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[QUOTE=ShawkFactory]They're lower end 5 stars though.
He doesn't have an Anthony Davis, KAT, etc. this year. They may not have a lottery pick on the team right now. Perhaps Know but he won't be top 10.[/QUOTE]
Haha I'm glad you answered this one. Took a shot at replying last night myself, but it was awkward and nowhere near as direct and to the point like you did it here. Said nah and deleted it. :cheers:
Refs and announcers are retarded. Clearly off Mich St.
After admitting defeat on my integrity bracket, I'll make adjusted Final Four picks when the Sweet 16 is finalized.
Putting UMBC on TruTV :hammerhead:
[QUOTE=bigkingsfan]Putting UMBC on TruTV :hammerhead:[/QUOTE]
The f#ck huh?
[QUOTE=fourkicks44]The f#ck huh?[/QUOTE]
Seriously, dumbass Turner.
Anyway, anyone who complains about NBA refs needs to watch some of these college refs. Embarrassing. I saw at least 2 fouls on that last Cincy drive. Oh well, I like Musselman, grats to him and UNR.
Interesting Sweet 16. Possibly the LEAST Top 4 seeds ever?
WHAT A ****ING GAME! CBS didn
I've found that in recent years its become more difficult to predict the tournament with any accuracy. There's just too much parity in college basketball now.
Anyone remember who the coach at auburn before Bruce pearl? He hasn
UMBC shooting 30% and 50% from the line, still in it. :oldlol:
I kinda want UMBC to win so I can watch Kentucky beat the shit out of them. K-State and Virginia played weak as hell against them. Just get to the rim and kick their ass lol.
UMBC are just too small. Their D is good, but they can't score for shit. All they have Lyles and he was cold af.
They had their chances but they couldn't put it in the hoop.
Kansas St up 50-43
Can't wait for the 2nd half
[QUOTE=HenryGarfunkle]Kansas St up 50-43
Can't wait for the 2nd half[/QUOTE]
:roll:
My point exactly.
Has there ever been this crazy of a first weekend?
Before the sweet 16 we've lost 2 ones, 2 twos, 2 threes, and 3 4s. Less than half of the top 16 seeds remain.
For sure. It has been one crazy weekend. I have never seen anything like it.
[QUOTE=fourkicks44]
Villanova has the easiest run to the Final Four.
Xavier is overrated af.[/QUOTE]
Good call.
Nova gotta be the undoubted favorite now.
[QUOTE=fourkicks44]Good call.
Nova gotta be the undoubted favorite now.[/QUOTE]
I'm sticking to my integrity pick and having WVU beat them!
My adjusted Final Four isn't that much adjusted. I still have 3 teams - Mich, WVU, Kansas - in it, so I'm sticking w/ them.
But that South bracket. Kentucky seems too easy of a pick. Any of the other 3 are tempting to pick. I think if Kentucky beats KSU, they'll beat LUC/UNR. But KSU, as crappy as they are on offense, look nice on D. This just has been a bizarro tourney so far, especially in the South. Do I pick that to continue or do I pick Kentucky to set things right and straighten it all out?
Still debating. But I have til Thurs to figure it out.
[QUOTE=FreezingTsmoove]Dude has 8 5 star prospects on his team right and thats not even counting Shai Giligeous...........[/QUOTE]
He also has the youngest team in NCAA [I]history[/I].
Not just this season.... in history. As in, ever.
My final four is still intact (Kentucky, Gonzaga, Duke, Villanova).
Looks like, barring some unforeseen incident, your boy here is going to win his bracket pool.
[QUOTE=ShawkFactory]Has there ever been this crazy of a first weekend?
Before the sweet 16 we've lost 2 ones, 2 twos, 2 threes, and 3 4s. Less than half of the top 16 seeds remain.[/QUOTE]
First time since the tournament expanded (I think 1975 or 1979) that none of the top 4 seeds in a region made it to the SS.
[QUOTE=UK2K]My final four is still intact (Kentucky, Gonzaga, Duke, Villanova).
Looks like, barring some unforeseen incident, your boy here is going to win his bracket pool.[/QUOTE]
Hey! That looks a lot like my revised final four I made Saturday night!:cheers:
[QUOTE=UK2K]My final four is still intact (Kentucky, Gonzaga, Duke, Villanova).
Looks like, barring some unforeseen incident, your boy here is going to win his bracket pool.[/QUOTE]
I have the same final 4 except for Kentucky. I put some money on Gonzaga at +2500 to win it all before the tournament started and I'm feeling pretty good about that bet.
[QUOTE=UK2K]My final four is still intact (Kentucky, Gonzaga, Duke, Villanova).
Looks like, barring some unforeseen incident, your boy here is going to win his bracket pool.[/QUOTE]
I like those picks…sentimentally.
