The Last of Us is the best game ever made

Maybe you thought I was attacking you personally, but really when 90% of your list is comprised of games from the last 5 years and the rest not long before that, how can you possibly call it Greatest games of All Time with a straight face?

The only logical conclusion I can come up with is that your point of reference is that of someone who wasn't around for the golden era of console games.

I mean, a link to the past was a work of art. So much so, that the shitty semi remake of it on DS is one of the systems best seller in modern times.

Chrono Trigger has an incredible battle system, amazing music, sprites that still look good today, great storyline and characters. That's a work of art. Growing up, it was neck and neck with FF6 when it came to favorite RPGs, but in hindsight, Chrono Trigger was the one to stand the test of time, no pun intended.

The civilization series. I mean, what more can be said? This franchise is the greatest and longest lasting series in strategy. Matter of fact, how can you not have one strategy game on there? No starcraft, no age of empires, no red alert. I know it's hard to play them with an Xbox controller but to exlude them entirely?

Mario 64. When that game came out, people were completely floored. Best launch game of all time, what a jump from the SNES to a fully 3d game with different worlds, the first open world game of all time really. Yeah, it's hard to look at those huge polygons now, but if you want to talk about influential and game changing, look no further.

I could go on and on, and sit and debate for days but truth is there will never be a definite top 10 list. However, to claim that the top games of all time are all from this era is a complete farce. So I assumed you were 15-18, not to look down upon you, but because the alternative would mean that you're a fkin idiot.

[QUOTE=24-Inch_Chrome]The thread title states that Last of Us is the best game ever made, not your favourite. The list itself is titled "Top 10 GOAT." No one can really take issue with someone's favourite games as that is purely subjective, but calling a game like Last of Us the GOAT game is a statement that will create (and honestly deserves) criticism.

I don't think I'd call any of those games horrible, but there's not a game on that list that should make it onto a top 10 GOAT list. No Nintendo (Zelda, Mario, Metroid)? No true PC games (DOOM, Half-Life, UT, Diablo, etc.)? Lack of the best Playstation titles (Original MGS, FFVII, Shadow of the Colossus, etc.)?

Omitting these games/franchises, all of which either are or contain top 10 GOAT candidates really takes away from your list's credibility. Hence my comparison to a basketball list that features LeBron or Kobe at #1.[/QUOTE]

You ****ing moron, just shut up already.

You just said TLOU has no shot at being the best ever.
According to who? YOU?! There are plenty of people that would disagree with your opinion.

You just exposed yourself with this post anyways. You ****ing named me games like Doom Half-Life, SOTC; yet these games were actually released during the internet days and NONE of them were rated higher than TLOU.

So let me get this straight you shit for brains; TLOU isn't one of the best because you have nostalgia issues and think ****ing Zelda or Mario on SNES are better games?

Sometimes I wish you could put your hand through a screen a slap the stupid out of people.

[QUOTE=24-Inch_Chrome]Then don't title the list "Top 10 GOAT." :confusedshrug:

Not really. The all-time great games are damn near universally recognized as such. The only exceptions come from those who don't know what they're talking about because they haven't experienced nearly enough.[/QUOTE]

Dipshit, it's HIS top 10 GOAT.
There are no definite answer. Even if you are a nerd and have played all the games in the world, doesn't give you a head-up on someone who hasn't. Games are highly subjective and it depends heavily on preference.

For example, someone mentioned pokemon.
For me, :facepalm , but I won't argue because I know it's a highly regarded game in the gaming world and even though I don't like it (or see the appeal in it), I can respect their opinion.

The same goes for TLOU, just because YOUR dumbass doesn't think it's the best game or one of the best, doesn't mean it isn't.

The gaming world strongly disagrees. It has won GOTY by the largest margin of victory in history. It has received a ton of praise and has incredibly great reviews.

Only ONE game in gaming history received more PERFECT reviews than TLOU. And that was GTA IV, and that was largely because it was the first GTA game released on the newer console, so people were drooling over with.

[QUOTE=macmac]Maybe you thought I was attacking you personally, but really when 90% of your list is comprised of games from the last 5 years and the rest not long before that, how can you possibly call it Greatest games of All Time with a straight face?

The only logical conclusion I can come up with is that your point of reference is that of someone who wasn't around for the golden era of console games.

I mean, a link to the past was a work of art. So much so, that the shitty semi remake of it on DS is one of the systems best seller in modern times.

Chrono Trigger has an incredible battle system, amazing music, sprites that still look good today, great storyline and characters. That's a work of art. Growing up, it was neck and neck with FF6 when it came to favorite RPGs, but in hindsight, Chrono Trigger was the one to stand the test of time, no pun intended.

The civilization series. I mean, what more can be said? This franchise is the greatest and longest lasting series in strategy. Matter of fact, how can you not have one strategy game on there? No starcraft, no age of empires, no red alert. I know it's hard to play them with an Xbox controller but to exlude them entirely?

Mario 64. When that game came out, people were completely floored. Best launch game of all time, what a jump from the SNES to a fully 3d game with different worlds, the first open world game of all time really. Yeah, it's hard to look at those huge polygons now, but if you want to talk about influential and game changing, look no further.

I could go on and on, and sit and debate for days but truth is there will never be a definite top 10 list. However, to claim that the top games of all time are all from this era is a complete farce. So I assumed you were 15-18, not to look down upon you, but because the alternative would mean that you're a fkin idiot.[/QUOTE]

Yawn.
Those games you mentioned were spectacular for their age and time.
The Last Of Us is relatively speaking JUST as great as any of those games.

Yes I've played A Link to the Past; if I was to put TLOU in my PS3/4 console and Zelda, I'd far likely end up playing TLOU. It's just a far better experience. I know you guys have you lame ass nostalgia and you probably had a lot of memories with those old ass games (as did I, I loved my Mario All-Stars, Zelda, Donkey Kong etc.) and relatively speaking, they were fantastic.

I'll use simple terms though.
We aren't talking about Kyrie Irving here when it comes to GOAT basketball players, we are talking about LeBron James. Games like TLOU or Uncharted 2 or RDR or handful of others, are comparable to LeBron James.

People here talking about old school games are acting like TLOU has no place to be compared to chrono trigger, half life, zelda or BG 2.

Absolutely ridiculous statement to make. I've PLAYED all of them.
And I'm telling you; TLOU is easily on that tier. It just does a far better job at engaging you in its story because its just a far more advanced game.

Just tired of idiots acting like praising nostalgia means you somehow have a better knowledge base. No, you just have difference of preference, so sit you condescending asses down.

PS - You guys dismissing a game like TLOU is no different than me dismissing a game like Ocarina of Time, or GoldenEye or Baldur Gate's or Metroid Prime.

Fact is, all those games are classics. TLOU is just a newer classic.

[QUOTE=West-Side]Dipshit, it's HIS top 10 GOAT.
There are no definite answer. Even if you are a nerd and have played all the games in the world, doesn't give you a head-up on someone who hasn't. Games are highly subjective and it depends heavily on preference.

For example, someone mentioned pokemon.
For me, :facepalm , but I won't argue because I know it's a highly regarded game in the gaming world and even though I don't like it (or see the appeal in it), I can respect their opinion.

The same goes for TLOU, just because YOUR dumbass doesn't think it's the best game or one of the best, doesn't mean it isn't.

The gaming world strongly disagrees. It has won GOTY by the largest margin of victory in history. It has received a ton of praise and has incredibly great reviews.

Only ONE game in gaming history received more PERFECT reviews than TLOU. And that was GTA IV, and that was largely because it was the first GTA game released on the newer console, so people were drooling over with.[/QUOTE]


I'm pretty sure Ocarina of Time was better rated than both those games

It is way too hard to compare games across eras

The truth of the matter is games are constantly evolving and getting better

We need to judge games in their retrospective eras, but ALSO account for competition during that era. Today the level of scrutiny and attention to detail just cannot be compared to even 7 years ago, let alone 15.

