Round 2!

[url]https://kslsports.com/461342/jazz-look-to-take-commanding-lead-over-clippers-in-game-three/[/url]

[QUOTE]After halftime, the guard managed just 10 points on 4-13 shooting including 1-4 from the three-point line. Despite his dip in play, Mitchell insisted he was fine outside of a few bumps and bruises.

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that's the thing with the statues and Gobert. They always bring/brought it at both ends. Mitchell shows up at one end at times

[QUOTE]Time is running out for coach Tyronn Lue to solve the Jazz dangerous attack as the Clippers look to avoid falling into a 3-0 hole against Utah.

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home team hasn't lost yet

[url]https://kslsports.com/461323/stephen-a-smith-donovan-mitchell-best-player-in-jazz-history/[/url]

[QUOTE]But does Mitchell have a case to one day become the greatest payer in Jazz history? As of today, he doesn’t have the resume that either Stockton or Malone built over nearly two decades with the team.

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anything is possible but right now he's not even one of the top two on the current team

[QUOTE]However, neither Stockton nor Malone had reached Mitchell’s great heights so soon in their careers. Mitchell’s two playoff series wins are more than Malone had in his first four seasons in the NBA, and the guard did it while leading the team in scoring each of his first four seasons with the team.

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Dantley led the team Malone's rookie year

[QUOTE]Additionally, Mitchell’s four career 40-point playoff games is tied with Malone, despite playing 164 fewer postseason games than “The Mailman.” Furthermore, Mitchell has the sixth-highest scoring average in NBA postseason history, trailing only Michael Jordan, Allen Iverson, Kevin Durant, Jerry West, and LeBron James all time.

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different era

[QUOTE]So while Mitchell may not have the career accolades, nor two NBA Finals appearances like Stockton and Malone, he may well be on his path to becoming the greatest player in Jazz history as Smith proclaimed.

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He's not close to either

[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/6/11/22528221/bojan-bogdanovic-has-been-a-revelation-for-utah-jazz-on-defense-against-la-clippers-in-nba-playoffs[/url]

[QUOTE]“He is [I]so[/I] good offensively that you think of Bojan and that’s what you think,” Ingles said.

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because it's all he's shown

[QUOTE]“I think that our defense is the key in this series,” Bogdanovic said.

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nice that someone realizes it

[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/6/11/22527252/utah-jazz-have-contained-kawhi-leonard-bojan-bogdanovic-defense-nba-playoffs-takeaways-la-clippers[/url]

[QUOTE]In this clip, Clarkson is guarding Leonard and Bogdanovic leaves Reggie Jackson to double-team Leonard. It forces the ball out of Leonard’s hands.

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Reggie is hurting them. Need Mike

[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/6/11/22526548/utah-jazz-donovan-mitchell-isnt-only-jazzman-who-can-take-over-a-game-joe-ingles-bojan-bogdanovic[/url]

[QUOTE]What’s special about this Jazz team is that even with a player like Mitchell, there is so much trust, and each player on the roster is so unselfish that he doesn’t have to carry the pressure of being [I]the[/I] guy. And, Mitchell’s willingness to not always be in the spotlight actually makes him better and even more impressive.

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Clarkson and Mitchell unselfish? :lol

[url]https://kslsports.com/461342/jazz-look-to-take-commanding-lead-over-clippers-in-game-three/[/url]

[QUOTE]Michell did however shows signs that he was human in the second half of game two, either dealing with injuries to right leg or due to fatigue.

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nothing to do with adjustments the other team made or the fact that he is streaky?

Mirjam Swanson: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Quin Snyder on Conley missing Game 3 with the hammy: “It has nothing to do with us feeling any form of accomplishment having won a couple games — Mike’s not ready to go yet.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/MirjamSwanson"]Twitter MirjamSwanson[/URL]





Mirjam Swanson: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Quin Snyder on Ty Lue’s insistence that the Clippers up their physicality: “I know they were really, really aggressive — did a great job, frankly, of blocking us out. I thought they were really physical .. with Rudy on the boards, with switches[/URL]. “We have to be physical.”
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/MirjamSwanson"]Twitter MirjamSwanson[/URL]






Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Quin Snyder, on Ty Lue promising more physicality from the Clippers: “We’ve got to be physical [too]. That’s what the playoffs are about. … The biggest thing is to not look for outside help with that. If the game is being played a certain way, you have to respond.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]






Law Murray: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Quin Snyder says that his team’s spacing in particular against the Clippers zone in Game 2 was subpar[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/LawMurrayTheNU"]Twitter LawMurrayTheNU[/URL]








Mirjam Swanson: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Ty Lue on Donovan vs. Luka: “He’s faster, and it’s hard to try to blitz him, so we just gotta do a better job … one on one.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/MirjamSwanson"]Twitter MirjamSwanson[/URL]







Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Ty Lue said he’ll be making some minor adjustments for Game 2, specifically to address increasing physicality and improving 1-on-1 defense. Added he expects the Clippers to shoot better at Staples Center[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]

Andrew Greif: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]“Our confidence has not wavered. We’re not shaken,” Ty Lue says of being down 0-2 again[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/AndrewGreif"]Twitter AndrewGreif[/URL]




Mark Medina: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Clippers coach Ty Lue noted that Kawhi Leonard and PauL George could play more aggressively, but he praised them for often making the right basketball play and that everyone simply needs to make open shots[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/MarkG_Medina"]Twitter MarkG_Medina[/URL]