But as I stated (at least I think I stated) in a previous post, I’m all about superstitious history. And I had to dig back to 1989 when the last time an all-blue colored Final Four happened. And that was w/ Illinois, which claims orange as its first color. So that may not even count. I kept scrolling to the ‘60s, and just gave up.
So yeah…based off my own dumb superstition, I don’t think that FF will happen. Need a non-blue team in there! Which is what is making me lean towards KSU or LUC in the South, if I stick w/ my other 3 original picks. Or maybe I betray one of my surviving picks and go w/ Tech or TAMU or Clemson or ‘Cuse, etc…
[QUOTE=Jailblazers7]I have the same final 4 except for Kentucky. I put some money on Gonzaga at +2500 to win it all before the tournament started and I'm feeling pretty good about that bet.[/QUOTE]
I put $20 on UK at +2300 to win before the tourney started. :applause:
I always said if they got past Arizona, they were going to the FF.
Plus side is, they didn't even have to face Arizona.
[QUOTE=UK2K]I put $20 on UK at +2300 to win before the tourney started. :applause:
I always said if they got past Arizona, they were going to the FF.
Plus side is, they didn't even have to face Arizona.[/QUOTE]
I hope its a Gonzaga/Kentucky Final 4 match-up because those are the two most talented teams left on that side of the bracket. I'd love to see a match-up between Gilgeous-Alexander and Zach Norvell on Gonzaga.
Ladies and gentlemen....
The records speak for themselves.
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYldUcmX0AAoQy9.jpg:large[/IMG]
Who would've thunk the school that has produced by far the most NBA stars since 2010 would also have the best record in march/April
[QUOTE=HenryGarfunkle]Who would've thunk the school that has produced by far the most NBA stars since 2010 would also have the best record in march/April[/QUOTE]
:roll: I know right. Dude is breaking ground here.
LOOK GUYS, THE TEAM THAT HAS THE MOST TALENT REALLY DOES DA BESSSS
[QUOTE=HenryGarfunkle]Who would've thunk the school that has produced by far the most NBA stars since 2010 would also have the best record in march/April[/QUOTE]
:lol
Ok, I've thought about this alot. I'm gonna hedge my bets and have my updated integrity pick, adapted for the loss of UVA, and my adjusted pick, which is who I think will actually go the FF, regardless of staying true to my original picks. I'm still sticking to 1 non-blue team.
[U]Integrity pick (updated)[/U]
Kansas State
Michigan
West Virginia
Kansas
[U]Adjusted pick[/U]
Kentucky
Michigan
Texas Tech
Kansas
Gonna still pick Michigan to win it all for both.
[QUOTE=UK2K]Ladies and gentlemen....
The records speak for themselves.
[/QUOTE]
Great record, no doubt. But that's a lot of tourneys he got far and didn't win it. Dude still has just 1 ring... :confusedshrug:
Cal has the same number of championships as Kevin Ollie.
[QUOTE=HenryGarfunkle]Who would've thunk the school that has produced by far the most NBA stars since 2010 would also have the best record in march/April[/QUOTE]
Why did so many experts pick Davidson to upset UK?
Then the experts picked Buffalo to upset UK.
Now all of a sudden, UK is the favorite and anything short of a FF is a disaster.
Its funny how quickly the narrative changes, ain't it?
[QUOTE=Dr. Cheesesteak]
Great record, no doubt. But that's a lot of tourneys he got far and didn't win it. Dude still has just 1 ring... :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
And I thought UK fans were demanding...
I'm satisfied with 7 Elite Eights in 9 years. I would think expecting anything more is unreasonable. I don't believe a single other team in college basketball can say the same thing over the last 9 years.
So, I [I]expect[/I] them to be in the conversation every year by season's end, and they are. To expect them to win multiple titles is laughable.
[QUOTE=imdaman99]:roll: I know right. Dude is breaking ground here.
LOOK GUYS, THE TEAM THAT HAS THE MOST TALENT REALLY DOES DA BESSSS[/QUOTE]
I thought these were the best teams...
[QUOTE]Seth Greenberg’s Final Four: Virginia, Michigan, Villanova, Michigan State.
Jeff Goodman’s Final Four: Arizona, Xavier, Villanova, Kansas.
Joe Lunardi’s Final Four: Virginia, Michigan State, West Virginia, Gonzaga.
John Thompson III’s Final Four: Arizona, North Carolina, Villanova, Michigan State.
Dick Vitale’s Final Four: Virginia, Gonzaga, Villanova, Michigan State.
Jay Williams’s Final Four: Arizona, Gonzaga, Villanova, Michigan State.[/QUOTE]
So did they. :oldlol:
So what is it?
They're the best team just none of the 'experts' wanted to pick the best team? Did [I][U]you[/U][/I] pick them going to the Championship game? Of course not, so even you don't think they're the best team.
I wasn't aware UK had this type of pedigree around the country. UK was an 8 seed in 2014, were they the best team then, too? Did the tournament committee just seed them entirely wrong? They were a 4 seed in 2016? Best team or nah?
