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[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents]So you truly believe CP3 and McGrady, two players who have never even played in the CONFERENCE Finals, are 2 of the 12 greatest playoff performers of all time?[/QUOTE]
TMac and CP3 were let down by their teammates. Kobe on the other hand, was carried by his teammates.
Do you seriously think TMac wouldn't win at least 5 rings if he played with prime Shaq and prime Gasol?
[QUOTE=ImKobe]2008 ECSF against Boston, explain your theory, please :roll:
2-18 10 TOV game followed by a 6-24 7 TOV game :roll: :roll: Nikka didn't shoot over 40% until the 4th game of the damn series. FOH
And you don't get what "struggling" with FG% is, shooting 4-5% below your season average against the best defensive teams is not struggling. Lebron's % dipped as well going up against the same teams Kobe faced
You still have to take into account that Kobe's overall efficiency for the Playoffs pretty much stays the same or in many cases, actually rises, despite playing more minutes and coming off a long ass regular season. I don't get the hate.
25/6/5 for 3 rings with Shaq (28/7/5 for the latter two titles with him)
30/6/6/2 for 3 straight Finals runs and 2 FMVPs with Gasol
those are elite numbers, yet people ac like he's some kind of a scrub that rode the bench and had no impact on games :kobe:[/QUOTE]
My theory?? Thats your evidence? Vs 2008 Boston?? Its a close one. But LeBron >>>> Kobe in 09 and 10 comparison...
2008 Vs Celtics:
LeBron: 26.7/6.4/7.6 on .480TS%
Kobe: 25.7/4.7/5.0 on .505TS%
2009 Vs Orlando:
LeBron: 38.5/8.3/8.0 on .591TS%
Kobe: 32.4/5.6/7.4 on .525TS%
2010 Vs Boston:
LeBron ("Quit" series) : 26.8/9.3/7.2 on .556TS%
Kobe : 28.6/8.0/3.9 on .528TS%
[QUOTE=ImKobe]
You still have to take into account that Kobe's overall efficiency for the Playoffs pretty much stays the same or in many cases, actually rises...
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&@#$. You were trolling...
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[QUOTE=Magic 32][IMG]http://s28.postimg.org/bti6f5hn1/768678.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
[b]Pau Gasol: The Real Finals MVP[/b]
[url]http://www.behindthebasket.com/btb/2010/6/19/pau-gasol-the-real-finals-mvp.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Hoopz2332][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/4e9Jgjq.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
[QUOTE=Hoopz2332][b]Pau Gasol: The Real Finals MVP[/b]
[url]http://www.behindthebasket.com/btb/2010/6/19/pau-gasol-the-real-finals-mvp.html[/url][/QUOTE]
OMG OMG OMG A subjective article.
I'm convinced.
Now I will go on youtube and enjoy Pau posting up Nate Robinson in garbage time with Kobe on the bench (Game 1 and 6).
[QUOTE=Hoopz2332][b]Pau Gasol: The Real Finals MVP[/b]
[url]http://www.behindthebasket.com/btb/2010/6/19/pau-gasol-the-real-finals-mvp.html[/url][/QUOTE]
"[I]Statistically, Gasol's input in his Lakers' title defense was significantly more important than that of Bryant.
Obviously Kobe's 29 points per look better than Gasol's 19, but it was simply the result of shooting an insane amount of shots at a low percentage. Although the Lakers shot a pitiful 41% over their seven games with Boston, Bryant actually made things worse by shooting 40% (66-163). [B]Not only that, but in a series full of close fourth-quarter battles, Bryant shot an abysmal 31% (11-36) in the games' final periods. Gasol connected on a team-high 48% from the field, hitting 43 of 90 attempts. His efficiency from the field was instrumental in stressing a tight Boston defense."[/I][/B]
Can't front on that.
[QUOTE=Hey Yo]"[I]Statistically, Gasol's input in his Lakers' title defense was significantly more important than that of Bryant.
Obviously Kobe's 29 points per look better than Gasol's 19, but it was simply the result of shooting an insane amount of shots at a low percentage. Although the Lakers shot a pitiful 41% over their seven games with Boston, Bryant actually made things worse by shooting 40% (66-163). [B]Not only that, but in a series full of close fourth-quarter battles, Bryant shot an abysmal 31% (11-36) in the games' final periods. Gasol connected on a team-high 48% from the field, hitting 43 of 90 attempts. His efficiency from the field was instrumental in stressing a tight Boston defense."[/I][/B]
Can't front on that.[/QUOTE]
Gasol was a beast and should've won the Finals MVp
[QUOTE=Hey Yo]"[I]Statistically, Gasol's input in his Lakers' title defense was significantly more important than that of Bryant.
