[quote=Dictator]Dude, catholic and christian is pretty different.
Christian is strictly old and new testament.
Catholic ties in with the pope, and vatican city.[/quote]
catholics are christians.
the pope is christian.
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[quote=Dictator]Dude, catholic and christian is pretty different.
Christian is strictly old and new testament.
Catholic ties in with the pope, and vatican city.[/quote]
catholics are christians.
the pope is christian.
[QUOTE=CelticBaller]I think lowly of people who don't believe that evolution is real. I am sorry but it really irks me.
Once I was arguing with this kid, and his arguments was if evolution is real, and we came from monkeys, why are there monkeys still out there? Hey idiot, dogs came from wolves, and there still many species of wolves out there :facepalm[/QUOTE]
Wrong answer. The correct one is that "we don't come from monkeys; we share a common ancestry with them".
[QUOTE=riseagainst]a theory is a hypothesis; a law is a proven fact, at least in the universe that we know of. So a law is the closest thing to certainty.
Theory: theory of relativity
Law: Law of thermodynamics, law of conservation of mass/energy.
and there is no theory of gravity. Gravity has been proven to exist.
:coleman:[/QUOTE]
You just prove why people who says evolution is a certainty and the people who says creationism is the certainty are both idiots.
Everything you said defined and differentiate theory from law perfectly. What people that didnt actually read darwins theory of evolution. I am like "hello" that theory is more fulls of holes that the people shot in the hood.
[QUOTE=Bandito][B]You just prove why people who says evolution is a certainty and the people who says creationism is the certainty are both idiots. [/B]
Everything you said defined and differentiate theory from law perfectly. What people that didnt actually read darwins theory of evolution. I am like "hello" that theory is more fulls of holes that the people shot in the hood.[/QUOTE]
Except the ones who say evolution is a certainty are not as big as idiots as the ones who say creationism is a certainty, am I right?
Evolution is a certainty, get over it.
[QUOTE=miller-time]Well the effects of gravity are easily observable, evolution is a little bit more abstract and less self evident. It is easier to turn a blind eye and remain willfully ignorant and allow faith based reasoning to supersede the evidence for it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=-p.tiddy-]nah...if you don't believe in evolution then you are just uneducated...if you don't believe in gravity then you're clinically insane[/QUOTE]
True enough. My post assumes that one has a basic high-school education. If someone has been taught evolution in school and still refuses to "believe" in it then truly that would make them an idiot.
[QUOTE=miller-time]And if I said "Christianity says it is acceptable to murder people in their sleep" you would just let me continue believing that? My interpretation is acceptable because you are cool with any wild interpretation? Maybe. But what if I said "Christianity says it is acceptable to murder people in their sleep therefore we should ban it" are you still not going to defend your belief, or because any misinterpretation is cool any response to that misinterpretation is cool too? What if I said "Christianity says it is acceptable to murder people in their sleep therefore I am going to start murdering Christians in their sleep" is that response also still cool or would you correct me then? At what point do you say "hold on, I think you might have it wrong, that isn't what Christianity is about"?[/QUOTE]
At no point. People are entitled to whatever they want to believe. Nothing I say is going to change that . I don't feel the need to force my beliefs onto others. That doesn't do anything for me. Also, did you just compare believing in Evolution to Christians being allowed killing each other in their sleep? lol....I simply said that it's acceptable to not believe in evolution. You aren't open minded if you are shocked and offended when you encounter viewpoints that don't match your own
[QUOTE=Dictator]Dude, catholic and christian is pretty different.
Christian is strictly old and new testament.
Catholic ties in with the pope, and vatican city.[/QUOTE]
you do realize that every christian faith (outside of eastern orthodox and coptic) is an outgrowth of Catholicism? All western Christian traditions are rooted in Catholicism for 1000 years.
[QUOTE=Dictator]Dude, catholic and christian is pretty different.
Christian is strictly old and new testament.
