1-Jordan
2-Kobe
3-West
4-Wade
5-Iverson
6-Ray Allen
7-Drexler
8-Manu
9-Gervin
10-Reggie
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1-Jordan
2-Kobe
3-West
4-Wade
5-Iverson
6-Ray Allen
7-Drexler
8-Manu
9-Gervin
10-Reggie
[QUOTE=pauk]Just an opinion again and i am biased ofcourse i admit, but i do think he was a better shooter (and greatest shooter of all time), Reggie could get his shot of with utmost comfort from any angle / being of balance and so on, Ray needs to go straight up to be as accurate, he is not as good of an of balance shooter as Reggie or especially Larry Bird was, they could get it of left handed, right handed, hook, runner, float it in etc.... Reggie was also much more of a.... how do you say it... oh right, ALPHA... a cocky, douchebag, killer, assassin, competitor.... who would make the likes of even Jordan choke at times as he got under their skin...
...and oh, i will sound like a Kobe stan now but i have to, Reggie unlike Ray refused to ringchase, "collude" etc. he was extremly loyal, he turned down so many of those oppurtunities because of his loyalty for Pacers.... when he retired every single person on the planet showed more respect to him that day than probably any other player i ever seen imo.... the entire crowd and even the opposing team took a timeout just to go to the middle of court and clap for a long while, even the reffs and so on didnt mind at all...
[B]Reggie was better and everybody (if old enough) knows it... its hard to explain if you havent watched reasonably amount of both... [/B]
Ramble this, ramble that.... TL;DR .... REGGIE > RAY ALLEN...... a player who did admit his idol was Reggie and that he stole all his moves, for Ray Allen to exist there had to be Reggie, so Reggie has to come first in my list...[/QUOTE]
Pauk I'm not gonna sit here and be like its blasphemous to put reggie above ray even though I wouldn't do it but most of what you said about ray is false...firstly he didn't collude with boston, he actually was extremely disappointed and did not want to be traded there when it first happened...ray was more intent on mentoring durant and helping the sonics make a playoff push next season miami is a different story but boston was not anything close to colluding...k.g didnt go to boston until he knew ray was there because before ray was traded he wanted no part of the celtics...as for ray shooting just straight up thats honestly complete bullshit dude ray can hit any shot from anywhere on any angle and was always able to do that especially in his prime idk how you could forget that also your bolded is just asinine you have an opinion but its not the end all be all man a lot of ppl think ray was better thats their opinion...and for ray just being a spot up shooter even you know in his prime that was false...dude was a scoring machine and could fill it up with the best of them with anyway possible...off the dribble, catch and shoot, screens, put a smaller guy on him he'll post him up...ray could score anyway possible back in the day
and finally the killer instinct alpha mentality...reggie was probably best known for it but ray was an assassin in his own right in his hey day and even now...dude hit so many big shots and had so many big games especially in his prime that its not even funny...especially many games in the 01 and 05 playoffs where his team would need it most he would deliever
all in all if you want to believe reggie is better thats on you and its your opinion I just don't and never will
I would have put Wade over West if Wade's 2006 Finals MVP was completely untainted.
It isn't though.
[QUOTE=Boston C's]I mean its your opinion and its a solid one but for me I'd def put allen above moncrief and dumars probably reggie too but like I said its your opinion[/QUOTE]
[B]Why? Make your case then.. "Only" thing those dudes really have as their MAIN advantage is longevity. People really making these lists based on "names" more than anything else, and more recent ofc at that, funny to me. Not saying some sort of case can't be made but I won't put Ray-Ray or Reggie above someone like Moncrief or Dumars (who, both, deserve top10).
Sam Jones was a pretty good player in his own right, very clutch and has 9 rings.. People here will have Ray Allen as high as 6th all time (:oldlol:) and not even mention Jones.
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1. MJ
2. West
3. Bryant :kobe:
4. Jones
5. Greer
6. Sharman
7. Moncrief
8. Drexler
9. Monroe
10. Gervin
:cheers:
1. Michael Jordan
2. Jerry West
3. Kobe Bryant
4. Dwyane Wade
5. Clyde Drexler
6. Allen Iverson
7. Reggie Miller
8. George Gervin
9. Ray Allen
10. James Harden
[QUOTE=Ball So Harden]1. Michael Jordan
2. Jerry West
3. Kobe Bryant
4. Dwyane Wade
5. Clyde Drexler
6. Allen Iverson
7. Reggie Miller
8. George Gervin
9. Ray Allen
100. James Harden[/QUOTE]
Fixed.
