2 Days Have Passed and I STILL Can't Get Over the Fact That Durant Can't Bench 185

[QUOTE=GOBB]World class athlete? :roll: Please explain this one. He's a f*cking basketball player.


And this is why i dont bone big bytches. I cant handle all that weight. But you and LOKI can...so have alllllllll the BBW's you want. :lol:[/QUOTE]

I'm with VC... it's only 4:32 pm on the east coast, but this is already the post of the day.


Anyway, Durant will put on muscle. This is being made into a bigger issue than it needs to be.

[QUOTE=Da KO King]Sorry but I think that's BS.

Dude was medically cleared to play ball in Nov. and has had full range of motion on his wrist since Jan. yet we should ignore his not doing the bench cause he "looks" like he could do it???

Seems a little unfair to criticize Durant for his bench performance and totally ignore Oden's not taking part.[/QUOTE]
If that is actually true, then it proves that Oden is significantly smarter than Durant.

So, Mountrose Christian doesn't do weight training, Texas didn't force Durant to do weight training... but Durant should have naturally been able to bench 185 lbs cause he's a [B]high level basketball player?!?[/B]

Why is the number of people that find this ridiculous so small?

Why are people so ****ing in love with the bench press anyway? I'll never understand it, there are a ton of ways to show strength and the bench press seems to be what people love to be enamored with. Weightroom strength doesn't always make you strong on the field or the court.

And no, 185 isn't the average and you couldn't just find college guys walking around that could do it no problem, a lot of them probably couldn't put up 155.

And Loki, is either lying or a freak. That's not normal for any beginner, nevermind a 16-17 year old weighing 180.

[QUOTE=ppierce34]Why are people so ****ing in love with the bench press anyway? I'll never understand it, there are a ton of ways to show strength and the bench press seems to be what people love to be enamored with. Weightroom strength doesn't always make you strong on the field or the court.

And no, 185 isn't the average and you couldn't just find college guys walking around that could do it no problem, a lot of them probably couldn't put up 155.

[B]And Loki, is either lying or a freak.[/B] That's not normal for any beginner, nevermind a 16-17 year old weighing 180.[/QUOTE]

LOKI as a toddler...

[IMG]http://img.shopping.com/cctool/PrdImg/images/pr/177X150/00/02/1c/cc/58/35441752.JPG[/IMG]-"Joe dan is da bess. hee heeheee *giggle*"

LOKI sounds rationale most of the time but he spits out some major bs every now and then to question him.

[QUOTE=Day La Ghetto]LOKI sounds rationale most of the time but he spits out some major bs every now and then to question him.[/QUOTE]

The mofo said [B]2-3 sets of 10 with 185[/B]. :roll:

But ehhhh maybe he is telling the truth. His truth is abnormal. Definately not a mesuring stick with the avg mofo at that age or Durants for that matter to throw 185 off thier chest not ever lifting a single weight [I](assuming Durant hasnt, wouldnbt be shocked if he didnt touch weights much).[/I]

Only person I know who can do that is...

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Shouldn't this kind of make Durant even more impressive?
Dude dominated college basketball like a very few players EVER and yet he is this "weak". Think about it.

[QUOTE=OneWay]Shouldn't this kind of make Durant even more impressive?
Dude dominated college basketball like a very few players EVER and yet he is this "weak". Think about it.[/QUOTE]

Dominated to a second round exit as well as not leading his team to a reg. or post season conference title?

[QUOTE=GOBB]The mofo said [B]2-3 sets of 10 with 185[/B]. :roll:

But ehhhh maybe he is telling the truth. His truth is abnormal. Definately not a mesuring stick with the avg mofo at that age or Durants for that matter to throw 185 off thier chest not ever lifting a single weight [I](assuming Durant hasnt, wouldnbt be shocked if he didnt touch weights much).[/I]

Only person I know who can do that is...

[IMG]http://www.popstarsplus.com/images/ChristopherReevePicture.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.hollywoodstandups.com/images/popeye.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.gavinshearer.com/photos/weblog/2005_08_09_mightymouse.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Lou-Ferrigno---The-Incredible-Hulk-Photograph-C10052499.jpeg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Gotta admit. This is right up there with the Quad Double Season.

