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[QUOTE=warriorfan]Cliffnotes: 2/6[/QUOTE]
Cliffnotes:
Curry 1/6.
Played six seasons in the NBA, could only get his team to one Finals, and watched while a backup led that team to a ring. Hell, Lebron, on a losing team, outvoted him 4-0 in the FMVP balloting.
Lebron >>>>>>>>>>>>> Curry. Not even close my friend.
[QUOTE=LAZERUSS]Cliffnotes:
Curry 1/6.
Played six seasons in the NBA, could only get his team to one Finals, and watched while a backup led that team to a ring. Hell, Lebron, on a losing team, outvoted him 4-0 in the FMVP balloting.
Lebron >>>>>>>>>>>>> Curry. Not even close my friend.[/QUOTE]
Curry is 1/1, brought a title to the team he was drafted to with no other hall of fame teammates.
Let me know when bran does that....
[QUOTE=warriorfan]Curry is 1/1, brought a title to the team he was drafted to with no other hall of fame teammates.
Let me know when bran does that....[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Nuff Said]:roll: :roll: :roll:
It's crazy because Cleveland could've won the series had they had a capable scorer. GS didn't exactly play at their RS level. The chip was up for grabs. [/QUOTE]
This.
GS played terribly relative to what they were capable of. With Love and Irving out, and Lebron in a shooting slump, Cleveland was probably one of the weakest teams ever in the finals, and they still took 2 games from GS.
Even without another scorer, if Lebron was his normal self, it would have been a competitive series.
[QUOTE=3ball]Horseshit - in 1991, Pippen wasn't all-nba or even an all-star.
1991 was one of only 3 times that anyone WON a ring with only 1 all-star on the team.. Plenty of guys have just MADE the Finals with only 1 all-star.. :rolleyes:
You guys are really delusional - just making up stuff - any lie is fine for you guys if it makes Lebron look better.. :rolleyes:
Exactly - MJ's stats in the 1991 Finals were far better than Lebron's 2015 Finals and he did much better than just winning a couple games - MJ won the entire series against the greatest PG of all time and top 5 all-time player - MJ destroyed Magic mono-a-mono... Lebron has never destroyed a top 5 all-time player and never will.
Everything Lebron has done in his career pales in comparison to MJ's 1991 Finals and MJ's entire prime for that matter, statistically and accolade/stature-wise.
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I'm honored that someone I have on IGNORE would think so much of my contributions in a thread would post them in another thread (taking them out of context in the process).
Thanks Shutts for pointing out how low 3Ball goes.
The two All NBA player thing was that a team was WITHOUT two players who were All NBA players in the last few seasons. Not that didn't have two on the team but that was playing without two such players. It blows everything you have done all season out of the water and you have to reinvent yourself deep in the playoffs. No team has ever been able to overcome such devastation. But if this were the thread I posted that in it would make far more sense.
[QUOTE=Nuff Said]:roll: :roll: :roll:
It's crazy because Cleveland could've won the series had they had a capable scorer. GS didn't exactly play at their RS level. The chip was up for grabs. And who cares about Lebron's rebounds when he had a backcourt fully capable of grabbing those boards. He should be pushing the tempo and rushing down court while the bugs do their job. He wasn't really a floor general in this series either. The cavs had no offense. Good passer but can't really control the game and force his will.[/QUOTE]
:facepalm
[QUOTE=warriorfan]Curry is 1/1, brought a title to the team he was drafted to with no other hall of fame teammates.
Let me know when bran does that....[/QUOTE]
Andre Iguodala was Finals MVP...so hes more deserving of the credit for that championship actually
[QUOTE=LAZERUSS]I have given up in these "anti Lebron" threads.
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I have given up trying to explain to a retard he is a retard hoping he keeps his mouth shut.