Catholic ties in with the pope, and vatican city.[/QUOTE]
There are 2 main branches of Christianity
1. Catholicism
2. Protestantism
Catholicism is the largest and most organized. It is centralized in the Vatican and lead by the Pope. At its peak the Pope was the most powerful political force in europe, with a real army. (also they could just excommunicate a king or lord the disagreed with, and the superstitious peasants at the time would have turned against their lord/king)
Protestants are basically everything that is not Catholic, including but not limited to Anglicans, Episcopalians, Methodists, Baptists, Evangelical, Lutherans, etc.
There were 2 great schisms in Christian history.
1. martin Luther (a catholic priest) saw that the catholic church was selling indulgences (basically get out of hell cards) to rich lords and basically allowing rich people to get away with sinning. He was pissed at this and that the catholic church was so rich while so many catholic peasants were dirt poor. He started the protestant reformation, believing that the church had been corrupted by money. He kept preaching about the evils of the church and refused the popes order to stop and retract his criticisms. The Pope excommunicated him and the Holy Roman Emperor condemned him as an outlaw.
2. King Henry the 8th married the sister of the emperor of spain. Henry wanted to annul the marriage. The Pope thought that the emperor of spain was more powerful and refused his request for an annulment. So Henry created the church of england, and is why England and America today is mostly protestant.
[QUOTE=riseagainst][B]a theory is a hypothesis[/B]; a law is a proven fact, at least in the universe that we know of. So a law is the closest thing to certainty.
Theory: theory of relativity
Law: Law of thermodynamics, law of conservation of mass/energy.
and there is no theory of gravity. Gravity has been proven to exist.
:coleman:[/QUOTE]
wrong.
A theory is a hypothesis with a lot of evidence behind it.
A scientific theory already has a very high standard of evidence requirement
A hypothesis has no testing behind it/supporting its accuracy.
They are not the same thing
To everyone quoting me:
Yes catholics are christian but not all christians are catholics.
[QUOTE=riseagainst]creationism and evolution are both theories. One has evidence, the other is all faith. [B]But even the one with the evidence is still called a theory. It just comes down to what the thread says: "believe"[/B].[/QUOTE]
Scientific Theory
[QUOTE]A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on knowledge that has been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experimentation.[1][2] Scientists create scientific theories from hypotheses that have been corroborated through the scientific method, then gather evidence to test their accuracy. As with all forms of scientific knowledge, scientific theories are inductive in nature and aim for predictive and explanatory force.[3][4]
The strength of a scientific theory is related to the diversity of phenomena it can explain, which is measured by its ability to make falsifiable predictions with respect to those phenomena. Theories are improved as more evidence is gathered, so that accuracy in prediction improves over time. Scientists use theories as a foundation to gain further scientific knowledge, as well as to accomplish goals such as inventing technology or curing disease.
Scientific theories are the most reliable, rigorous, and comprehensive form of scientific knowledge.[3] This is significantly different from the word "theory" in common usage, which implies that something is unsubstantiated or speculative.[5][/QUOTE]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory[/url]
There is an ocean of difference between a hypothesis and a scientific theory.
[QUOTE]Scientific theories are the most reliable, rigorous, and comprehensive form of scientific knowledge.[/QUOTE]
You dont have to believe in the theory of evolution. it already has a mountain of evidence
The difference between a scientific theory and a scientific law is not that laws have a higher standard of proof. Scientific laws are narrower in scope and focus.
[QUOTE]Both scientific laws and scientific theories are produced from the scientific method through the formation and testing of hypotheses, and can predict the behavior of the natural world. Both are typically well-supported by observations and/or experimental evidence.[23] [B]However, scientific laws are descriptive accounts of how nature will behave under certain conditions.[24] Scientific theories are broader in scope, and give overarching explanations of how nature works and why it exhibits certain characteristics. Theories are supported by evidence from many different sources, and may contain one or several laws.[/B][25]
[B]A common misconception is that scientific theories are rudimentary ideas that will eventually graduate into scientific laws when enough data and evidence has been accumulated. A theory does not change into a scientific law with the accumulation of new or better evidence. A theory will always remain a theory; a law will always remain a law.[23][26]
Theories and laws are also distinct from hypotheses. Unlike hypotheses, theories and laws may be simply referred to as scientific [/B]fact.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=kNicKz]Why do you care though? I never understood that. If someone told me they don't believe in gravity I would respect their view and not really give a shit . Doesn't effect me. It's a large world and not everyone relies on science for their answers. There is nothing wrong with that[/QUOTE]
The problem is there is something very wrong with ignoring facts and evidence. just think about all of the medical advance alone that come from accepting the reality of evolution. How do you study the changes in viruses if you dont accept evolution?
