Florida mother to be evicted from home unless she gets vaccinated

[QUOTE=tontoz;14440132]I posted on here that I took the Pfizer vaccine. I also posted in the main virus thread that the moderna vaccine has been more effective


If I had financial ties to one or the other I would have made both posts.

Delta Airlines has already announced a surcharge of $200 per person starting in November for people who chose to remain unvaccinated. Their CEO said that COVID hospital stays are costing the $50k on average and all of his employees in the hospital for covid are unvaccinated.

[B]Like it or not the.mandates and surcharges are coming. You clowns won't be able to do anything about it other than :cry:

I am going to enjoy it thoroughly.[/B][/QUOTE]

Reminds me of when Loco 50 said he would enjoy watching Trump die slowly, because Trump isn't tolerant and compassionate enough :lol

You're giving yourself away dude. You obviously dont care about other people if you'll ENJOY watching them get squeezed by big corporations for being hesitant to give up their physical autonomy to the government.

You're a Puritan, eager to watch the accused witches burn alive because they were "too sinful." You want to see your neighbors and fellow citizens ruined to validate yourself and the side you've picked.

Your public righteousness is a veneer for your personal sadism.

Yikes.

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;14440136]Reminds me of when Loco 50 said he would enjoy watching Trump die slowly, because Trump isn't tolerant and compassionate enough :lol

You're giving yourself away dude. You obviously dont care about other people if you'll ENJOY watching them get squeezed by big corporations for being hesitant to give up their physical autonomy to the government.

You're a Puritan, eager to watch the accused witches burn alive because they were "too sinful." You want to see your neighbors and fellow citizens ruined to validate yourself and the side you've picked.

Your public righteousness is a veneer for your personal sadism.

Yikes.[/QUOTE]


Right, getting vaccinated is the equivalent of getting burned alive.

The selfishness of the antivaxers is the reason why hospitals are in crisis standard of care status. They want their freedom but they want everyone else to pay their hospital bills. Not gonna happen.

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[SIZE=7]West Virginia governor says the state will have to 'keep lining the body bags up' if COVID-19 vaccination rates don't improve[/SIZE]

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[url]https://news.yahoo.com/west-virginia-governor-says-state-202122016.html[/url]

[QUOTE=tontoz;14440036]Neither is really the issue. They key issue is the collective good which can take priority over individual liberties.

It is really pathetic all the pansies complaining about mandatory vaccines. There used to be a draft in this country. Once a guy turned 18 his name went into the hat and if his number came up he went into the military. His rights didn't mean jack sh**.

A lot of those guys never came home, hundreds of thousands were killed. I wonder what they would think about these babies complaining about mandatory vaccines.

Back to the topic I texted my cousin about the OP. He owns several rental properties. FWIW he says he doesn't think a landlord would be able to mandate vaccines. He didn't elaborate though.[/QUOTE]

The only reason any landlord would consider this is so they don't get sued. So you can take that collective good shit and shove it.

And I'm glad to see you have a reasonable and sane member of your family who doesn't think like a Nazi Gestapo officer like you.

Dude is really spamming Yahoo articles :oldlol:

Has to be a Pfizer employee, it is the only explanation

[QUOTE=tontoz;14440139]Right, getting vaccinated is the equivalent of getting burned alive.

The selfishness of the antivaxers is the reason why hospitals are in crisis standard of care status. They want their freedom but they want everyone else to pay their hospital bills. Not gonna happen.[/QUOTE]

I mean I’m worried right now that if I get the vax and Im down and out for even just a couple of days, Ill lose out on precious income. The CARES Act owes me backpay that is taking months and months to receive, and in the meantime Im struggling badly. I havent been sick with COVID yet and nobody in my family has, which at this point means Im probably just less genetically susceptible to it than others. Hard to imagine I havent come in contact with it since Ive taken no precautions.

So I almost have to take my chance with going about my business in order to scrape a living together, rather than risk complications from a vax. If I had the backpay Im owed I could take a few days to chill, and get vaxed so that I dont spread the thing around to others.

Will you help? [URL="https://www.gofundme.com/f/missing-covid-assistance-as-pelosi-spams-for?member=13962565&sharetype=teams&utm_campaign=p_na+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer"]https://www.gofundme.com/f/missing-covid-assistance-as-pelosi-spams-for?member=13962565&sharetype=teams&utm_campaign=p_na+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer[/URL]

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;14440152]I mean I’m worried right now that if I get the vax and Im down and out for even just a couple of days, Ill lose out on precious income. The CARES Act owes me backpay that is taking months and months to receive, and in the meantime Im struggling badly. I havent been sick with COVID yet and nobody in my family has, which at this point means Im probably just less genetically susceptible to it than others. Hard to imagine I havent come in contact with it since Ive taken no precautions.