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[COLOR="White"]................[/COLOR][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="3"][I]Percentage of team points scored while player was on floor[/I][/SIZE][/COLOR]
[COLOR="White"].........................[/COLOR][B]RS[/B][COLOR="White"].....[/COLOR][B]RS 4th[/B][COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] [B]PO[/B][COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR][B]PO 4th[/B][COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR][B]Finals[/B][COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] [B]Finals 4th[/B]
[I][B]JORDAN 1997[/B][/I]... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]36.0[/url]..... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4]40.1[/url]..... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs]37.7[/url]..... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4]46.3[/url]...... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4]40.9[/url]...... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4&PORound=4]50.4[/url]
[I][B]JORDAN 1998[/B][/I]... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]36.3[/url]..... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4]42.1[/url]..... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs]39.7[/url]..... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4]48.8[/url]...... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4]43.6[/url]...... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4&PORound=4]49.1[/url]
[I][B]SHAQ 2000[/B][/I]....... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/406/stats/usage/?Season=1999-00&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]35.0[/url]..... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/406/stats/usage/?Season=1999-00&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4]38.1[/url]..... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/406/stats/usage/?Season=1999-00&SeasonType=Playoffs]34.0[/url]..... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/406/stats/usage/?Season=1999-00&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4]39.4[/url]...... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/406/stats/usage/?Season=1999-00&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4]38.4[/url]...... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/406/stats/usage/?Season=1999-00&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4&Period=4]43.9[/url]
[I][B]SHAQ 2001[/B][/I]....... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/406/stats/usage/?Season=2000-01&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]33.9[/url]..... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/406/stats/usage/?Season=2000-01&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4]38.0[/url]..... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/406/stats/usage/?Season=2000-01&SeasonType=Playoffs]33.9[/url]..... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/406/stats/usage/?Season=2000-01&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4]34.0[/url]...... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/406/stats/usage/?Season=2000-01&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4]35.4[/url]...... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/406/stats/usage/?Season=2000-01&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4&Period=4]26.2[/url]
[I][B]SHAQ 2002[/B][/I]....... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/406/stats/usage/?Season=2001-02&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]33.1[/url]..... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/406/stats/usage/?Season=2001-02&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4]35.3[/url]..... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/406/stats/usage/?Season=2001-02&SeasonType=Playoffs]33.5[/url]..... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/406/stats/usage/?Season=2001-02&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4]25.7[/url]...... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/406/stats/usage/?Season=2001-02&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4]38.1[/url]...... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/406/stats/usage/?Season=2001-02&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4]28.2[/url]
[I][B]PIPPEN 1997[/B][/I].... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/937/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]24.7[/url]..... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/937/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4]22.2[/url]..... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/937/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs]24.6[/url]..... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/937/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4]25.6[/url]...... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/937/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4]25.1[/url]...... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/937/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4&Period=4]26.4[/url]
[I][B]PIPPEN 1998[/B][/I].... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/937/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]24.1[/url]..... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/937/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4]19.7[/url]..... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/937/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs]21.9[/url]..... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/937/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4]15.8[/url]...... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/937/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4]22.1[/url]...... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/937/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4&Period=4]14.7[/url]
[I][B]KOBE 2000[/B][/I]....... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/977/stats/usage/?Season=1999-00&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]27.5[/url]..... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/977/stats/usage/?Season=1999-00&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4]29.1[/url]..... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/977/stats/usage/?Season=1999-00&SeasonType=Playoffs]26.0[/url]..... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/977/stats/usage/?Season=1999-00&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4]27.0[/url]...... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/977/stats/usage/?Season=1999-00&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4]19.7[/url]...... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/977/stats/usage/?Season=1999-00&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4&Period=4]15.7[/url]
[I][B]KOBE 2001[/B][/I]....... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/977/stats/usage/?Season=2000-01&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]32.7[/url]..... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/977/stats/usage/?Season=2000-01&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4]34.4[/url]..... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/977/stats/usage/?Season=2000-01&SeasonType=Playoffs]31.4[/url]..... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/977/stats/usage/?Season=2000-01&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4]37.0[/url]...... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/977/stats/usage/?Season=2000-01&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4]25.7[/url]...... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/977/stats/usage/?Season=2000-01&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4&Period=4]23.7[/url]
[I][B]KOBE 2002[/B][/I]....... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/977/stats/usage/?Season=2001-02&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]30.9[/url]..... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/977/stats/usage/?Season=2001-02&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4]31.3[/url]..... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/977/stats/usage/?Season=2001-02&SeasonType=Playoffs]29.9[/url]..... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/977/stats/usage/?Season=2001-02&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4]34.0[/url]...... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/977/stats/usage/?Season=2001-02&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4]27.2[/url]...... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/977/stats/usage/?Season=2001-02&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4&PORound=4]32.4[/url]
[I][B]KOBE 2008[/B][/I]....... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/977/stats/usage/?Season=2007-08&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]31.8[/url]..... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/977/stats/usage/?Season=2007-08&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4]36.8[/url]..... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/977/stats/usage/?Season=2007-08&SeasonType=Playoffs]33.9[/url]..... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/977/stats/usage/?Season=2007-08&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4]41.5[/url]...... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/977/stats/usage/?Season=2007-08&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4]30.4[/url]...... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/977/stats/usage/?Season=2007-08&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4&PORound=4]32.1[/url]
[I][B]LEBRON 2009[/B][/I].... 35.0..... 39.3..... 41.5..... 42.4
[I][B]LEBRON 2010[/B][/I].... 34.6..... 44.4..... 32.6..... 40.3
[I][B]LEBRON 2011[/B][/I].... 32.0..... 32.8..... 28.1..... 30.7...... 21.4...... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/usage/?Season=2010-11&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4&PORound=4]14.8[/url]
[I][B]LEBRON 2012[/B][/I].... 34.2..... 33.8..... 34.5..... 34.9...... 30.0...... 33.3
[I][B]LEBRON 2013[/B][/I].... 32.1..... 32.1..... 30.6..... 36.0...... 29.3...... 39.1
[I][B]LEBRON 2014[/B][/I].... 33.1..... 38.2..... 35.3..... 32.1...... 39.6...... 29.5
[I][B]LEBRON 2015[/B][/I].... 30.1..... 38.9..... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs]35.0[/url]..... 42.4...... 40.0...... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4&PORound=4]44.5[/url]
[B][COLOR="Blue"]As you can see, 34-35 year old MJ scored a much higher proportion of his team's points while on the floor than everyone, including PRIME SHAQ and especially in the 4th quarter.. (Shaq got twice the reb & blk, but MJ got twice the apg & spg, so we're left with pts).