[QUOTE=UK2K]To expect them to win multiple titles is laughable.[/QUOTE]
Why? It’s Kentucky. And it’s arguably the best recruiter in the history of college bball.
If one-and-done is your retort, please. Even Coach K has won a couple titles in this one-and-done era w/ his teams relying primarily on freshmen. Roy Williams has won multiple titles at UNC relying on less talent.
A year is plenty of time to build synergy w/ a bunch of new players. Cal has already done it. What’s to stop him from doing it again?
I mean, I’m not even a ring-worshipper tool like others are here. And I understand it’s college bball and the amount of top-tier programs is high. But don’t act like Cal is head and shoulders above the rest just b/c he’s won a lot of NCAA tourney games, when he’s always had the most talented teams, but other coaches have won more titles in his time at UK.
I still wanna throw Cal a bone here, tho. I'm not trying to shit on him. Rather than his record, I’d just show off the Final Fours he’s been to instead. Sure the record implies deep runs, therefore Final Fours. But saying he has the most Final Fours during his UK tenure is the most impressive.
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[QUOTE=UK2K]
I thought these were the best teams...
So did they.
So what is it?
They're the best team just none of the 'experts' wanted to pick the best team? Did you pick them going to the Championship game? Of course not, so even you don't think they're the best team.
I wasn't aware UK had this type of pedigree around the country. UK was an 8 seed in 2014, were they the best team then, too? Did the tournament committee just seed them entirely wrong? They were a 4 seed in 2016? Best team or nah?[/QUOTE]
Even if you're being sarcastic, you're also strawmanning. Imdaman was referring to UK talent since 2010. Not 2017-18 UK's playing results or UK from any other year.
And you know seeds are based primarily on results of the whole season, the resume. Not actual talent. You can be the most talented and still not play as the best team during the regular or post seasons. And those "experts" thought UK wasn't going to play the best. Not that they weren't the most talented.
[QUOTE=Dr. Cheesesteak]Why? It’s Kentucky. And it’s arguably the best recruiter in the history of college bball.
If one-and-done is your retort, please. Even Coach K has won a couple titles in this one-and-done era w/ his teams relying primarily on freshmen. Roy Williams has won multiple titles at UNC relying on less talent.
A year is plenty of time to build synergy w/ a bunch of new players. Cal has already done it. What’s to stop him from doing it again?
I mean, I’m not even a ring-worshipper tool like others are here. And I understand it’s college bball and the amount of top-tier programs is high. But don’t act like Cal is head and shoulders above the rest just b/c he’s won a lot of NCAA tourney games, when he’s always had the most talented teams, but other coaches have won more titles in his time at UK.
I still wanna throw Cal a bone here, tho. I'm not trying to shit on him. Rather than his record, I’d just show off the Final Fours he’s been to instead. Sure the record implies deep runs, therefore Final Fours. But saying he has the most Final Fours during his UK tenure is the most impressive.[/QUOTE]
Oh, he's absolutely not. But his tournament resume (in the SEC and the NCAA) speaks for itself.
Again... 'most talented'? Yeah, I don't think so. Has he had a lot of talent some years? Of course. But for every Anthony Davis or Karl Towns, there's an Archie Goodwin or Daniel Orton.
You likely only watch the final product come March, but if you followed this team year in and year out, you'd be hard pressed to argue they've had 'the most talent' in all but maybe one or two years.
[QUOTE=Dr. Cheesesteak]edit:
Even if you're being sarcastic, you're also strawmanning. Imdaman was referring to UK talent since 2010. [B]Not 2017-18 UK's playing results or UK from any other year. [/B]
And you know seeds are based primarily on results of the whole season, the resume. Not actual talent. You can be the most talented and still not play as the best team during the regular or post seasons. And those "experts" thought UK wasn't going to play the best. Not that they weren't the most talented.[/QUOTE]
I didn't know he specified a certain team, or year.
So let me get this straight... you argue UK has 'the most talent' therefore, they should have won more championships.
Then you argue that you can have the most talent but not play the best?
So then you would agree talent doesn't equal success? Me too. Or does that only apply when it's Kentucky?
How many times has Duke flamed out as a 2 seed? Remember Leigh? We just saw North Carolina do the same thing. Do you know how many teams UK has lost to in the tournament to a team seeded more than one line below them? Zero. Cal is (now) 28-0 at UK in the tournament against teams at least two seeds below them. So what's the excuse for the Duke and North Carolina teams being upset nearly every single year?
They've got plenty of talent, right? But they still get upset as 2-seeds?
Michigan makin it rain
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Kentucky gettin rekt :oldlol:
Kentucky 😂
UK is a sham. They stack the team with tall lottery picks. And on top of that, they play extra home games!
There are no winners or losers in this game. The only losers are those who tuned into watch