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[QUOTE=HollaBolla][B]As a Laker fan it sickens me to see kobe resort to hurting other players to get even, from Miller, Ginobili, AK47, and now Jaric, he is supposed to be a model player emulate by kids but for him to do this, it just not right, he needs to apologize and change his ways.[/B][/QUOTE]
He's just flopping to get phantom calls, and it usually works with todays refs.
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even bill thinks 24 is dirty
kobe would be considered clean in the 80s or 90s.
he's not a dirty player at all. stockton was a dirty player.
I think he's trying to draw a foul, and if that fails, clear space for him to go for the rebound. Anyone else notice that when he did the same thing to Manu he was first to go back up for the blocked shot?
[QUOTE=XxNeXuSxX]He's just flopping to get phantom calls, and it usually works with todays refs.[/QUOTE]
well, he neeeds to stop this crap, its hurting other players, one of these days he could end somebody's career by his inexcusable actions.
Do you guys have to reply to every repeated topic? Damn
[QUOTE=hotsizzle]I just want to know this...Do people on here think hes doing it on PURPOSE with an intent to hurt OR do they think hes trying to draw foul and should quit?[/QUOTE]
I think he's doing it with the intention of drawing a foul and/or holding back another player from getting the rebound... and that he should stop doing it. Someone can get hurt. I don't think that the offensive foul is suspension worthy...
[QUOTE=HollaBolla][B]As a Laker fan it sickens me to see kobe resort to hurting other players to get even, from Miller, Ginobili, AK47, and now Jaric, he is supposed to be a model player emulate by kids but for him to do this, it just not right, he needs to apologize and change his ways.[/B][/QUOTE]
I agree about apoogizing and changes his ways, but I dont know about dirtiest player ever. That award would probably go to someone in the late
80's - early 90's
[QUOTE=GOBB]Do you guys have to reply to every repeated topic? Damn[/QUOTE]
Do you have to run to every Kobe thread to defend him? Damn
[QUOTE=GOBB]Do you guys have to reply to every repeated topic? Damn[/QUOTE]
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I think the more pertinent question is how many people [B]want[/B] Bryant to have done it on purpose or want to believe that he did it on purpose? I heard a poster state this very thing in the Manu thread, saying that he wanted to believe that he hit Manu on purpose, but wasn't sure.
[QUOTE=_KP_The_Familia_]Do you have to run to every Kobe thread to defend him? Damn[/QUOTE]
Name them idiot. How's Gilbert = MVP workin out for you? Oh its not. Dissappear again. Do us a favor. Before you vamoose son of a b!tch let go of my nuts.
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he probably is not doing it with malicious intent and is just trying to draw a foul. the problem with that is he is purposely flailing his arms to draw the foul and is ending up slamming hard elbows into players faces.
[QUOTE=GOBB]Name them idiot. How's Gilbert = MVP workin out for you? Oh its not. Dissappear again. Do us a favor. Before you vamoose son of a b!tch let go of my nuts.[/QUOTE]
He called you a ******* Gobb? So you see how it's gotten out of control.
[QUOTE=hotsizzle]I just want to know this...Do people on here think hes doing it on PURPOSE with an intent to hurt OR do they think hes trying to draw foul and should quit?[/QUOTE]
He just needs to quit, because if this keeps happening it's rather stupid to continue IMO.
Kobe is dirty :D
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The NBA needs to get off Kobe's Nuts. Lebron James almost takes off Wades neck and they dont do nothing about it. Apparently the NBA had nothing to do today so they reviewed the same damn tape of last nights game all day today and suspended him. Damn the NBA needs to shut there mouth and let the players play the damn game, gosh.
Kobe is a sloppy flopper and kisser it seems........
According to the league, it was clear after reviewing the tape that Kobe hit Ginobili on purpose. That 'intent' was what made it different from other dirty plays people have mentioned (the league is much slower to assign intent than I am, btw) and what drew the suspension.
This time Kobe was lucky to get away with only one game IMO. Same move, same situation, same result--there's no room for doubt as to his motives this time.
It was intentional, Jaric blocked, got a piece of his shot, made a little contact, or put Kobe's hot off enough to piss him off. It ws intentional.
Unsportsmanlike. This suspension to help him err this behaviour.
Marco Jaric:
[QUOTE]"I haven't seen the replay, but if you ask me what I thought about the play when it happened, I don't think he did it intentionally, and I don't think players should be suspended for things that happen unintentionally," Jaric told ESPN.com. "I think he was trying to draw a foul, and he swung his hand out to make it look dramatic, and he hit me by accident. He apologized right after."[/QUOTE]
[url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2790534[/url]
Same exact situation...gets shot blocked, gets frustrated, then decides to hit the player with his elbow on purpose. When he flails his arms to draw a foul, it is never in that motion...unless he has the intent of hitting the player.
Kobe throws elbows out almost every game. His history is extensive...and you're telling me that he wouldn't throw one on purpose when his shot gets blocked at a critical point in the game? :roll:
Kobe is guilty, as usual.
[QUOTE=hotsizzle]Marco Jaric:
[url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2790534[/url][/QUOTE]
The NBA doesnt care. Because Manu said the same thing and the whole Spurs organization did to. And Kobe still got suspeneded.
As much as it hurt, I defended Kobe the first time, and thought the suspension was unjust.
I was clearly wrong, and Kobe is doing this intentionally. He's a dirty player. Period. As much flack Bruce Bowen takes for being a dirty player, he's never done anything like this.
