So let's just boil all the latest news and reporting down to the basics...
Trump, in his pursuit of a second term as President, asked a foreign power to help him by attacking a political enemy who is running against him.
:confusedshrug:
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So let's just boil all the latest news and reporting down to the basics...
Trump, in his pursuit of a second term as President, asked a foreign power to help him by attacking a political enemy who is running against him.
:confusedshrug:
[QUOTE=MaxFly]So let's just boil all the latest news and reporting down to the basics...
Trump, in his pursuit of a second term as President, asked a foreign power to help him by attacking a political enemy who is running against him.
:confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
Why is anyone surprised? Same game plan as 2016
No way to sugar coat this. This is bad. It's almost as bad as a sitting president using US spy agencies to spy on a presidential candidate.
Trumpeters mounting a 'Lil Donny defense'.. In typical Trump fashion, their defense is to attack the whistle-blower rather than the content of the material, which they seem to be ignoring. :facepalm
Why are Republicans in Congress also silent as a ghost? Not a sound. :confusedshrug:
[QUOTE=bladefd]Why are Republicans in Congress also silent as a ghost? Not a sound. :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
battered woman and stockholm syndromes.
[QUOTE][B]Battered Woman Syndrome
[/B]
Symptoms
-love the person who is harming them and believe they will change
-deny that anything is wrong or excuse the person who is abusing them
-have moral or religious reasons for staying in the relationship (mikey pence and the evangelicals say hi)
[B]Honeymoon phase:[/B] After carrying out the abuse, the individual may feel remorse. They may attempt to win back their partner's trust and affection. [B]The person who experiences the abuse may idealize their partner during this period, seeing only their good side and making excuses for what happened.[/B][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][B]Stockholm syndrome[/B], psychological response wherein a captive begins to identify closely with his or her captors, as well as with their agenda and demands.[/QUOTE]
who does that remind you of?
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[QUOTE=TheMan]First, he didn't take Obama's job waa waa waa[/QUOTE]
that coping lol .. now his daughter is getting turned out by maga .. ol barry taking big L's since '16
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Yo Pelosi still REFUSES to impeach the mango. This bitch is complicit. Vote her ass out in 2020.
God I hate her.
[QUOTE=RRR3]Yo Pelosi still REFUSES to impeach the mango. This bitch is complicit.[/QUOTE]
nah, she just knows it's pointless since moscow mitch will kill it the second it reaches the senate. of course maga will spin it as a victory during campaign season.
at this point it's like, the difference between an impeachment process final date and election day is a few months.
not the worst strategy to continue the impeachment hearings, gather the evidence, vote, then let the prosecutors/attorneys general/etc feast.
[QUOTE]Vote her ass out in 2020.[/QUOTE]
pretty sure she agreed to make this her last term in exchange for the squad standing down on their mutiny attempt. so, she's done either way.
sounds like sleepy joe wants to give the emperor the [URL="https://www.mediaite.com/news/watch-joe-biden-tells-story-of-facing-down-razor-wielding-gang-leader-named-corn-pop/"][B]corn pop[/B][/URL] treatment
[URL="https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-ukraine-controversy-beat-trump"][B]Biden goes on the attack over Ukraine controversy, pledges to beat Trump ‘like a drum’[/B][/URL]
:lol :eek:
Pelosi literally isn’t doing her job.
People get fired for that.
[QUOTE=SomeBlackDude]presidential/pm immunity is a helluva drug.
these dudes think they can just commit crimes forever and never have to face the music.
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at least [URL="https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/elections/.premium-netanyahu-says-no-intention-of-seeking-plea-bargain-in-corruption-cases-1.7865855"][B]bibi won't be snitching/taking a plea[/B][/URL].
dude is a real gangsta.
the anti tekashi.
i wish him good fortune in the trials to come.
:cheers:[/QUOTE]Are you actually a black man ?
If so, your admiration of "bibi's gangsta" is suicidally insane.