Melissa Rohlin: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Ty Lue on if he talks to Marcus Morris Jr. when he’s in a shooting slump: “I talk to him, tell him to make a damn shot.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/melissarohlin"]Twitter melissarohlin[/URL]







Law Murray: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Tyronn Lue says that the team went to the NBA about the illegal screens called against his team in Game 2, and the league said that the fouls against Ivica Zubac should not have been called[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/LawMurrayTheNU"]Twitter LawMurrayTheNU[/URL]







Mirjam Swanson: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Ty Lue on Serge’s season-ending surgery: “It’s tough, I talked to him, just saying, ‘Prayers, get healthy.'”[/URL]

– via [URL="https://twitter.com/MirjamSwanson"]Twitter MirjamSwanson[/URL]









Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Ty Lue said the biggest issue in Games 1 and 2 has been the Clippers’ poor 1-on-1 defense. Said they haven’t done a good enough job containing Donovan Mitchell and Jordan Clarkson, or in closing out on the Jazz’s shooters[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]

Jared Weiss: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Donovan Mitchell: “I’m good. That’s all I got for you. I’m good.[/URL] The situation happened. I felt like I was good to come back, but no need to risk it down 18. Time to rest up and get ready for the next game.”

– via [URL="https://twitter.com/JaredWeissNBA"]Twitter JaredWeissNBA[/URL]




With the game slipping away from the Jazz, Mitchell had a conversation with coach Quin Snyder. He did not return to the game, although the Utah medical staff had cleared him to return. [URL="https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31622165/utah-jazz-donovan-mitchell-exits-ankle-pain-says-ready-game-4"]“He’s in good shape,” Snyder said. “He could have gone back in the game, but at that point, the lead had stretched.[/URL] In fact, while we were talking, I think Kawhi hit a 3. That was my decision not to put him back in at that point. The game had gotten away from us at that point, but he’s fine.”
– via [URL="https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31622165/utah-jazz-donovan-mitchell-exits-ankle-pain-says-ready-game-4"]Tim MacMahon @ ESPN[/URL]






[URL="https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31622610/paul-george-sets-tone-bounce-back-effort-la-clippers-rout-utah-jazz-needed-game-3-win"]When asked what his relationship is with Ingles, George said, “I don’t care about him. Next question.” For the Clippers, there is no question how good they can be when George and Leonard shift their games to another level like they did on Saturday.[/URL] Not only did they combine to make 26 of 48 shots but they also took the challenge of slowing down Donovan Mitchell. While Mitchell finished with 30 points before tweaking his sore right ankle, he was held scoreless for the first 16 minutes and 26 seconds of the game. After contesting 71% of his field goal attempts in the first two Jazz wins, the Clippers contested all but one of Mitchell’s 24 shots in Game 3, according to ESPN Stats & Information research.
– via [URL="https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31622610/paul-george-sets-tone-bounce-back-effort-la-clippers-rout-utah-jazz-needed-game-3-win"]Ohm Youngmisuk @ ESPN[/URL]

[url]https://kslsports.com/461405/clippers-beat-jazz-in-must-win-game-three/[/url]

[QUOTE]The Clippers showed the same resolve against the Jazz in game three, avoiding an 0-3 hole, and shifting the pressure back onto Utah to steal a game in LA, or otherwise return home with the series evened up at two games apiece.

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pressure is on LA. Jazz have home court. Best home team in league

[QUOTE]Though Mitchell said he could have returned had the game been closer, the Jazz face a stark reality that they won’t have a healthy lead ball-handler for the rest of the playoffs. Mitchell has labored with his injury at least one point in every game since returning against the Memphis Grizzlies in the opening round.

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good thing he forced his way back on to the court :facepalm

[QUOTE]The Jazz have built their identity around the three-point shot this season, but it was from inside the arc where the Jazz lost game three to the Clippers.

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defense lost it :facepalm

[QUOTE]Bogdanovic had his worst game of the series, scoring just nine points on 2-10 shooting despite getting several open looks inside the three-point line.

Jordan Clarkson also had his worst outing of the series, connecting on just 1-7 field-goal from two-point range.

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and coty stuck with them

[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/6/12/22528751/donovan-mitchell-says-that-hes-fine-but-its-clear-that-he-playing-through-some-pain-injury-utah-jazz[/url]

[QUOTE] [h=1]Donovan Mitchell says that he’s fine, but it’s clear that he’s playing through some pain[/h]
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Maybe he'll let the medical staff do their job next time instead of forcing his way onto the floor when he's not ready.

[QUOTE]“It’s part of the game,” Rudy Gobert said. “There is going to be some pain, but as long as it doesn’t get worse, and he’s still able to move and to play, hopefully it will be okay. I think he’s doing everything he can to try to be out there even though sometimes it might be painful.”

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does seem to be getting worse though no?

[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/6/12/22528750/analysis-utah-jazz-drop-game-3-la-clippers-donovan-mitchell-paul-george-kawhi-leonard-nba-playoffs[/url]

[QUOTE]The Jazz had a horrible night when it comes to ball movement and execution. There was a ton of iso ball, the Jazz assisted on just 15 of their 36 made shots (84 field goal attempts) and had 16 turnovers.

