Switch bron with Leonard and all these idiots would be saying asterisk ring only won because of injuries. And they know it
Printable View
Switch bron with Leonard and all these idiots would be saying asterisk ring only won because of injuries. And they know it
[QUOTE=stalkerforlife]His points make no sense.
Kawhi won without a super team and collusion.
Bran never did.
Lowry, the biggest playoff joke in the league, became a stud with Kawhi's proverbial balls.
It's over for Bran in this scenario.[/QUOTE]
Define collusion.
Kawhi joined a 69 win team. Is this collusion?
[QUOTE=stalkerforlife]Kawhi is better.
2 time DPOY, too.
Doesn't go all out in the regular season to fool box score junkies.
A real winner.[/QUOTE]
LeBron has ruined you, crater face.
[QUOTE=aj1987]LeBron has ruined you, crater face.[/QUOTE]
Ad hominem.
You lose.
Fact is, Kawhi is better than your Bran and it hurts.
[QUOTE=stalkerforlife]Ad hominem.
You lose.
Fact is, Kawhi is better than your Bran and it hurts.[/QUOTE]
That's just your autistic opinion. :confusedshrug:
[QUOTE=aj1987]That's just your autistic opinion. :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
You go with the crowd.
You use ad-hominem to deflect.
I go with the eye test without considering the name on the jersey.
Zero bias.
[QUOTE=AussieSteve]Define collusion.
Kawhi joined a 69 win team. Is this collusion?[/QUOTE]
Really?
That's how low you're going to stoop?
That's how I know you know deep down that Kawhi's run through the East is better than anything Bran ever did.
And that he's organic and not manufactured like Bran.
[QUOTE=SpaceJammeR]Switch bron with Leonard and all these idiots would be saying asterisk ring only won because of injuries. And they know it
[QUOTE=SpaceJam]LeBron haters really are wild, Kawhi the flavor of the month huh?
What happened to Giannis
What happened to Curry
Y'all just jump from player to player :roll:[/QUOTE]
You are stupid.
The only player I've supported is Kawhi.
Of course you only suck the nuts of one LeBron James so you wouldn't know any better.
[QUOTE=stalkerforlife]You go with the crowd.
You use ad-hominem to deflect.
I go with the eye test without considering the name on the jersey.
Zero bias.[/QUOTE]
As I said, that's just your autistic opinion.
Next time you want to talk about the eye test, try actually keeping your eyes open and on the game.
[QUOTE=aj1987]As I said, that's just your autistic opinion.
Next time you want to talk about the eye test, try actually keeping your eyes open and on the game.[/QUOTE]
Kawhi's better.
Real basketball aficionados know this.
Talking heads geared toward ratings have an allegiance of minions, but not the truth.
[QUOTE=stalkerforlife]Kawhi's better.
Real basketball aficionados know this.
Talking heads geared toward ratings have an allegiance of minions, but not the truth.[/QUOTE]
You love Curry, right?
[url]https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/warriors-stephen-curry-names-his-top-five-nba-players-of-all-time/[/url]
If Kawhi passed LeBron, that would put him in the top 2, considering the FACT that LeBron is cemented in the top 2.
However, Kawhi passed Brick in '14 though. Fraudbe is now battling with the likes of Lowry, when it comes to ATG lists.
[QUOTE=stalkerforlife]Kawhi's better.
Real basketball aficionados know this.
Talking heads geared toward ratings have an allegiance of minions, but not the truth.[/QUOTE]
Kawhi is better now. But we are talking about the all time list. Lebron's peak was still higher. And he is higher on the all time list.
[QUOTE=aj1987]You love Curry, right?
[url]https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/warriors-stephen-curry-names-his-top-five-nba-players-of-all-time/[/url]
If Kawhi passed LeBron, that would put him in the top 2, considering the FACT that LeBron is cemented in the top 2.
However, Kawhi passed Brick in '14 though. Fraudbe is now battling with the likes of Lowry, when it comes to ATG lists.[/QUOTE]
I couldn't care less about Curry.
I just like his skill that was needed to overcome his small body.
And Bran is not even top 10.
You can't ring chase in your prime forming super teams in arguably the weakest conference ever and be top 10.
Everything from the Miami days on is meaningless to aficionados.
