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Kevin Chouinard: For tomorrow’s game at Detroit: Bogdan Bogdanovic (right knee injury recovery) is out. [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Justin Holiday (non-COVID illness) is questionable[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/KLChouinard"]Twitter KLChouinard[/URL]
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[url]https://sircharlesincharge.com/2022/10/25/utah-jazz-unexpected-hot-start/[/url]
[QUOTE]The Jazz added former Chicago Bull, Cleveland Cavalier big man, and sharpshooter [URL="https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4066336/lauri-markkanen"]Lauri Markkanen[/URL]. After not living up to expectations, Markkanen looks like a much-improved player after a busy summer. The Jazz has done what the Bulls couldn’t and are reaping the benefits.
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who's expectations? Based on where he was drafted he's probably close to what you'd expect
[QUOTE]The Jazz is ranked fourth in the league in points scored, ranked second in steals per game, and third in steals. They also rank in the top 10 in the league in offensive rating and net rating.
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the steals are a new thing. Too bad we never got to see Gobert with a team like this around him
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[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/latest-utah-jazz-news-recent/2022/10/25/23424065/from-zach-lowes-podcast-utah-jazz-unwilling-to-part-with-jordan-clarkson-trade-rumor[/url]
[QUOTE][INDENT]“I’ve heard the same stuff that other people have reported that they are just super reluctant to move Clarkson. They’re really fond of him for whatever reason so I would peg him as the least likely of all these Jazz guys to get traded.”
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He's the one that has to go. What possible reason would you keep him if some team is actually stupid enough to want him?
[QUOTE]This matches up with what we’ve heard from other local reporters that the Jazz are reluctant to trade Jordan Clarkson and would like to keep him on the team. It makes sense in the context of the current situation with the Jazz. Clarkson is a great guy to have in the locker room, which can be invaluable for a team that will likely see some turmoil this season. He’s also a fun player to watch that creates at least one highlight play every night. Remember this?
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one highlite play or many bricks, prayers, turnovers and horrible D? Take your choice :facepalm
[QUOTE]The Jazz have come out hot and have been a lot of fun to watch to begin the season, but it’s more than likely that this team will have some extended periods of losing. If they go through any type of cold spell shooting, or if they have some injuries to any of their key players, there will be some extended losing streaks. To have a player like Clarkson when the chips are down can be beneficial to a coach and to a culture. When teams are winning, everyone is all-in on doing what’s best for the team. When the losses start piling up, you start to see guys looking to get their stats for future contracts.
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he's the first one looking for his
[QUOTE]On top of all that, we’ve seen Clarkson evolve his game as a distributor. Sure, it’s only four games, but Clarkson is averaging a career-high 5.3 assists per game, which is 2 more assists per game than his career average. Could Clarkson play more point guard if a trade happens with Mike Conley? It could happen [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2022/10/24/23422297/are-the-utah-jazz-working-on-a-trade-with-the-los-angeles-lakers-for-russell-westbrook-rumor"]if the Jazz make some sort of move with the Lakers[/URL].
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the biggest gunner ever at the point! :roll:
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[url]https://sports.yahoo.com/jazz-were-willing-favorable-russell-000147710.html[/url]
[QUOTE]One offer reportedly involved the Utah Jazz and would’ve netted the Lakers sharpshooter Bojan Bogdanovic, veteran forward Rudy Gay and veteran point guard Mike Conley.
It would’ve cost them two future first-round draft picks, but some fans felt it was the best offer available.
Reportedly, the Jazz were on board with that deal, and they were even willing to sweeten the pot for the Lakers.
Via [URL="https://lakersdaily.com/report-jazz-were-willing-to-send-huge-package-headlined-by-bojan-bogdanovic-to-lakers-for-russell-westbrook-and-2-1st-rounders/"]Lakers Daily[/URL]:
[INDENT]“To make matters more frustrating for Lakers fans, it looks as though the Jazz were even willing to send the Lakers a 2023 first-round pick in the deal.
“The Athletic’s Tony Jones wrote on Twitter that the Jazz were good to go with the deal.”