[QUOTE=SHAQisGOAT][B]Why? Make your case then.. "Only" thing those dudes really have as their MAIN advantage is longevity. People really making these lists based on "names" more than anything else, funny to me. Not saying some sort of case can't be made but I won't put Ray-Ray or Reggie above someone like Moncrief or Dumars (who, both, deserve top10).
Sam Jones was a pretty good player in his own right, very clutch and has 9 rings.. People here will have Ray Allen as high as 6th all time (:oldlol:) and not even mention Jones.
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I have ray at 8th and sam jones over him but in regards to moncrief ray and reggie are better because they lasted much longer...hell their careers are practically TWICE as long as his...their career averages are also better then moncriefs and their peaks are arguably better as well...don't get me wrong moncrief is awesome but his numbers aren't so significantly better (or at all compared to ray) and to top it off ray had 9 straight seasons of 20 plus ppg moncrief's prime did not last nearly as long dude had 5 good seasons and just fell off the face of the earth comparing ray to moncrief to me prime, peak, numbers, all around are just better
dumars is a different case I just look at rays peak and think its better and that his longevity is more impressive then dumars...their accolades are neck in neck ray with more all star games dumars with a slight edge in all nba teams (at least before his defensive accolades come to play) but rays prime and peak were just flat out better then dumars hell reggies was just as good if not better as well...throw in their longevity and to me I choose them...but again you have your opinion and its a respectable one but I just don't agree with it
[QUOTE=aj1987]Fixed.[/QUOTE]
So you'd rather fix the Harden part than the part where he put West at 2 and Wade at 4.
Ok :lol
[QUOTE=Smook A.]So you'd rather fix the Harden part than the part where he put West at 2 and Wade at 4.
Ok :lol[/QUOTE]
:lol
[QUOTE=Smook A.]So you'd rather fix the Harden part than the part where he put West at 2 and Wade at 4.
Ok :lol[/QUOTE]
Read my earlier posts. I've already said that West is higher than Wade right now.
jerry west is an all-time great but d.wade is CLEARLY the 3rd best SG of all time if we're not weighing accolades heavily
[QUOTE=Boston C's]I have ray at 8th and sam jones over him but in regards to moncrief ray and reggie are better because they lasted much longer...hell their careers are practically TWICE as long as his...their career averages are also better then moncriefs and their peaks are arguably better as well...don't get me wrong moncrief is awesome but his numbers aren't so significantly better (or at all compared to ray) and to top it off ray had 9 straight seasons of 20 plus ppg moncrief's prime did not last nearly as long dude had 5 good seasons and just fell off the face of the earth comparing ray to moncrief to me prime, peak, numbers, all around are just better
dumars is a different case I just look at rays peak and think its better and that his longevity is more impressive then dumars...their accolades are neck in neck ray with more all star games dumars with a slight edge in all nba teams (at least before his defensive accolades come to play) but rays prime and peak were just flat out better then dumars hell reggies was just as good if not better as well...throw in their longevity and to me I choose them...but again you have your opinion and its a respectable one but I just don't agree with it[/QUOTE]
[B]Better peak(s) than Moncrief? No, just stop it, you're probably only looking at PPG or something lol.