[QUOTE=kNicKz]I enjoy saying I don't believe in evolution just to see how worked up people who believe in it get . A lot of them are legitimately offended if you don't believe in what they do :roll:[/QUOTE]
Its fine if you choose to be ignorant of science. The problem is the people who want to prevent the teaching of evolution in our schools, or to teach intelligent design in our science classes. This has long term effects on our nation's national security, economy and health care system.
\[QUOTE=Inactive]Genes changing is just one part of evolution. Natural selection, sexual selection, breeding, etc. all just alter the particular frequency of a gene, or combination of genes, within a population.
Gene mutations, which are random, provide variation. The mutations which aid in reproduction end up being better represented within the population(i.e are selected), over time. When we breed animals, we're selecting for certain genes. When females copulate with dominant males (sexual selection), they're unwittingly selecting for certain genes. When a slow wildebeest gets pounced on by a lion (natural selection), nature is selecting for certain genes. They're all part of evolution.[/QUOTE]
:applause:
[QUOTE=-p.tiddy-]so if "God" influenced the results that would also be "evolution" and not "intelligent design" correct?[/QUOTE]
There is no evidence that natural selection is influenced by a sentient being though.
[QUOTE=LJJ][B]You shouldn't though. Very few people who agree that evolution is a fact know much about (if anything) the mechanics behind evolution and the evidence for it.[/B] Most people have no clue that so many of our medical advances are a direct result of our understand of evolution for instance. They simply accept the theory because they acknowledge the expertise behind the theory, not because they understand what is going on.
If that part of a persons rationale is corrupted from the day they were born it's very hard to break out of it. And especially inherently smart people can go literally insane trying to break out of it, like that Michael Behe guy.[/QUOTE]
Even if they dont understand it themselves, atleast they are humble enough to accept that something behind their understanding can be true, and that scientists smarter than them in this field do understand it.
I don't fully understand how the big bang theory works. Just because I am not knowledgeable enough in this field, I don't assume the theory is wrong.
[QUOTE=Dictator]Why do you "evolution heads" always argue over beliefs? Your motive isn't actually understanding someone elses opinion but to try and assert your supposed superiority upon others.[/QUOTE]
Because there is evidence on our side, we dont believe anything.
Its like if I said Lebron is a better basketball player than Steve Blake
And you responded that it is your right to believe that steve blake is the better basketball player, and that if I deny your right to say Steve Blake is better at Basketball than Lebron, I am not respecting your opinion.
And further Inside the NBA should be forced to talk about the POV that Steve Blake is better at basketball than Lebron. That they should talk about all the opinions. No matter how much evidence there is that Lebron is better at basketball than Steve Blake, The opinion that steve blake is better at basketball than lebron should be given equal respect.
If someone has a better theory than evolution, I am all ears. I haven't heard one yet.
[QUOTE=greymatter]Wrong answer. The correct one is that "we don't come from monkeys; we share a common ancestry with them".[/QUOTE]
We derived form primates, people think of primates as monkeys, you know what he meant :confusedshrug:
[QUOTE=MavsSuperFan]
Even if they dont understand it themselves, atleast they are humble enough to accept that something behind their understanding can be true, and that scientists smarter than them in this field do understand it.
I don't fully understand how the big bang theory works. Just because I am not knowledgeable enough in this field, I don't assume the theory is wrong.[/QUOTE]
Sure, obviously. But that plays into what I'm saying though, if you grew up under different circumstances your whole concept of who to trust and who to revere would be different.
