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[QUOTE=fiddy]What are they missing? Justin Bieber? Miley Cyrus? Gay Marriages? Feminism? Western society has been going downhill as well for some time.[/QUOTE]
Hardly on the level of terrorist attacks, public stonings/be headings and other brutal acts that are only reserved for people with fcked up issues...
Western society isn't perfect, but we certainly aren't this barbaric.
We need to just nuke the Middle East and Africa and rid the world of these people.
Well I learned one thing from this video, Allah is the Greatest. As they said a million ****ing times
[QUOTE=Fork]Well I learned one thing from this video, Allah is the Greatest. As they said a million ****ing times[/QUOTE]
You obviously havent checked the syrian videos, this mfers scream snackbars (allah akbar) while they are getting bombed, shot and killed, to their last breath :facepalm
[QUOTE=poido123]These Fcked up countries living in 4th world mentality just piss me right off.
nothing good comes from these countries harboring extremist groups and men who support women oppression.
This sounds bad, but the world would be better off if we wiped Saudi Arabia and other religious fanatic harboring countries off the face of the earth and start again. These neanderthal living degenerates need to catch up with the times...[/QUOTE]
I get what you're trying to say, but you do know that that would wipe out millions of innocents as well, right? Kids and women. Can you live with that kind of collateral damage?
The rest of the world should just ****ing give up on the middle east. It's pointless to try anymore. Let them kill themselves.
Also, idiots from the US, Russia, France, etc. joining ISIS.
[url]http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/24/world/meast/iraq-foreign-fighters/[/url]
Brainwashed muppets.
[QUOTE=BasedTom]:biggums:
It's like you think supporting an oppressive apartheid state is a good thing. If USA bombed Serbia for what they did, then the Zionist state in Palestine deserves much much worse. But where's the money in that?[/QUOTE]
how israel treats the occupied territories is awful. But Israel is still the only genuine democracy within its actual boarders. Arabs vote and are in the israeli knesset. Its a complex situation.
Even if you count that as a negative overall USA is still doing far more good than evil.
I forgot about how we stopped the ethnic cleansing in Yugoslavia, and helped kosovo achieve independence. USA defeating Milosevic :bowdown: :bowdown: America does so much good its hard to keep track
[QUOTE=BlazerRed]We need to just nuke the Middle East and Africa and rid the world of these people.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=MavsSuperFan]:rolleyes: I honestly believe a pro american dictator would have yielded the best practical results for the iraqi people.
We are fine in america either way. If iraq explodes in a civil war it wont affect us in america in any meaningful way, except increasing gas prices.
This civil war will cost many lives and displaces many others. [B]Its kind of our fault for cracking the lid on the pressure cooker, by getting rid of Saddam unleashing the volatile sectarian ambitions[/B]
the worst case scenario is that what is happening in Iraq triggers a massive war between the Sunni Powers in the region and Iran, Assad's syria and shia iraq. that would be a tragedy, and the primal reason for it will have been the bush administrations poor management of the occupation of Iraq[/QUOTE]
C'mon man, the pressure cooker would have cracked regardless of what we did eventually. The problems in the Islamic world are internal, not caused by American foreign policy, perhaps triggered, but certainly not caused.
I personally thought this was a good and insightful essay (even if it is a bit pious):
[url]http://www.tonyblairoffice.org/news/entry/iraq-syria-and-the-middle-east-an-essay-by-tony-blair/[/url]
The problem is far more complex than the 'America iz bad' idealists really want to acknowledge.
[QUOTE=MavsSuperFan]how israel treats the occupied territories is awful. [B]But Israel is still the only genuine democracy within its actual boarders. [/B]Arabs vote and are in the israeli knesset. Its a complex situation.
Even if you count that as a negative overall USA is still doing far more good than evil.