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Mitchell and Clarkson. What everyone loves! :cheers:

[QUOTE]Georges Niang had one good lob pass to Rudy Gobert, but that barely made up for his one really bad lob, and it certainly didn’t make up for his missed shots and poor decision making. It was a rough night for Niang.

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and COTY pulled him. Why won't he pull anyone else when they suck?

[QUOTE]Miye Oni isn’t ready for this.

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and yet he's playing instead of Ersan or trying something else

Didn't really mention the horrible D which was the game

Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/IAMCAKEMAN"]IAMCAKEMAN[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/6/12/22531488/utah-jazz-lose-game-3-to-the-los-angeles-clippers-nba-playoffs-donovan-mitchell-paul-george#541312594"]Jun 13, 2021 | 11:14 AM[/URL]

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You don't know that. They are better defensively and the ball movement is better without Mitchell

[QUOTE]I doubt it but think Quin should consider playing Ersan who has more experience.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/CJ%20Livinghousen"]CJ Livinghousen[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/6/12/22531488/utah-jazz-lose-game-3-to-the-los-angeles-clippers-nba-playoffs-donovan-mitchell-paul-george#541306020"]Jun 13, 2021 | 12:39 AM[/URL]
[/QUOTE] [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/6/12/22531488/utah-jazz-lose-game-3-to-the-los-angeles-clippers-nba-playoffs-donovan-mitchell-paul-george#541306020"]

ersan should play regardless but won't

[/URL][QUOTE][URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/6/12/22531488/utah-jazz-lose-game-3-to-the-los-angeles-clippers-nba-playoffs-donovan-mitchell-paul-george#541306020"]
[/URL][URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/6/12/22531488/utah-jazz-lose-game-3-to-the-los-angeles-clippers-nba-playoffs-donovan-mitchell-paul-george#541306020"]The five minutes before halftime he took the shot the first time he had the ball no matter where he and the other options were. Running up and down the court constantly with playoff intensity is tough, doing it for nothing several times in a row even more.
He played to keep his playoff average, not to win.
The minutes management was logical. [/URL] Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/Bigfee"]Bigfee[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/6/12/22531488/utah-jazz-lose-game-3-to-the-los-angeles-clippers-nba-playoffs-donovan-mitchell-paul-george#541306552"]Jun 13, 2021 | 3:25 AM[/URL]

[URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/6/12/22531488/utah-jazz-lose-game-3-to-the-los-angeles-clippers-nba-playoffs-donovan-mitchell-paul-george#541306020"]

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best player in Jazz history!

[QUOTE] You straight up say that he was stat hunting implying that he cares more about his stats than wining. That is one of the worst takes I’ve ever heard. He was cooking during that quarter. The game got away because the Jazz could not make a stop.

You think he was playing hero ball in the 2nd half of the 1st game when he did the same thing and led them to victory. Do you think Kawhi was playing hero ball at one point when he scored something like 14 straight for the Clips and no one else took a shot?

Implying that the best offensive player is selfish is just playing stupid when he has shown nothing in his career to show that. Saying that he should have gotten his teammates more involved is true, saying he is stat hunting is wrong.

I actually thought his reads were good in the 2nd quarter. Thought they were bad on his drives in the 4th.

Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/Patdatass"]Patdatass[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/6/12/22531488/utah-jazz-lose-game-3-to-the-los-angeles-clippers-nba-playoffs-donovan-mitchell-paul-george#541309503"]Jun 13, 2021 | 8:37 AM[/URL]

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Kawai plays D. If Mitchell was all about winning he would too
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And offensively we continue to play 4 on 5. He had 2 flipping baskets off of assists and they were both from passes by the much criticized Niang. Donny, JC, Joe, Bogie can’t throw him a lob? How much is him not fighting strong for position, or guys not looking, or our spacing, or them just clogging passing lanes I don’t know. But we gotta do better.

Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/SKMike"]SKMike[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/6/12/22531488/utah-jazz-lose-game-3-to-the-los-angeles-clippers-nba-playoffs-donovan-mitchell-paul-george#541308118"]Jun 13, 2021 | 7:13 AM[/URL]

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JC and Mitchell don't pass except when the end of the quarter clock is running out. Bojan is better off not passing. Easier to just take a 3!

[QUOTE]The Jazz have to prove that they are not a flawed team in the playoffs, including the coaches (so much tougher to do without Conley). Leonard had 12 rebounds, Rudy only had 10. That can’t happen again.

I haven’t lost all hope yet, but this series is probably going back to SLC tied 2/2.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/PlayfasterJazz"]PlayfasterJazz[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/6/12/22531488/utah-jazz-lose-game-3-to-the-los-angeles-clippers-nba-playoffs-donovan-mitchell-paul-george#541308747"]Jun 13, 2021 | 7:56 AM[/URL]

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they are flawed and it starts with COTY

[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/6/12/22531488/utah-jazz-lose-game-3-to-the-los-angeles-clippers-nba-playoffs-donovan-mitchell-paul-george[/url]

[QUOTE][INDENT] Donovan Mitchell, when asked about Mike Conley's in game interactions: "He's helping me with making reads. We gotta get Bojan more involved. … Tonight, I was quick to force up some shots, and I’m not proud of it. And [Mike] pointed that out to me."
— Eric Walden (@tribjazz) [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz/status/1403921395642425351?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"]June 13, 2021[/URL] [/INDENT]
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always talks a big game afterwards but it never translates to the next game

[QUOTE]Mitchell is obviously playing through pain. Will playing through the injury be easier with Conley? The Jazz can hope and hopefully that leads to Mitchell playing off ball more. At least, that’s what Jazz fans are hoping for, but time will tell if Conley plays in Game 4. Him traveling with the team seems like a good sign of him playing, but the Jazz are being very careful with Conley to make sure they don’t aggravate the injury. Perhaps being up 2-1 now will provide more pressure to get him on the floor.