-Sid was top10 in MVP voting 5 times, finishing 4th once, again, he made 5 all-nba teams, and was 1st once, with Magic, Gervin, Jordan or Isiah in the league, he's 5x all-defensive including 4 1st and has 2 DPOY's as a guard (most), made like 3 all-star games as a starter too;
-Moncrief was a good overall shooter but ofc as far as shooting Ray and Reggie are clearly above, I'd also put them above as far as scoring but the gap there is not big AT ALL, Sid was better at ISO with a really quick 1st step and he was easily a better finisher than either of them, better in the post too and was more athletic. Talking about defense, Sidney is just head-and-shoulders above the other 2, no contest here, dude is arguably the greatest defensive guard ever, plus he was a better rebounder than Allen and gets the edge in playmaking/passing too (in 1982 even lead the team in points, rebounds and assists, being 3rd in FG% and 4th in FT%, 2nd in steals and 6th in blocks). Ray and Reggie two of the biggest shot-makers in the clutch but Moncrief was pretty clutch too and came to play hard every night;
-As the main-man Sir Sid led his team to 50+W 5 times, besting at 59, 57 and 55, almost always making the ECF, oh and playing in arguably the GOAT conference (not to belittle his teammates because he had some really good ones, and coach too)
-From 82 to 86, in his prime before injuries, Mon was putting up 21.0/5.8/4.7 on .592 TS% with elite defense, in 1983 putting up 22.5/5.8/3.9 on .602 TS% and winning DPOY; from 81 to 88, counting a year when he was not in his prime and 3 injured seasons even, he averaged 18.2/5.5/4.0 on .570 TS%, peaking at 23.0/4.3/5.0 on .697 TS% (!!) in 1985, during the course of 8 games, even injured at one point.. and the only SG who can claim to have outplayed MJ in a playoff series h2h, that year.
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Check the 1st 2 posts and more, here: [url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=312018[/url]
Check these too: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ADAo3W4Hos[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFV59cFZi-U[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm1EEsgoITE[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8-N2z1tI0Y[/url]
I'm sorry, Ray and Reggie can't really **** with all of the above (speaking of primes/peaks), and again, like I've said, if it wasn't for longevity (due to injuries) we wouldn't even be discussing who's above, much.
You're underrating Dumars too.. Dude was a really good shooter and could really score, although those two go to Ray and Reggie, scoring is close though. Joey couldn't rebound much but he was clearly a better passer/playmaker than those other 2 (even Moncrief), defense is not even that close also. He also was 10th in MVP voting and 2nd all-nba with some terrific guards in the league (all-defensive 1st too). Now Joe's prime/peak is not really ****ing with Moncrief's but he's up there with Ray or Reggie (you can make arguments for all here), and he won 2 rings with 1 FMVP, that holds weight on this discussion.
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[QUOTE=SHAQisGOAT][B]Better peak(s) than Moncrief? No, just stop it, you're probably only looking at PPG or something lol.
-Sid was top10 in MVP voting 5 times, finishing 4th once, again, he made 5 all-nba teams, and was 1st once, with Magic, Gervin, Jordan or Isiah in the league, he's 5x all-defensive including 4 1st and has 2 DPOY's as a guard (most), made like 3 all-star games as a starter too;
-Moncrief was a good overall shooter but ofc as far as shooting Ray and Reggie are clearly above, I'd also put them above as far as scoring but the gap there is not big AT ALL, Sid was better at ISO with a really quick 1st step and he was easily a better finisher than either of them, better in the post too and was more athletic. Talking about defense, Sidney is just head-and-shoulders above the other 2, no contest here, dude is arguably the greatest defensive guard ever, plus he was a better rebounder than Allen and gets the edge in playmaking/passing too (in 1982 even lead the team in points, rebounds and assists, being 3rd in FG% and 4th in FT%, 2nd in steals and 6th in blocks). Ray and Reggie two of the biggest shot-makers in the clutch but Moncrief was pretty clutch too and came to play hard every night;
-As the main-man Sir Sid led his team to 50+W 5 times, besting at 59, 57 and 55, almost always making the ECF, oh and playing in arguably the GOAT conference (not to belittle his teammates because he had some really good ones, and coach too)
-From 82 to 86, in his prime before injuries, Mon was putting up 21.0/5.8/4.7 on .592 TS% with elite defense, in 1983 putting up 22.5/5.8/3.9 on .602 TS% and winning DPOY; from 81 to 88, counting a year when he was not in his prime and 3 injured seasons even, he averaged 18.2/5.5/4.0 on .570 TS%, peaking at 23.0/4.3/5.0 .697 TS% (!!) in 1985, during the course of 8 games, even injured at one point.. and the only SG who can claim to have outplayed MJ in a playoff series h2h, that year.
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Check the 1st 2 posts and more, here: [url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=312018[/url]
Check these too: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ADAo3W4Hos[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFV59cFZi-U[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm1EEsgoITE[/url]
I'm sorry, Ray and Reggie can't really **** with all of the above (speaking of primes/peaks), and again, like I've said, if it wasn't for longevity (due to injuries) we wouldn't even be discussing who's above, much.
