Religion aside, abortion is wrong. All babies deserve a chance to live

[QUOTE=Orlando Magic]You still failed to answer the question, and you can't even comprehend the fact that you failed to answer the question, and yet you far surpass me intellectually, haha. Ok.[/QUOTE]


:facepalm

i don't even care, since arguing with religious people is always a waste of time because they aren't grounded in reality or practical thought at all.

[QUOTE=Orlando Magic]Intellectually, you are not on my level, as you have repeatedly failed to answer the simple question of where morals came from and what they mean if God didn't instill them. Hint: I already gave you the answer.[/QUOTE]
Christianity is a corrupted offshoot of Judaism mixed with European pagan traditions. If there is a 'word of god', Christianity is not the religion that preaches it.

[QUOTE=Godzuki]:facepalm

i don't even care, since arguing with religious people is always a waste of time because they aren't grounded in reality or practical thought at all.[/QUOTE]

You do care, you're just an idiot.

Nowitness potentially(from my viewpoint) is what you aspire to be, but will never be. An intellectual unbeliever. You're just an idiotic unbeliever.

Intelligence can be stretched but ultimately it is what it is, it can't be developed, and you're lacking.


Nowitness... You might be right, as I admitted that it was one of the two options, I just can't accept that. Because, absolutely correct, I could just do whatever the **** I wanted and it all means nothing.

I personally have a deep emotional problem with the idea that this all means nothing. I can't separate myself from that fear... of death... and that I'm never coming back. An eternity of nothing. Yes, I understand the concept of not existing and thus not having to worry about it because my consciousness is gone. I get all that... it still bothers me.

But anyways...

if people stop holding such high regards/focus on unemployment rate, as well as unemployment benefits.

sure.

[QUOTE=Orlando Magic]You do care, you're just an idiot.

Nowitness potentially(from my viewpoint) is what you aspire to be, but will never be. An intellectual unbeliever. You're just an idiotic unbeliever.

Intelligence can be stretched but ultimately it is what it is, it can't be developed, and you're lacking.


Nowitness... You might be right, as I admitted that it was one of the two options, I just can't accept that. Because, absolutely correct, I could just do whatever the **** I wanted and it all means nothing.

I personally have a deep emotional problem with the idea that this all means nothing. I can't separate myself from that fear... of death... and that I'm never coming back. An eternity of nothing. Yes, I understand the concept of not existing and thus not having to worry about it because my consciousness is gone. I get all that... it still bothers me.

But anyways...[/QUOTE]

What you have just done is affirmed your fear. You fear that this is it, so under the banner of either God or religion you use wish thinking. Sorry, I refuse to do this.

If you want to believe in an afterlife so be it, I will never change your opinion. Don't spread it on anyone else, have a serious debate with me here. I sympathize with you, I fear dying (not death, just look at it as the state you were in before birth). Make of this life (the only thing which is 99% surefire) what you can. Don't waste it by believing there is more.

BTW explain this intelligence to me that you have. I love how believers instantly resort to insult like calling Atheists dumb, I don't think you're dumb for believing thousand year old fairytales, it does however mean you're sure of an answer, the dumbest of all positions one can hold.

Godzuki is a phakkit.

[QUOTE=Nowitness]What you have just done is affirmed your fear. You fear that this is it, so under the banner of either God or religion you use wish thinking. Sorry, I refuse to do this.

If you want to believe in an afterlife so be it, I will never change your opinion. Don't spread it on anyone else, have a serious debate with me here. I sympathize with you, I fear dying (not death, just look at it as the state you were in before birth). Make of this life (the only thing which is 99% surefire) what you can. Don't waste it by believing there is more.

BTW explain this intelligence to me that you have. I love how believers instantly resort to insult like calling Atheists dumb, I don't think you're dumb for believing thousand year old fairytales, it does however mean you're sure of an answer, the dumbest of all positions one can hold.[/QUOTE]

You're starting to lose my faith in your intelligence, now, because I never questioned yours and you're acting as if I did. In fact, in my previous post, I complimented you.

I was insulting his/hers, not yours, because of his/her inability to follow a simple question that I posed.

He's not dumb because he's an atheist. He's dumb because he's dumb. There are many great intellects that are atheist. Haha.

[QUOTE=sweggeh]Godzuki is a phakkit.[/QUOTE]

everyones a h8ter :pimp:

[QUOTE=Orlando Magic]You're starting to lose my faith in your intelligence, now, because I never questioned yours and you're acting as if I did. In fact, in my previous post, I complimented you.