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Mitchell off ball would certainly be ideal oh and Clarkson at the end of the bench!

[QUOTE]Finally, we need to talk about Rudy Gobert’s minutes. Obviously the Jazz cleared their bench when the game got out of hand, but Rudy Gobert ended with 29 minutes. It’s just unacceptable. This was probably Rudy Gobert’s worst game of the playoffs and it’s still better having him out there than Derrick Favors who has now had 2 incredibly rough games in a row. Rudy Gobert should be playing no less then 36 minutes per game and should really be around 40. It nearly cost the Jazz last game if it weren’t for some incredible shots by Jordan Clarkson and Joe Ingles when the Jazz were down two with minutes left. What is Quin Snyder waiting for? This is it, there is nothing else to wait for, if you don’t play your best guys now, you may not get a chance in the future. And we’ve seen what happens with this stubbornness in the past to play outside of rote-tations. The Jazz gave up a 3-1 lead to the Nuggets. Gobert has to do his part to be his most effective when he’s on the floor, and he wasn’t good enough tonight, but Quin Snyder also needs to keep him out there longer. Gobert is a future hall of famer, the DPOY, and affects everything. It doesn’t matter how effective your system is, how creative your ATO plays are, if you don’t have your best players on the floor, it makes it all meaningless.

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it was all Tony Bradley's fault!

[QUOTE][B]Oni and Niang Have Been Gargbage This Series[/B]

If Conley comes back healthy, hopefully Oni wont get anymore minutes and Niang’s will be reduced, they have been hot garbage this series.


Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/ArcticSlicer"]ArcticSlicer[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/6/12/22531488/utah-jazz-lose-game-3-to-the-los-angeles-clippers-nba-playoffs-donovan-mitchell-paul-george#541305749"]Jun 12, 2021 | 11:46 PM[/URL]

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too bad coach won't try anything else

[QUOTE] But I believe that Conley’s absence from the lineup is largely due to an overabundance of caution.

We saw this in play with Donovan in the first round. The Jazz deemed themselves to be the superior team without him, so why risk playing him and risk reinjuring their star player.

I think the same attitude applies here. I think the Jazz will sit Conley until they believe the risk of losing the series outweighs the risk of making the injury worse and him not being available in a future series.
The fact is, playoff basketball is more intense featuring better competition. Especially in the western conference where any team is capable of beating another if they do not demonstrate proper respect for their opponent.

I believe Conley is still injured… but I also believe he could play. The question is not so much about his health, but more about how much the Jazz fear their opponent and the potential of not advancing to the next round.

Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/I'mJazzed"]I'mJazzed[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/6/12/22531488/utah-jazz-lose-game-3-to-the-los-angeles-clippers-nba-playoffs-donovan-mitchell-paul-george#541310185"]Jun 13, 2021 | 9:11 AM[/URL]

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we're seeing it right now. What if Mitchell had waited until the medical team cleared him instead of forcing himself back on to the court? Would he be having problems every game with his ankle? They didn't need him to beat Memphis. Maybe it would have taken more game but they were going down

[QUOTE][B]Maybe they were wrong.[/B]

We sweep the Grizz (obviously not a guarantee), We get an additional two days off between series, and most importantly, Conley doesn’t get hurt in Game 5.

[QUOTE] Zach Padmore: Per his Instagram story, [URL="http://twitter.com/ZP12Hoops/status/1403448456438497286"]Nah’Shon “Bones” Hyland had a pre-draft workout with the Utah Jazz.[/URL] One of the best three-point shooters in the 2021 NBA Draft.

– via [URL="http://twitter.com/ZP12Hoops/status/1403448456438497286"]Twitter[/URL]


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who's doing the workouts now?

pg which is what they should be looking at unless they think Forrest will develop a jumper. 2nd rounder it sounds like though

Mirjam Swanson: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Nicolas Batum says he loves playing with Rudy Gobert when they’re teammates for Team France: “I know I have this big guy protecting, just in case.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/MirjamSwanson"]Twitter MirjamSwanson[/URL]




Mirjam Swanson: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Ty Lue: “We can’t go down 10-0, 14-3, we can’t continue to dig ourselves a hole….[/URL] we gotta do a better job of that.”
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/MirjamSwanson"]Twitter MirjamSwanson[/URL]






Andrew Greif: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Ty Lue says of friend and assistant Chauncey Billups, a candidate for several head coaching openings, “he’s ready” to take over a team[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/AndrewGreif"]Twitter AndrewGreif[/URL]







Mirjam Swanson: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Ty Lue on his assistant coach/good buddy Chauncey Billups: “I wanted to coach with him when I was in Cleveland but he didn’t want to coach. I tease him all the time, he missed out on $15-18 million dollars”[/URL] because he would’ve been a head coach for a few seasons already.