You're underrating Dumars too.. Dude was a really good shooter and could really score, although those two go to Ray and Reggie, scoring is close though. Joey couldn't rebound much but he was clearly a better passer/playmaker than those other 2 (even Moncrief), defense is not even that close also. He also was 10th in MVP voting and 2nd all-nba with some terrific guards in the league (all-defensive 1st too). Now Joe's prime/peak is not really ****ing with Moncrief's but he's up there with Ray or Reggie (you can make arguments for all here), and he won 2 rings with 1 FMVP, that holds weight on this discussion.
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I hear you on all accounts man...the only thing I disagree with you is about dumars peak...his peak is up there but I think both their peaks (especially rays) was better then dumars about moncrief you def dropped some knowledge with his team leadership and I totally overlooked his 2 defensive player of the yr awards...I'm gonna have to go check out some moncrief highlights and get back to you lol...I've seen enough of dumars though and hes probably at my 10th spot (that spot interchanges so much for me because of other talented 2 guards lol) but I definitely think ray ray is above dumars in all time rankings like I said it can be argued for sure I won't sit here and say its not debatable but your not swaying my mind with dumars over ray ray
Wade had to compete with the likes of Kobe, Nash, Paul for most of his career. Not to mention the likes of Iverson, McGrady, Ray Allen earlier in his career.
Who the hell was west's competition other than Robertson at the guard position? Sam jones? You do realize Hal Greer was making all nba 2nd team behind West?
And are people really arguing Iverson > Wade? Based on what? A MVP trophy? Wtf...
[QUOTE=Boston C's]I hear you on all accounts man...the only thing I disagree with you is about dumars peak...his peak is up there but I think both their peaks (especially rays) was better then dumars about moncrief you def dropped some knowledge with his team leadership and I totally overlooked his 2 defensive player of the yr awards...I'm gonna have to go check out some moncrief highlights and get back to you lol...I've seen enough of dumars though and hes probably at my 10th spot (that spot interchanges so much for me because of other talented 2 guards lol) but I definitely think ray ray is above dumars in all time rankings like I said it can be argued for sure I won't sit here and say its not debatable but your not swaying my mind with dumars over ray ray[/QUOTE]
[B]Yea man, Sid was just amazing, shame for injuries (and small market coverage).
Regarding Dumars, like I've said, it can be argued who has a better peak (between him and Allen/Miller) and as far as careers is also arguable but considering everything I gotta put Joey D above, not that it isn't really close though.[/B]
[QUOTE=SHAQisGOAT][B]Yea man, Sid was just amazing, shame for injuries (and small market coverage).
Regarding Dumars, like I've said, it can be argued who has a better peak (between him and Allen/Miller) and as far as careers is also arguable but considering everything I gotta put Joey D above, not that it isn't really close though.[/B][/QUOTE]
na I hear you man...not gonna be like most of these stans and shove my opinions down your throat glad you arent doin the same haha...nothing wrong with just a good discussion without ppl going awol on the keyboard :lol
[QUOTE=Boston C's]na I hear you man...not gonna be like most of these stans and shove my opinions down your throat glad you arent doin the same haha...nothing wrong with just a good discussion without ppl going awol on the keyboard :lol[/QUOTE]
:cheers:
[QUOTE=SHAQisGOAT]:cheers:[/QUOTE]
One thing I don't get that seems to be consistent on most ppls lists is the iceman...I know I'm probably in the minority but I consider him more of a small forward then a 2 guard
[QUOTE=Boston C's]One thing I don't get that seems to be consistent on most ppls lists is the iceman...I know I'm probably in the minority but I consider him more of a small forward then a 2 guard[/QUOTE]
[B]Well he spent most of his prime at the 2, and he was more of a SG on the court (didn't expand his range all that much and had a good post-game though, finished plenty at the rim also).. (I believe) Olberding was the SF at first, then during the later years of Gervin's prime they had Mike Mitchell at the 3, dude who could also put the ball in the basket at a high rate. You can see that George was also making all-nba at guard, not forward.
Oh and the Iceman had a great, and sometimes underrated, career.. One of the greatest scorers the game has ever seen with plenty of ways to do it (and always making it look easy), solid rebounder and not a bad passer also, good off-ball defender too. He was twice #2 in MVP voting, 3rd and 5th once too, 5 all-nba 1st, all-star a bunch of times, 5x scoring champ, 4 times top5 in PER, greatest SG in the league during many years, and he actually raised his game in the PS more than enough, leading his team deep various times, almost making the Finals once, with pretty good teammates here and there but nothing to really brag much about.