[QUOTE=aj1987]You love Curry, right?
[url]https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/warriors-stephen-curry-names-his-top-five-nba-players-of-all-time/[/url]
If Kawhi passed LeBron, that would put him in the top 2, considering the FACT that LeBron is cemented in the top 2.
However, Kawhi passed Brick in '14 though. Fraudbe is now battling with the likes of Lowry, when it comes to ATG lists.[/QUOTE]
And comparing Kobe to Lowry means you lose and trolling is all you have.
Signed. Sealed. Delivered.
[QUOTE=Mr Feeny]Kawhi is better now. But we are talking about the all time list. Lebron's peak was still higher. And he is higher on the all time list.[/QUOTE]
Bran's peak is not higher.
Kawhi faced far better competition in the East without a super team and the help of the NBA.
Kawhi has legit elite skills, such as post play, mid range, etc.
He's just better.
[QUOTE=stalkerforlife]I couldn't care less about Curry.[/quote]
Except for the all the times you made threads sucking him off.
[QUOTE=stalkerforlife]And Bran is not even top 10.[/quote]
Top 10? He's cemented in the top 3 and that's a universal consensus.
[QUOTE=stalkerforlife]You can't ring chase in your prime forming super teams in arguably the weakest conference ever and be top 10.[/quote]
Rapebe had bad teams for like 2 season and he cried (just like his stans) for a trade. Only shut up after they got him a stacked AF roster again. Dude was either lottery trash or getting bent over in the first round without Shaq/Pau.
[QUOTE=stalkerforlife]Everything from the Miami days on is meaningless to retards.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. :cheers:
[QUOTE=stalkerforlife]And comparing Kobe to Lowry means you lose and trolling is all you have.
Signed. Sealed. Delivered.[/QUOTE]
Did I hurt your feelings, crater face? :oldlol:
[QUOTE=aj1987]Except for the all the times you made threads sucking him off.
Top 10? He's cemented in the top 3 and that's a universal consensus.
Rapebe had bad teams for like 2 season and he cried (just like his stans) for a trade. Only shut up after they got him a stacked AF roster again. Dude was either lottery trash or getting bent over in the first round without Shaq/Pau.
Agreed. :cheers:
Did I hurt your feelings, crater face? :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
I want the truth at the top.
Helps get the truth out.
All I care about is the truth.
:cheers:
Yep, nice Kawhi!
1. Kawhi
2-4. Jordan/Lebron/Kareem
4-6. Wilt/Russell/Magic.
6-7. Bird/Shaq.
8-10. Duncan/Hakeem
20-30. Havlicek/Wade/Pippen/Kobe
What a guy huh! All those accolades he has makes a dude wet, all those mvps n stuff and being the best player in the nba even just one time.... Omg omg Amazing!
Bruh stalker stop with this Lebron posts it's getting repetitive.
:facepalm
We need more interesting posts, not Lebron over and over again.
I'm a Lebron stan
You're a Kobe stan
it's all good, but your posts are repetitive with this 'Lebron' nonsense
:facepalm
[QUOTE=Turbo Slayer]Bruh stalker stop with this Lebron posts it's getting repetitive.
:facepalm
We need more interesting posts, not Lebron over and over again.
I'm a Lebron stan
You're a Kobe stan
it's all good, but your posts are repetitive with this 'Lebron' nonsense
:facepalm[/QUOTE]
Who's alt are you? :lol
Kawhi destroys Lebron on the goat list
Lebron is literally a colluding, non-competitive fool - that's what he's doing.. colluding.. his team has gotten really good at it and essentially legalized it by call Silver's bluff (not that Silver was ever threatening to do anything about it)
[QUOTE=3ball]Kawhi destroys Lebron on the goat list
Lebron is literally a colluding, [B]non-competitive fool[/B] - that's what he's doing.. colluding.. his team has gotten really good at it and essentially legalized it by call Silver's bluff (not that Silver was ever threatening to do anything about it)[/QUOTE]
You hero tried to win a ring by coming back with only 17gms left in the reg. season.
yeah, real competitive :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=Hey Yo]You hero tried to win a ring by coming back with only 17gms left in the reg. season.
yeah, real competitive :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
He came back to an 8 seed - the bulls were the 8 seed when he came back and heading south towards lottery - he ensured a playoff berth by going 13-4
Furthermore, he didn't force the bulls to acquire David Robinson and Gary Payton like Lebron is doing (AD and Kyrie)
You're just denying the facts because you're a bamboozled lebron stan
[QUOTE=3ball]He came back to an 8 seed - the bulls were the 8 seed when he came back and heading south towards lottery - [B]he ensured a playoff berth by going 13-4[/QUOTE][/B]
The Bulls only needed to win 6 out of the last 17 games to get a playoff berth. They would have easily done that w/o MJ.