– via [URL="https://twitter.com/MirjamSwanson"]Twitter MirjamSwanson[/URL]

Law Murray: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Nicolas Batum on limiting Rudy Gobert’s impact: “He’s got three trophies in four years! No one has figured it out yet!”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/LawMurrayTheNU"]Twitter LawMurrayTheNU[/URL]




Eric Walden: Clippers’ Nic [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Batum said his job in this series to put Rudy Gobert into unfamiliar situations and take him away from the hoop. Said his national-team familiarity with Rudy and his friendship don’t make it any easier,[/URL] because Rudy “is the best in the league” defensively.

– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]







Mirjam Swanson: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Nicolas Batum on his comfort playing at the 5: “It’s new for me… so I’m learning, a learning process for me during the playoff.[/URL] I just do my best to make life easier for my two superstars. And Reggie and Luke.”
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/MirjamSwanson"]Twitter MirjamSwanson[/URL]

[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50185511/from-the-comments-stepping-away-from-the-ledge-after-the-jazzs-game-3-loss[/url]

[QUOTE]The Clippers told Utah the game plan ahead of Game 3. Before the game, Lue said that whenever Derrick Favors is on the court, they are going to right at him. The result? The Jazz finished with a defensive rating of 169 in the 15 minutes Favors players. That's pretty awful. Actually, it's more than awful.

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but I thought it was Bradley's fault?

[QUOTE]Favors has scored just 4 points in the entire series. What's worse? He's not even the least productive bench player for the Jazz. Georges Niang has only 3 points this series and hasn't made a shot since Game 1. Miye Oni, meanwhile, hasn't scored in over 20 minutes of game action.

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and COTY does nothing different

[QUOTE]If that's all Utah's getting, then Snyder may just consider changing up some rotations — something he has been hesitant to do this season. To their benefit, the Jazz have had one of the most consistent rotations in the NBA. But as seen by the Clippers, who seemed to have found something by adding Patrick Beverly and Terrence Mann to the rotation as the series has gone on, sometimes change can provide a spark.

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especially when you have better players not playing

[QUOTE]Gobert is averaging 33 minutes in the series — a number that could go up. He struggled in Game 3, too, but Gobert's been Utah's best player for much of the season. The Jazz could also look at Ersan Ilyasova, who has had plenty of playoff experience. He's not going to solve any defensive issues, but he might provide more of an offensive punch than what the Jazz are getting.

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I like his D, He's physical and smart

[QUOTE]Trent Forrest? Juwan Morgan? Matt Thomas? Playing an already banged-up team more minutes? The best options might just be to hope Niang and Favors are better.

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Morgan and Brantley

[url]https://kslsports.com/461445/clippers-look-to-even-series-in-game-four-against-jazz/[/url]

[QUOTE]Game four’s key matchup will pair the Jazz’s Joe Ingles against the Clippers Jackson. Ingles has been a major spark for the Jazz in games two and three, averaging 19 points, 4.0 rebounds, and 3.0 assists while shooting a staggering 62 percent from the floor and 60 percent from the three-point line.

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I imagine Mitchell and Clarkson spend most of the time on Jackson where Conley is obviously missed big time

[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/6/13/22530145/what-the-utah-jazz-need-to-improve-on-in-game-4-against-the-la-clippers-nba-playoffs[/url]

[QUOTE]And there were a few instances when Mitchell drove into three defenders and took an ill-advised shot in the lane.

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he's good at that!

[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/6/13/22530147/how-the-la-clippers-are-feeling-after-game-3-victory-over-the-utah-jazz-nba-playoffs[/url]

[QUOTE]“We talk about it and we have to do something,” Nic Batum said Sunday. “We have to adjust right away. We can’t wait being down eight, 10, 12, depends, whatever, before we get a reaction. To be up 10, that would be nice...so we have to work on that and not put ourselves in a bad position by doing that.”

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especially against a team that's usually on the other end of that at least to start the game

[url]https://hoopshabit.com/2021/06/12/utah-jazz-3-crucial-goals-playoff-run/2/[/url]

[QUOTE][h=2]Utah Jazz playoff goals No. 1: Force more turnovers[/h][/QUOTE]

not what they do

[QUOTE][h=2]Utah Jazz playoff goals No. 2: Keep feeding Mitchell and Clarkson[/h][/QUOTE]

recipe for disaster

[QUOTE][h=2]Utah Jazz playoff goals No. 3: Keep their best players on the floor[/h][/QUOTE]

that's not happening obviously and won't

[URL="https://theathletic.com/2652116/2021/06/15/without-mike-conley-jazz-struggle-against-clippers-series-now-tied/?source=rss"]“I think we have to take some of the things that we did do well and we have to find a way to replicate them,” Jazz coach Quin Snyder said. “I think it’s hard to give up 38 free throws and overcome some of the things that we did tonight.[/URL] In order to do that, we have to be perfect on the other end, and we weren’t that, either. I think we were playing hard, but we weren’t playing smart. And we weren’t connected, and that showed in the 13-point first quarter. We didn’t put ourselves in situations to be successful.”
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/2652116/2021/06/15/without-mike-conley-jazz-struggle-against-clippers-series-now-tied/?source=rss"]Tony Jones @ The Athletic[/URL]