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Mj
Kobe
Wade
West
Cylde
Greer
AI
Mcgrady
Gervin
Sam Jones
:roll: @ray allen and manu reggie top ten
Anyone that has Manu in top 10 is high on hallucinogens.
[QUOTE=D.J.]Wade has only been to 4 Finals and of the 3 he did win, he was a sidekick in 2 of them. You don't get to conveniently punish a guy for playing in another era. You still have not successfully refuted the stats I posted that clearly put West over Wade. If Wade was so great, why does he have only 2 All-NBA 1st teams? Why has he never made an All-Defensive 1st team? Why has he never been so much as a runner up(never mind actually winning) for MVP?[/QUOTE]
fvck that second option shit.. Wade's been so crucial to this current 3 peat.. he steps up when needed and always produces in dire moments. If the Heat end up winning 3-4 chips he'll have a case against West.
[QUOTE=Ball So Harden]1. Michael Jordan
2. Jerry West
3. Kobe Bryant
4. Dwyane Wade
5. Clyde Drexler
6. Allen Iverson
7. Reggie Miller
8. George Gervin
9. Ray Allen
10. James Harden[/QUOTE]
:roll:
[QUOTE=Ball So Harden]1. Michael Jordan
2. Jerry West
3. Kobe Bryant
4. Dwyane Wade
5. Clyde Drexler
6. Allen Iverson
7. Reggie Miller
8. George Gervin
9. Ray Allen
[B][SIZE="7"]10. James Harden[/SIZE][/B][/QUOTE]
R.I.P to your credibility.
[B]#1 michael Jordan 30ppg, 6 titles, 5 mvps, 11 all nba, 14 allstar, 9 all defense
#2 Kobe bryant 25ppg, 5 titles, 1 mvp, 15 all nba, 15 allstar, 12 all defense
#3 dwyane Wade 24ppg, 3 titles, 0 mvps, 8 all nba, 9 allstar, 3 all defense
#4 allen Iverson 26ppg, 0 titles, 1 mvp, 7 all nba, 11 allstar
#5 clyde Drexler 20ppg, 1 title, 0 mvps, 5 all nba, 10 allstar
#6 Hal Greer 19ppg, 1 title, 0 mvps, 7 all nba, 10 allstar
#7 George gervin 25ppg, 0 titles, 0 mvps, 7 all nba, 9 allstar
#8 Ray Allen 19ppg, 2 titles, 0 mvps, 2 all nba, 10 allstar
#9 Sam Jones 17ppg, 10 titles, 0 mvps, 3 all nba, 5 allstar
#10 Joe Dumars 16ppg, 2 titles, 0 mvps, 3 all nba, 6 allstar, 5 all defense
honorable mention:
Reggie Miller 18ppg, 0 titles, 0 mvps, 3 all nba, 5 allstar
****jerry west is not a shooting guard. he played 12 of 14 seasons officially listed at point guard
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[QUOTE=kennethgriffin][B]#1 michael Jordan 30ppg, 6 titles, 5 mvps, 11 all nba, 14 allstar, 9 all defense
#2 Kobe bryant 25ppg, 5 titles, 1 mvp, 15 all nba, 15 allstar, 12 all defense
#3 dwyane Wade 24ppg, 3 titles, 0 mvps, 8 all nba, 9 allstar, 3 all defense
#4 allen Iverson 26ppg, 0 titles, 1 mvp, 7 all nba, 11 allstar
#5 clyde Drexler 20ppg, 1 title, 0 mvps, 5 all nba, 10 allstar
#6 Hal Greer 19ppg, 1 title, 0 mvps, 7 all nba, 10 allstar
#7 George gervin 25ppg, 0 titles, 0 mvps, 7 all nba, 9 allstar
#8 Ray Allen 19ppg, 2 titles, 0 mvps, 2 all nba, 10 allstar
#9 Sam Jones 17ppg, 10 titles, 0 mvps, 3 all nba, 5 allstar
#10 Joe Dumars 16ppg, 2 titles, 0 mvps, 3 all nba, 6 allstar, 5 all defense
honorable mention:
Reggie Miller 18ppg, 0 titles, 0 mvps, 3 all nba, 5 allstar
****jerry west is not a shooting guard. he played 12 of 14 seasons officially listed at point guard
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You think you're soooo smart don't you?