So I almost have to take my chance with going about my business in order to scrape a living together, rather than risk complications from a vax. If I had the backpay Im owed I could take a few days to chill, and get vaxed so that I dont spread the thing around to others.

Will you help? [URL="https://www.gofundme.com/f/missing-covid-assistance-as-pelosi-spams-for?member=13962565&sharetype=teams&utm_campaign=p_na+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer"]https://www.gofundme.com/f/missing-covid-assistance-as-pelosi-spams-for?member=13962565&sharetype=teams&utm_campaign=p_na+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer[/URL][/QUOTE]


Why are you struggling? Could it be because of a global pandemic?

Patrick chewing got the vaccine recently and his experience was the same as mine. The day after the 2nd dose we were both struggling, as were many people i knew. Second day fine other than a sore arm. First dose wasn't a problem other than the sore arm thing which is real. Hurt more than i thought.

If you schedule the 2nd dose on a friday afternoon it shouldn't be an issue unless you work weekends. I wouldn't have been able to work the day after the 2nd dose but i did work the next day.

For whatever reason the Moderna vaccine seems to last longer than the Pfizer which i got. Both protect about the same the first month but the Pfizer loses it's effectiveness more quickly according to what i read.

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;14440148]The only reason any landlord would consider this is so they don't get sued. So you can take that collective good shit and shove it.

And I'm glad to see you have a reasonable and sane member of your family who doesn't think like a Nazi Gestapo officer like you.[/QUOTE]


Watching your tenants die wouldn't bother a landlord at all, not to mention loss of income.

[QUOTE=tontoz;14440158]Why are you struggling? Could it be because of a global pandemic?

Patrick chewing got the vaccine recently and his experience was the same as mine. The day after the 2nd dose we were both struggling, as were many people i knew. Second day fine other than a sore arm. First dose wasn't a problem other than the sore arm thing which is real. Hurt more than i thought.

If you schedule the 2nd dose on a friday afternoon it shouldn't be an issue unless you work weekends. I wouldn't have been able to work the day after the 2nd dose but i did work the next day.

For whatever reason the Moderna vaccine seems to last longer than the Pfizer which i got. Both protect about the same the first month but the Pfizer loses it's effectiveness more quickly according to what i read.[/QUOTE]

No I mean I'm struggling to keep my bills paid. I'm literally donating plasma each week, and if I get the vaccine I won't be allowed to donate for like a month :oldlol:

I didn't apply for unemployment right away at the start of the pandemic even though I lost my job, and I'm basically owed 6,000 in backpay but it's stuck in the 'system' and I've been waiting for months.

I literally can't afford to go and get vaxed and have to take time off from donating blood or turning down odd jobs for a day or two because of a sore arm. That's potentially 200-300 dollars worth of work over a couple days.

I can't afford it brother.

So the pandemic is hitting you in the wallet like a lot of people. And the longer it goes the more it will hurt you financially.

If you know anyone that can help me out I would go and get a vax just as soon as I have the financial footing to do so.

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;14440180]If you know anyone that can help me out I would go and get a vax just as soon as I have the financial footing to do so.[/QUOTE]

You are a good actor. I can't help but feel like you are just making this up to mess with me.

When did you start your LeBron ass kissing routine? Seemed like it just started out of the blue one day.

[QUOTE=tontoz;14440185]You are a good actor. I can't help but feel like you are just making this up to mess with me.

When did you start your LeBron ass kissing routine? Seemed like it just started out of the blue one day.[/QUOTE]


Lol. I'm actually dead ass serious dude. In fact if you get me some help I'll post a picture of the needle mark in my arm and the phone confirmation for my next appointment (tomorrow morning) at BioLife Plasma. If I'm lyin I'll leave ISH for good.

Everyone here knows my name (Christopher Samuels) and what I look like. I'm not a troll. If I welched on an agreement like this it'd be disgraceful and not worth it.

Not gonna beg or post these things in the hopes of convincing you. But if you did me a solid like that I'd definitely reciprocate by proving it's legit.

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;14440188]Lol. I'm actually dead ass serious dude. In fact if you get me some help I'll post a picture of the needle mark in my arm and the phone confirmation for my next appointment (tomorrow morning) at BioLife Plasma. If I'm lyin I'll leave ISH for good.

Everyone here knows my name (Christopher Samuels) and what I look like. I'm not a troll. If I welched on an agreement like this it'd be disgraceful and not worth it.