I was insulting his/hers, not yours, because of his/her inability to follow a simple question that I posed.

He's not dumb because he's an atheist. He's dumb because he's dumb. There are many great intellects that are atheist. Haha.[/QUOTE]

You are right. I saw that as you saying Nowitness will never be An intellectual unbeliever. I agree with you, this do is foolish.

[QUOTE=Godzuki]everyones a h8ter :pimp:[/QUOTE]

No, seriously you are a phakkit. I have noticed. You are unable to think for yourself. You just follow the trends. Pro Choice, Pro Israel, Pro Gay Rights, Pro Atheism, pro pretty much anything, right? I have never seen you raise a point that was even slightly controversial. All you do is hate on those who actually use their minds to come up with their own conclusions, even if sheep like you attack them.

You are probably against incest right now but no doubt you will be campaigning for it in 20-30 years time. I know people like you.

[QUOTE=Orlando Magic]You're starting to lose my faith in your intelligence, now, because I never questioned yours and you're acting as if I did. In fact, in my previous post, I complimented you.

I was insulting his/hers, not yours, because of his/her inability to follow a simple question that I posed.

He's not dumb because he's an atheist. He's dumb because he's dumb. There are many great intellects that are atheist. Haha.[/QUOTE]


i don't care about your stupid philosophizing, i don't care to go that deep and retarded on this issue. i'm sure i could follow it if i cared or read your whole initial wall of txts but why when you're veering so far away from the topic and whats practical on this issue.

i don't give a fukk about your personal convictions, fear of death, or whatever lol. who gives a shit, thats your issue to deal with. this is about abortion, practical solutions, and your argument being retarded based on your own issues.

[QUOTE=sweggeh]No, seriously you are a phakkit. I have noticed. You are unable to think for yourself. You just follow the trends. Pro Choice, Pro Israel, Pro Gay Rights, Pro Atheism, pro pretty much anything, right? I have never seen you raise a point that was even slightly controversial. All you do is hate on those who actually use their minds to come up with their own conclusions, even if sheep like you attack them.

You are probably against incest right now but no doubt you will be campaigning for it in 20-30 years time. I know people like you.[/QUOTE]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

you do realize you're basically THE BIGGEST SHEEP pretending to call others sheep. you are right wing talk...you think your thoughts are original? :oldlol:

you're dumb as fukk too where you can't even explain why you think this or that, or rather shallow as a MFer...at least everything i say i can at least support with logical reasoning but you talking about only the pregnant woman should care, and can't even respond to my simple, obvious rebuttle....seriously dude have you graduated middle school?

most of my opinions here on this site with serious topics aren't written anywhere on the internet, nor are my insults i think....i'm pretty sure they're 100% original...if you find them somewhere let me know because i'd love to meet myself somewhere :cheers:

and wtf is that last sentence? rofl you're a foreign conspiracy retard too i bet. 'incest'? campaigniing 20-30 years? WTF? english MF'er...speak english :lol

you're just mad at the positions i take on my views being the opposite of yours i figure. you really should learn to at least explain why you think the way you do, and take that stance....because from what i've seen you definitely can't. seriously talk about sheep/brainwashed...the nerve of some people lol. i swear all of you pro palestinian people in that Israel thread just cry that we don't side with you but make ZERO reasonable arguments for why we should be on your side. its some really stupid shit...like guilt trip over logical argument shit.

[QUOTE=Godzuki]:roll: :roll: :roll:

you do realize you're basically THE BIGGEST SHEEP pretending to call others sheep. you are right wing talk...you think your thoughts are original? :oldlol:

you're dumb as fukk too where you can't even explain why you think this or that, or rather shallow as a MFer...at least everything i say i can at least support with logical reasoning but you talking about only the pregnant woman should care, and can't even respond to my simple, obvious rebuttle....seriously dude have you graduated middle school?

most of my opinions here on this site with serious topics aren't written anywhere on the internet, nor are my insults i think....i'm pretty sure they're 100% original...if you find them somewhere let me know because i'd love to meet myself somewhere :cheers:[/QUOTE]

[IMG]http://img.pandawhale.com/37020-didnt-read-lol-eLU8.gif[/IMG]

[QUOTE=sweggeh][IMG]http://img.pandawhale.com/37020-didnt-read-lol-eLU8.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]


well u can barely speak english so i get it takes a lot of time to get thru all of that :oldlol:

[QUOTE=Godzuki]well u can barely speak english so i get it takes a lot of time to get thru all of that :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

Yes, that makes a lot of sense. Me, the guy who lives in London, England, and got maximum grades in my English GCSE's and A Levels. I cannot speak English as well as an anime loving freak who I presume lives in USA and sounds as though he isn't a day over 13. Makes a lot of sense, thanks for the information.