I forgot about how we stopped the ethnic cleansing in Yugoslavia, and helped kosovo achieve independence. USA defeating Milosevic :bowdown: :bowdown: America does so much good its hard to keep track[/QUOTE]
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the boarders America created to give all Jews the home they never had after WW2:roll: :roll:
[QUOTE=ace23]Link in the OP is down. Anybody have another?[/QUOTE]
The link is still up
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Make an actual argument
[QUOTE=pastis][B][B][B]americans truly believe that their foreign policy is appreciated in the world.[/B][/B][/B] thats so funny, its like the 30s and 40s in germany, most germans thought that occuppying countrys is their right.
americans are one of the most hated poeple out there. where did they do anything good in the world? rebuilding germany wasnt due for charity`s sake. they were afraid of soviet union and needed a strong partner at the fronline.
if i imagine what they did in panama etc etc etc:facepalm[/QUOTE]
I have never said that. Lots of kids are ungrateful to their parents.
List the negatives of american foreign policy, I assure you the positives out weigh it.
[QUOTE]where did they do anything good in the world? [/QUOTE]
Tell me what was wrong about stopping Milosevic for committing ethnic cleansing/genocide
[QUOTE=BlazerRed]We need to just nuke the Middle East and Africa and rid the world of these people.[/QUOTE]
Get it done Obama :cheers:
[QUOTE=Dresta]C'mon man, the pressure cooker would have cracked regardless of what we did eventually. The problems in the Islamic world are internal, not caused by American foreign policy, perhaps triggered, but certainly not caused.
I personally thought this was a good and insightful essay (even if it is a bit pious):
[url]http://www.tonyblairoffice.org/news/entry/iraq-syria-and-the-middle-east-an-essay-by-tony-blair/[/url]
The problem is far more complex than the 'America iz bad' idealists really want to acknowledge.[/QUOTE]
I agree, but we definitely triggered it was my point.
I definitely think Bush insisting on democratic elections and the failure of the US to crush insurgents was a major reason for the civil war.
[QUOTE]C'mon man, the pressure cooker would have cracked regardless of what we did eventually. The problems in the Islamic world are internal, not caused by American foreign policy, perhaps triggered, but certainly not caused[/QUOTE]
Maybe, maybe not. Saddam had a pretty tight handle on things before we sent him running.
His military was also good at preventing the kurds and shia from raising up.
[QUOTE=Fork]Get it done Obama :cheers:[/QUOTE]
:biggums: :facepalm
[QUOTE=MavsSuperFan]The link is still up[/QUOTE]
It was removed when I clicked on it before. Now it's back.
[QUOTE=Marlo_Stanfield]hell they killed Che Guevara and didnt even try to hide it:roll: :roll:
but he bad bad an evil communist tho.
Panama,Niaragua,Vietnam,Iraq,Libya and that are just a few examples:facepalm :facepalm[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Panama,Niaragua,[/QUOTE]
South America is somewhat of a black eye on US foreign policy. We have made it up to these countries via economic aid.
Also we gave the panama canal back to panama.
[QUOTE]Vietnam[/QUOTE]
Arguably Vietnamese people would have been better off had Saigon triumphed over hanoi
Overall I agree though this is a major black mark on US foreign policy
Interesting to note the communist vietnamese have gotten over the vietnam war and are looking to the US to help them in their territorial dispute with china.
[url]http://www.voanews.com/content/vietnam-wants-larger-us-role-in-dispute-with-china/1932793.html[/url]
[QUOTE]STATE DEPARTMENT — Vietnam wants the United States to play a bigger role in settling territorial disputes with China. Washington is refusing, though, to take a stand on the location of a Chinese oil rig that Vietnam says is in its territorial waters.
Vietnam says this video shows China's coast guard ramming a Vietnamese fishing vessel last month near a Chinese oil rig in disputed South China Sea waters.
Chinese Foreign Ministry Spokesman Hong Lei said that is not what happened. "In the relevant seas, China's ships were on the defensive and Vietnam's ships were on the offensive.[/QUOTE]
Vietnam turning to america to help defend its sovereignty against a hegemonistic power like many other nations.:applause: :applause:
[QUOTE]Iraq[/QUOTE]
Already said this was a black mark on US foreign policy. We triggered the civil war. We should have either left saddam in charge and never invaded or selected a dictator from within his military. Disbanding the baath party and saddam's military was a mistake
[QUOTE]Libya[/QUOTE]
Gaddafi promised to massacre the innocent ppl of benghazi
US foreign Policy has accomplished tons more good than this.
for starters compare the difference in quality of life between a north korean and a south korean.