[QUOTE]Furthermore, he didn't force the bulls to acquire David Robinson and Gary Payton like Lebron is doing (AD and Kyrie)[/QUOTE]
LOL @ thinking any GM in the league needs to be forced to try to acquire a guy who you said is going to be MVP next season.
Why didn't Jordan oppose to getting the reigning rebound champion and All-NBA defender if he was so competitive?? He already had the best 2 way player in the league and the best shooting Euro in the league. Why the need to :cry: to Krause...... [I]"I won't play without Phil or Scottie"[/I]
[QUOTE=stalkerforlife]Bran's peak is not higher.
Kawhi faced far better competition in the East without a super team and the help of the NBA.
Kawhi has legit elite skills, such as post play, mid range, etc.
He's just better.[/QUOTE]
Being more skilled doesnt make you a better player though. Shaq wasnt skilled and was one dimensional but he's a top 5-7 player all time. Kobe was more skilled than Lebron, as is Chris Paul. Neither are better players.
[QUOTE=Mr Feeny]Being more skilled doesnt make you a better player though. Shaq wasnt skilled and was one dimensional but he's a top 5-7 player all time. Kobe was more skilled than Lebron, as is Chris Paul. Neither are better players.[/QUOTE]
did you ever watch shaq play? one dimensional? gtfo :biggums:
[QUOTE=Vino24]did you ever watch shaq play? one dimensional? gtfo :biggums:[/QUOTE]
Yes. Shaq wasnt known for beating you in many ways. He played in the post and was unstoppable so that didnt matter. Compare that to Kobe. He was infinitely more skilled than Shaq and about 20 times more skilled than Lebron.
But that isnt the discussion.
[QUOTE=Mr Feeny]
Being more skilled doesnt make you a better player though. Shaq wasnt skilled and was one dimensional but he's a top 5-7 player all time. Kobe was more skilled than Lebron, as is Chris Paul. Neither are better players.
[/QUOTE]
Kawhi is a better 5-on-5 player than Lebron (can win without super-teams and get stats with elite teamwork)
And he's probably equal 1-on-1 - the stats actually say he's a BETTER iso player
I believe that most people's high opinion of bran is his "passing"... But high APG is overrated - in the entire 90's, 00's and 10's (30 years), the only guys that won rings while averaging over 8 apg in the RS, PO, [U]or[/U] Finals is Kidd (8.2 apg in 11' RS), Lebron (8.9 apg in 16' Finals), and MJ (11.2 apg in 91' Finals).
^^^ Let that sink in... High apg makes teammates play-finishers, thus reducing their role and impact... Ultimately:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] versatile, timely scoring that lets teammates maximize their role > ball-dominant assists that reduce teammates to low impact play-finishers
[QUOTE=3ball]Kawhi is a better 5-on-5 player than Lebron (can win without super-teams and get stats with elite teamwork)
And he's probably equal 1-on-1 - the stats actually say he's a BETTER iso player
I believe that most people's high opinion of bran is his "passing"... But high APG is overrated - in the entire 90's, 00's and 10's (30 years), the only guys that won rings while averaging over 8 apg in the RS, PO, [U]or[/U] Finals is Kidd (8.2 apg in 11' RS), Lebron (8.9 apg in 16' Finals), and MJ (11.2 apg in 91' Finals).
^^^ Let that sink in... High apg makes teammates play-finishers, thus reducing their role and impact... Ultimately:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] versatile, timely scoring that lets teammates maximize their role > ball-dominant assists that reduce teammates to low impact play-finishers[/QUOTE]
I-on-1 isnt the discussion. Otherwise Kobe 》 Lebron. As far as 5 on 5,I'm not sure I agree. I still think that prime Lebron was a different player from the one you see now, who plays little defense and primarily focuses on simple box score stats. Only Jordan, Shaq, and Wilt may have had higher peaks in my opinion.