[QUOTE=sweggeh]Yes, that makes a lot of sense. Me, the guy who lives in London, England, and got maximum grades in my English GCSE's and A Levels. I cannot speak English as well as an anime loving freak who I presume lives in USA and sounds as though he isn't a day over 13. Makes a lot of sense, thanks for the information.[/QUOTE]


lol @ "maximum english" :roll: :roll: :roll:

yeah the foreign kid on ISH 24/7 starting retarded threads constantly...probably doubling more than any other poster here in recent memory tbh. someone check that pls :lol

i bet all of your teeth are yellow and rotten too. amirite? :oldlol: no wonder u don't go out....

lets get it on kid :cheers:

[QUOTE=Godzuki]lol @ "maximum english" :roll: :roll: :roll:

yeah the foreign kid on ISH 24/7 starting retarded threads constantly...probably doubling more than any other poster here in recent memory tbh. someone check that pls :lol

i bet all of your teeth are yellow and rotten too. amirite? :oldlol: no wonder u don't go out....

lets get it on kid :cheers:[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I know right? Look at my post count! Its so high! I must be here posting every single day!

Yeah, every single person in England has yellow and rotted teeth, you are definitely right there. Your knowledge of England is humbling, I must bow down to your greatness :bowdown:

I realise you may have a form of down syndrome, so I think its wise to clarify that I was using something called sarcasm when I wrote my earlier paragraph. In addition I would like to assert that the city I live in, London, is greater than the city you live in, which is probably some US backwater. The fact is you know that and I know that, so lets stop insulting peoples homes before you get embarrassed further.

[QUOTE=sweggeh]Yeah, I know right? Look at my post count! Its so high! I must be here posting every single day!

Yeah, every single person in England has yellow and rotted teeth, you are definitely right there. Your knowledge of England is humbling, I must bow down to your greatness :bowdown:

I realise you may have a form of down syndrome, so I think its wise to clarify that I was using something called sarcasm when I wrote my earlier paragraph. In addition I would like to assert that the city I live in, London, is greater than the city you live in, which is probably some US backwater. The fact is you know that and I know that, so lets stop insulting peoples homes before you get embarrassed further.[/QUOTE]


i'm guessing it took you that long because you had to run spell check and double check your grammar so i wouldn't clown you for it again, right? :oldlol:

good job tho, much better than your last couple posts, noticeably so :applause:

and yeah a lot of u got some real fukked up teeth, even your PM's...also why does it seem like all it does is rain over there? its like constantly drab and overcast...i guess thats why kids like you end up all depressed and shit, never going out other than to a pub to fukk your teeth up even more :lol

and don't even get me started on the food...i think everyone knows how shitty english food is tho. i'm sure u enjoy spiced dikk tho, fukkin english fgt :cheers:

Godzuki being an a*s like always. Ignore him sweggeh. Don't take him seriously. He's an idiot. I completely agree with what you are saying. You sound like a smart guy while he's acting like an immature fakkit. Don't stoop to his level, maintain your composure, and keep speaking the truth.

[QUOTE=IamRAMBO24]Godzuki being an a*s like always.[/QUOTE]


i didn't start these beefs, feel free to check :oldlol:

jump in and white knight tho, its how this shit always turns into me vs everyone :pimp:

almost forgot you're that other foreign conspiracy retard always blaming America here too :lol

jump in fgt, instead of this passive aggressive shit...i can probably kill 2 birds with 1 stone considering you're both foreigners into soccer i think, and from england i'd guess.

[QUOTE=Godzuki]i'm guessing it took you that long because you had to run spell check and double check your grammar so i wouldn't clown you for it again, right? :oldlol:

good job tho, much better than your last couple posts, noticeably so :applause:

and yeah a lot of u got some real fukked up teeth, even your PM's...also why does it seem like all it does is rain over there? its like constantly drab and overcast...i guess thats why kids like you end up all depressed and shit, never going out other than to a pub to fukk your teeth up even more :lol

and don't even get me started on the food...i think everyone knows how shitty english food is tho. i'm sure u enjoy spiced dikk tho, fukkin english fgt :cheers:[/QUOTE]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

My nikka is so butthurt its unbelievable. Come to London and then tell me all this shit to my face. Have you even got a passport? I highly doubt it LOL

You f*ckin loser. Where are you from huh? After all that shit you been talking you better be from Paris or New York or you dun fcked up hard.