His Likud party openly advocates for sterilizing all black ethiopian jewish women in Israel, to kill off the black jews. Likud also has numerous members who have publicly said "africans have no culture and contribute nothing of value to the earth."
Check yourself brother.
[QUOTE=RRR3]Yo Pelosi still REFUSES to impeach the mango. This bitch is complicit. Vote her ass out in 2020.
God I hate her.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol:
Biden will use this to victimize himself and his family. His poll numbers will skyrocket in the primary race just because of this situation.. :facepalm
It will blow-back in Trump's face, but it will also damage all of the Democrat runner-ups. Just watch next week when latest polls release.
[QUOTE=bladefd]Biden will use this to victimize himself and his family. His poll numbers will skyrocket in the primary race just because of this situation.. :facepalm
It will blow-back in Trump's face, but it will also damage all of the Democrat runner-ups. Just watch next week when latest polls release.[/QUOTE]
Biden sucks. I’m sick of fake ass left wingers like him and Pelosi.
[QUOTE=BarberSchool]Are you actually a black man ?
If so, your admiration of "bibi's gangsta" is suicidally insane.
His Likud party openly advocates for sterilizing all black ethiopian jewish women in Israel, to kill off the black jews. Likud also has numerous members who have publicly said "africans have no culture and contribute nothing of value to the earth."
Check yourself brother.[/QUOTE]
if what you're saying is true, then maybe it's a good thing that bibi's election day loss opens him up to potential prosecution and prison time. :applause:
[QUOTE]Biden will use this to victimize himself and his family. His poll numbers will skyrocket in the primary race just because of this situation..[/QUOTE]
there's a reason why maga is scared shitless of sleepy joe. the man is a god to the working class whites of the rust belt, aka the spot where the gawd emperor eeked out his electoral college win and the spot he needs to win in 2020.
much in the same way that there is no crime that maga could commit that would make their minions turn on them, there isn't a gaffe on earth that sleepy could make that would cause the rust belt to turn on him.
maga's own internal polls, not the manufactured fake news ones, show joe blowing the emperor's brains out in those key states.
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hence the new collusion scheme.
#nocollusion
^ if dondadda's posting it, you know it's the opposite :applause:
[QUOTE=rufuspaul]No way to sugar coat this. This is bad. It's almost as bad as a [B]sitting president using US spy agencies to spy on a presidential candidate[/B].[/QUOTE]
You went with "3." I expected some combination of "3" and "2." Props on showing some restraint.
Incidentally, which sitting president are you referring to in your post?
[QUOTE=bladefd]Why are Republicans in Congress also silent as a ghost? Not a sound. :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
It has been several days and they've yet to settle on talking points or mount a defense; that's how you know it's pretty bad. They've avoided all of their favorite political shows. We'll see how they do tomorrow on Face the Nation, Meet the Press, State of the Union and This Week.
Also looking forward to how Chris Wallace treats the issue.
[QUOTE=RRR3]Yo Pelosi still REFUSES to impeach the mango. This bitch is complicit. Vote her ass out in 2020.
God I hate her.[/QUOTE]
Impeachment isn't the goal... the inquiry and investigation is. You want to get all the facts out in the open before broaching impeachment.
[QUOTE=bladefd]Biden will use this to victimize himself and his family. His poll numbers will skyrocket in the primary race just because of this situation.. :facepalm
It will blow-back in Trump's face, but it will also damage all of the Democrat runner-ups. Just watch next week when latest polls release.[/QUOTE]
This is exactly what will happen.
It should be noted... Trump is deathly afraid of Joe Biden. He will take his chances with Warren, Sanders, Harris and the others, but he, and his team, are terrified of Biden. But it's no surprise... Biden is absolutely murdering him in the national polls and in the state polls. Trump is certain to become increasingly desperate in the coming months.
