is lebron a GREAT scorer?

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Your fallacy is that you believe [B]that there's only one way to win titles[/B] and that's with a guy "caring the scoring load" while we've seen championship teams with 20ppg topscorers.


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We're comparing title quality

Accordingly, guys like Magic or Lebron that won with elite producers like Kareem, AD and Wade have lower ring quality than guys like Curry that won with secondary producers like Klay or Wiggins.

Winning with secondary producers is tougher because it requires defeating maximum defensive attention (carrying scoring load)

We saw ball-dominators like Lebron or Magic get their doors blown off when they tried to carry the scoring load (too ball-dominant), so this inferior brand of ball requires more scoring help.. Otoh, expert jumpshooters like Curry or MJ can maintain ball movement and beat top teams at carry-job volumes, thus requiring less scoring help (they need less help).

Btw, in the 01' and 02' Playoffs, Shaq had equal-scoring partner to attract equal defensive attention, so he didn't defeat maximum defensive attention like Jordan did for all 6 rings... Jordan averaged 10 more than his sidekick for the playoffs and Finals of all title runs.

[QUOTE=3ba11;14666524]D-uh-uhhhh I'm retarded[/QUOTE]
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What's tougher - winning with Kareem and AD or winning with Wiggins?

So Curry > Magic and Lebron because he could win with less, while they got spanked with less, aka upset losses in 1990, 1991, 2009, 2010

[QUOTE=3ba11;14666526]D-duh-uhhh-uhhhh me stupid hehehe d-duhhhh[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=3ba11;14666524]We're comparing title quality

Accordingly, guys like Magic or Lebron that won with elite producers like Kareem, AD and Wade have lower ring quality than guys like Curry that won with secondary producers like Klay or Wiggins.

Winning with secondary producers is tougher because it requires defeating maximum defensive attention (carrying scoring load)

We saw ball-dominators like Lebron or Magic get their doors blown off when they tried to carry the scoring load (too ball-dominant), so this inferior brand of ball requires more scoring help.. Otoh, expert jumpshooters like Curry or MJ can maintain ball movement and beat top teams at carry-job volumes, thus requiring less scoring help (they need less help).

Btw, in the 01' and 02' Playoffs, Shaq had equal-scoring partner to attract equal defensive attention, so he didn't defeat maximum defensive attention like Jordan did for all 6 rings... Jordan averaged 10 more than his sidekick for the playoffs and Finals of all title runs.[/QUOTE]

You don't want to go down the "title quality" road, when Jordan played won in an era without a 2nd super team.

I don't think you even know what your own bullshitbingo words mean. How can Kobe face equal defensive attention when teams doubled and tripled Shaq constantly, while Kobe at times was doubled, but mostly guarded 1v1? Difference in ppg doesn't say anything about the attention given.

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;14665382]Today I learned Bird, Hakeem, Dirk, Barkley & Giannis were not great scorers :applause:[/QUOTE]

Jordan stans have lost the argument on this one.

LeBron getting the all time scoring record will hurt them deeply. More deeply than any championship Lebron has ever won.

[QUOTE=3ba11;14666526]What's tougher - winning with Kareem and AD or winning with Wiggins?

So Curry > Magic and Lebron because he could win with less, while they got spanked with less, aka upset losses in 1990, 1991, 2009, 2010[/QUOTE]

try harder fatboy

IS THE GUY WITH THE MOST POINTS EVER GOOD AT POINTS?!!1

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