[QUOTE=West-Side]Yawn.
Those games you mentioned were spectacular for their age and time.
The Last Of Us is relatively speaking JUST as great as any of those games.

Yes I've played A Link to the Past; if I was to put TLOU in my PS3/4 console and Zelda, I'd far likely end up playing TLOU. It's just a far better experience. I know you guys have you lame ass nostalgia and you probably had a lot of memories with those old ass games (as did I, I loved my Mario All-Stars, Zelda, Donkey Kong etc.) and relatively speaking, they were fantastic.

I'll use simple terms though.
We aren't talking about Kyrie Irving here when it comes to GOAT basketball players, we are talking about LeBron James. Games like TLOU or Uncharted 2 or RDR or handful of others, are comparable to LeBron James.

People here talking about old school games are acting like TLOU has no place to be compared to chrono trigger, half life, zelda or BG 2.

Absolutely ridiculous statement to make. I've PLAYED all of them.
And I'm telling you; TLOU is easily on that tier. It just does a far better job at engaging you in its story because its just a far more advanced game.

Just tired of idiots acting like praising nostalgia means you somehow have a better knowledge base. No, you just have difference of preference, so sit you condescending asses down.

PS - You guys dismissing a game like TLOU is no different than me dismissing a game like Ocarina of Time, or GoldenEye or Baldur Gate's or Metroid Prime.

Fact is, all those games are classics. TLOU is just a newer classic.[/QUOTE]

Where did I dismiss TLOU? I just said a list without any classics cannot be a GOAT list. I've very much enjoyed TLOU, whether I would put it in my top 10 is debatable, but the interaction between characters, the voice acting and storytelling are all top notch and arguably revolutionary.

[QUOTE=macmac]I'm pretty sure Ocarina of Time was better rated than both those games[/QUOTE]

Well, it also only received 22 reviews.
TLOU received four times as many reviews.

So kinda hard to compare which game was rated higher.
I remember Arkham City maintained a 97 overall rating after 40 reviews, and ended up finishing with like 94 after 80 reviews.

[QUOTE=macmac]Where did I dismiss TLOU? I just said a list without any classics cannot be a GOAT list. I've very much enjoyed TLOU, whether I would put it in my top 10 is debatable, but the interaction between characters, the voice acting and storytelling are all top notch and arguably revolutionary.[/QUOTE]

Not you bro, I mean that other dude.
I don't even care if you don't have TLOU in your top 10. I can respect anyone's opinion who has 10 games who are on a similar tier.

Like if you mentioned 10 great games that were made before 2006 (like Metroid or Zelda etc.) I'd have no problem with your list, even if it doesn't include TLOU. I do have a problem with people who don't do that though.

Who have played a lot of older games and think when people act like RDR and TLOU are two of the best five games they've ever played, they deserve criticism. :facepalm

Today's era = insane scrutiny

Halo 5 is currently rated lower than Halo 4 on metacritic....

That just defies all logic

[QUOTE=GIF REACTION]Today's era = insane scrutiny

Halo 5 is currently rated lower than Halo 4 on metacritic....

That just defies all logic[/QUOTE]


:oldlol:

[QUOTE]Halo 5: Guardians features an underwhelming, confusing and surprisingly banal campaign that's not actively bad, but equally not quite good enough to warrant a purchase on its own.[/QUOTE]

Fail.
Miserably.
86. :oldlol:

I totally forgot this crap is coming out this week, haha.

[QUOTE=GIF REACTION]Today's era = insane scrutiny

Halo 5 is currently rated lower than Halo 4 on metacritic....

That just defies all logic[/QUOTE]

Do you ever leave that agenda in your school bag or do you just walking around with your eyes glued to your agenda schedule like 10am: must praise Halo. 11am: Kings are making the playoffs! 12pm: peanut butter jelly sandwhiches mom packed in my Master Chief lunch box. 1pm: nap time in my Sac Kings jammies 2pm: scan the net for Halo 5 reviews...