[QUOTE=Loki]I remember a couple of years ago there was a big to-do over the bench press results for draftees, since many of them, especially the taller players, weren't able to do more than a few reps at 180 or 200 pounds (I forget what it was). [B]They say arm length is a big factor[/B].[/QUOTE] It is a big factor. Let the kid slide down as far as you want. He will be a baller and folks will make fun of the teams that past him up.

LOKI story can be found here...


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[QUOTE=OneWay]Shouldn't this kind of make Durant even more impressive?
Dude dominated college basketball like a very few players EVER and yet he is this "weak". Think about it.[/QUOTE]

I've been saying that since this all dropped. It's hilarious that people are overlooking this very fact. Are you telling me that this weakling dominated all of these superior athletes this well, and it's of little consequence?

[QUOTE=MaxFly]I've been saying that since this all dropped. It's hilarious that people are overlooking this very fact. Are you telling me that this weakling dominated all of these superior athletes this well, and it's of little consequence?[/QUOTE]

Yeah but even GeeWiz can push 185 off his chest first try and he doesnt even lift weights. 185 is the standard weight to lift.
















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[QUOTE=GOBB]The mofo said [B]2-3 sets of 10 with 185[/B]. :roll:

But ehhhh maybe he is telling the truth. His truth is abnormal. Definately not a mesuring stick with the avg mofo at that age or Durants for that matter to throw 185 off thier chest not ever lifting a single weight [I](assuming Durant hasnt, wouldnbt be shocked if he didnt touch weights much).[/I]

Only person I know who can do that is...

[IMG]http://www.popstarsplus.com/images/ChristopherReevePicture.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.hollywoodstandups.com/images/popeye.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.gavinshearer.com/photos/weblog/2005_08_09_mightymouse.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Lou-Ferrigno---The-Incredible-Hulk-Photograph-C10052499.jpeg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

Gobb, you're a h ater... How are you going to leave underdog out?

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Especially with a movie coming out soon.

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[IMG]http://www.theonion.com/content/files/images/Michael-Vick-R.article.jpg[/IMG]-"F*ck them dogs!"

[QUOTE=ppierce34]

And Loki, is either lying or a freak. That's not normal for any beginner, nevermind a 16-17 year old weighing 180.[/QUOTE]

Maybe I was 185 or 190 at the time, but that's about it. My HS weight fluctuated between 180-190. And I'm not lying. I think if I wanted to lie I could find better tall tales to tell than that I benched a whopping 185 pounds. :oldlol:

Like I said, I've been told that I'm very strong naturally, and I have a very broad frame (shoulders/chest). Don't know what to tell you, really, but I did what I did. People have always asked me if I lift and I never had prior to a short stint this past year.

[QUOTE=Day La Ghetto]LOKI sounds rationale most of the time but he spits out some major bs every now and then to question him.[/QUOTE]

:oldlol:

Wow, dudes are acting like 185 is some major stuff, here...

If I was a flapper, I'd talk about how I can curl 65 pounds or bench sets of 300, not how I can do 2-3 sets of 185. I mean, come on.

I have to place 70-80 lbs boxes on stack above my head for 8 1/2 hours 4-5 days per week. **** kills you (i don't do it 8 1/2 straight).

[QUOTE=Loki]:oldlol:

Wow, dudes are acting like 185 is some major stuff, here...

If I was a flapper, I'd talk about how I can curl 65 pounds or bench sets of 300, not how I can do 2-3 sets of 185. I mean, come on.[/QUOTE]

2-3 sets of 185 10 times at age 16-17 without EVER lifting. Thats the equivalent of your examples you gave if you were a flapper. You're saying a whopping 185. But 185 isnt even the standard bench weight yet you were able to lift it 10 times 2-3 sets without ever lifting? F*ck technique, f*ck not lifting anything that heavy in life before. But yeah you did it and now the 185 isnt THAT big of a deal so everyone should be able to achieve it at age 16-17 let alone any age especially when you dont lift weights in general. Atleast ACKNOWLEDGE your story isnt something that is done a lot. I'm sure everyone you told that too, and/or who saw/heard about it didnt respond with "Cool". Gurantee it was like wow, how the f*ck did you do that. I mean look at the reples so far in here...not one poster believed you initially...and some dont. And if i post your comment on a bodybuilding.com msgboard I bet the replies would be the same. If i post it at any random board it would be the same. In fact i mentioned your post to a couple friends via IM. Jst a general do you believe this? Nothing where my answer persuaded them to side with me...a non bias approach and they all said hell no. And that maybe you got the weight mixed up. You read it wrong and thought you lifted that much.