[QUOTE=Godzuki]i didn't start these beefs, feel free to check :oldlol:

jump in and white knight tho, its how this shit always turns into me vs everyone :pimp:[/QUOTE]

Your arguments are flawed. There is not one single intelligent and seminal line in any of your posts. You straw with ad hocs too much to be taken seriously in any debate, in fact, it is impossible to debate with you because of this.

[QUOTE=sweggeh]:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

My nikka is so butthurt its unbelievable. Come to London and then tell me all this shit to my face. Have you even got a passport? I highly doubt it LOL

You f*ckin loser. Where are you from huh? After all that shit you been talking you better be from Paris or New York or you dun fcked up hard.[/QUOTE]


ROFL now u want to fight in RL? :roll: :roll:

i'd knock all your teeth out kid, if they weren't already all falling out :roll: :roll: :roll:

[QUOTE=IamRAMBO24]Godzuki being an a*s like always. Ignore him sweggeh. Don't take him seriously. He's an idiot. I completely agree with what you are saying. You sound like a smart guy while he's acting like an immature fakkit. Don't stoop to his level, maintain your composure, and keep speaking the truth.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I know mate, dont worry. The dude has no friends, not even online, so I knew what I was getting myself into when I engaged him.

[QUOTE=Godzuki]ROFL now u want to fight in RL? :roll: :roll:

i'd knock all your teeth out kid, if they weren't already all falling out :roll: :roll: :roll:[/QUOTE]

Why didnt you answer where you were from? And dont bother lying cause your IP can be used to find out your real whereabouts.

[QUOTE=IamRAMBO24]Your arguments are flawed. There is not one single intelligent and seminal line in any of your posts. You straw with ad hocs too much to be taken seriously in any debate, in fact, it is impossible to debate with you because of this.[/QUOTE]


only if you could actually bring some facts to something instead of constant retard conspiracy shit without a clue of anything.

like i said people like you are as big of sheep there are in this world, and the funny thing is you think everyone else are sheep for not believing in your paranoid delusions. you're not smart at all, but you keep acting like it, and its funny to me :lol

whens the last time you've seen the dentist btw? just curious :confusedshrug:

[QUOTE=sweggeh]Why didnt you answer where you were from? And dont bother lying cause your IP can be used to find out your real whereabouts.[/QUOTE]


damn for someone in red used to trolling this forum you are getting real butthurt and serious :roll: :roll:

you will never beat me in anything foreign conspiracy retard w/ rotten teeth :cheers:

Godzuki getting exposed :oldlol:

Dude cant even name the city he lives in. Damn....

[QUOTE=sweggeh]Yeah I know mate, dont worry. The dude has no friends, not even online, so I knew what I was getting myself into when I engaged him.[/QUOTE]


stop saying mate fgt, y'all sound gay as fukk when u do that. just saying and trying to help don't shoot the messenger :cheers:

So what about abortion for rape victims?

[QUOTE=sweggeh]Godzuki getting exposed :oldlol:

Dude cant even name the city he lives in. Damn....[/QUOTE]


exposed? :biggums:

pretty sure i've jabbed you like 3-4 times at least, and all you can do is call your coach into your corner for moral support talking about 'mates' :lol

[QUOTE=Godzuki]stop saying mate fgt, y'all sound gay as fukk when u do that. just saying and trying to help don't shoot the messenger :cheers:[/QUOTE]

Hmm.. thats suprising. When I went to New York the girls were telling me they loved my British accent. I even got a few lays just cause of my accent Im sure. But Godzuki says its gay, so it must be so.

[QUOTE=Godzuki]only if you could actually bring some facts to something instead of constant retard conspiracy shit without a clue of anything.

like i said people like you are as big of sheep there are in this world, and the funny thing is you think everyone else are sheep for not believing in your paranoid delusions. you're not smart at all, but you keep acting like it, and its funny to me :lol

whens the last time you've seen the dentist btw? just curious :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]

1. The abortion issue is an ethics issue. You have proven your ignorance by discarding this aspect and strawing it to a practical issue.

