Trade him for Melo + Knicks pick.
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Trade him for Melo + Knicks pick.
[QUOTE=Darius]I don't think you trade a player who could end up top 20 all-time.
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top 20? Dude, come on I think he could end up top 2 that ever played for OKC. Behind Westbrook.
Presti is determined to prove the haters wrong who said he couldn't make a worse trade than the Harden deal.
All you dopes with these incredible trades for Curry, #1 Pick, Randle, etc. need to revist the Shaq, Melo, Grant Hill, and KG trades. It doesn't work like that. Whatever if/you trade KD for, you can guarantee it will be a fleecing and very underwhelming.
[QUOTE=DeuceWallaces]All you dopes with these incredible trades for Curry, #1 Pick, Randle, etc. need to revist the Shaq, Melo, Grant Hill, and KG trades. It doesn't work like that. Whatever if/you trade KD for, you can guarantee it will be a fleecing and very underwhelming.[/QUOTE]
It's nearly impossible for OKC to get equal value back, but if the alternative is getting NOTHING back, wouldn't they rather have Griffin/Okafor/whatever?
Plus it's possible for them to get a pretty good deal. Love obviously isn't Durant, but most people would say the Timberwolves got the better of that Cavs trade.
[QUOTE=Darius]I don't think you trade a player who could end up top 20 all-time.
You do everything you can to keep him and hold out hope until the end.
That said, if you are going to trade a top 3 player, at least get a young, top 10 player back... Blake Griffin is an OKC native![/QUOTE]
Could? He most definitely will. Maybe even higher. Dude is already in the Top 30-35.
[QUOTE=hawksdogsbraves]It's nearly impossible for OKC to get equal value back, but if the alternative is getting NOTHING back, wouldn't they rather have Griffin/Okafor/whatever?
Plus it's possible for them to get a pretty good deal. Love obviously isn't Durant, but most people would say the Timberwolves got the better of that Cavs trade.[/QUOTE]
I think those names are a HUGE stretch. Whatever team will have to resign him and need a guarantee that he'll agree to it before the trade.
Look at the trash exchanged in the trades I mentioned. Oh, I forgot about Love, but Timberwolves had the Cavs by the balls because LeBron was the new GM and forcing their hand. In this scenario the leverage will be flipped because everyone knows KD can just walk and there's no impetus for another team to make a trade.
"He who acts upon impulse, snares the early worm"
"He who hesitates, misses the one shot, that opportunity comes once in a life time"
Do you dopes read the article at all? It's one person's opinion on what the Thunder will do. Itls by no means anything legitimate.
the harden trade makes me think he would be worried about making the same mistake twice, so he would be even more reluctant to trade kd.
[QUOTE=longtime lurker]Do you dopes read the article at all? It's one person's opinion on what the Thunder will do. Itls by no means anything legitimate.[/QUOTE]
We all know this. Dope.
Kevin Durant & Jeremy Lamb to Chicago for Butler, Gibson, McDermott, Dunleavy and 2 firsts. Who says no?
Kanter/ Adams/ McGary
Ibaka/ Gibson/ Collison
Dunleavy/ Singler/ McDermott
Butler/ Waiters/ Morrow
Westbrook/ Augustin
[QUOTE=D-FENS]Kevin Durant & Jeremy Lamb to Chicago for Butler, Gibson, McDermott, Dunleavy and 2 firsts. Who says no?
Kanter/ Adams/ McGary
Ibaka/ Gibson/ Collison
Dunleavy/ Singler/ McDermott
Butler/ Waiters/ Morrow
Westbrook/ Augustin[/QUOTE]
They ain't trading Durant for a 1 year wonder.
Haven't read the thread but is there any realistic trade that thunder fans would be happy with so far?
I feel like no matter what any teams offer, thunder fans will laugh and say no
[QUOTE=NugzFan]Haven't read the thread but is there any realistic trade that thunder fans would be happy with so far?
I feel like no matter what any teams offer, thunder fans will laugh and say no[/QUOTE]
Anthony Davis. And that's not going to happen. So no, there isn't any realistic trade. You don't trade a talent like Durant. You go all in this year and next and if he walks, he walks.
[QUOTE=LONGTIME]Anthony Davis. And that's not going to happen. So no, there isn't any realistic trade. You don't trade a talent like Durant. You go all in this year and next and if he walks, he walks.[/QUOTE]
This. Lebron's the only other player of his caliber, and of course he's off limits. Durant has top 10 all-time potential if he has a long, healthy career.