Not gonna beg or post these things in the hopes of convincing you. But if you did me a solid like that I'd definitely reciprocate by proving it's legit.[/QUOTE]



I am not connected like that. Now that I think about it I don't know how we would even be able to train a new person in my area.

I was talking to a girl in Arizona last week who was looking to transfer to my area but I have been working with her for years. Never met her though.

One of the computer applications we use is literally from the 80s, extremely archaic. Using it is bad enough but trying to train someone on it is worse.

I don't think it would even be possible to train someone virtually because it is such a mess. When I first saw it I was reminded of the matrix movies when they look at the.screen with the random green figures everywhere.

Funny that I hadn't thought about that before. Sorry to hear about your situation assuming you aren't just messing with me.

[QUOTE=tontoz;14440195]I am not connected like that. Now that I think about it I don't know how we would even be able to train a new person in my area.

I was talking to a girl in Arizona last week who was looking to transfer to my area but I have been working with her for years. Never met her though.

One of the computer applications we use is literally from the 90s, extremely archaic. Using it is bad enough but trying to train someone on it is worse.

I don't think it would even be possible to train someone virtually because it is such a mess. When I first saw it I was reminded of the matrix movies when they look at the.screen with the random green figures everywhere.

Funny that I hadn't thought about that before. Sorry to hear about your situation assuming you aren't just messing with me.[/QUOTE]


No worry, I’m working on a Google certificate in project management at the moment, hope to find a steady career when I finish that up in a couple months.

Tbh I just meant if you or the guy you know who owns apartment properties etc wants to help someone out who is struggling, it would also be useful in general because not only Id have the peace of mind to get the vax for myself, but that would also meant I’m not spreading the thing around unknowingly. I realize we’re all gonna have to vax eventually. But I literally have no safety net if it messes me up for even just a few days. I have no financial cushion whatsoever right now.

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;14440197]No worry, I’m working on a Google certificate in project management at the moment, hope to find a steady career when I finish that up in a couple months.

Tbh I just meant if you or the guy you know who owns apartment properties etc wants to help someone out who is struggling, it would also be useful in general because not only Id have the peace of mind to get the vax for myself, but that would also meant I’m not spreading the thing around unknowingly. I realize we’re all gonna have to vax eventually. But I literally have no safety net if it messes me up for even just a few days. I have no financial cushion whatsoever right now.[/QUOTE]


He doesn't own apartments he owns houses. I think he got rid of some of them because dealing with tenants was such a pain. Once he had kids he didn't feel like dealing with tenants nonsense.

He isn't the most charitable type. We went on a road trip for his 50th with some of his country club buddies. At one point they were roasting him for his reluctance to pick up the tab at the club.

I have discussed this with some of my coworkers that we are lucky that we can easily work from home. A lot of people have been really screwed financially in addition to all the people dealing with the virus. Never seen anything remotely like this.

Which is why I get irritated at people who are all about me me me without thinking about all the people whose lives have been completely fuked or lost.

Do you have a car? Pretty easy to get delivery jobs now. I've gotten fliers from pizza hut and door dash looking for workers

[QUOTE=tontoz;14440204]Do you have a car? Pretty easy to get delivery jobs now. I've gotten fliers from pizza hut and door dash looking for workers[/QUOTE]

Well the issue is Im not a good candidate to work in food service until I get vaxed. But I cant afford to get vaxed cuz Ive gotta give plasma.

Honestly dude anything helps.

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;14440206]Well the issue is Im not a good candidate to work in food service until I get vaxed. But I cant afford to get vaxed cuz Ive gotta give plasma.

Honestly dude anything helps.[/QUOTE]

Talk to the delivery company. Wearing multiple cloth masks is very effective at preventing transmission. You could say you are willing to wear multiple masks until you are able to get vaxed. Also look for a place where you can get tested for covid regularly.

[QUOTE=tontoz;14440164]Watching your tenants die wouldn't bother a landlord at all, not to mention loss of income.[/QUOTE]

98% survival rate. I doubt very many landlords are losing tenants over Covid.

[QUOTE=tontoz;14440208]Talk to the delivery company. Wearing multiple cloth masks is very effective at preventing transmission. You could say you are willing to wear multiple masks until you are able to get vaxed.[/QUOTE]

Unfortunately I have [URL="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uhthoff's_phenomenon"]Uhtoff’s Phenomenon[/URL] which makes my nervous system extremely susceptible to irritation from heat. Which already makes the Texas summer extremely difficult for me. Having to wear a mask reduces the amount of surface area by which I can release heat and leads to severe headaches.