[QUOTE=Mr Feeny]
I-on-1 isnt the discussion. Otherwise Kobe 》 Lebron. As far as 5 on 5,I'm not sure I agree. I still think that prime Lebron was a different player from the one you see now, who plays little defense and primarily focuses on simple box score stats. Only Jordan, Shaq, and Wilt may have had higher peaks in my opinion.[/QUOTE]
I mentioned 1-on-1 because if a player is better at 1-on-1 (Kobe) and 5-on-5 (5 rings), then he's the better basketball player.... Yeah, I know kobe won 3 rings with Shaq, but he won 2 with Bosh too, I mean Pau
Secondly, define "peak"
Thirdly, his 5-on-5 ability is overrated because his Finals runs were manufactured - he stacked the deck in a conference where Dwight was dragging weak casts to the Finals.. give 09' Dwight a couple stars like Wade/Bosh and it's Dwight with the manufactured Finals streak..
Lastly, high APG has always been an overrated stat and has proven to win FAR less than lower apg players over the last 30 yrs.. Ultimately, great 5-on-5 play requires great teamwork - Lebron's narrow, ball-dominant skillset doesn't allow it and needs extra talent to offset the weak teamwork
.
[QUOTE=3ball]I mentioned 1-on-1 because if a player is better at 1-on-1 (Kobe) and 5-on-5 (5 rings), then he's the better basketball player.... Yeah, I know kobe won 3 rings with Shaq, but he won 2 with Bosh too, I mean Pau
Secondly, define "peak"
Thirdly, his 5-on-5 ability is overrated because his Finals runs were manufactured - he stacked the deck in a conference where Dwight was dragging weak casts to the Finals.. give 09' Dwight a couple stars like Wade/Bosh and it's Dwight with the manufactured Finals streak..
Lastly, high APG has always been an overrated stat and has proven to win FAR less than lower apg players over the last 30 yrs.. Ultimately, great 5-on-5 play requires great teamwork - Lebron's narrow, ball-dominant skillset doesn't allow it and needs extra talent to offset the weak teamwork
.[/QUOTE]
Another one.
No one breaks it down better.
A true expert.
[QUOTE=stalkerforlife]I want the truth at the top.
Helps get the truth out.
All I care about is the truth.
:cheers:[/QUOTE]
So you have LeBron in your top 3 then? Good to know. :cheers:
[QUOTE=aj1987]So you have LeBron in your top 3 then? Good to know. :cheers:[/QUOTE]
No aficionado tries to rank Bran like that.
His cowardly decisions destroyed his legacy.
[QUOTE=stalkerforlife]No aficionado tries to rank Brick like that.
His cowardly decisions destroyed his legacy.[/QUOTE]
Good to know. :cheers:
[QUOTE=3ball]I mentioned 1-on-1 because if a player is better at 1-on-1 (Kobe) and 5-on-5 (5 rings), then he's the better basketball player....
.[/QUOTE]
So you have John Rogers Jr over Ordan?
[QUOTE=aj1987]Good to know. :cheers:[/QUOTE]
Kobe played every season for one team and won back to back titles without a top 75 player all time.
Pau may not even be too 100.
All while the NBA tried to impede him.
:cheers:
[QUOTE=stalkerforlife]Kobe played every season for one team and won back to back titles without a top 75 player all time.
Pau may not even be too 100.
All while the NBA tried to impede him.
:cheers:[/QUOTE]
Pau is easily top 100. He is right there with KG and Dirk. He should of won fmvp but obviously a legacy had to be protected
[QUOTE=SpaceJam2][IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/MGR4Fm7m/GOATchipalltime.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/jSzDvzMx/tenor.gif[/IMG]
[IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/9XNrQrGn/screen-shot-2018-05-21-at-11-42-59-am.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Yikes
[QUOTE=stalkerforlife]Kobe played every season for one team and was in the lottery or getting his shit pushed in in the 1st round without Pau/Shaq.
Kobe may not even be too 100.
All while the NBA tried to manufacture him as an ATG.
:cheers:[/QUOTE]
Agreed. :cheers: