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[QUOTE=Ne 1;14697214]Howard is a champion.. not a career loser.
Also multi time DPOY.
Wade had Shaq.. Lebron never had anything like that.
After Shaq fell off, Wade was a complete loser for 4 years, never making the playoffs, being swept, and knocked out of the first round.. until he asked Lebron to help him.[/QUOTE]
Howard was a career loser. Lebron had Shaq and made round 2. Wade had Shaq and won the title.
[QUOTE=kawhileonard2;14697461]Howard was a career loser. Lebron had Shaq and made round 2. Wade had Shaq and won the title.[/QUOTE]
LeBron had old, fat, 1-year-away-from-retirement Shaq
OP: Compares LeBron to T-Mac aka Stacy McLady aka the biggest loser ever for a superstar
Also OP: Says Dwight is a career loser
Make it make sense
[QUOTE=SaltyMeatballs;14697464]LeBron had old, fat, 1-year-away-from-retirement Shaq[/QUOTE]
Shaq won allstar mvp the year before and outplayed Lebron in pivotal game 5. [url]https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201005110CLE.html[/url]
This was a Shaq who had 3 finals mvp's, league mvp at that.
[QUOTE=kawhileonard2;14697469]Shaq won allstar mvp the year before and outplayed Lebron in pivotal game 5. [url]https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201005110CLE.html[/url]
This was a Shaq who had 3 finals mvp's, league mvp at that.[/QUOTE]
09-10 Shaq could barely run and move. Stop being stupid and comparing Cavs Shaq to Heat Shaq. And the ASG MVP doesn't mean anything
[QUOTE=SaltyMeatballs;14697475]09-10 Shaq could barely run and move. Stop being stupid and comparing Cavs Shaq to Heat Shaq. And the ASG MVP doesn't mean anything[/QUOTE]
Shaq won allstar mvp the year before and outplayed Lebron in pivotal game 5. [url]https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201005110CLE.html[/url]
This was a Shaq who had 3 finals mvp's, league mvp at that.
He outplayed Lebron. Won allstar game mvp. Tough to do.
[QUOTE=kawhileonard2;14697490]Shaq won allstar mvp the year before and outplayed Lebron in pivotal game 5. [url]https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201005110CLE.html[/url]
This was a Shaq who had 3 finals mvp's, league mvp at that.[/QUOTE]
09-10 Shaq could barely run and move. Stop being stupid and comparing Cavs Shaq to Heat Shaq. And the ASG MVP doesn't mean anything
[QUOTE=SaltyMeatballs;14697492]09-10 Shaq could barely run and move. Stop being stupid and comparing Cavs Shaq to Heat Shaq. And the ASG MVP doesn't mean anything[/QUOTE]
You need to show me otherwise this is proof.
Shaq won allstar mvp the year before and outplayed Lebron in pivotal game 5. [url]https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201005110CLE.html[/url]
This was a Shaq who had 3 finals mvp's, league mvp at that.
He outplayed Lebron. Won allstar game mvp. Tough to do.
[QUOTE=kawhileonard2;14697507]You need to show me otherwise this is proof.
Shaq won allstar mvp the year before and outplayed Lebron in pivotal game 5. [url]https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201005110CLE.html[/url]
This was a Shaq who had 3 finals mvp's, league mvp at that.
He outplayed Lebron. Won allstar game mvp. Tough to do.[/QUOTE]
Just looked at some of the stats in that series and yikes....Lebron had some bad games
Tmac consistently make the playoff in the west
While Lebron is still leading the lakers to another lottery year for the 4th year
No Ad no playoff
[QUOTE=kawhileonard2;14697507]You need to show me otherwise this is proof.
Shaq won allstar mvp the year before and outplayed Lebron in pivotal game 5. [url]https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201005110CLE.html[/url]
This was a Shaq who had 3 finals mvp's, league mvp at that.
He outplayed Lebron. Won allstar game mvp. Tough to do.[/QUOTE]
I already told you that ASG MVP doesn't mean anything. And it doesn't matter that he won 3 finals mvps and a league MVP because we're talking about 2009-10 shaq. He sucked then. How hard is that for you to comprehend knucklehead
[QUOTE=SaltyMeatballs;14697552]I already told you that ASG MVP doesn't mean anything. And it doesn't matter that he won 3 finals mvps and a league MVP because we're talking about 2009-10 shaq. He sucked then. How hard is that for you to comprehend knucklehead[/QUOTE]
What you are stating is opinion and feelings I am stating facts.