The Clippers would outscore the Jazz 18-1 on second-chance points and completely shut them out on the fast break, outscoring the Jazz there 12-0. It’s the first time all season that the Jazz failed to score a single point on the fast break. [URL="https://theathletic.com/2652116/2021/06/15/without-mike-conley-jazz-struggle-against-clippers-series-now-tied/?source=rss"]That more than offset yet another night where the Jazz made more 3s than the Clippers (17-of-42 for Jazz, 15-of-37 for Clippers). “Just paying attention to detail, I thought was great,” Lue said. “They made some desperation 3s to get them back in the game a little bit.[/URL] Overall, I loved where we were at, I loved our physicality and I loved the way we battled.”
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/2652116/2021/06/15/without-mike-conley-jazz-struggle-against-clippers-series-now-tied/?source=rss"]Tony Jones @ The Athletic[/URL]

[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50186279/jazz-clippers-live-blog-3-takeaways-from-utahs-series-equalizing-loss-to-la[/url]

[QUOTE][B]1. Don't blame Donovan[/B]

After a horrific start, Mitchell took a 29-point deficit and slowly whittled it down to 14 midway through the third quarter. The Louisville product tapped his recovering ankle several times during the spurt, but stayed in the game and shot close to 40% through three quarters.

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close to 40% wow! :lol

[url]https://kslsports.com/461519/disconnected-jazz-fall-to-surging-clippers-in-game-four/[/url]

[QUOTE]Donovan Mitchell led the Jazz with 37 points but shot just 9-26 from the floor and 6-15 from the three-point line as the Jazz offense struggled to find a consistent rhythm throughout the game.

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first time I've read 9-26 is not great! :facepalm

[QUOTE]Over the last two games, these are plus-minus totals for each Jazz player:

[B]Bogdanovic: -25[/B]

[B]O’Neale: -28[/B]

[B]Gobert: -17[/B]
[B]Ingles: -8[/B]
[B]Mitchell: -25[/B]
[B]Clarkson: -40[/B]
[B]Favors: -20[/B]
[B]Niang: -20[/B]

[B]Oni: -5[/B]

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and COTY changes nothing!

[QUOTE]Snyder meanwhile doesn’t have that luxury for the Jazz. With Conley out of the lineup, the Jazz coach is left picking between second-year, second-round draft pick Miye Oni as his ninth-man, or Trest Forrest, a rookie who joined the Jazz as an undrafted free agent on a two-way contract to serve as the fourth guard in the rotation.

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Ersan, Morgan, Brantley... He has the luxury of playing better guys for sure. I thought they were the deepest team in the league?

[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/6/15/22530328/the-jazzs-inability-to-keep-the-clippers-off-the-offensive-glass-was-a-huge-problem-in-game-4[/url]

[QUOTE]“Defensive rebounding is usually a collective effort and combination of initial awareness and urgency,” Snyder said. “I didn’t think we were as locked in on that.”

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try playing someone at the 4 for a change?

[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/6/15/22530172/analysis-la-clippers-evened-series-with-utah-jazz-by-mounting-an-early-lead[/url]

[QUOTE]The Jazz tried a couple of different defensive looks, a couple of zone formations that seemed to have some success, and also some different offensive strategies, with Joe Ingles and Bojan Bogdanovic running up top and Mitchell working more off the ball. Changing things up like this seemed to give them a little bit of an edge, if only for a moment.

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too little too late COTY

[QUOTE]The Jazz were able to cut 10 points off the Clippers’ 24-point halftime lead in large part because of the activity of Gobert, but then head coach Quin Snyder went with his usual sub pattern of taking Gobert out at the 6:36 mark in the third. The Clippers immediately pushed the lead back to 20 points. There was some concern with Gobert’s foul situation (he had four at the time) but it’s also fair to wonder whether Snyder would be willing to ride out Gobert for 40 minutes, which he hasn’t seemed to be willing to do.

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why change what isn't working?

[QUOTE]Jordan Clarkson’s shot selection in the first half in particular was atrocious. Adding insult to injury, his reads were about five seconds too late. I’m always hesitant to criticize Clarkson when he is missing shots, especially if they are wide open or rhythm looks because that’s who the Jazz want him to be. But the Jazz don’t want him to be the guy that takes off-balance, contested mid-range shots, or takes shots that are too early when there is another guy more open and in better position.

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same shots he always takes

[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50187181/rudy-gobert-named-to-all-nba-third-team-as-donovan-mitchell-left-off[/url]

[QUOTE]Mitchell was worthy of a spot on a team. He averaged 26.8 points per game on 43.8% from the field and a career-high 38.6% from 3. He averaged career highs in assists at 5.2 and rebounds at 4.4. And did it all with one of the highest usages in the league.

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no he wasn't. That's why he was 9th

[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50186933/from-the-comments-mike-conleys-past-shows-that-if-he-can-play-he-will[/url]

[QUOTE]There's a lot of blame to go around for how Game 4 went. Bojan Bogdanovic no-showed the first half; Joe Ingles wasn't the secondary playmaker the Jazz desperately needed; Royce O'Neale backpedaled out of plays — screened or not; Rudy Gobert lost too many rebounding battles to smaller players; and even Donovan Mitchell spent too many possessions dribbling and not looking for an out.

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and even! :facepalm

[QUOTE]When Conley went down, the Jazz's only answer was [URL="https://www.ksl.com/article/50186471/its-tough-but-it-is-what-it-is-donovan-mitchell-has-been-forced-to-carry-unusual-burden-in-2nd-round"]putting more of a load on Mitchell[/URL]? That's not great. The Clippers' five-out attack is causing major headaches, and Utah doesn't have any other looks it can throw out there? Ditto.