Compare the political freedoms in taiwan to mainland china.
US foreign policy deserves a huge amount of credit in improving the lives of millions.
[QUOTE= BlazerRed]We need to just nuke the Middle East and Africa and rid the world of these people.[/QUOTE]
A piece of shit in the NBA forum and in general. We need to castrate people like you.
You know that the US is overall viewed positively by countries (other than in south america and the middle east) that havent been spoiled by the economic benefits and military protection given to them (IE. ingrates know as Western Europeans) by these 2 facts:
In asia countries seek out the help of the United States in mediating their disputes with China.
In Eastern Europe countries seek out the help of the United States in mediating their disputes with Russia.
Didnt watch but why no comments? disabled?
[QUOTE=MavsSuperFan]You know that the US is overall viewed positively by countries (other than in south america and the middle east) that havent been spoiled by the economic benefits and military protection given to them (IE. ingrates know as Western Europeans) by these 2 facts:
In asia countries seek out the help of the United States in mediating their disputes with [B]China.[/B]
In Eastern Europe countries seek out the help of the United States in mediating their disputes with [B]Russia[/B].[/QUOTE]
That's almost half the world population:biggums:
[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater]Didnt watch but why no comments? disabled?[/QUOTE]
I think ISIL controls the youtube channel, they are deleting comments
[QUOTE=Rodmantheman]That's almost half the world population:biggums:[/QUOTE]
World population 7.17 billion +
China: 1.36 billion
Russia 146 million
about 1/5th of the world population, who in china live under a dictatorial government
and in russia, lived under a flawed democracy, with many irregularities during elections and suppression of opposition candidates
Both are historically and currently hegemonic powers threatening their weaker neighbors. Both countries spend massive amounts on their militaries and seek to intimidate weaker nations into compliances
[QUOTE=fiddy]What are they missing? Justin Bieber? Miley Cyrus? Gay Marriages? Feminism? Western society has been going downhill as well for some time.[/QUOTE]
You just made that comparison?
Spoiled little rat.
"Ohhh nooo Justin Bieber is on the radio!!! God I can't stand this world.... Why, WHY IS THIS HAPPENING TO ME?!?!??! GOD WHYYY! I dont deserve this!"
[QUOTE=MavsSuperFan]You know that the US is overall viewed positively by countries (other than in south america and the middle east) that havent been spoiled by the economic benefits and military protection given to them (IE. ingrates know as Western Europeans) by these 2 facts:
In asia countries seek out the help of the United States in mediating their disputes with China.
In Eastern Europe countries seek out the help of the United States in mediating their disputes with Russia.[/QUOTE]
:facepalm
Of course they do that, the US is half a world away while Russia and China are knocking in their front door. They would do the same if the positions were reversed, its a way for the smaller countries to maintain their independence, pitting the big guys against one another.
And **** you with your "America has made it good with South America through aid". They have ****ed up almost all Central American countries for hundreds of years and you think some millions of dollars in aid will change anything, when the underlying factors for the impoverishment of the area will continue to exist.
I like the U.S and agree with the liberal principles they defend but U.S citizens in general love to talk about stuff they have no idea about. Their invasion of Iraq was complete bullshit, no other country other than the U.S, Britain, Australia (only 2k soldiers) and Poland (194 soldiers :oldlol: ) supported it. Saddam was massacring the Iraqis for the last 20 years, i don't remember the US hurrying to free them. WMDs were a bullshit excuse, in Britain they forged reports to make it seem more likely that they existed which was discovered by the parliament (research September Dossier).
[QUOTE=Marlo_Stanfield]hell they killed Che Guevara and didnt even try to hide it:roll: :roll:
but he bad bad an evil communist tho.
Panama,Niaragua,Vietnam,Iraq,Libya and that are just a few examples:facepalm :facepalm[/QUOTE]
Killing Che Guevara was really one of the only good things the U.S did in South/Central America.