And Jordan's 1997/1998 teams were supposed to be more "stacked" (:rolleyes:) than the first 3-peat teams from his prime - so just imagine if we had the stats from MJ's prime - he probably scored 60-70% of his team's points while on the floor.[/color][/b]
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[QUOTE=3ball]Lebron is 2/6 in the Finals - he beat the best Western Conference team only twice, so if he was in the Western Conference, he would've made only 2 Finals in his entire career.
That's why merely MAKING the Finals is not an accomplishment that all-time greats ever get credit for - everyone knows that the Finals loser would never have made the Finals in the other conference.. :confusedshrug:
This idea that merely making the Finals is an accomplishment that compares to winning the Finals is a new idea purported by new fans only... 15 years from now, those same new fans will understand how dumb they are when the new fans 15 years from now start saying that making the conference finals is equal to making the Finals.. :rolleyes:
If Lebron shot 51% on his repeated clearouts in the Finals instead of 39.8%, Cleveland could've easily won the series with Lebron averaging less rebounds and assists.. :confusedshrug:
That's why I always laugh when people use the argument "[I]Lebron leads his team in pts, rebs, assists[/I]...".. They fail to realize that MJ's 8-point and 6-point scoring advantage in the Finals and playoffs respectively (plus greater clutch), are worth much more than a couple extra defensive rebounds..
So who cares whether Lebron leads his team in pts, rebs, and assists - MJ leads his team in pts and assists, and he's SO far ahead of Lebron scoring-wise and clutch, it more than offsets his 2-rebound deficit.. It's pretty intuitive and basic common knowledge that 6-8 more ppg is worth more than a couple defensive rebounds, particularly for the #1 option.[/QUOTE]
You should just make a Wikipedia page and post the link. Save yourself a bunch of cutting and pasting all your repetitive stuff.
[QUOTE=PistonsFan#21]Andre Iguodala was Finals MVP...so hes more deserving of the credit for that championship actually[/QUOTE]
:biggums:
[QUOTE=LAZERUSS]Cliffnotes:
Curry 1/6.
Played six seasons in the NBA, could only get his team to one Finals, and watched while a backup led that team to a ring. Hell, Lebron, on a losing team, outvoted him 4-0 in the FMVP balloting.
Lebron >>>>>>>>>>>>> Curry. Not even close my friend.[/QUOTE]
:roll:
absolute ether.
[QUOTE=PistonsFan#21]Andre Iguodala was Finals MVP...so hes more deserving of the credit for that championship actually[/QUOTE]
:eek: warriors fan getting that bukkake c[COLOR="Black"]u[/COLOR]m-dumpster treatment
[QUOTE=red1]:eek: warriors fan getting that bukkake c[COLOR="Black"]u[/COLOR]m-dumpster treatment[/QUOTE]
Are you mad?
[QUOTE=warriorfan]Are you mad?[/QUOTE]
just amused. admit it, those posts were good
[QUOTE=red1]just amused. admit it, those posts were good[/QUOTE]
Ok, you seemed upset. This isn't the first time as well. If you need to talk or something that's cool.
Pm me.
[QUOTE=warriorfan]Ok, you seemed upset. This isn't the first time as well. If you need to talk or something that's cool.
Pm me.[/QUOTE]
Same to you my friend