I know I'm smart enough to understand who has expertise and who hasn't. But I also recognize that my parents and other authority figures played a part in giving me the freedom of relatively free thought. Not everyone has this luxury, but it doesn't mean I have to have disdain for their intellectual ability. It's largely a matter of how you grew up and how much you were allowed to come to your own conclusions.
Whether one 'believes' in evolution or not is completely irrelevant (Unless they try to use the legal/education system to force their 'beliefs' on the masses). It is a question of tangible evidence/fact, not blind faith taken on the word of ancient goat herders.
[QUOTE=CelticBaller]We derived form primates, people think of primates as monkeys, you know what he meant :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
All I know is that he's an ignorant buffoon railing on something he has zero understanding of. We don't "derive from" primates. We "are" primates. Try educating yourself about the biological classification hierarchy. Primates are in the "family" classification, just above "genus", which is above "species".
[QUOTE=greymatter]All I know is that he's an ignorant buffoon railing on something he has zero understanding of. We don't "derive from" primates. We "are" primates. Try educating yourself about the biological classification hierarchy. Primates are in the "family" classification, just above "genus", which is above "species".[/QUOTE]
Ugh, again, we are in the same genus as gorillas , Hominidae or big apes if I am correct, god damn it, our closest ancestors are the bonobo monkeys. I just didn't feel like going specific because he was a moron. Now get off your high horse, ofc I know this shit. :oldlol:
[QUOTE=CelticBaller]Ugh, again, we are in the same genus as gorillas , [/quote]
Actually, we aren't. "Gorilla" is its own genus. Our genus is "homo".
[QUOTE=greymatter]Actually, we aren't. "Gorilla" is its own genus. Our genus is "homo".[/QUOTE]
True, Hominidae is a family. :facepalm
Well, since I'm a science and technology major, mistakes like this are expected, instead of arguing you learn.
[QUOTE=MavsSuperFan]Because there is evidence on our side, we dont believe anything.
Its like if I said Lebron is a better basketball player than Steve Blake
And you responded that it is your right to believe that steve blake is the better basketball player, and that if I deny your right to say Steve Blake is better at Basketball than Lebron, I am not respecting your opinion.
And further Inside the NBA should be forced to talk about the POV that Steve Blake is better at basketball than Lebron. That they should talk about all the opinions. No matter how much evidence there is that Lebron is better at basketball than Steve Blake, The opinion that steve blake is better at basketball than lebron should be given equal respect.[/QUOTE]
Do you guys even read? The point is not whether one is wrong or right. It's that you guys only argue over this because you feel you're superior to others.
[QUOTE=MavsSuperFan]
Its fine if you choose to be ignorant of science
[/QUOTE]
I think that science is important but I don't accept science as the explanation for everything that surrounds me. There are millions of things that science hasn't explained,and we truly know close to nothing about the planet we live on.
[QUOTE=MavsSuperFan]
The problem is the people who want to prevent the teaching of evolution in our schools, or to teach intelligent design in our science classes. This has long term effects on our nation's national security, economy and health care system.
[/QUOTE]
Evolution is taught in schools and there is 0 restriction on researching it independently in the United States.
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[QUOTE=kNicKz]I think that science is important but[B] I don't accept science as the explanation for everything that surrounds me.[/B] [/quote]What do you mean by this? What things surround you, which are incompatible with science?
[QUOTE=Dictator]Do you guys even read? The point is not whether one is wrong or right. It's that you guys only argue over this because you feel you're superior to others.[/QUOTE]That isn't what motivates me.
1. Many people don't have a firm position yet. They don't know who is right, and who is wrong. Their ultimate decision will depend on the arguments that they see/hear. They will go over to whichever side seems more convincing. If there is no public argument, then they will think that there are simply competing authorities, making equally valid claims, and believe whatever resonates with them emotionally.
2. Some people have genuine misunderstandings. They honestly think that their position is the right one. If things were just clarified for them, it would deepen their understanding, and enable them to rethink their position.
3. It's easy to privately hold a false belief, and never really question it. When you put your thoughts to paper, especially if open to criticism, you're more likely to notice the flaws in your own thinking.
