that the pressure will be off and Tristan could be on his way out, he'll have some room to grow. His ability to step out on the perimeter could also really compliment Embiid, the likely No. 1 pick.
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