Kobe should have gotten at least a 3 game suspension. This is just more fuel to the fire for all us Kobe h-a-t-e-r-s.
I am so glad the league is at least being consistent with the suspensions. I honestly thought they were gonna let Kobe slide this time, since the media gave the NBA so much crap about suspending Kobe the first time.
Maybe after this 2nd suspension, Kobe will finally learn to stop extending his elbows after his jumper.. the defender is right there!! Kobe HAS to know that, since both Manu/Jaric got a piece of his shot before catching an elbow to the face.. We'd all love to flail our arms and go to the free-throw line after we just got our shot legitimately blocked, but the game don't work like that, Kobe :D
Having watched it extensively, I conclude that kobe bryant is guilty of nothing more than trying to draw a foul and doing a poor job of it. Cheers.:cheers:
Maybe the league should've made it a 2 game suspension. Kobe obviously didn't learn his lesson the first time. Kobe fanboys would flip out though..
[QUOTE=HollaBolla][B]As a Laker fan it sickens me to see kobe resort to hurting other players to get even, from Miller, Ginobili, AK47, and now Jaric, he is supposed to be a model player emulate by kids but for him to do this, it just not right, he needs to apologize and change his ways.[/B][/QUOTE]
Finally, a reasonable Laker fan in this thread. :applause:
[QUOTE=junkifunki]I am so glad the league is at least being consistent with the suspensions. I honestly thought they were gonna let Kobe slide this time, since the media gave the NBA so much crap about suspending Kobe the first time.
Maybe after this 2nd suspension, Kobe will finally learn to stop extending his elbows after his jumper.. the defender is right there!! Kobe HAS to know that, since both Manu/Jaric got a piece of his shot before catching an elbow to the face.. We'd all love to flail our arms and go to the free-throw line after we just got our shot legitimately blocked, but the game don't work like that, Kobe :D[/QUOTE]
How can you say that? When Lebron almost took off D-Wades neck they dont review it or do anything. But Kobe accidentally comes down on somebody because he is trying to draw a foul. They need to suspend both to look consistent. Cause right now they look like immature babies who dont know what the hell there doing.
[QUOTE=gb8]Having watched it extensively, I conclude that kobe bryant is guilty of nothing more than trying to draw a foul and doing a poor job of it. Cheers.:cheers:[/QUOTE]
exactly... what happened to Brian Cook when he did the same thing????nothing
[QUOTE=junkifunki]Maybe the league should've made it a 2 game suspension. Kobe obviously didn't learn his lesson the first time. Kobe fanboys would flip out though..[/QUOTE]
its called drawing a foul he did the same thing in the 3rd quarter trying to draw a foul. There is no way he meant to hit him in the face, no one is that good, he isnt even looking at him
[QUOTE=AKA AAP]Finally, a reasonable Laker fan in this thread. :applause:[/QUOTE]
One thing bad happens to Kobe or the Lakers you come out of your damn cave. If the Lakers win or something you hide in your cave. Why dont you go hide in yoru cave? And save the nonsense to yourself.
[QUOTE=Cool]How can you say that? When Lebron almost took off D-Wades neck they dont review it or do anything. But Kobe accidentally comes down on somebody because he is trying to draw a foul. They need to suspend both to look consistent. Cause right now they look like immature babies who dont know what the hell there doing.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Cool]One thing bad happens to Kobe or the Lakers you come out of your damn cave. If the Lakers win or something you hide in your cave. Why dont you go hide in yoru cave? And save the nonsense to yourself.[/QUOTE]
Where was I during the Lakers losing streak(s)? Lakers had a 6 game skid, why was I MIA'd for that whole time? :confusedshrug:
You convince yourself of false perceptions too well. Think rationally, kid.
[QUOTE=Cool]One thing bad happens to Kobe or the Lakers you come out of your damn cave. If the Lakers win or something you hide in your cave. Why dont you go hide in yoru cave? And save the nonsense to yourself.[/QUOTE]
Its because hes nothing but a personality. Its a gimmick, a set up.
When did the media gave NBA a hard time over Kobe's 1st suspension? Kobe's one superstar when suspended won't receive a backlash from the media or most of NBA fans, let's face it..Kobe's not widely liked.
Jaric on the suspension:
Jaric said he was surprised that Bryant was suspended.
"I haven't seen the replay, but if you ask me what I thought about the play when it happened, I don't think he did it intentionally, and I don't think players should be suspended for things that happen unintentionally," Jaric told ESPN.com. "I think he was trying to draw a foul, and he swung his hand out to make it look dramatic, and he hit me by accident. He apologized right after."
[QUOTE=hotsizzle]Its because hes nothing but a personality. Its a gimmick, a set up.[/QUOTE]
Okay thanks for the heads up. Because he is very unrealistic and does not think straight.
:oldlol: The league has it in for Kobe, ever since colorado, they've had it out for this n!gga. He shouldn't of gotten suspended for that especially when Bowen, Deke and etc has done way worse and didn't even get so much as a fine for it. My thing is, the refs should of called a flagrant on Kobe if they thought it was intentional, i dont think they thought he done it purposely.
Raja Bell clotheslined Kobe, with the intent to harm him yet he only got a game. You can bet your ass had bell done that to Lebron, Wade and others he would of got a minimum of 5 games, but since it's Kobe the NBA's villian, i guess the nba felt that the clotheslined was justified. smh