4. The ideas which are considered acceptable in a society play a role in shaping the way the culture develops. If we let stupid ideas go unopposed, we will be a stupid society. If we let intolerant ideas go unopposed, we will be an intolerant society. If we believe that it all comes down to individual preferences, and that no ideas are truly better than others, we will be a weak, apathetic society.
Greatest Stable in WWE History. Enough said.
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[QUOTE=Lebron23]Greatest Stable in WWE History. Enough said.
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screenshots from a gay porno?
[QUOTE=outbreak]screenshots from a gay porno?[/QUOTE]
What planet are you from? The Past, The Present and the Future of Wrestling.
[QUOTE=Lebron23]The Past, The Present and the Future of Wrestling.[/QUOTE]
is that it's title?
[QUOTE=outbreak]screenshots from a gay porno?[/QUOTE]
sure looks it. Which manmeat does lebron 23 prefer?
People argue this beetle defies evolution.
[url]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lKM9yoQ3Wug[/url]
[QUOTE=n00bie]People argue this beetle defies evolution.
[url]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lKM9yoQ3Wug[/url][/QUOTE]
That is an old argument, if people are still talking about that then you know they aren't in the debate, they are just throwing things out and hoping their target audience just take it as fact.
Richard Dawkins from 1991..
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi4OdrITkqY[/url]
[QUOTE=Budadiiii]Except the ones who say evolution is a certainty are not as big as idiots as the ones who say creationism is a certainty, am I right?
Evolution is a certainty, get over it.[/QUOTE]
Right because idiots from the evolution side are that much smarter than the idiots from the church side riiiight .All i see is some idiots trying to make reason of why they exist by trying to put their made up ideas without proof as the real truth, just like the christians do. Until there is empirical truth that mass evolution happened i will take what they say with a grain if salt.
To be honest i do believe in evolution but i respect the creationists because evolution is not the real truth until proven otherwise.
I'll just remind everyone that science never believes in anything to be an absolute certainty. Science deals in relative certainties. On the spectrum of certainty, a scientific theory is the closest thing to absolute truth, and that is where evolution is for scientists.
I've never understood why any religion would consider the theory of evolution to be a threat. To me there's no reason for a belief in a higher power/spirit to contradict natural selection and evolution.
Earlier in the thread several posters said that if someone refutes evolution it doesn't matter to them. Here's why it should matter: Although only a small minority of evangelical Christians (Protestants, for all you Catholic bashers) demonize evolution and promote such nonsense as the earth only being 4000 years old, they have been able to have enough political power to actually change the way evolutionary science is taught in schools in places like Texas and Tennessee. This is a very dangerous development imo.
i actually have a dark secret that i hide from my friends and family, which is that i post regularly on this f--king board.
sometimes i wonder what they will think if they see i'm in a forum that makes threads like "damn, i just jerked off to anime. my dad is gonna whoops my ass" or some other senseless bullshit. the ass and boobs threads that come up once in awhile are fine and normal, but a lot of stuff is just weird. i come here because it's a guilty pleasure and i do find some shit entertaining, but i'm sure "less abnormal' people might find this shit totally retarded, and i probably can't refute that assertion.
but of all the possible threads that i think can be embarrassing, this has to be the tops. what kind of f--king idiots still ask if evolution is legit or not. are you still living in a cave? that debate is just so f--king retarded i can't believe i'm here to read it. it doesn't matter if you can't explain black holes or astrophysics, but if you can't even understand evolution, you're just the most retarded mothafugga on the planet.
and the second most retarded mothafugga... that would be me because i hang out with you hopeless retards on this forum.
:hammerhead:
[QUOTE=kNicKz]I think that science is important but I don't accept science as the explanation for everything that surrounds me. There are millions of things that science hasn't explained,and we truly know close to nothing about the planet we live on.
[/QUOTE]
true enough
However, the point of the scientific method is to only accept an idea if there is evidence and testing behind it and if that idea produces testable conclusions which turn out to be true.
If society doesnt require evidence to form beliefs, then what is the argument against believing that a being named the Supreme Kai rules the universe and works hard to prevent a magical demon named Majin Buu from being reincarnated?
