Re: It should be no conferences, top 16 teams in playoffs
[QUOTE=FLDFSU]Not trying to be a jackas% but Minnesota doesn't deserve sh*t if they cannot finish in the top half of their conference. You want more money and recognition Minnesota? Stop giving up 104 points a game and figure out a way to not have a losing record on the road.
And if your not first, your last.
IMO, if Miami can't beat the Clippers in the finals, they might as well lose to the Hawks in the first round.[/QUOTE]
If they can finish in the top half of the league they should be there.
A core value of sports: if you win more than somebody else, then you shold be recognized as being better.
But OK Ricky Bobby, by your theory there's no point watching any NBA except the last 4-7 games..
I bet somebody was high when they said that.
Re: It should be no conferences, top 16 teams in playoffs
Atlanta and Charlotte are gonna be in the playoffs...
Dallas, Phoenix or Memphis will not.
The system is fine... :roll:
Re: It should be no conferences, top 16 teams in playoffs
[QUOTE=FLDFSU]Not trying to be a jackas% but Minnesota doesn't deserve sh*t if they cannot finish in the top half of their conference.[/QUOTE]
So because of geography, Minnesota doesn't deserve to be in the playoffs.
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Re: It should be no conferences, top 16 teams in playoffs
Re: It should be no conferences, top 16 teams in playoffs
It's not practical to have 1 whole league. Scheduling would be insane and top off that, the favourites would still be the favourites to come to the final 4 teams and Finals, which would be Indiana, Miami, OKC, and San Antonio.
It cannot and will not happen.
[QUOTE=Droid101]No. If you did it by record, there is no guarantee that Miami or Indiana makes the finals. That's the point.
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=330107[/url]
We already have this thread. Junk this one.
In the round before the Finals, it would be OKC vs. Indiana, and Spurs vs. Miami or Clippers.[/QUOTE]
Did you even bother reading what my point was ? It doesn't matter what type of style your using even when it's completely non-practical, Indiana and Miami are going to come out on top as the East representatives. And what about the guarantee ? Dallas, Phoenix, and whichever lower seed of the West (along with the East) aren't seeing the Finals if pretty much guaranteed.
Look at the round before the Finals that you posted. You've basically agreed with me. :oldlol:
[QUOTE=wagexslave]This would be changing something that IS broken, so what's the point of your post?[/QUOTE]
One conference just has more depth. That doesn't mean it's broken.
Re: It should be no conferences, top 16 teams in playoffs
[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]One conference just has more depth. That doesn't mean it's broken.[/QUOTE]
One conference is a complete joke with joke teams making the playoffs. It's broken, accept it.
Re: It should be no conferences, top 16 teams in playoffs
[QUOTE=wagexslave]One conference is a complete joke with joke teams making the playoffs. It's broken, accept it.[/QUOTE]
There's nothing broken. The GM's in the West just acquired better talent over the years. If this is broken, the other leagues are also broken.
To have a seeding like this is just absurd and it would never effect the outcomes of the Top East teams anyways. So what if Minnesota, Memphis, Dallas, and Phoenix all make it ? They aren't winning a title or going far enough. You're still getting Miami and Indiana in the ECF, more than 95% of the posters here have already called it and no low seed team from the West is changing that.
Re: It should be no conferences, top 16 teams in playoffs
[QUOTE=OmniStrife]Atlanta and Charlotte are gonna be in the playoffs...
Dallas, Phoenix or Memphis will not.
The system is fine... :roll:[/QUOTE]
This.
Re: It should be no conferences, top 16 teams in playoffs
[QUOTE=FLDFSU]Not trying to be a jackas% but Minnesota doesn't deserve sh*t if they cannot finish in the top half of their conference. You want more money and recognition Minnesota? Stop giving up 104 points a game and figure out a way to not have a losing record on the road.
And if your not first, your last.
IMO, if Miami can't beat the Clippers in the finals, they might as well lose to the Hawks in the first round.[/QUOTE]
you're an idiot and i guess that is why you are against this idea.
I would not call you an idiot if your reasons were travel distances but the reasons you have been giving are totally wrong.
Just think if grizzlies were in east. i am using memphis here because they are the only lower seed playoff team in the west which would make it tough for heat. even if heat manage to win in 5, they would get tired. Just imagine playing bulls, memphis and pacers in first 3 rounds.
Same for an clippers or okc if they play 3 very physical teams instead of 1 physical team like memphis and 2 fastpaced teams.
In my opinion regular season should be 58 games with every team playing every other team twice. Stop caring about past records because of less games resulting in lesser points and start caring about a better product.
Re: It should be no conferences, top 16 teams in playoffs
[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]There's nothing broken. The GM's in the West just acquired better talent over the years. If this is broken, the other leagues are also broken.
To have a seeding like this is just absurd and it would never effect the outcomes of the Top East teams anyways. So what if Minnesota, Memphis, Dallas, and Phoenix all make it ? They aren't winning a title or going far enough. You're still getting Miami and Indiana in the ECF, more than 95% of the posters here have already called it and no low seed team from the West is changing that.[/QUOTE]
How do you know that, though? Sure SA/DAL (or SA/PHX) and OKC/MEM, will probably be short series, but are they NOT physically taxing?
Having a tougher road to the finals (where physicality, defense and intensity picks up) matters, IMO.
Re: It should be no conferences, top 16 teams in playoffs
[QUOTE=kuniva_dAMiGhTy]How do you know that, though? Sure SA/DAL (or SA/PHX) and OKC/MEM, will probably be short series, but are they NOT physically taxing?
Having a tougher road to the finals (where physicality, defense and intensity picks up) matters, IMO.[/QUOTE]
I agree the road is tougher, but I don't see Miami or Indiana not come out on top against those same teams. Both teams have been battle tested in the past and would takeout any low seed in the West.
Yes, it sucks that the competition in the East got killed by injuries. If the Hawks , Bulls, Nets, and Knicks were healthy all year and didn't lose their top players for the season, they could have at least made the first couple of rounds interesting. But I don't see the system being broken because of it.
Would I like to see the absolute best compete ? Yes, I'm down for it. But it just wouldn't happen in a practical and convenience for the league. Also, as I said before, Indiana and Miami would still go deep and be very likely to reach the Finals.