You're more dull than infomercials

The funniest thing is the reviews have come out before the online has launched

That's like only judging half of the game

So real rating + FPS bias = 93-95

[QUOTE=macmac]Do you ever leave that agenda in your school bag or do you just walking around with your eyes glued to your agenda schedule like 10am: must praise Halo. 11am: Kings are making the playoffs! 12pm: peanut butter jelly sandwhiches mom packed in my Master Chief lunch box. 1pm: nap time in my Sac Kings jammies 2pm: scan the net for Halo 5 reviews...

You're more dull than infomercials[/QUOTE]
Coming from the most interesting man in the world...

Go comb your hair or check your phone or something...

[QUOTE=GIF REACTION]Coming from the most interesting man in the world...

Go comb your hair or check your phone or something...[/QUOTE]



.....riight

Better yet

throw up an instagram to show everyone how interesting you are!

Sepia filter!

Joke.

[QUOTE=GIF REACTION]Better yet

throw up an instagram to show everyone how interesting you are!

Sepia filter!

Joke.[/QUOTE]

Ha. I don't use Instagram, but sepia does match my skin tone. Glad I got you talking about something else than master Chief playing small forward for the Kings tho. I know its scary tackling new content that you haven't developed a hard stance on, but eventually you'll have enough topics at your disposal to be able to hold normal conversations, wouldn't that be fun?

Don't take this website too personal bud

You'll find not many do

Make sure to take some photos next time your on holiday!

[QUOTE=GIF REACTION]Better yet

throw up an instagram to show everyone how interesting you are!

Sepia filter!

Joke.[/QUOTE]

Are you jealous that the man makes a living playing poker, does real estate, drives a Bentley, and probably sleeps with more girls over a weekend at Vegas than you will in your entire life?

Or are you jealous that Halo 5 won't even have a higher rating than Drake's Fortune?

:roll: :rockon:

[QUOTE=outbreak]Just finished playing through uncharted 2 again, still not sure why ps fanboys didn't choose to pump up that game instead of tlou. It does nearly everything better than tlou.[/QUOTE]
I have to agree with you here. UC2 is amazing.

[QUOTE=West-Side]You ****ing moron, just shut up already.

You just said TLOU has no shot at being the best ever.
According to who? YOU?! There are plenty of people that would disagree with your opinion.

You just exposed yourself with this post anyways. You ****ing named me games like Doom Half-Life, SOTC; yet these games were actually released during the internet days and NONE of them were rated higher than TLOU.

So let me get this straight you shit for brains; TLOU isn't one of the best because you have nostalgia issues and think ****ing Zelda or Mario on SNES are better games?

Sometimes I wish you could put your hand through a screen a slap the stupid out of people.[/QUOTE]

You seem really angry. :oldlol:

It looks as though your entire argument (as well as posts earlier ITT) is based on Metacritic rankings, that's all you've got? FOH. You're acting like Metacritic is some infallible deity and that it hasn't received a ton of criticism for the way that its ranking system handles video games.

What's more, Last of Us is ranked 49th on Metacritic's all-time list, so I have no ****ing idea why you keep going back to that site. :roll:

Every game that I named still holds up as a masterpiece today. They're not great games because they're old, they're great games because they were great and continue to be great.

[QUOTE=24-Inch_Chrome]My issue isn't just that you're writing off games that you've never played, it's that you keep going back and linking greatness to preference. There are games that I ****ing hated that I can still acknowledge as great games for what they brought to the table, even if it wasn't my cup of tea. Acknowledging greatness doesn't have to fit perfectly in line with whatever your preferences are.

It's still GTA with a new setting. Hardly groundbreaking.[/QUOTE]
Great post.

