LeBron Faces Significantly Worse Opposition than Kobe/MJ In The Playoffs

[QUOTE=Doranku]Yes, the competition you face in the playoffs is nothing but a "random stat". :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Oh god. We have stupid comments like this after Lebron wins 2 championships. Imagine what will happen if Lebron didn't win.

And it is a random stat. What does it say anyway? Lebron is still below Jordan and still a better player than Kobe.

Its a fact that he never won a ring when Rose healthy.

[QUOTE=Nash]Oh god. We have stupid comments like this after Lebron wins 2 championships. Imagine what will happen if Lebron didn't win.

And it is a random stat. What does it say anyway? Lebron is still below Jordan and still a better player than Kobe.[/QUOTE]

Seriously. Even after LeBron wins a 3rd championship and another MVP, the same bullshit will be spewing from the mouths of these kobetards.

[QUOTE=RagaZ]Its a fact that he never won a ring when Rose healthy.[/QUOTE]
Has Rose even been to the Finals or beat Miami in the Playoffs?

[QUOTE=RagaZ]Its a fact that he never won a ring when Rose healthy.[/QUOTE]
And he never won with a healthy Robert Horry either.

[QUOTE=NumberSix]LeBron > Jordan (8 pages of ">") Kobe.[/QUOTE]
mj can lead a team to the success unlike Leflop

When you need a game 7 to beat grandpa Duncan, injured Parker, washup Ginobli and DPOY Diaw you know you suck. Lets not mention a miracle 3 from the best three point shooter of all time to save your @ss after clanking one.

[QUOTE=PickernRoller]When you need a game 7 to beat grandpa Duncan, injured Parker, washup Ginobli and DPOY Diaw you know you suck. Lets not mention a miracle 3 from the best three point shooter of all time to save your @ss after clanking one.[/QUOTE]

Yes, being the NBA champions... it means you suck.

Some people... :facepalm

[QUOTE=PickernRoller][B]When you need a game 7 to beat grandpa Duncan, injured Parker, washup Ginobli and DPOY Diaw you know you suck.[/B] Lets not mention a miracle 3 from the best three point shooter of all time to save your @ss after clanking one.[/QUOTE]
Heat were down 10 before lebron brought them back to give them a chance to even tie it. And then what happened the next game? Compared to another star going 6-24 in the decisive game.

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[QUOTE=red1]Heat were down 10 before lebron brought them back to give them a chance to even tie it. And then what happened the next game? Compared to another star going 6-24 in the decisive game.

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LEBRON IS WEAK :banana:

[QUOTE=red1]Heat were down 10 before lebron brought them back to give them a chance to even tie it. And then what happened the next game? Compared to another star going 6-24 in the decisive game.

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Yeah, LeBron was great in Game 7 and Kobe played poorly in Game 7...

Yet Kobe was great in Games 1-6 while LeBron was an embarrassment in Games 1-6. Dude was being effectively guarded by Boris Diaw and was getting the Rondo treatment on the perimeter. :oldlol:

One game doesn't beat the other six. Sorry, bud.

[QUOTE=Doranku]Yeah, LeBron was great in Game 7 and Kobe played poorly in Game 7...

Yet Kobe was great in Games 1-6 while LeBron was an embarrassment in Games 1-6. Dude was being effectively guarded by Boris Diaw and was getting the Rondo treatment on the perimeter. :oldlol:

One game doesn't beat the other six. Sorry, bud.[/QUOTE]
WTF are you talking about?
Game 1 - 18/18/10 Would'be been an amazing game, if it wasn't for TP's GW
Game 2 - 17/8/7/3/3 (blowout) Pretty good all round game
Game 3 - 15/11/5/2 Absolutely horrendous game
Game 4 - 33/11/4/2/2 Great game
Game 5 - 25/6/8/4 Pretty good all round game (struggled to shoot though)
Game 6 - 32/10/11/3/1 (6 TOV) Great game
Game 7 - 37/12/4/2 Great game

He had 3 great games and 2 good games. The same as Kobe. Although Kobe choked in the most important game.

[QUOTE=aj1987]WTF are you talking about?
Game 1 - 18/18/10 Would'be been an amazing game, if it wasn't for TP's GW
Game 2 - 17/8/7/3/3 (blowout) Pretty good all round game
Game 3 - 15/11/5/2 Absolutely horrendous game
Game 4 - 33/11/4/2/2 Great game
Game 5 - 25/6/8/4 Pretty good all round game (struggled to shoot though)
Game 6 - 32/10/11/3/1 (6 TOV) Great game
Game 7 - 37/12/4/2 Great game

He had 3 great games and 2 good games. The same as Kobe. Although Kobe choked in the most important game.[/QUOTE]

The fact that you called Game 5 a "good all around game" just proves to me that you didn't watch the game. :oldlol:

Lebron has played some irrelevant teams.

It's not LeBron fault that he was able to take those wins away from those teams in the regular season:confusedshrug:

RS is a part of the playoffs. Should I blame Kobe for not being able to put himself in a better position?

[QUOTE=Trollsmasher]It's not LeBron fault that he was able to take those wins away from those teams in the regular season:confusedshrug:

RS is a part of the playoffs. Should I blame Kobe for not being able to put himself in a better position?[/QUOTE]


Unless you expect Kobe to convince league management to move the Lakers into the Eastern Conference, it wouldn't be possible to put himself in a better position.