As a Thunder fan (somewhat anyway), I'd take a title even if Durant walks. Then you have a championship and try to convince Russ to stay. They do have some nice young pieces if you can keep one superstar.
But even if Russ leaves the following year, you always have that title. Beats being a fan of most of the teams in the league.
The only other way is if Durant tells you he's leaving no matter what, but Russ is committed to stay long term if you put enough talent around him. Then you go trade Durant for the pieces that best fit with Westbrook's game and try to win a couple titles that way.
Actually though, I wonder. Would the Pelicans take Durant + Ibaka (or Kanter) for Davis?
Not that OKC should or would offer that, but I'm wondering if that's the one deal that would convince them.
If you can't keep Durant, but you can keep Westbrook and have Davis ...
[QUOTE=Marchesk]Actually though, I wonder. Would the Pelicans take Durant + Ibaka (or Kanter) for Davis?
Not that OKC should or would offer that, but I'm wondering if that's the one deal that would convince them.
If you can't keep Durant, but you can keep Westbrook and have Davis ...[/QUOTE]
I think both parties would consider. Honestly if I'm the Thunder and I get that offer, I probably do it. Davis is five years younger than Durant and probably fits better with Westbrook.
You dont trade Durant. You pray that he stays.
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^^^^^ So OKC trades away the best player in the game for 2 eternally injured players? Good one.
[QUOTE=Marchesk]This. Lebron's the only other player of his caliber, and of course he's off limits. [B]Durant has top 10 all-time potential if he has a long, healthy career.
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As a Thunder fan (somewhat anyway), I'd take a title even if Durant walks. Then you have a championship and try to convince Russ to stay. They do have some nice young pieces if you can keep one superstar.
But even if Russ leaves the following year, you always have that title. Beats being a fan of most of the teams in the league.
The only other way is if Durant tells you he's leaving no matter what, but Russ is committed to stay long term if you put enough talent around him. Then you go trade Durant for the pieces that best fit with Westbrook's game and try to win a couple titles that way.[/QUOTE]
He's already showing foot problems.
Do they not **** around with his health and shut him down this year? They'll get less return if KD keeps breaking down from now until the time comes.
Heard Media member say today that Presti is a guy who will not lose a player like KD for nothing in return. If he doesn't commit come close to the trade deadline he'll move him before he gets nothing back.
[QUOTE=Westbrook0]This just goes to show how many people read topic titles but not the actual content.
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it's that selective reading ISH posters and the youth of today are known for
It's its not a buzzfeed top 10, then it isnt worth your time.
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The trade is not happening. Two main assumptions that are flawed:
1. Westbrook is playing great, so there is no need for KD.
If it's anything, everyone in OK is excited about a healthy KD and a prime Westbrook playing together. Nobody thinks KD will take away Russ's game or vice versa. This assumption is the opposite of what OKC fans are thinking and if Durant walks, it's a loss. No amount of role players around Russ can fill his shoes.
2. Presti pulled the trade for Harden, so he'll do the same for Durant.
Unlike KD, Presti had to choose between Ibaka or Harden. He knew Harden would leave if he didn't get the max, so he pulled the trigger early since he had enough assets (Westbrook, Durant, Ibaka) to carry the team. Harden was a bench player and not even close to the centerpiece. Durant is the heart and soul of the team. He's not going to trade him. Even if Durant does not commit, Presti will probably do whatever he can to convince him to stay, even if it means losing him to FA. He means that much to the Thunder. Harden does not even come close.
Before this article, I had this thought...
Let's say the Thunder do not win the title this year (they're my pick to win, though), even though Westbrook, Ibaka and Durant are healthy.
Let's also say that Philadelphia gets all of their traded firsts this year.. we're talking Lakers pick, plus all other picks they traded for.
Now, Philly offers ALL their firsts this year... I think it would be 4 or 5, plus their own first in 2018.
Durant is only signed through 2016, Thunder are not sure he'll stay with Philly, so that 2018 pick could be legit.
Sixers new lineup:
Who cares
Who cares
Durant
Embiid
Noel
:eek: Dat length!
Now the Thunder have...
7 million in cap space this summer
4-6 first round picks, with potentially the top pick from Philly
Westbrook
Lamb
Roberson
Ibaka
Adams
Can use those picks and some of that space to rebuild a more balanced team around Westbrook.
Again, I think OKC wins the title this year, and they'd be stupid to trade Durant whether they win or not. But if one of Durant or Westbrook have to go, it needs to be Durant, as his perceived value is much higher than Westbrook's, even though his talent is only marginally higher.