It’s obviousoy a problematic situation in general. Damned if I do, damned if I dont. I’d get the vax but things are just too tenuous for me since I’m probably not gonna get sick from Covid myself. If you could find some help for me that I can just take a couple days and get the vax, we can keep it from spreading and keep the hospitals from overflowing.

But obviously it’s up to you. Everyone’s financial decisions are personal. If we all help people we know/interact with regularly get vaxed up, we can stop the spread. It might just mean those with more have to help those with less here and there.

But anyway it’s up to you.

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;14440214]Unfortunately I have [URL="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uhthoff's_phenomenon"]Uhtoff’s Phenomenon[/URL] which makes my nervous system extremely susceptible to irritation from heat. Which already makes the Texas summer extremely difficult for me. Having to wear a mask reduces the amount of surface area by which I can release heat and leads to severe headaches.

It’s obviousoy a problematic situation in general. Damned if I do, damned if I dont. I’d get the vax but things are just too tenuous for me since I’m probably not gonna get sick from Covid myself. If you could find some help for me that I can just take a couple days and get the vax, we can keep it from spreading and keep the hospitals from overflowing.

But obviously it’s up to you. Everyone’s financial decisions are personal. If we all help people we know/interact with regularly get vaxed up, we can stop the spread. It might just mean those with more have to help those with less here and there.

But anyway it’s up to you.[/QUOTE]


You are in Texas but you want a job from my cousin in Virginia? Ok sure I'll get back to you on that.

[QUOTE=tontoz;14440219]You are in Texas but you want a job from my cousin in Virginia? Ok sure I'll get back to you on that.[/QUOTE]

No Im talking about my GoFundMe page [URL="https://www.gofundme.com/f/missing-covid-assistance-as-pelosi-spams-for?member=13962565&sharetype=teams&utm_campaign=p_na+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer"]here[/URL].

I’m trying to raise money to cover the missing backpay Im owed by the government after I lost my job to Covid. I’m due six thousand dollars but the agencies that you have to go thru always have busy phone lines and then when you finally reach them they tell you “it’s coming, it’s coming” but it’s been months and I havent received it. I need that money badly.

If youd be able to contribute anything it would be enormously helpful, just to be able to get by until I can find more work and receive my outstanding payment credit. And I can finally take a few days to get vaxed with peace of mind.

I could really use some help.

tontoz...Stevie Wonder could see what's going on here...

What’s funny is the building is probably filled with all sorts of cancer causing shit.

[QUOTE=SATAN;14440226]tontoz...Stevie Wonder could see what's going on here...[/QUOTE]


Yeah I have to give him credit. He is good. I suspected he was pulling.my leg from the beginning but I know a lot of people have been hit hard financially.

Not being able to afford a free vaccine? Pretty hard to believe.

[QUOTE=SATAN;14440226]tontoz...Stevie Wonder could see what's going on here...[/QUOTE]

What's going on is I'm telling a 100% true story, but tontoz doesn't seem to feel it's his obligation to protect others in need. Tho he feels it's others obligation to protect others.

It sounds like 50 bucks wouldnt be a hardship for him to spare for someone who really needs it. No more than it would be for someone to get a vax even if they're not vulnerable to Covid themselves.

He wants to provide his help on his terms. But he wants you to provide your help on his terms.

:confusedshrug:

Tontoz is playing the "human decency, public good" card, not knowing he's talking to someone on the edge of poverty who badly needs help.


And he's like "Sorry, nope, not giving you anything. But go get a vax to protect others or youre selfish."


:roll:

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;14440214]Unfortunately I have [URL="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uhthoff's_phenomenon"]Uhtoff’s Phenomenon[/URL] which makes my nervous system extremely susceptible to irritation from heat. Which already makes the Texas summer extremely difficult for me. Having to wear a mask reduces the amount of surface area by which I can release heat and leads to severe headaches.

It’s obviousoy a problematic situation in general. Damned if I do, damned if I dont. I’d get the vax but things are just too tenuous for me since I’m probably not gonna get sick from Covid myself. If you could find some help for me that I can just take a couple days and get the vax, we can keep it from spreading and keep the hospitals from overflowing.

But obviously it’s up to you. Everyone’s financial decisions are personal. If we all help people we know/interact with regularly get vaxed up, we can stop the spread. It might just mean those with more have to help those with less here and there.

But anyway it’s up to you.[/QUOTE]

:roll:

TONTOZ!

tontoz is the guy you see riding solo, stuck in traffic with his windows up wearing his mask talking about some #stopthespread

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[QUOTE=diamenz;14440245]:roll:

TONTOZ![/QUOTE]


ANYONE can talk the self righteous talk. Jump on the soapbox and point fingers at others, dole out guilt, dish out shame. Openly delight in seeing the misfortune of anyone with a different view.