[QUOTE=houston]Mj
Kobe
Wade
West
Cylde
Greer
AI
Mcgrady
Gervin
Sam Jones
:roll: @ray allen and manu reggie top ten[/QUOTE]
your a dumbass...if your gonna leave those dudes out (which is hard pressed besides manu actually) then at least don't be a moron and put mcgrady up there :lol
you coulda chosen moncrief or dumars or monroe hell you only listed 9 anyways :lol
[quote=Ball So Harden]1. Michael Jordan
2. Jerry West
3. Kobe Bryant
4. Dwyane Wade
5. Clyde Drexler
6. Allen Iverson
7. Reggie Miller
8. George Gervin
9. Ray Allen
10. [SIZE=7]James Harden[/SIZE][/quote]
i can't stop laughing thank you
Mj
Kobe
Wade
Drexler
A.I
Tmac
Manu
Allen
Gervin
Vince
Miller
[QUOTE=tpols]fvck that second option shit.. Wade's been so crucial to this current 3 peat.. he steps up when needed and always produces in dire moments. If the Heat end up winning 3-4 chips he'll have a case against West.[/QUOTE]
Wow! Tpols, this must be the first time that you EVER posted anything positive about a Heat player. Please tell me that this isn't to deride LeBron...
[QUOTE=VengefulAngel]
Reggie Miller
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:biggums:
carter
richmond
sprewell
three guys who were better than him playing at the same time.
My favorite 10 guards:
Jordan
Kobe
David Thompson
Wade
Gervin (more of a SF but easily transitioned to SG)
Clyde
Sam Jones
West (I consider more of a combo guard but his SG skills put him on the list)
Richmond
Doug Collins
[QUOTE=aj1987]Wow! Tpols, this must be the first time that you EVER posted anything positive about a Heat player. Please tell me that this isn't to deride LeBron...[/QUOTE]It is unfortunately. He wants to push his 'Kobe wasn't a #2 option agenda". Wrong once again too.:oldlol:
[QUOTE=Doctor Rivers]1. Michael Jordan
2. Dwyane Wade
3. Kobe Bryant
4. Jerry West
5. Clyde Drexler
6. George Gervin
7. Manu Ginobili
8. Allen Iverson
9. Ray Allen
10. Mitch Richmond[/QUOTE]
Wanted to see who the first idiot to have Kobe lower than 2nd would be. Didn't have to go far.
:oldlol: :oldlol:
Of all 5 positions in basketball, shooting guard top 10 lists are the only ones that have a clear cut 1 and 2. Mike followed by Kobe.
Anyone who has it any other way doesn't know what the hell they're talking about.
1. Michael Jordan
2. Dwyane Wade
3. Kobe Bryant
4. Clyde Drexler
5. Jerry West
6. George Gervin
7. Allen Iverson
8. Ray Allen
9. Vince Carter
10.David Thompson
[QUOTE=dajadeed]Of all 5 positions in basketball, shooting guard top 10 lists are the only ones that have a clear cut 1 and 2. Mike followed by Kobe.
Anyone who has it any other way doesn't know what the hell they're talking about.[/QUOTE]
Na dude. Kobe Bryant was not better than jerry west no matter how much espn tells you is. Jerry west was a much better playoff performer. That should let you know how little that ring counting means.
Jordan
West
Kobe
Wade
Drexler
After top 5 I don't really care. Many ways u can go
[QUOTE=Bob Dole]Na dude. Kobe Bryant was not better than jerry west no matter how much espn tells you is. Jerry west was a much better playoff performer. That should let you know how little that ring counting means.
Jordan
West
Kobe
Wade
Drexler
After top 5 I don't really care. Many ways u can go[/QUOTE]
Where do you rank Wilt?
[QUOTE=dajadeed]Of all 5 positions in basketball, shooting guard top 10 lists are the only ones that have a clear cut 1 and 2. Mike followed by Kobe.
Anyone who has it any other way doesn't know what the hell they're talking about.[/QUOTE]
SF too. Bird and LeBron.