I dont have an account on a bodybuilding.com board or I'd make a topic there and see what was said. And how common, easy it is for avg joe's to press 185 off thier chest without having any experience with weight lifting whatsoever. Dont act like your feat is not out of the ordinary not unbelievable. It is.

[QUOTE=hippos]I have to place 70-80 lbs boxes on stack above my head for 8 1/2 hours 4-5 days per week. **** kills you (i don't do it 8 1/2 straight).[/QUOTE]

Flunky.

[QUOTE=GOBB] But yeah you did it and now the 185 isnt THAT big of a deal so everyone should be able to achieve it at age 16-17 let alone any age especially when you dont lift weights in general. Atleast ACKNOWLEDGE your story isnt something that is done a lot.[/quote]

I never said that everyone could do it. I just assumed an elite athlete in great shape could since I did. I honestly had and have no point of reference for what would be considered "impressive" in weight lifting, since I've never been into it at all.

[quote] I'm sure everyone you told that too, and/or who saw/heard about it didnt respond with "Cool". Gurantee it was like wow, how the f*ck did you do that. [/quote]

I actually never told anyone, because I didn't think it was a big deal. My best friend is the only person who knows, since we went to the gym together in the mornings before school for about a month.


[quote] You read it wrong and thought you lifted that much.[/quote]

Possible, but not probable, because in the intervening years every time I'd hear someone mention how much they lift I'd always compare it to that number in my mind. But I guess it's possible that my friend and I counted the weighs up wrong.

[quote]And how common, easy it is for avg joe's to press 185 off thier chest without having any experience with weight lifting whatsoever. Dont act like your feat is not out of the ordinary not unbelievable. It is.[/QUOTE]

I never assumed that an "average joe" could do it. I just felt that a guy who is clearly in great shape and is active should be able to, that's all. Guess I was wrong.

I got an account at BB.com. I'll make a topic if Loki's cool with it.

1 year has passed since you joined and youre still an idiot

[QUOTE=AirGauge23]I got an account at BB.com. I'll make a topic if Loki's cool with it.[/QUOTE]

If I'm cool with it? :oldlol: What the heck could I possibly care? I shared something that, to the best of my knowledge, is true. No skin off my back. Even if people scoff, it doesn't change what happened. I mean, I never even thought it was that big of a deal until now -- hell, you guys are making [b]me[/b] wonder if we counted the weight correctly. :oldlol:

[QUOTE=GOBB]Flunky.[/QUOTE]

what? Stop responding like some white dude wearing a pink shirt and sporting a faux hawk or whatever you call those horrible hair cuts.

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Durant in the test in Orlando.

I don't think he should enter the draft. He was s frosh this year, so think about this possibilty: I was his first year really getting in the weight room. His high school team doesn't really have an emphasis on lifting weights. The more he goes about doing it in college, the more he'll rapidly gain strength in that area. I don't think he should enter the draft. He should stay in college and develop more.

That's sounds "not smart".

[QUOTE]The guy is going to be a serious defensive liability. How will he keep any four off the block? How will he keep any three off the block for that matter? He probably bailed himself out with his height in college, now I see him being terribly exposed. Add to that his slow feet and it is a really interesting dilemma.[/QUOTE]

Leverage. It is all about leverage. I'm not saying he will have it but knowing how to use your body can overcome a lack of strength.

I'm also not really that shocked he couldn't do it. Most guys built like him cant do that kind of weight. The 215 is because of his height, he would be no heavier than a guy like AI if he was 6'. Durant would be a 150lb guy at a normal height. Find me the average 150lb guy who can bench 185. Add to the fact that his wingspan makes it even harder and its explained.

He does need to work on his strength, but guarding someone and injuries are more about core strength, not the arms. If his core and legs are strong than he wont have any major problems. Plus, how many 4's or 3s for that matter can guard him? He should at the very least be a threat to block shots and intercept passes, ie better than guys like Kobe, Tmac and LeBron are on defense. Hell... KG can guard just about anyone, he isnt any bigger than Durant.