It's unfortunate this came up now. It would have been much better after Biden became the nominee because eventually this is going to come back and bite Biden right in the ass. What is an undeniable fact is that Biden personally threatened to withhold a billion dollars to the Ukraine if they didn't fire the prosecutor that was investigating the company his son was working with. This won't bring down Trump but has the ability to blow up in spectacular fashion in the face of Biden.
[QUOTE=Long Duck Dong]It's unfortunate this came up now. It would have been much better after Biden became the nominee because eventually this is going to come back and bite Biden right in the ass. What is an undeniable fact is that Biden personally threatened to withhold a billion dollars to the Ukraine if they didn't fire the prosecutor that was investigating the company his son was working with. This won't bring down Trump but has the ability to blow up in spectacular fashion in the face of Biden.[/QUOTE]
What is interesting is that the Obama administration advocated that the prosecutor in question be fired because he actually wasn't investigating anyone or anything, in spite of significant corruption... not even Hunter Biden. He wasn't fired because he was investigating anyone. The prosecutor who replaced him immediately began opening investigations into corruption.
As for Trump asking Ukraine to open up an investigation into a political opponent's son in order to hurt his political opponent... let's see if the stories of withholding financial aid are true. I imagine you'd agree that is indeed unfortunate.
[QUOTE=dude77]that coping lol .. now his daughter is getting turned out by maga .. ol barry taking big L's since '16
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Again, just telling it like it is, Barry didn't run you nerd. Had it been Obama vs Trump, he'd wipe the floor with the fat orange douche. Second, don't care to defend Obama since he was a corporate Dem, I'm just poking holes in your Trump ma[b]s[/b]turbation fantasy. He beat HC, Obama couldn't run again.
Don't worry though, next Dem POTUS will dismantle everything Trump did :cheers:
the ukrainian journalist/politician who first exposed [URL="https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/15/us/politics/paul-manafort-ukraine-donald-trump.html"][B]convicted maga felon big paulie manafort's crimes[/B][/URL] just wrote an op-ed saying he's willing to testify to the 'murrican congress against rudy g and expose his ukrainian collusion scheme.
[QUOTE]Giuliani attempted to visit Ukraine in May 2019 with the express purpose of involving Zelensky in this process. His aim was quite clear: [B]He was planning to ask Zelensky to intervene in an American election on the side of Trump.[/B]
...
By repeating this lie, Giuliani is not only deceiving American citizens. He is not only intervening in Ukrainian politics, smearing parliamentarians and officials of the presidential administration. [B]He is also trying to drag the new president of Ukraine into an American election, which is absolutely unacceptable.[/B]
I know that leaders of the three U.S. congressional committees that are now investigating the whistleblower case have asked the White House and the State Department to share all correspondence regarding the people involved in this story, including me. [B]As a person who has had direct experience of many of these events, I express my readiness to testify to the U.S. Congress about what has been happening for the past six months in the gray zone of Ukrainian-American relations.[/B]
[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/09/21/why-is-rudy-giuliani-trying-drag-my-countrys-president-into-trumps-reelection-campaign/[/url][/QUOTE]
another one.
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they never learn.
wouldn't it just be easier to [I]not[/I] commit crimes/treason, maga? :confusedshrug:
[QUOTE=SomeBlackDude]the ukrainian journalist/politician who first exposed [URL="https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/15/us/politics/paul-manafort-ukraine-donald-trump.html"][B]convicted maga felon big paulie manafort's crimes[/B][/URL] just wrote an op-ed saying he's willing to testify to the 'murrican congress against rudy g and expose his ukrainian collusion scheme.
another one.
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they never learn.
wouldn't it just be easier to [I]not[/I] commit crimes/treason, maga? :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
Still waiting on Republican senators/congressman. Has anyone said a word yet? Anything???
:biggums:
[QUOTE=bladefd]Still waiting on Republican senators/congressman. Has anyone said a word yet? Anything???