He was a ****ing psycho, a real sociopath. Read up on his actions during and after the revolt in Cuba. Also he was all talk and no action, after Cuba did the revolution he became the minister of industry/president of their FED and finished ****ing up their economy.
Cuba possibly only became communist because of Bay of Pigs disaster though, forcing Fidel to make Cuba a Marxist state and get the support of the Soviet Union.
[QUOTE=moe94]Wow.[/QUOTE]
how do u feel about that moe?
Wasn't even that bad
moe u seem to have lost youredge.
[QUOTE=BuffaloBill]How much did you watch?[/QUOTE]
I skipped through watching most of the executions.
[QUOTE=JohnFreeman]Wasn't even that bad[/QUOTE]
it was entertaining doe
[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater]You just made that comparison?
Spoiled little rat.
"Ohhh nooo Justin Bieber is on the radio!!! God I can't stand this world.... Why, WHY IS THIS HAPPENING TO ME?!?!??! GOD WHYYY! I dont deserve this!"[/QUOTE]
Dont even reply to my posts you bangwagoner scum
[QUOTE=aj1987]I get what you're trying to say, but you do know that that would wipe out millions of innocents as well, right? Kids and women. Can you live with that kind of collateral damage?
The rest of the world should just ****ing give up on the middle east. It's pointless to try anymore. Let them kill themselves.
Also, idiots from the US, Russia, France, etc. joining ISIS.
[url]http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/24/world/meast/iraq-foreign-fighters/[/url]
Brainwashed muppets.[/QUOTE]
You can add australia to the list. There are brainwashed idiots joining is is here too :facepalm:
The women and children part I have no answer for. I guess natural disasters don't make allowances for them either. Call it a much needed toilet flush for the earth to breathe and benefit from.
What I'm saying Is, the greater good outweighs the negatives.
Here In Australia, we have these problems on our doorstep. We ha e too many immigrants from ethnic backgrounds that band together and use our own laws against us. While these countries have no problem enforcing their law on us, we are supposed to uphold and respect their customs by allowing peculiar body clothing and mosques to be erected for them.
The only language these scumbags understand is a hard line approach. They are using intimidation and scare tactics to control the masses and exploit our value for life. If we don't make A stand, we will let these people infiltrate our way of life and be wiped out when it's all too late.
[QUOTE=poido123]
The only language these scumbags understand is a hard line approach. They are using intimidation and scare tactics to control the masses and exploit our value for life. If we don't make A stand, we will let these people infiltrate our way of life and be wiped out when it's all too late.[/QUOTE]
:applause:
[QUOTE=poido123]You can add australia to the list. There are brainwashed idiots joining is is here too :facepalm:
The women and children part I have no answer for. I guess natural disasters don't make allowances for them either. Call it a much needed toilet flush for the earth to breathe and benefit from.
What I'm saying Is, the greater good outweighs the negatives.
Here In Australia, we have these problems on our doorstep. We ha e too many immigrants from ethnic backgrounds that band together and use our own laws against us. While these countries have no problem enforcing their law on us, we are supposed to uphold and respect their customs by allowing peculiar body clothing and mosques to be erected for them.
The only language these scumbags understand is a hard line approach. They are using intimidation and scare tactics to control the masses and exploit our value for life. If we don't make A stand, we will let these people infiltrate our way of life and be wiped out when it's all too late.[/QUOTE]
Wow, are you some kind of racist?
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Men of peace like this are just being victimized by the oppressive heterosexual white non-jewish male. Diversity is strength! So remember to let men like these rape your women, kill your countrymen, and destroy your nation's traditions and culture. Look at how multiculturalism is making Sweden and France great!
Radicalists and violent criminals? No- you have it all wrong. This was the latest "Sweden Appreciation Day"
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As you can see here, the immigrants are assimilating just fine into the European way of life! Soon they'll be throwing bananas at football players and wearing adidas tracksuits around town.
Poido showing his true racist colors :roll: :roll: :biggums:
[QUOTE=moe94]Wow.[/QUOTE]
I'd have no problem with this. If Obama just dropped a nuclear bomb on the entire area and said 'my bad' and we have to pretend like nothing ever happened, I would be 100% cool with the outcome.