Just read the thread and what Loki says isnt ridiculous. Impressive but not ridiculous.

We had 3 guys in my class in year 10 that were doing similar by the end of the year. Thats at 15. I only did sets of 6 on that kind of weight at years end, which means I built up to it but one guy was doing it from the start.

I can now do what he says fairly easily and I havent done any weights since year 10(2000). So I'm basically just coming in.

That all said, the massive difference is the build. I'm 5'11 and about 220. That makes me a lot bigger than Durant. No way Durant should be expected to do 185. Durant should only be doing reps in the 130-150 range anyway. If he was into weights he would get to a point where he was single repping 185. But I dont see what the shock is with what Durant did. He is skinny, Ethiopian type skinny. Why should he be putting up big bench numbers?

[QUOTE=IGOTGAME]Durant should be ashamed... But he did grow a little over an inch during the season. So I think maybe it payed off not lifting hard.

Im just excited that he is still growing. Dude is 6"10 with a 7"5 wingspan thats impressive.[/QUOTE]
this is true. Still, stay in college and finish growing! But the big money beckons, here I come

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But Can He Play? Analyzing the NBA Pre-Draft Combine Results

by: Jonathan Givony - President
June 5, 2007
He has a 7-6

:roll: Everyone is circling LOKI now doing the Urkel
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I think Durant will be fine, but he's not going to make a huge explosion his rookie year because he DOES lack a lot of strength that is 100% necessary to have in the nba. He's got the talent, but he's going to take some beatings (Hopefully Amare doesn't poster him) for at least a year, maybe almost 2 before he catches up with strength training and that combined with his high basketball IQ = basketball god.

i'd just like to say the thread starter is an idiot and needs to get a life....

kevin durant is about to get alot stronger lifting is fat WALLET and doing push-ups in and out of grade A pvssy.......while the threadstarter sits on this board talking about his bench press trying to make himself feel superior to a future nba all-star and jerking off to net-porn....

He will be a better player than Rashard Lewis, Dirk Nowitski and Tracy Mcgrady in his prime :cheers:

[QUOTE=icewill36]i'd just like to say the thread starter is an idiot and needs to get a life....

kevin durant is about to get alot stronger lifting is fat WALLET and doing push-ups in and out of grade A pvssy.......while the threadstarter sits on this board talking about his bench press trying to make himself feel superior to a future nba all-star and jerking off to net-porn....[/QUOTE]

oh really?

I am an idiot because I am surprised that a guy who is siuch a good athlete cant lift a simple weight?

Does my surprise make me feel superior?

Not sure really, Durant is going to be the number two pick, rich and was college player of the year as a freshman...so I guess to feel superior than him I would have to be like a dellusional person like you, you know, the kind of guy who writes irrelevant condescending posts about someone online.

STFU you piece of shiiit

[QUOTE=GOBB]World class athlete? :roll: Please explain this one. He's a f*cking basketball player.


And this is why i dont bone big bytches. I cant handle all that weight. But you and LOKI can...so have alllllllll the BBW's you want. :lol:[/QUOTE]


you have time to bang women in between your fifty thousand posts?

a man of your internet dedication is the LAST person who should ever comment about his personal life being one that is envied.

Gobb:

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I love it when a self admitted weakling("185 is Haaaaaaard to bench, jeez.") takes his smack talk to the "you bang fat chicks, I bang hot women" level. LOL, your greatest celebrity is the amount of posts you havehere, is that what scores hot chicks for a playa like you?

"Watch me post baybee, see the skills, perfect placement of the emoticon, deft timing on the picture upload. I am [I]THE living legend on ISH[/I] woman! you heard of that girl? I own basketball fanatical fifteen year olds all over the globe, international playa baybee! damn beyotch! I rock, bring your fine ass over here and gimme some head. Watch the keyboard beyotch! Damn woman cant you see Imma bout to Pwn some punk kid. Recognize"

then again Gobbles, maybe pointing out someone's lack of strength really hits home with you so you instinctively lash out, as flashbacks to your high school days (Lord knows you didn't go to college) getting picked on by the jocks comes racing back into your head. The kind of memories that turned you into this meanspirited cantankerous internet bully in the first place.

My friend in the 8th grade can bench more.