:biggums:[/QUOTE]
Kevin (Benghazi helped us bring Hillary Clinton's poll numbers down) McCarthy made a statement urging everyone to wait for the facts. When asked whether it would be necessary to have an examination of the whistleblower complaint in order to gather all the facts, Kevin (video games lead to mass shootings) McCarthy didn't have much of a response other than, again, we should wait.
Just like clockwork...
News breaks and Trump denies, fake news.
Moments later, news was misreported
later.. Well it may have been but who cares
And today...
Trump basically admits to the report.
Pelosi... does nothing
GOP does nothing
MAGAs that were claiming "fake news" tripping on themselves to flip it.
[QUOTE=andgar923]Just like clockwork...
News breaks and Trump denies, fake news.
Moments later, news was misreported
later.. Well it may have been but who cares
And today...
Trump basically admits to the report.
[/QUOTE]
someone prob informed him that recordings/transcripts of the call(s) exist so he had to switch up from 'fake news. i wouldn't be stupid enough to do that' to 'i was spied on' and 'so what if i did it?'
[QUOTE]Rebecca Ballhaus
@rebeccaballhaus
Trump CONFIRMS @wsj report that he discussed Biden w/the Ukrainian president in their July call. Says their conversation was largely congratulatory
[QUOTE]Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
And you're done....
[QUOTE]
Washington*(CNN)*—*
One source said that Inspector General Michael Atkinson referenced "a sequence of events" and "alleged actions" that took place. However, another source disputed that the IG provided substantive details regarding the whistleblower claim. The whistleblower's complaint deals at least in part with Ukraine,*The New York Times*and*Washington Post*reported Thursday night.
CNN had earlier reported, citing a source familiar with the case, that the complaint was prompted by concerns over communications between the President and a foreign leader. [B]The alleged whistleblower didn't have direct knowledge of the communications that partly prompted the complaint to the inspector general, an official briefed on the matter told CNN on Thursday. Instead, the whistleblower's concerns came in part from learning information that was not obtained during the course of their work, and those details have played a role in the administration's determination that the complaint didn't fit the reporting requirements under the intelligence whistleblower law, the official said.[/B]
The whistleblower's attorney, Andrew Bakaj, had no comment when asked about the claim that the individual did not have direct knowledge of the communication in question. When asked if the complaint deals with Ukraine, Bakaj again had no comment.
[/QUOTE]
If the "whistleblower" is in the right here his lawyer is going to be singing, not repeatedly refusing to comment.
I don't think Andgar's little heart can take this anymore. He gets his hopes up only to be crushed time and again. :oldlol:
Now, if the Republicans are smart, stay silent on this until Biden becomes the nominee then bring it up again and expose his senile, corrupt ass for using taxpayer dollars to help his son line his greedy pockets. I wouldn't be surprised if Biden was getting a kickback from his son for helping him.
[QUOTE=MaxFly]Ah... the old "I was being spied on by the deep state" angle. It's smart, and sure to work with about 95% of his supporters. Lol, just last week he said that he knew people listen in on those calls and that he would never say anything inappropriate. Now he's surprised to hear that people may have listened in on the call.[/QUOTE]
step 1: "come on now, you think i would say some stupid shit like that when i know tons of people are listening?"
[QUOTE]Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Sep 19
Another Fake News story out there - It never ends! Virtually anytime I speak on the phone to a foreign leader, I understand that there may be many people listening from various U.S. agencies, not to mention those from the other country itself. No problem!
....Knowing all of this, is anybody dumb enough to believe that I would say something inappropriate with a foreign leader while on such a potentially
[QUOTE=SomeBlackDude]someone prob informed him that recordings/transcripts of the call(s) exist[/QUOTE]
and there it is, folks.
[URL="https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/mnuchin-admits-white-house-has-transcript-of-ukraine-call-and-theyre-going-to-be-kept-confidential/"][B][U]Mnuchin admits White House has transcript of Ukraine call and
[QUOTE=SomeBlackDude]and there it is, folks.