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they do but won't

[QUOTE]Two-way guard Trent Forrest? Two-way forward Jarrell Brantley? Little-used Juwan Morgan? Matt Thomas? Ersan İlyasova? Utah's end of the roster is full of players who would be far more comfortable in the NBA G League than trying to line up against the Clippers.

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bullshit

[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/6/15/22530328/the-jazzs-inability-to-keep-the-clippers-off-the-offensive-glass-was-a-huge-problem-in-game-4[/url]

[QUOTE]The Clippers scored 18 points on the second-chance opportunities created by rebounds. The Jazz, meanwhile, scored just a one second-chance point, never hitting a field goal generated by an offensive board.

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Imagine playing Ersan, Morgan and/or Brantley :facepalm

[QUOTE]In the below clip you’ll see that the third quarter clock is winding down and the Jazz are clearly concerned with paying attention to Leonard, who has the ball. While Rudy Gobert does try to keep his position on Ivica Zubac, there’s more concern for what Leonard will do at the third-quarter buzzer than what Zubac will do if there is enough time.

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that's what happens when you expect one guy to stop the whole team by himself while the best player in franchise history rests up to shoot again

[url]https://saltcityhoops.com/staff-scrimmage-jazz-clips-at-2-2-plus-potential-series-turning-points/[/url]

[QUOTE]Too often on Monday, the entire concept of offense for the Jazz stopped besides whoever had the ball, and this lone active member was attempting to dribble past or away from one, two, or even three Clipper defenders. The Jazz typically welcome a defense snding two or more men to the ball, as it often initiates the proverbial blender. This time, the Clippers were fiendish about sitting on passing lanes to take away that easy pass off the ball. Against that defense, the Jazz should have shown to the ball or set screens to help make those passes and kickstart the blender. Gobert loves setting the biggest screens in the league, but rarely helped to clear off one (or both!) of the two defenders engaged in a double-team. To the extent it is the ballhandler’s responsibility to call for Gobert’s assistance in this capacity, they failed to do so. And when the Clippers didn’t send a double-team to the ball, an isolation opportunity apparated in lieu of any functional offensive movement. In the first quarter interview, Snyder lamented the lack of “pick and roll[s] with our five man.” Where were the Ingles/Mitchell-Gobert pick-and-rolls that have been so deadly for literally the entire goddamn season? If the Clippers switched that action, that’s still a useful product that could have been built upon, but wasn’t.

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Yep. Been a lot less Gobert screens all year. More Clarkson/Mitchell iso

[QUOTE]Those are the final scores of last year’s Round 1 Series between the Jazz and Nuggets. If you’d asked me after games 2 and 3 if the Jazz had “solved” the Nuggets, I probably would have said they obviously had. Especially after that 124-87 beat down in Game 3. But that’s not how series between closely matched teams work. The scores in Round 1 between the Clippers and Mavericks are similar, it looked like the Clippers had everything figured out after a blow-out win in Game 4 before the Mavericks came back to win Game 5. There are ebbs and flows to playoff series and things can change drastically from one game to another. Plus, home court advantage is a thing. So I guess I’m fully on “new series, bring it on!” especially if Conley returns for Game 5 or 6.

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well Malone went big and Snyder did nothing just like Lue made changes until something worked and again COTY has done nothing

[QUOTE][B]Jake[/B]: I liked what I saw out of Gobert. It’s incredible to me that the Clippers are doing everything they can to take him out of the picture both on offense and defense, yet he’s finding ways to affect the game. Last night, for example, Gobert finished +0 in a game the Jazz lost by 14 points. The fact of the matter is that Snyder needs to play Gobert more minutes or Derrick Favors needs to return to his Games 1-2 prowess. If neither of those things change, I don’t see how Utah moves to the next round.

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He needs to try some other bench guys as well

[QUOTE][B]Zarin[/B]: Ingles had a team-high +4 and shot 7-for-9 from the field. If Conley remains out, Snyder may need to experiment with rotations to keep one of Ingles or Mitchell on the floor at all times. That may even require starting Jordan Clarkson, a move Snyder has only made three times.

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yeah more JC is the answer :roll:

[QUOTE][B]Dan[/B]: It took a 29-point deficit for them to get desperate enough to try it, but the Jazz finally decided to [URL="https://twitter.com/danclayt0n/status/1404879326953152512"]let Rudy be Rudy[/URL]. They decided midway through G4 that unleashing Gobert’s interior defensive impact is worth it even if that means just leaving a Clipper (usually Nic Batum) wide open. Gobert was +15 in 21 minutes of second-half action, and this gives Utah a way to counter the Clipper’s attempts to tug him outside with 5-shooter lineups. (Also, great that Ingles finally got going after an otherwise very pedestrian series.)

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and they got him involved offensively which opens up everything else instead of just settling for a long jumper

[QUOTE][B]Jake[/B]: Mike won’t be super helpful on defense, though I’m sure he’ll surprise a few people that, despite his size, he can still affect shots and get into people. The biggest impact he’ll have is simply controlling the game in a calm, decisive manner. The way he can do that is breaking the paint and then kickstarting the blender. Mitchell and Clarkson haven’t consistently been able to pass out of their drives. This would not only help strengthen Utah’s rotations (pushing Ingles back to the bench), but it allows Mitchell to play off-ball, tapping into one of his best assets: his catch-and-shoot 3-pointer.