2. Again, you are going after the character. I am merely attacking your fallacies. I am attacking the argument. All you are concern about is hurting the person.

Godzuki have you ever had a girlfriend? :oldlol:

Are you still a virgin?

How old are you?

[QUOTE=IamRAMBO24]1. The abortion issue is an ethics issue. You have proven your ignorance by discarding this aspect and strawing it to a practical issue.

2. Again, you are going after the character. I am merely attacking your fallacies. I am attacking the argument. All you are concern about is hurting the person.[/QUOTE]


i did explain ethics, or rather one can have ethics without religion. be more specific but i don't think you will...

no, i gave my views initially. that other person called me dumb for not responding to some point he made in a wall of txt...i kept on the practical and simple. i bit back at some point after they called me dumb again.

and this rotten teeth retard sweggeh kid actually had the nerve to say "only the pregnant girl should care about this issue and anyone who is pro choice is a idiot/dumbass/etc" whatever....then i responded about the guy paying paternity amongst other things, but rotten teeth kid didn't come back with anything but attacking me for my stances on issues calling me a sheep LOL :oldlol:

then your bitch ass came talking about 'mate' to support him and hold his hand against evil Godzuki :pimp:

what did i miss? :confusedshrug:

GODZUKI WHERE DO YOU LIVE? WHY ARE YOU AVOIDING THE QUESTION? ARE YOU ASHAMED? DONT MAKE US TRACE YOUR IP.

:oldlol:

[QUOTE=sweggeh]GODZUKI WHERE DO YOU LIVE? WHY ARE YOU AVOIDING THE QUESTION? ARE YOU ASHAMED? DONT MAKE US TRACE YOUR IP.

:oldlol:[/QUOTE]


damn someones mad ROFL :roll: :roll: :roll:

yo rotten teeth kid, do your parents have bad teeth too? you guys ever hear of toothpaste? u try that baking soda tip i provided in that other thread?

hows the breath btw? i bet thats bad too....lucky you in England where everyone else has bad teeth and breath. if you came to America bitches be walking away holdiing their nose....

you talkiing about gf's too, the nerve of someone with bad breath and rotten teeth :lol

[QUOTE=Godzuki]damn someones mad ROFL :roll: :roll: :roll:

yo rotten teeth kid, do your parents have bad teeth too? you guys ever hear of toothpaste? u try that baking soda tip i provided in that other thread?

hows the breath btw? i bet thats bad too....lucky you in England where everyone else has bad teeth and breath. if you came to America bitches be walking away holdiing their nose....

you talkiing about gf's too, the nerve of someone with bad breath and rotten teeth :lol[/QUOTE]

I was in America for a week and I would bet you anything I have slept with more American girls than you have. In fact you basically admitted it when you didnt reply when I asked if you were a virgin or if you ever had a girlfriend.

Ill give you a tip on how to really hurt someone online, because right now you clearly need help. You can call someone fat, say they have bad teeth, say they have bad breath, etc. But it isnt effective because you literally know nothing about that person and it just doesnt really hurt them cause they can tell you are reaching.

What really hurts them is when you bombard them with the truth of their own inadequacy. An example of that is me telling you that you have never had a girlfriend and that you are a virgin. Also that you are poor and live somewhere shitty. These are real truths that, when this pathetic excuse for a flame war is over, will leave you depressed, traumatized and crying over your cereal tomorrow morning.

[QUOTE=sweggeh]I was in America for a week and I would bet you anything I have slept with more American girls than you have. In fact you basically admitted it when you didnt reply when I asked if you were a virgin or if you ever had a girlfriend.

Ill give you a tip on how to really hurt someone online, because right now you clearly need help. You can call someone fat, say they have bad teeth, say they have bad breath, etc. But it isnt effective because you literally know nothing about that person and it just doesnt really hurt them cause they can tell you are reaching.

What really hurts them is when you bombard them with the truth of their own inadequacy. An example of that is me telling you that you have never had a girlfriend and that you are a virgin. Also that you are poor and live somewhere shitty. These are real truths that, when this pathetic excuse for a flame war is over, will leave you depressed, traumatized and crying over your cereal tomorrow morning.[/QUOTE]


tldr :facepalm

[QUOTE=Fawker]whether you're ready or not, stable or poor, you can not get rid of these embryos of clean slate minds.[/QUOTE]
as i just articulated via the process of 'rep,' please go f-ck yourself.