[URL="https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/mnuchin-admits-white-house-has-transcript-of-ukraine-call-and-theyre-going-to-be-kept-confidential/"][B][U]Mnuchin admits White House has transcript of Ukraine call and
[QUOTE=Long Duck Dong]Don't worry. They'll get to the bottom of this Biden corruption scandal as soon as he's the nominee. The fortunate thing is he probably doesn't remember what happened back then any more than he remembers what he had for breakfast this morning so he should be able to lie convincingly.[/QUOTE]
damn sleepy joe has maga so shook they have to collude with the ukraine for help?
didn't know those internal polls were keeping you up at night like that.
joe hasn't had a coherent thought/sentence in like 2 years but still puts the fear of gawd into the emperor?
what a time.
[QUOTE=MaxFly]Kevin (Benghazi helped us bring Hillary Clinton's poll numbers down) McCarthy made a statement urging everyone to wait for the facts. When asked whether it would be necessary to have an examination of the whistleblower complaint in order to gather all the facts, Kevin (video games lead to mass shootings) McCarthy didn't have much of a response other than, again, we should wait.[/QUOTE]
Some more Republicans came out with statements today.
[QUOTE]Sen. Lindsey Graham told Fox News on Sunday he believes there should be an investigation into Biden — a domestic one.
“I’m calling for somebody in the Justice Department to look at all things Ukraine,” Graham said. “I’m hoping the Department of Justice will look at the Biden-Ukraine connection, like we looked at the Trump-Russia connection.”[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]While many Republicans circled the wagons, at least one — Sen. Mitt Romney — called the affair “troubling in the extreme” on Twitter, and wrote, “Critical for the facts to come out:”[/QUOTE]
So yea, they won't release transcripts. We won't find out anything else on this situation unless if someone leaks the transcript or the intelligence complaint. Another possibility is impeachment, but I don't see that happening.
The current administration is so corrupt, they make the Nixon White House look like amateur hour by comparison :lol And their supporters have the nerve to call other politicians "corrupt" :oldlol:
[QUOTE=TheMan]The current administration is so corrupt, they make the Nixon White House look like amateur hour by comparison :lol And their supporters have the nerve to call other politicians "corrupt" :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Trump was literally complaining about Biden and his son's corruption to the Ukraine PM but you guys make it seem like his complaint is the corruption part. :oldlol:
Just wait. All this shit is going to be turned around on Biden's dome. The old man is shaking in his diaper right about now.
It seems that individuals in the Ukraine are [URL="https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/how-trump-and-giuliani-pressured-ukraine-to-investigate-the-presidents-rivals/ar-AAHDaoQ"]happy to confirm the story.[/URL]
[QUOTE]U.S. Embassy officials in Kiev repeatedly expressed concerns about the contacts between Giuliani and Ukrainian officials. They have not been privy to most of the discussions, and at times, have only learned later from the Ukrainians, who said they were unsure if Giuliani was officially speaking for the U.S. government, according to two officials with knowledge of the matter.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Giuliani has alleged Biden advocated for the firing of a Ukrainian prosecutor who at one point had overseen an anti-corruption probe of the gas producer
[QUOTE=Long Duck Dong]Trump was literally complaining about Biden and his son's corruption to the Ukraine PM but you guys make it seem like his complaint is the corruption part. :oldlol:
Just wait. All this shit is going to be turned around on Biden's dome. The old man is shaking in his diaper right about now.[/QUOTE]
Trump and Giuliani repeatedly attempted to try to get the Ukrainians to launch an investigation into Hunter Biden this year[B] in order to hurt Joe Biden politically[/B]. Giuliani admitted as much, saying that before Biden takes the White House, he wants him to have to deal with the Ukraine controversy. The Trump administration only started advocating for the investigation once it became clear that Biden would run for President. They did not make any of these requests prior to the spring of this year... coincidentally when Biden announced his campaign.
What's more:
[QUOTE]the case had been dormant before the prosecutor
Is it Mueller time yet?