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didn't even have to take the bum in the deal. The first was for taking Gay I guess
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[URL]http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=273fe7qu[/URL]
get it done
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Adrian Wojnarowski: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Denver Nuggets forward Michael Porter Jr. (lumbar management), will miss his first game of the season tonight vs. the Lakers[/URL] (ESPN, 10 ET), but there’s optimism he could be back vs. Utah on Friday, sources tell ESPN.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/wojespn"]Twitter wojespn[/URL]
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[url]https://www.deseret.com/2022/10/26/23424791/national-media-reaction-utah-jazz-espn-podcasts[/url]
[QUOTE]“(Markkanen) just didn’t feel comfortable in Chicago, felt more comfortable in Cleveland and feels really comfortable in Utah,” Windhorst said. “I was told fit is a big thing for European players when they come to the NBA and I think they (the Jazz) are holding onto Markkanen.
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Wouldn't bet on it. Everyone is available for the right price except Clarkson I guess :cry:
[QUOTE]“I think Jordan Clarkson is trying to play in a way that hastens (a trade). He is playing with maximum effort and under control. He is on his best behavior. I think the Jazz would love for him to get good value.”
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he's a bum
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[QUOTE] If NBA insider Zach Lowe’s latest report is true, Utah Jazz fans can take a big sigh of relief on the Jordan Clarkson front. The senior ESPN writer reported that the Jazz are most likely going to keep former Sixth Man of the Year. “I’ve heard the same stuff that other people have reported that [URL="https://www.si.com/nba/jazz/news/jazz-keeping-jordan-clarkson-rumor"]they are just super reluctant to move Clarkson,” Lowe said. ”They’re really fond of him for whatever reason so I would peg him as the least likely of all these Jazz guys to get traded.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://www.si.com/nba/jazz/news/jazz-keeping-jordan-clarkson-rumor"]Patrick Byrnes @ Sports Illustrated
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During the offseason, Westbrook was the subject of trade rumors with teams like the Indiana Pacers and Utah Jazz. However, the Lakers were never able to come to an agreement on a deal. Despite that, there is still time for a deal to be made. “The big trades that people want with the Lakers, Westbrook and his $47 million out with those first-round picks the Lakers have in ’27 and ’29, all the deals the Lakers didn’t want to do in the offseason, that’s all that’s there two weeks into the season,” Wojnarowski said. “Teams don’t really get serious about doing deals and maybe pivoting away from trying to be a playoff team or trying to go toward the lottery in a year where there’s Victor Wembanyama available. They’re not going to do that until 20 or 30 games into the season. So, all the deals the Lakers didn’t think gave them enough value for trading those picks, they’re all still there. [URL="https://lakersdaily.com/nba-insider-says-a-russell-westbrook-move-to-the-lakers-bench-is-probably-inevitable/"]Utah, Indiana, who the Lakers talked with a lot in the offseason, I’m told they’ve not heard from the Lakers yet this season[/URL]. “And so, people are going to have to get used to a team that’s not going to be able to make dramatic change for a while, if really at all this year.”
– via [URL="https://lakersdaily.com/nba-insider-says-a-russell-westbrook-move-to-the-lakers-bench-is-probably-inevitable/"]Peter Dewey @ Lakers Daily[/URL]
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20 or 30 games will be too late for the Lakers
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[url]https://factoryofsadness.co/2022/10/25/its-too-early-to-say-whether-the-utah-jazz-or-the-cleveland-cavaliers-are-winners-of-the-summer-trade/[/url]
[QUOTE][h=2]It’s too soon to say the Utah Jazz or the Cleveland Cavaliers have won the Donovan Mitchell trade.[/h][/QUOTE]
I'd be shocked if the Jazz don't win this big. Could argue Lauri is better. Sexton certainly looked like he could be better. Good thing Hardy makes guys play D unlike COTM. Still have another lottery pick and 3 unprotected to come
[QUOTE]When it comes to early season expectations, the Cavs are looking at an Eastern Conference Finals appearance at least, while the Jazz was expected to tank for Victor Wembanyama. Markkanen’s hot start and 3-1 record have put the Jazz’s ability to land the perceived No.1 Overall Pick in the 2023 NBA Draft in jeopardy.
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Cavs have to make the playoffs first. No guarantee in a now tough East
[QUOTE]Now, if the Jazz stays the course, doubles down with Markkanen, doesn’t trade the rest of their vets, and makes the playoffs, is that enough? Some NBA pundits believe that being a middle team in the NBA, a bottom-four playoff team, for example, is worse than being a rebuilding team. Especially if you don’t have a game-changing superstar like Wembanyanma.