Kobe has been the #1 seed in his Conference more times than LeBron has and has never faced a team below 44 wins in the playoffs. LeBron has played 8 such teams. :wtf:

[QUOTE=Doranku][B]MJ's opponents:
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Average wins - [B]53.54[/B]
Average offensive ranking - [B]8.86[/B]
Average defensive ranking - [B]8.46[/B]

[B]Kobe's opponents:[/B]

Average wins - [COLOR="Red"][B]54.42[/B][/COLOR]
Average offensive ranking - [COLOR="Red"][B]8.65[/B][/COLOR]
Average defensive ranking - [COLOR="Red"][B]8.12[/B][/COLOR]

[B]LeBron's opponents:
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Average wins - [COLOR="Green"][B]50.08[/B][/COLOR]
Average offensive ranking - [COLOR="Green"][B]13.04[/B] [/COLOR]
Average defensive ranking - [COLOR="Green"][B]8.60[/B]
[/COLOR]

All face comparable defenses, but LeBron faces much worse overall and offensively capable teams.

What do we make of this, ISH? :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]

So it turns out when you team up with your competition the remaining competition is likely to be weaker?

Is anyone actually surprised by this? :confusedshrug:

[QUOTE=Doranku]Unless you expect Kobe to convince league management to move the Lakers into the Eastern Conference, it wouldn't be possible to put himself in a better position.

Kobe has been the #1 seed in his Conference more times than LeBron has and has never faced a team below 44 wins in the playoffs. LeBron has played 8 such teams. :wtf:[/QUOTE]
As I said, Kobe is not good at winning games in RS, putting himself in a worse position. Not LeBron's fault.

[QUOTE=russwest0]So it turns out when you team up with your competition the remaining competition is likely to be weaker?

Is anyone actually surprised by this? :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]

Amusingly enough, the majority of the shitty teams LeBron has played were when he was in Cleveland.

[QUOTE=Trollsmasher]As I said, Kobe is not good at winning games in RS, putting himself in a worse position. Not LeBron's fault.[/QUOTE]

Are you f*cking retarded? :biggums:

[QUOTE=Doranku]The fact that you called Game 5 a "good all around game" just proves to me that you didn't watch the game. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
It was pretty much over in the 3rd, when the Spurs closed out the 3rd Q with 12-14 points in ~2 minutes. They shot like 60+%. Wade, James, Allen and Bosh combined for ~90 points and the Heat still lost. The Spurs were red hot that game. Green and Manu killed the Heat. It didn't help that Chalmers and the rest of the team played like shit.

BTW, if you didn't read the part below the stats, I said he had 3 great games and 2 good ones. 1 & 2 were good. 4, 6, & 7 were great. Pretty far from "LeBron was an embarrassment in Games 1-6" :facepalm. I'm guessing that you're the one who didn't watch the Finals.

Your standards for Bron are low if you think game 2 was a good game

[QUOTE=chazzy]Your standards for Bron are low if you think game 2 was a good game[/QUOTE]
I genuinely that that he was going to choke ('11) and I had the Spurs winning in 6. 25/11/7/2/1 on 53% TS is pretty damn good, if you're expecting him to average 18/8/7 or something like that.

That being said, in the first half of that game, Lebron was bricking and was invisible on the defensive end. In the second half, he turned it up and scored 13/7/3/2/2 (one of the blocks was on Splitter and 4/1/3/1/1 in the first half). He was pretty active defensively and helped Chalmers, Miller, Allen, etc a couple of good shots. If he pulled a Houdini, Miami would've lost and would've been down 0-2.

The trolling is really getting out of hand. Holy cow, some people have no life whatsoever. :cheers:

[QUOTE=aj1987]It was pretty much over in the 3rd, when the Spurs closed out the 3rd Q with 12-14 points in ~2 minutes. They shot like 60+%. Wade, James, Allen and Bosh combined for ~90 points and the Heat still lost. The Spurs were red hot that game. Green and Manu killed the Heat. It didn't help that Chalmers and the rest of the team played like shit.

BTW, if you didn't read the part below the stats, I said he had 3 great games and 2 good ones. 1 & 2 were good. 4, 6, & 7 were great. Pretty far from "LeBron was an embarrassment in Games 1-6" :facepalm. I'm guessing that you're the one who didn't watch the Finals.[/QUOTE]

You gave the exact same descriptions for both Games 2 and 5. How am I supposed to know which one you were referring to? :oldlol:

Regardless, as chazzy said, your standards are pretty low if you think game 2 was a good game.

the only thing i took out of this thread was that Lebron played against better defenses than Kobe and MJ.

[QUOTE=I<3NBA]the only thing i took out of this thread was that Lebron played against better defenses than Kobe and MJ.[/QUOTE]

Then you're an idiot, because the higher (numerically) the ranking, the worse defenses were played.

And LeBron faced the numerically highest ranked defenses. :oldlol:

[QUOTE=Doranku]Then you're an idiot, because the higher (numerically) the ranking, the worse defenses were played.

And LeBron faced the numerically highest ranked defenses. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
:lol

damn, lebron stans being slaughtered all over the boards today
their stupidity is being exposed big time