[QUOTE=24-Inch_Chrome]You seem really angry. :oldlol:

It looks as though your entire argument (as well as posts earlier ITT) is based on Metacritic rankings, that's all you've got? FOH. You're acting like Metacritic is some infallible deity and that it hasn't received a ton of criticism for the way that its ranking system handles video games.

What's more, Last of Us is ranked 49th on Metacritic's all-time list, so I have no ****ing idea why you keep going back to that site. :roll:

Every game that I named still holds up as a masterpiece today. They're not great games because they're old, they're great games because they were great and continue to be great.[/QUOTE]

So why don't you post some substance for a change.
Here's an idea; write a thoughtful response to why.

1) The Last Of Us is not one of the greatest games ever developed.
2) Why these other "master pieces" actually are.

TLOU is ranked 49th, but there are only like 18 games or so with a score higher than 95. Furthermore, out of those 49 titles, TLOU has one of the highest user ratings as well.

It's also one of the most reviewed games out of the top 100.
So it's harder for it to maintain a high score.

Ocarina of Time - 22 reviews
Tony Hawk - 19 reviews
GTA - 64 reviews
SoulCalibur - 24 reviews

etc.

TLOU has 98 reviews.
It has a 9.1 user rating.
Only 10 games above it has a higher user rating.

Like I said before, look at the whole picture.
To give you an example of what I mean by more reviews = lower score.

Zelda - 99 on meta (22 reviews)
Zelda - 97.5% (28 reviews) on GR

Uncharted 2 - 96 on meta (106 reviews)
Uncharted 2 - 96.43% (82 reviews) on GR

Yet games like U2 & TLOU aren't masterpieces?
Just shut up bud.

I'd say 96.43% on 82 reviews is a hell of a lot more impressive than 97.5% on 28 reviews.

Considering U2 received well over 35+ perfect reviews.
I don't know which game is better (U2 or TLOU) my point is, they are both masterpieces and have received a lot of recognition from the gaming industry.

PS - My opinion isn't based on METACRITIC. I'm using the reviews as backup to make a point. I can write an essay on why I think TLOU is a master piece but I feel like I'll be wasting my time. This is all opinion and preference.
However, me showing you how much PRAISE the game (TLOU) has received from the gaming world only solidifies my opinion of it being an epic game.

It's arguably the best game of the PS3 generation, yet we can't call it a classic?

Phuck outta here chump.

you're trolling.

this is just unreal.

[QUOTE=West-Side]:oldlol:



Fail.
Miserably.
86. :oldlol:

I totally forgot this crap is coming out this week, haha.[/QUOTE]
*picks out the most negative review he can find*

holy shit, westsides love for TLOU is kenneth/kobe stan status.

[QUOTE=Shade8780]*picks out the most negative review he can find*[/QUOTE]

:oldlol: It's the average scores of all the reviews.
You still fail to comprehend that simple concept.

im talking about the quote, not the fvcking metacritic score.

You act like Metacritic is the end all, be all of gaming reviews. You put way too much trust into it, in fact, you let it shape your own opinion. It's unbelievable.

Metacritic can never take into account all of the little variations between scoring systems that every outlet has. A 60% score on one site might mean an "average" game, but on another, 60% is an "okay" game. Then with the problem of trying to convert a "B" rank to a 100-point scale, you can start to see why Metacritic could be called "inaccurate".

As well, it uses a weighed average, which is based on the popularity of a site, which makes no sense; A 2/5 with the proper logical backing isn't any less valid on a small site vs a big one. That's dumb.

The user score altogether is just a mess. You should put zero trust in that.

Metacritic is good for getting a very rough idea of a game's quality. If it's somewhere in the 70-100 range, it's worth checking out yourself. But comparing games on their exact score is so wrong and using it to prove that one game is better than another is utterly ridiculous.

[QUOTE=Shade8780]You act like Metacritic is the end all, be all of gaming reviews. You put way too much trust into it, in fact, you let it shape your own opinion. It's unbelievable.

