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[QUOTE=lakerfreak]So what benefit was it to Kobe to say that? With Kobe, who learned from Phil and the mind games, What was Kobe really trying to say?[/QUOTE]
Steve is probably a friend, and is a teammate/draft class mate. They have been colleague for 19 years. There' lots of respect and of course tremendous competitiveness from those 06/07 series. There is NOTHING negative to say about Steve Nash, who is a consummate professional and all around classy man.
[QUOTE=DKLaker]What do you think he should say on a Nash documentary?
Do you actually think he should say a single negative thing.....and can you imagine the public backlash if he did say something bad?
Lighten up bro, you are way too serious about this......much ado about nothing.[/QUOTE]
Thats exactly what was said the last time. I don't mind. Im wrong and right 50% of the time each.
I just don't like it. I never get a good feeling on these.
[B]Link: [/B][URL="http://www.lakersnation.com/kobe-bryant-jealous-of-tim-duncan-for-playing-with-same-great-coach/2014/05/30/"]Here[/URL]
[QUOTE]“I’m jealous of Tim, playing for the same historically great coach for his entire career.”[/QUOTE]
Muh-ged.
I wanna hear Kobe's opinion about this..... this is the real waiting game. Lol
[B]Speak up, Kobe.[/B]
Nash out for year....was looking forward to see him trying to come back
Randle out for year....was looking forward to see him develop
B Scott finally our coach....but he really doesn't have a team to coach
Linsanity........so far nothing to be Linsane about
Kobe.....will pass MJ this season. Good to see him playing again. Clearly not the same player of course.....just chucked his way to 30 pts tonight on a horrible FG%
Man times sure have changed...gunna be a long season
[QUOTE=crisoner]Nash out for year....was looking forward to see him trying to come back
Randle out for year....was looking forward to see him develop
B Scott finally our coach....but he really doesn't have a team to coach
Linsanity........so far nothing to be Linsane about
Kobe.....will pass MJ this season. Good to see him playing again. Clearly not the same player of course.....just chucked his way to 30 pts tonight on a horrible FG%
Man times sure have changed...gunna be a long season[/QUOTE]
Annoyingly probably won't be bad enough to get the pick back from Phoenix either, although could be that bad at this rate who knows. With the team compiled wasn't expecting that much else...Kobe's got free reign you can look at the team and think who's the second option...probably the best you've got is either Jeremy Lin or a washed up Boozer, most annoying thing is Randle getting injured to be honest :mad: ...it's pretty much last year except just not spending a portion of the year hoping the coach will be fired :oldlol:
This team has less scoring options than the team did back with Smush at PG. Let Kobe chuck shots all he wants. This team wasn't even a playoff contender anyhow. I say just enjoy watching Kobe tear it up.
[QUOTE=dd24]This team has less scoring options than the team did back with Smush at PG. Let Kobe chuck shots all he wants. This team wasn't even a playoff contender anyhow. I say just enjoy watching Kobe tear it up.[/QUOTE]
I was hoping they could emulate the Sixers back in 2000-03 Iverson took the most shots and averaged around 39-41% and yet that team played great defense even winning the ECF in 01.:(
The major difference was Iverson would attack, get to the line or his frontcourt teammates would collect his missed FGs for easy put backs.
I think of the Bulls the past 2 year without Rose how they were bad offensively but scrapped their way to very respectable record.
Byron Scott spoke about the importance of playing defense and yet I don't see it. :facepalm
It is the players? Did Mitch consulted him? How on earth did they sign a player like Xavier Henry who turned out to have nagging injuries?:rant Can't they find guys like Bruce Bowen who journeyed his way from Cal State Fullerton? a Bo Outlaw or someone like Udonis Haslem?
Heck draft a guy like Patrick Beverly... oh wait they did that :facepalm
:confusedshrug:
btw welcome back guys.
Crisoner, DD, etc, Bladfd, Freak etc where are you guys?
[QUOTE=crisoner]Nash out for year....was looking forward to see him trying to come back
Randle out for year....was looking forward to see him develop
B Scott finally our coach....but he really doesn't have a team to coach
Linsanity........so far nothing to be Linsane about
Kobe.....will pass MJ this season. Good to see him playing again. Clearly not the same player of course.....just chucked his way to 30 pts tonight on a horrible FG%
Man times sure have changed...gunna be a long season[/QUOTE]
i guess kobe getting 20-30 a night and we end up with a lower enough record to get the 1-4 pick is about it. i was looking forward to randle as well.
Hell of a hand to be dealt.
[QUOTE=tamaraw08]I was hoping they could emulate the Sixers back in 2000-03 Iverson took the most shots and averaged around 39-41% and yet that team played great defense even winning the ECF in 01.:(
The major difference was Iverson would attack, get to the line or his frontcourt teammates would collect his missed FGs for easy put backs.
I think of the Bulls the past 2 year without Rose how they were bad offensively but scrapped their way to very respectable record.