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D is where he'll help most since Reggie has killed them and Mitchell won't pass him the ball at the other end

[QUOTE][B]Jake[/B]: Most will probably think offensively for this question, but I think we’re going to need either Ingles and/or Bogdanovic to slow Kawhi or PG down. If those two Clippers stars both have good games, the Clippers are nearly impossible to beat. They’ve had great Games 3-4. Also, assuming Snyder stays with mid-30s minute totals for Gobert, Favors can really have an impact on this series. While Clippers aren’t really driving into the paint when Gobert is on the court, they are when Favors is. If he can have a positive impact on the game or even a neutral one, that can win a game for you.

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but it was Bradley's fault!

[QUOTE]And so this is less of a Gobert thing than an “everybody else” thing, but I will say that if the ball starts going his way, the Clippers have absolutely no answer for Gobert at the rim. He needs to be ready and engaged, and not commit turnovers or hesitate.

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but who will pass him the ball :facepalm

[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/6/16/22536279/utah-jazz-minutes-problem-nba-playoffs-2021-rudy-gobert[/url]

[QUOTE]Interestingly enough, Gobert did play more minutes last season in the playoffs. Against the [URL="https://www.denverstiffs.com"]Denver Nuggets[/URL], with Tony Bradley as his backup, Gobert averaged 38.6 minutes played. He even logged games of 42, 42 and 41 minutes. So he is definitely capable of playing a heavier load. And as we all know, in Game 7 against the Nuggets the Jazz lost by 2 points. Gobert was a +6 in that game. Are you seeing a pattern here? Perhaps if he had played into the 40-minute range the Jazz have a different story last season. We’ll never know.

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Bubble was different and they don't lose anything with Favors! :lol

[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/latest-utah-jazz-news-recent/2021/6/15/22536016/rudy-gobert-named-to-all-nba-3rd-team-donovan-mitchell-snubbed[/url]

[QUOTE]The best team in the league somehow got their with just a 3rd-Team All NBA guy

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Conley was hurt though I doubt that would have mattered

[QUOTE] Law Murray: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Snyder says that Jazz “found something” in second half of Game 4;[/URL] namely, being more decisive and committed to principles.

– via [URL="https://twitter.com/LawMurrayTheNU"]Twitter LawMurrayTheNU[/URL]





Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Quin Snyder, discussing the breakdown of minutes at the 5: “Rudy needs to keep himself out of foul trouble,[/URL] we need to help him stay out of foul trouble, because we need him.”
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]


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you need to get a clue

[url]https://kslsports.com/461639/with-kawhi-leonard-out-how-much-should-jazz-adjust-gameplan/[/url]

[QUOTE]Now with Leonard out of the lineup, the Jazz must ask themselves, do they proceed with the adjustments they made to counter a lineup featuring a top-five player in the world, or go back to their own gameplan, understanding they have the upper hand in talent with Leonard off the floor?

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same. Move the ball and defend. Usually brings good things

[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/6/16/22530361/game-5-preview-three-things-that-could-impact-game-between-utah-jazz-la-clippers-kawhi-favors[/url]

[QUOTE]What Quin Snyder decides to do with the non-Gobert minutes could be the deciding move in this series. He could extend Gobert’s playing time and choose to go with a small-ball lineup to match what the Clippers do when Gobert is not on the floor, he could choose to continue with his current rotation or he could do a combination of all these options.

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he could do lots of things but won't

[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/06/16/utah-jazz-mike-conley-final-game-jazzman/[/url]

be stupid not to bring him back. 2nd best player. The main reason for their jump this year

[url]https://fansided.com/2021/06/15/nba-robbed-jayson-tatum-donovan-mitchell-33-million/[/url]

[QUOTE]Mitchell and Tatum each had career-best years in their fourth NBA seasons, averaging 26.4 points apiece. Tatum accomplished [URL="https://fansided.com/2021/05/29/celtics-jayson-tatum-50-point-performance-historic-multiple-ways/"]historic scoring feats[/URL] down the stretch and Mitchell lead the Jazz to the best record in the NBA. A nice bonus for their efforts would have been fitting, but instead, NBA media voting just robbed two of their brightest young stars of $33 million.

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13-6 without him but he led! :facepalm

[QUOTE] Tony Jones: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Donovan Mitchell on his ankle: For the first time in my life, I’ve had to play on the floor. I…I can’t really move[/URL]

– via [URL="https://twitter.com/Tjonesonthenba"]Twitter Tjonesonthenba[/URL]





Sarah Todd: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Donovan Mitchell is clearly frustrated and emotional (rightly so)[/URL] about the situation that he’s in and that it’s all happening during the playoffs. Feel for the guy.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/NBASarah"]Twitter NBASarah[/URL]






Tim MacMahon: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Donovan Mitchell on pain in his ankle and lack of explosiveness: “It’s something I’m going to have to deal with [the rest of the playoffs]. It f—ing sucks.[/URL] … You’ve got to find a way to make it happen. It’s tough, but I’ve got to find a way. Otherwise, I’m going to be home.”
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon"]Twitter espn_macmahon[/URL]

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maybe you'll listen to the doctors next time instead of forcing your way on the floor