Shaq won allstar mvp the year before and outplayed Lebron in pivotal game 5. [url]https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201005110CLE.html[/url]
This was a Shaq who had 3 finals mvp's, league mvp at that.
He outplayed Lebron. Won allstar game mvp. Tough to do.
Prove me wrong!
[QUOTE=kawhileonard2;14697574]What you are stating is opinion and feelings I am stating facts.
Shaq won allstar mvp the year before and outplayed Lebron in pivotal game 5. [url]https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201005110CLE.html[/url]
This was a Shaq who had 3 finals mvp's, league mvp at that.
He outplayed Lebron. Won allstar game mvp. Tough to do.
Prove me wrong![/QUOTE]
You are really autistic. I'll find your fb and posts it here.
[QUOTE=Lebron23;14697585]You are really autistic. I'll find your fb and posts it here.[/QUOTE]
:roll:
[QUOTE=kawhileonard2;14697574]What you are stating is opinion and feelings I am stating facts.
Shaq won allstar mvp the year before and outplayed Lebron in pivotal game 5. [url]https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201005110CLE.html[/url]
This was a Shaq who had 3 finals mvp's, league mvp at that.
He outplayed Lebron. Won allstar game mvp. Tough to do.
Prove me wrong![/QUOTE]
That's what LeDeadweight does, he turns his teammate into role players
Lebron turned a Prime Shaq in Cav into retirement
[QUOTE=kawhileonard2;14697574]What you are stating is opinion and feelings I am stating facts.
Shaq won allstar mvp the year before and outplayed Lebron in pivotal game 5. [url]https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201005110CLE.html[/url]
This was a Shaq who had 3 finals mvp's, league mvp at that.
He outplayed Lebron. Won allstar game mvp. Tough to do.
Prove me wrong![/QUOTE]
You keep repeating the same thing like it's going to prove that Shaq was some dominant force on the Cavs. What I stated wasn't an opinion because Shaq DID suck in the 09-10 season and a couple of good games here and there does not change that.
And NO this was not the same Shaq that won mvp and 3 straight finals mvps :oldlol:
[QUOTE=LeGoat4Life;14697662]That's what LeDeadweight does,[B] he turns his teammate into role players[/B]
Lebron turned a [B]Prime Shaq in Cav[/B] into retirement[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=LeGoat4Life;14697662]That's what LeDeadweight does, he turns his teammate into role players
Lebron turned a Prime Shaq in Cav into retirement[/QUOTE]
What's the point of saying things this ridiculous? You should make it less obvious that you're trolling.
[QUOTE=Lebron23;14697585]You are really autistic. I'll find your fb and posts it here.[/QUOTE]
whats wrong with you? You are the type of guy who will stalk someone just to get them back....you are weird bro, you make filipinos look bad lmao. If I saw you in the Philippines I would stomp your head in
[QUOTE=Legend248;14697678]whats wrong with you? You are the type of guy who will stalk someone just to get them back....you are weird bro, you make filipinos look bad lmao. If I saw you in the Philippines I would stomp your head in[/QUOTE]
Where's my burger??? This is a very stupid thread
lebron stayed the course and stacked those accolades up
4 rings 4 MVPs 4 finals MVPs + 40k points, most playoff points, most finals points
thats a GOAT case :applause:
[QUOTE=Lebron23;14697715]Where's my burger??? This is a very stupid thread[/QUOTE]
lol look at you
[QUOTE=red1;14697739]lebron stayed the course and stacked those accolades up
4 rings 4 MVPs 4 finals MVPs + 40k points, most playoff points, most finals points
thats a GOAT case :applause:[/QUOTE]
No it is not when you lost with HCA 3x and won bronze medals multiple times and lost to a guy in your own era 3x in the finals who has as many titles as you in less years in the league. GOAT case is turning a franchise that never won into a dynasty also doing multiple 3 peats for a franchise that never won not one that only won 1 title in 11 years and needed a suspension for that.
Tmac would have made the playoffs with peak AD and Westbrook.