Metacritic can never take into account all of the little variations between scoring systems that every outlet has. A 60% score on one site might mean an "average" game, but on another, 60% is an "okay" game. Then with the problem of trying to convert a "B" rank to a 100-point scale, you can start to see why Metacritic could be called "inaccurate".

As well, it uses a weighed average, which is based on the popularity of a site, which makes no sense; A 2/5 with the proper logical backing isn't any less valid on a small site vs a big one. That's dumb.

The user score altogether is just a mess. You should put zero trust in that.

Metacritic is good for getting a very rough idea of a game's quality. If it's somewhere in the 70-100 range, it's worth checking out yourself. But comparing games on their exact score is so wrong and using it to prove that one game is better than another is utterly ridiculous.[/QUOTE]

I only use aggregates reviews to prove my point.
I have played games that were rated 75 (Ghost Warrior) and absolutely loved it. I felt like Max Payne 3 should have gotten a much higher score as well. I thought the mechanics of that game were superb and the storyline was very deep and dark. One of my favorite games of the last 10 years.

However, I do like to use metacritic scores when a great game is being trashed. I find it funny how people claim TLOU is overrated yet so many of my friends didn't even know its existence until I told them about it. Subsequently, all of them really loved it.

PS - I value user ratings a lot more because its a much bigger sample size.
I'd say user ratings are pretty accurate. I only ignore them with big titles like Call of Duty, Halo, Gears, Assassin Creed etc. because too many fan boys log on just to give those games a bad rating because they love its competition.

[QUOTE=Shade8780]im talking about the quote, not the fvcking metacritic score.[/QUOTE]

My bad homie, I was just trolling GIF a little. :oldlol:

[QUOTE=West-Side]I only use aggregates reviews to prove my point.
I have played games that were rated 75 (Ghost Warrior) and absolutely loved it. I felt like Max Payne 3 should have gotten a much higher score as well. I thought the mechanics of that game were superb and the storyline was very deep and dark. One of my favorite games of the last 10 years.

[B]However, I do like to use metacritic scores when a great game is being trashed.[/b] I find it funny how people claim TLOU is overrated yet so many of my friends didn't even know its existence until I told them about it. Subsequently, all of them really loved it.

PS - I value user ratings a lot more because its a much bigger sample size.
I'd say user ratings are pretty accurate. I only ignore them with big titles like Call of Duty, Halo, Gears, Assassin Creed etc. because too many fan boys log on just to give those games a bad rating because they love its competition.[/QUOTE]
Do you know what overrated means?

Definition: [I]have a higher opinion of (someone or something) than is deserved[/I]

We wouldn't be calling it overrated if it didn't have a high score in the first place!

Opinions change over time anyway. Halo 4 has fvcking 9.8/10 on IGN, yet Halo fans hate that game. MGS 4 has 10/10 and that's the worst game in the series. That's because people start to see the flaws after the 'honeymoon' phase ends, after all the reviews and hype calms down, as well as not wanting to be disappointed. TLoU suffers from that exact problem. I know that because I didn't pay much attention to the game until my sister told me to play it a year after release, therefore I didn't experience all the "omg this game is going to be the best ever thank you naughty dog" pre-release, and I subsequently thought it wasn't as good as it was hyped up to be.

[QUOTE=Shade8780]Do you know what overrated means?

Definition: [I]have a higher opinion of (someone or something) than is deserved[/I]

We wouldn't be calling it overrated if it didn't have a high score in the first place!

Opinions change over time anyway. Halo 4 has fvcking 9.8/10 on IGN, yet Halo fans hate that game. MGS 4 has 10/10 and that's the worst game in the series. That's because people start to see the flaws after the 'honeymoon' phase ends, after all the reviews and hype calms down, as well as not wanting to be disappointed. TLoU suffers from that exact problem. I know that because I didn't pay much attention to the game until my sister told me to play it a year after release, therefore I didn't experience all the "omg this game is going to be the best ever thank you naughty dog" pre-release, and I subsequently thought it wasn't as good as it was hyped up to be.[/QUOTE]

So you think TLOU scoring a 95 aggregate is overrated?
IGN rated Uncharted 3 - 100, yet rated Uncharted 2 - 95.
That's why I like to use aggregate scores because it considers all the sources and calculates the average for each game.