[QUOTE=poido123]You can add australia to the list. There are brainwashed idiots joining is is here too :facepalm:
The women and children part I have no answer for. I guess natural disasters don't make allowances for them either. Call it a much needed toilet flush for the earth to breathe and benefit from.
What I'm saying Is, the greater good outweighs the negatives.
Here In Australia, we have these problems on our doorstep. We ha e too many immigrants from ethnic backgrounds that band together and use our own laws against us. While these countries have no problem enforcing their law on us, we are supposed to uphold and respect their customs by allowing peculiar body clothing and mosques to be erected for them.
The only language these scumbags understand is a hard line approach. They are using intimidation and scare tactics to control the masses and exploit our value for life. If we don't make A stand, we will let these people infiltrate our way of life and be wiped out when it's all too late.[/QUOTE]
It's on a much smaller scale here in Australia and we are fortunate to be living on an island. But you're right, Sydney is already a mess.
That said, nearly all the immigrants are refugees who the country is forced to take in as part of its United Nations agreement. And Australia has far less tolerance for those who refuse to assimilate than do other 1st world countries. multiculturalism is obviously a terrible policy that has failed everywhere but the problem with setting up a white country below Asia or above Mexico is that eventually the whites become affluent and then lazy and do not want to do the blue collar jobs, and decide to bring in other cultures to perform these roles, and this eventually spirals into the degeneracy known as multiculturalism.
What pisses me off is how they get set up with every entitlement imaginable and act like they own the place.
[QUOTE=masonanddixon]I'd have no problem with this. If Obama just dropped a nuclear bomb on the entire area and said 'my bad' and we have to pretend like nothing ever happened, I would be 100% cool with the outcome.[/QUOTE]
Iran was a pretty nice place with a rich history and culture, with their own religion as well before shit hit the fan. Anatolia had the Byzantines (Turks are cool as well, IMO)
then there's the Levant, which has had many different vastly different cultures and ethnic groups inhabit it. A lot of people don't seem to be aware of the fact that Christians have lived and still live in the region.
It wasn't always in the same shitty state it is now.
[QUOTE=BasedTom]Iran was a pretty nice place with a rich history and culture, with their own religion as well before shit hit the fan. Anatolia had the Byzantines (Turks are cool as well, IMO)
then there's the Levant, which has had many different vastly different cultures and ethnic groups inhabit it. A lot of people don't seem to be aware of the fact that Christians have lived and still live in the region.
It wasn't always in the same shitty state it is now.[/QUOTE]
Dude the Fertile Crescent was in Modern Day Iraq. Modern Day Iran produced some of the greatest scholars of late BC-early AD but the entire region is a cesspool today and would be best served starting over with a blank slate.
[QUOTE=masonanddixon]Dude the Fertile Crescent was in Modern Day Iraq. Modern Day Iran produced some of the greatest scholars of late BC-early AD but the entire region is a cesspool today and would be best served starting over with a blank slate.[/QUOTE]
Yes of course. But nukes and "a blank slate" seem a bit harsh no? Punishing millions of people for the actions of a smaller, but still significant, number of [COLOR="Black"]f[/COLOR]ucktards that have gone out of their way to ruin things is rather unfair no matter how you slice it.
Another Crusade would suffice. This time with 'Murrica leading the way and with Pope Francis's blessing. Argentina might not ever get the Falklands, but maybe they can get some nice territory out there?
[QUOTE=BasedTom]Yes of course. But nukes and "a blank slate" seem a bit harsh no? Punishing millions of people for the actions of a smaller, but still significant, number of [COLOR="Black"]f[/COLOR]ucktards that have gone out of their way to ruin things.
Another Crusade would suffice. This time with 'Murrica leading the way and with Pope Francis's blessing. Argentina might not ever get the Falklands, but maybe they can get some nice territory out there?[/QUOTE]
How so? Just tell all the fundamentalists to stay there and everyone else can leave, and then proceed to bomb the hell out of them. It's better than the alternative, which is them ruining everywhere else in the world.
Plus anything that reduces the world's population is a huge accomplishment.