Byron Scott spoke about the importance of playing defense and yet I don't see it. :facepalm
It is the players? Did Mitch consulted him? How on earth did they sign a player like Xavier Henry who turned out to have nagging injuries?:rant Can't they find guys like Bruce Bowen who journeyed his way from Cal State Fullerton? a Bo Outlaw or someone like Udonis Haslem?
Heck draft a guy like Patrick Beverly... oh wait they did that :facepalm
:confusedshrug:
btw welcome back guys.
Crisoner, DD, etc, Bladfd, Freak etc where are you guys?[/QUOTE]
Welcome back to you too. I checked the forums sometimes but there just wasn't anything to talk about for a while there. I'm glad the season has started back up. I don't see this team being like that Sixers team because like you said they were a very good defensive team. This Lakers team won't be good defensively. I think it's going to be a rough season for the Lakers. This is probably the worst roster Kobe has ever been on and now he's at the end of his career. It will be a struggle to get to 30 wins. That's why I think just developing some of the younger guys and trying to see if there's a diamond in the rough would be good for this season. Maybe there's one of them the Lakers will want to keep long term.
[QUOTE=dd24]Welcome back to you too. I checked the forums sometimes but there just wasn't anything to talk about for a while there. I'm glad the season has started back up. I don't see this team being like that Sixers team because like you said they were a very good defensive team. This Lakers team won't be good defensively. I think it's going to be a rough season for the Lakers. This is probably the worst roster Kobe has ever been on and now he's at the end of his career. It will be a struggle to get to 30 wins. That's why I think just developing some of the younger guys and trying to see if there's a diamond in the rough would be good for this season. Maybe there's one of them the Lakers will want to keep long term.[/QUOTE]
But coaches find ways to motivate, dissect each players abilities. I think of Thibs coaching Korver, Snell and Bellinelli etc, these guys were not great defenders and yet improved under him. The problem is guys like KObe thinks playing better defense is about reaching in and trying to steal the ball but more often than not, he gets called for a foul. Many times he tries to intercept a pass but fails, so his man gets a free lane to attack....
I wish they can hire Cooper to tutor these guys now to stay infront of thier man.
About the current guys, I like Ed Davis, Hill and Price.
Yeah, I'd like to see those 3 get some minutes to see what they can do. Davis could be someone who develops into a solid role player.
the team execs question
the players prayer
the fans ticket
I'm dubiased
Still around!!! Just read more then post now.
Glad to see all you guys on here still. We had a great decade....
I'm looking forward to next year already. Hope we can grab Rondo and LA!!!
LA in LA next year!!!
....of course we will why wouldn't he not? Kobe's the only hot ticket drama selling item this side of Hollywood, the team's roster was purposely designed this way with scrubs:eek: just so Kobe can surpass MJ's scoring record with ease and wouldn't be surprised if he make a run at Karl Malone's 2nd overall scoring record next year at this rate. We can all thank the FO for over paying 48 mil (2 years) to keep Kobe's mouth in check for lack of wins it's gonna be a insane drama repeat.:rolleyes:
Raiders / Lakers fan :(
More problems than a blind man in a mine field.
[quote=DixieNourmous]Raiders / Lakers fan :(
More problems than a blind man in a mine field.[/quote]
:facepalm
this season yes, but jahlil okafor and 2 max free agents by 2016 :rockon:
[QUOTE=magic chiongson]this season yes, but jahlil okafor and 2 max free agents by 2016 :rockon:[/QUOTE]
Or Emmanual Mudiay or Karl-Anthony Towns.
[quote=dd24]Or Emmanual Mudiay or Karl-Anthony Towns.[/quote]
works for me!
Chuckee Bryant a.k.a The Pale-faced Mamba doin' work trying to chuck the Lakers to a playoff-berth :lol :lol
What's the point of sitting Kobe so much? It really makes this team unwatchable. The only reason I can see for it is the Lakers are truly trying to tank. I don't believe that Kobe is too sore to play. It wasn't that long ago he had fingers taped together so he could make it through a season lol. Kobe is taking it well. I think even if he is in the game they aren't going to win too many more. This roster is horrible.... one of the worst in the NBA.
[QUOTE=dd24]What's the point of sitting Kobe so much? It really makes this team unwatchable. The only reason I can see for it is the Lakers are truly trying to tank. I don't believe that Kobe is too sore to play. It wasn't that long ago he had fingers taped together so he could make it through a season lol. Kobe is taking it well. I think even if he is in the game they aren't going to win too many more. This roster is horrible.... one of the worst in the NBA.[/QUOTE]
I understand your point esp if it's not back to back but I am more confused on why Byron is not using Clarkson at all. This guy is very athletic and playing him atleast 20 mins/game would help a ton esp for next year. Let him make the mistakes now and learn from it. Im not sure if this is roster is that horrible tho. Black, Davis, Hill, these guys are decent IMO.