But when it’s his chance to actually help... we’re seeing who this guy really is. He takes cover and runs away, probably to a new message board to start sermonizing a new crowd about the selfishness of the unvaxed.

Classic “wealthy preacher” mentality.

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;14440249]ANYONE can talk the self righteous talk. Jump on the soapbox and point fingers at others, dole out guilt, dish out shame. Openly delight in seeing the misfortune of anyone with a different view.

But when it’s his chance to actually help... we’re seeing who this guy really is. He takes cover and runs away, probably to a new message board to start sermonizing a new crowd about the selfishness of the unvaxed.

Classic “wealthy preacher” mentality.[/QUOTE]

wait, so what you're saying in a nutshell is... he's a democrat?

[QUOTE=diamenz;14440248]tontoz is the guy you see riding solo, stuck in traffic with his windows up wearing his mask talking about some #stopthespread

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:roll:

Remember, op took doses of pfizer vaccine.

I really wanted to see how long Fultz would keep the gag going but i had to tap out. I was tired and it was past my bed time lol.

I give him points for creativity though. Not many people could come up with 'I'm too poor for a free vaccine'.

Back to the original topic i did finally find something that might be applicable. However it isn't apples to apples because the ruling was in regards to the smallpox vaccine. Also the ruling was in regards to govt mandates, not landlord mandates. I have my doubts whether it would still hold up in regards to the Covid vaccine/landlord mandates. We'll see.

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"In 1905 the Supreme Court addressed a similar issue of mandatory vaccinations imposed by the government in regard to smallpox in the case 'Jacobson v Massachusetts.' [B]In this case, the court ruled that the 'police power' of the state to protect public health and safety permitted the legislature to impose a mandatory vaccine.[/B]

"[B]The court explained that such regulations are not a violation of the 14th Amendment right to liberty because it is a limitation by which every person is necessarily subjected for the 'greater common good.' [/B][SIZE=5]This decision still prevails even today despite occasional injurious results from vaccinations due to the impossibility of assessing whether a specific person can be safely vaccinated or not.[/SIZE]

"Federal and state laws will likely extend the Jacobson ruling to a mandatory vaccination for COVID-19. [B]Landlords certainly will be afforded legal protection if they discriminate based on whether a person has a vaccination against infection from COVID-19."[/B]
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[url]https://www.millionacres.com/real-estate-investing/articles/can-landlord-require-covid-19-vaccine/[/url]


This is what i said on page 4:

[QUOTE=tontoz;14440036] They key issue is the collective good which can take priority over individual liberties.

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[QUOTE=tontoz;14440326]I really wanted to see how long Fultz would keep the gag going but i had to tap out. I was tired and it was past my bed time lol.
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riiight, bro. but of course!

at least she's not kicked out of her own house by her own son

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;14440084]There are fines for speeding, and fines for seatbelts. Way more people end up in court for speeding tickets than seatbelt tickets. This would indicate the public is not making their decisions based on the fine, but rather on the risk.

Anyway, you may continue being a fear monger for Big Government. Clearly none of us are going to convince the other to see things differently. Only thing I can say is I would imagine you must have some vested personal interest that motivates your position. Either Pharmaceutical holdings, or an internship with a Congressperson, or some kind of profitable reason youre on the side of special interest authoritarian fear mongers. If youre legitimately this hysterical about cheering on corrupt politicans and corporate exploitation with nothing of your own being gained... thatd be a pretty sad situation. Then youre basically R3 and bladefd etc. Guys who know one side will never care about them, and have to convince themselves to believe the BS the other side uses to pretend to care about them. Youre either acting in self interest from a position of strength, or youre weak and must cuck yourself to an imaginary rescuer. Because you definitely are not some beacon of altruism genuinely consumed with this degree of concern for public health. People who are putting on the kind of show you have the past few weeks are either covert profiteers or overcompensating posers trying to virtue signal their worthiness to the mainstream collective.

It’s one or the other big boy. You dont have to tell us which one. But we know it’s one of them. And theres no point in arguing the subject any further.[/QUOTE]

:applause:

[QUOTE=tpols;14440092]Yup... hardcore vax Nazi. Dude literally spends all day fear mongering. Total piece of shit.[/QUOTE]

Just fyi Hitler and the Nazis were against vaccine mandates: [url]https://jacobinmag.com/2021/09/vaccine-mandates-covid-pandemic-german-nazi-inoculation-policy[/url]

If Hitler were in charge today, he'd probably start arresting journalists, politicians, Fauci and co, and outlaw the fear and hysteria that people like Tontoz promote.