Obviously Kobe's 29 points per look better than Gasol's 19, but it was simply the result of shooting an insane amount of shots at a low percentage. Although the Lakers shot a pitiful 41% over their seven games with Boston, Bryant actually made things worse by shooting 40% (66-163). [B]Not only that, but in a series full of close fourth-quarter battles, Bryant shot an abysmal 31% (11-36) in the games' final periods. Gasol connected on a team-high 48% from the field, hitting 43 of 90 attempts. His efficiency from the field was instrumental in stressing a tight Boston defense."[/I][/B]
Can't front on that.[/QUOTE]
Pau in the 4th during the 2010 finals.
G1: 2-3 FG (garbage points), 1 turnover, 1 missed FT
G2: 0-1 FG, 1 missed FT
G3: 1-2 FG, 1 missed FT
G4: 2-4 FG, 1 turnover
G5: 2-2 FG (garbage points in a dismal performance), 1 turnover, 1 missed FT
G6: 1-2 FG (garbage points)
G7: 1-2 FG, 4 missed FT
What a hero. :oldlol:
And if I remember correctly, there were 2 blowouts (G1 & G6), courtesy of Mr. Bryant.
Kobe shot 1-4 in a meaningless G1 4th, and then 3 desperation threes missed at the end of game 5 (messing up his 13-24 shooting up to that point).
[QUOTE]Defensively, Gasol's man-to-man defense is alright, but his ability to energetically block and redirect shots was unparalleled, blocking 18 for the series (2.6 per) and persuading multiple potential shots to not be taken.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Magic 32]Pau in the 4th during the 2010 finals.
G1: 2-3 FG (garbage points), 1 turnover, 1 missed FT
G2: 0-1 FG, 1 missed FT
G3: 1-2 FG, 1 missed FT
G4: 2-4 FG, 1 turnover
G5: 2-2 FG (garbage points in a dismal performance), 1 turnover, 1 missed FT
G6: 1-2 FG (garbage points)
G7: 1-2 FG, 4 missed FT
What a hero. :oldlol:
And if I remember correctly, there were 2 blowouts (G1 & G6), courtesy of Mr. Bryant.
Kobe shot 1-4 in a meaningless G1 4th, and then 3 desperation threes missed at the end of game 5 (messing up his 13-24 shooting up to that point).
[IMG]https://stevedwriter.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/11celtics_337-395-popup3.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Both players stats in the 4th through all 7 games
Kobe: 49 pts, 11 boards, 2 assists, 6 TO's
Gasol: 31 points, 20 boards, 4 assists, 3 TO's
[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents]Both players stats in the 4th through all 7 games
Kobe: 49 pts, 11 boards, 2 assists, 6 TO's
Gasol: 31 points, 20 boards, 4 assists, 3 TO's[/QUOTE]
[I]Considering the winner of all seven games was also the team that lead each contest in rebounds, this part of their games cannot be overlooked.
"[B]Gasol was the top rebounder by quite a substantial margin for the series, snagging 11.6 boards per, including an incredible 5.0 offensive each night[/B]. With the rest of the Lakers shooting such a low percentage from the field, Gasol's offensive rebounds and the subsequent second-chance points alone were regularly the difference between winning and losing.
He surpassed his rebound average in four of the seven games, so there were no single-game totals that pushed his average so high."[/I]
[QUOTE=Hey Yo][I]Considering the winner of all seven games was also the team that lead each contest in rebounds, this part of their games cannot be overlooked.
"[B]Gasol was the top rebounder by quite a substantial margin for the series, snagging 11.6 boards per, including an incredible 5.0 offensive each night[/B]. [/I][/QUOTE]
Kobe averaged 2.5. offensive rebounds in the 4 wins. 9.75 rebounds total in those games.
Pau averaged 4.75 offensive rebounds in the 4 wins. 13.75 rebounds total in those games.
4 more rebounds per game, 2.25 more offensive rebounds.
meh
kobe isnt a bully tho. He performs well against a worthy opponent and dont give a damn about shitty east teams. And most of his career the finals happened in the west