[QUOTE]Evolution is taught in schools and there is 0 restriction on researching it independently in the United States.[/QUOTE]
There is a movement in the US, (mainly the bible belt and the south) to start teaching intelligent design in biology classes.
Many conservative congressman support the teaching of intelligent design (which is just creationism) and also vote and advocate for the defunding of public science education.
[QUOTE=Dictator]Do you guys even read? The point is not whether one is wrong or right. It's that you guys only argue over this because you feel you're superior to others.[/QUOTE]
If someone came up to you and said that they know just as much about basketball as you and that they base this on their belief that Steve Blake is a better basketball player than Lebron, would you not feel that in regards to your basketball knowledge you are superior to them?
You can feel superior to some people in some facets, but at the same time feel inferior in many other facets. If person A feels superior to Person B because person A accepts evolution as scientific fact, and person B believes that intelligent design is correct and has supporting evidence, then Person A is justified in believing they have superior knowledge of how homo sapiens came to exist. Now this doesnt mean that Person B is not in fact superior in all other ways.
A person believing that steve blake is better than Lebron is similar to believing in intelligent design, as they both have the same amount of supporting evidence, and both beliefs have a mountain of conflicting evidence.
[QUOTE=rufuspaul]
Earlier in the thread several posters said that if someone refutes evolution it doesn't matter to them. Here's why it should matter: Although only a small minority of evangelical Christians (Protestants, for all you Catholic bashers) demonize evolution and promote such nonsense as the earth only being 4000 years old, they have been able to have enough political power to actually change the way evolutionary science is taught in schools in places like Texas and Tennessee. This is a very dangerous development imo.[/QUOTE]
This is why people have a problem with evolution deniers
[QUOTE=MavsSuperFan]
There is a movement in the US, (mainly the bible belt and the south) to start teaching intelligent design in biology classes.
Many conservative congressman support the teaching of intelligent design (which is just creationism) and also vote and advocate for the defunding of public science education.
[/QUOTE]
Crazy shit, and it doesn't stop with evolution. The ass backward hillbilly legislature in my state voted last year to completely ignore any predictions of rising sea levels that were based on actual hard data and scientific research. In their own twisted way it's an attempt to spur economic development along the coast. "I don't care what some long haired hippy college sissy says about rising sea levels, I say we build a big goddamn casino right on the beach!"
Of course if they truly have God on their side they might actually be able to stop the sea level from rising.
[QUOTE=rufuspaul]I've never understood why any religion would consider the theory of evolution to be a threat. To me there's no reason for a belief in a higher power/spirit to contradict natural selection and evolution.
Earlier in the thread several posters said that if someone refutes evolution it doesn't matter to them. Here's why it should matter: Although only a small minority of evangelical Christians (Protestants, for all you Catholic bashers) demonize evolution and promote such nonsense as the earth only being 4000 years old, [B]they have been able to have enough political power to actually change the way evolutionary science is taught in schools in places like Texas and Tennessee.[/B] This is a very dangerous development imo.[/QUOTE]
I want to say this is way overblown though...I grew up in Dallas went to school here at every level and in science class we were shown the theory of evolution and NOT Adam and Eve.
and we were taught the scientific method...
I could be wrong but I really don't think there are any science books in Texas that are teaching creationism as fact, world only 4000 years old, etc...if so then that needs to be dealt with ASAP
[QUOTE=rufuspaul]I've never understood why any religion would consider the theory of evolution to be a threat. To me there's no reason for a belief in a higher power/spirit to contradict natural selection and evolution.
Earlier in the thread several posters said that if someone refutes evolution it doesn't matter to them. Here's why it should matter: Although only a small minority of evangelical Christians (Protestants, for all you Catholic bashers) demonize evolution and promote such nonsense as the earth only being 4000 years old, they have been able to have enough political power to actually change the way evolutionary science is taught in schools in places like Texas and Tennessee. This is a very dangerous development imo.[/QUOTE]
Totally agree. A person can believe that God created the Earth, but should accept the evolution/natural selection is just one of the many ways in which their God made the world.