[QUOTE=dd24]What's the point of sitting Kobe so much? It really makes this team unwatchable. The only reason I can see for it is the Lakers are truly trying to tank. I don't believe that Kobe is too sore to play. It wasn't that long ago he had fingers taped together so he could make it through a season lol. Kobe is taking it well. I think even if he is in the game they aren't going to win too many more. This roster is horrible.... one of the worst in the NBA.[/QUOTE]
Broken fingers don't compare to the injuries he had. A torn Achilles is among the worst injuries to have as a NBA player. Add to the mix a 36 year old who has broken leg and a substantial amount of time off and you get a broken down player. Personally, I think the rigors of the NBA has caught up to him. When you recover from injuries you compensate on the rest of the body so that causes problems. I don't think he can handle a full NBA season anymore
If he could go, I really don't think he would be sitting. Nothing he has done in the past tells me he would sit if he could go.
That's why I'm confused. I feel like he could play but he's just being benched. I get that he's older now and there are other players who take of some games (like Duncan for example) but it just seems to me that they're sitting Kobe too much. I feel like they're really trying to tank this season. Which I don't have a problem with. The Lakers really really really need that top 5 pick. I just wish they would go about things differently.
We saw him when he was playing every game this year and it wasnt pretty. At times he was hurting the team. After that 8-30 game where he lost the game in Sac town, I think he realized he just simply cannot go like he used to. It was tough to watch, probably pretty embarrassing for him.
I really think they are preserving him for his final year, but I am sure they dont mind if that turns into a top 5 pick. So perhaps they are indirectly tanking. I personally am not a fan of tanking at all, but I understand this happens to be a unique situation as they only get their pick at top 5.
Torn rotator cuff for Bean. Man, his body really cant take the beating. I guess this makes the tank that much easier. I am not clear on recovery for this type of injury. I am guessing it will require surgery and extensive rehab. I however do not believe he will retire because of this. He has too much pride, I think he wants to end on the court, not in the operating room.
Now, I know I have said I dont like tanking, but now its time to move pieces who can get us picks in return. Im looking at guys like Jordan Hill, Ed Davis, Wes Johnson, etc. Guys who have shown they can play but may not be part of the future.
I just heard that news too. I believe if you have a torn rotator cuff it requires surgery. I had a basketball injury last summer to my shoulder and the first thing I though was that's what it was. I went to the doctor and it wasn't that luckily. There were some other things that were partially torn and the doctor said it would heal on it's own. Now 6 months later I can still feel it but I'm able to use it again. The thing is it didn't really affect my jump shot. I was able to play quickly. I couldn't throw a football at all though. So I would think he could probably play basketball fairly soon but he'll be feeling it for a while. With the Lakers tanking I think if we see Kobe again it will be at the end of the season and it won't be very much.
Listening today on the radio sounds like it depends on the degree of the tear
slight tear he can start rehabbing once the pain is gone 3 to 8 weeks. surgery long down time but could be back at the end of the season
could be a blessing in disguise, his legs were dead and his stamina was crappy from missing so much time but it's hard to build the strength up trying to play an NBA schedule.. he can still work on his stamina and leg strength while he's recovering from the shoulder
He's had this injury before and came back fine as far as his shoulder was concerned... it's not a horrible injury just takes time if he wants to give it a go again
He could also say efff it, i'm done
I heard that too gts. Could be a relatively short time off if only partial tear. If it's full tear could be much longer. I think it's 6-8 weeks no movement followed by 4-6 months of rehab.
But has he had a torn rotator cuff? I am hearing a lot about a torn labrum but not the cuff. And I hear it's completely diff, you can't really play through a torn cuff like you can with a labrum.
I think at this point, it makes sense to shut it down for him. I do think he will return for his final season. But at least a plan for his minutes can be made. He got killed with the big minutes earlier in the season but I think he was really just gunning for MJ.
I just wonder with him about not playing for long periods of time. He was pretty rusty coming into the season and never really found consistency. Might be just age and injuries that will prevent him from ever being consistent again.
I was getting labrum confused with rotator cuff..... two different thing for sure.
Get well soon, Bean.
all aboard!
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Haha, the Lakers can't let the Knicks get Okafur that easily!!!:lol :oldlol:
can the lakers be anymore obvious in the absolute tanking? Clarkson, Ellington, kelly, hill and sacre?? I know I know the lakers have no one but jeez sacre starting 2 consecutive games is pretty comical lol. Lakers have a good chance at getting into bottom 3, which would guarantee a pick
It's Phil's great mind against the Lakers. This is really starting to get hilarious.
9 month recovery timetable. Longer than I thought but around the range for a full tear. This is going to be a tough one to come back from. No telling if or when he gets that full strength and range of motion on that shoulder.
seems like its over for kobe, too many injuries took over him his career and it ultimately ended his career
Kobe, remember when you asked David Beckham about knowing when to end your career & he said "You'll know"?
Remember that:))