:oldlol: You're so full of shit, that's why I will just ignore you from now on. I gave my game to friends who have never even heard of TLOU and absolutely loved it.

TLOU was released in 2013, over a year later the remastered edition was released and everyone still love it. Millions of copies were sold. What hype are you talking about? Just stick to your opinion and quit acting like everyone shares your sentiments.

[QUOTE=Shade8780]Do you know what overrated means?

Definition: [I]have a higher opinion of (someone or something) than is deserved[/I]

We wouldn't be calling it overrated if it didn't have a high score in the first place!

Opinions change over time anyway. Halo 4 has fvcking 9.8/10 on IGN, yet Halo fans hate that game. MGS 4 has 10/10 and that's the worst game in the series. That's because people start to see the flaws after the 'honeymoon' phase ends, after all the reviews and hype calms down, as well as not wanting to be disappointed. TLoU suffers from that exact problem. I know that because I didn't pay much attention to the game until my sister told me to play it a year after release, therefore I didn't experience all the "omg this game is going to be the best ever thank you naughty dog" pre-release, and I subsequently thought it wasn't as good as it was hyped up to be.[/QUOTE]

There wasn't a honeymoon period with TLOU. Pretty much everyone that loved the game when it first came still love it...TLOU Remastered got a great reaction (came out a year after the PS3 version).

There's a vocal minority that like to shit on it and call it overrated, but reception toward the game has not changed.

[QUOTE=West-Side]
TLOU was released in 2013, over a year later the remastered edition was released and everyone still love it. Millions of copies were sold.[/QUOTE]

Yeah TLOU Remastered was probably the biggest game of 2014 :oldlol:

The Last of Us (2013) - 5.62 million
The Last of Us Remastered (2014) - 3.27 million

Yeah so much for your "honeymoon" theory.
It only sold more copies than games like Battlefield 4, Ghosts, Arkham Knight, Black Son, Infamous and Witcher 3.

Yet it was also a "remastered" edition.

[QUOTE=Heavincent]Yeah TLOU Remastered was probably the biggest game of 2014 :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
The reason it was a big release for ps4 was because the ps4 had zero good games before that. I had one and it was dismal if you played multi plats on another platform.

You guys do realise the entire gaming industry is right now trying to get people to not use metacritic when looking at games don't you? Its a pretty hot issue over the last year or so in the gaming mediia6 about how flawed the system is.

[QUOTE=West-Side]The Last of Us (2013) - 5.62 million
The Last of Us Remastered (2014) - 3.27 million

Yeah so much for your "honeymoon" theory.
It only sold more copies than games like Battlefield 4, Ghosts, Arkham Knight, Black Son, Infamous and Witcher 3.

Yet it was also a "remastered" edition.[/QUOTE]
The witcher 3 sold 6 million in 6 months. Arkham knight had 5 million in a few months too. Your comparing games that are still selling well to a game that has been out longer and was and still is in alot of console bundles. Tlou was a good game but come on stop being a **** please

[QUOTE=outbreak]The reason it was a big release for ps4 was because the ps4 had zero good games before that. I had one and it was dismal if you played multi plats on another platform.

You guys do realise the entire gaming industry is right now trying to get people to not use metacritic when looking at games don't you? Its a pretty hot issue over the last year or so in the gaming mediia6 about how flawed the system is.[/QUOTE]
He's a fvcking retard. Even after explaining how shit and broken it is, he goes back to Metacritic scores. It's like speaking to a brick fvcking wall. There's really no point in wasting your time arguing with him.

[QUOTE=Heavincent]Yeah TLOU Remastered was probably the biggest game of 2014 :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Beating out all-time greats like Destiny and Watch Dogs?

Seriously though, Shadow of Mordor and Dragon Age are the best games of 2014.