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that's probably where the Cavs are. Jazz will suck. Give them time
[QUOTE]The Jazz are living examples of that; they felt they hit their ceiling with Mitchell, Rudy Gobert, and Bojan Bogdanovic leading the way, so they got dealt. Let’s say this new-look Jazz makes the playoffs, then what? Utah isn’t a free-agent destination, and their best bet on rebuilding into an NBA Finals contender is through the draft.
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pretty obvious what was needed was a new coach which was obvious after the bubble if not sooner. I'd have dealt Mitchell and Clarkson and let the statue play with an unselfish team that gets after people defensively
[QUOTE]Is Markkanen about to become Dirk Nowitzki? Probably not, but he’s good enough to get them more wins. So if they’re not wanting to tank, then sure, keep Markkanen and stay the course. If they do want to tank, then Markkanen is keeping them from that.
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he never won elsewhere. Conley is what is holding it together. Hardy had him in with 5 fouls with a quarter to play because no one else can run the offense. Butler was the only other one and he's gone
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[url]https://kingjamesgospel.com/2022/10/24/cavs-jazz-look-like-runaway-winners-blockbuster-trade/[/url]
[QUOTE]Last season, losing Darius Garland would have doomed the Cavs to a winless streak to start the season. From the time Ricky Rubio tore his ACL, Garland was the only player on the roster capable of creating for both himself and others at a high level. Any success they achieved was cobbled together by defense and willpower.
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Neto was often better than Rubio when they were here. Too bad COTM never liked Neto. Hardy would for sure. Could actually use him
[QUOTE]Mitchell is carrying a heavy burden, with the league’s fifth-highest usage rate, and it will be best for the Cavs’ offense when Garland returns and that eases a bit. Yet it’s hard to argue with the results: second in Win Shares, top-15 in Box Plus-Minus, and sixth in points per game. Mitchell has been everything the Cavs needed and more to start the season.
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you definitely don't want Mitchell having the ball that much. That was a problem here
[QUOTE]They can't win them all. Especially playing their 4th game in 6 days. That said this will not be the year the Jazz win it all. That will be years from now if at all. The Cav's will be a threat to win it all much sooner. Still both teams appear to be likely to come out ahead on this trade.
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they aren't winning it all. Small backcourt, perimeter D issues. Mitchell dominating the ball...same things that happened here
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[url]https://kslsports.com/494669/jazz-match-last-years-team-with-4-1-record-to-open-season/[/url]
[QUOTE]For context, if Markkanen were to reach 213 dunks for the Jazz, he’d have the 24th most-prolific dunking season in league history, tying noted finishers Shaquille O’Neal and Clint Capela.
At this pace, Markkanen looks like he’ll easily become the second-most prolific dunker in Jazz history behind only Rudy Gobert.
Gobert has five seasons that would beat Markkanen’s projected 213 dunks, but Derrick Favors record of 150 dunks in 2017-18, the most by a Jazzman not named Gobert, is in serious danger.
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6th best in team history is not a record. Believe Gobert was on pace to break his NBA record when he got COVID
[QUOTE]And, his shots rarely come in the flow of the offense as tends to dribble the air in the half-court.
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sounds like the owner's favorite bum
[QUOTE]The Jazz win will turn 22 in late November and at that age, there’s plenty of room for development. It’s not at all far-fetched to think Horton-Tucker could be a serious role player for a championship contender by the end of his career if he can put his full game together.
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unless he shoots better he'll have a tough time sticking. Looks like he could be in better shape to me as well
[QUOTE]Jarred Vanderbilt has fouled out in both home games this season. His 26 fouls through five games are tied for the fourth-most by a player to begin the season in NBA history.
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must be in some great company there!
[QUOTE]The Jazz were second in the NBA in steals per game at 10.6 and finished with 11 against the Rockets.
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one of the big differences. Gobert's job could have been a lot easier
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Finally got the camp roster and a fresh look to the page as well
[URL]https://saltlakecity.gleague.nba.com/roster[/URL]
Bolden put up 12 pts(52/40/62)/9 rbd/1 stl/1.5 blks) with Stars last year. center maybe could play 4? Back up Potter?
Bass looks good at the 4. 18 pts(49/34/79)/8 rbd/3 off/1 stl/1 blk in Gleague. Back up Cook?
Tyler Cook Did ok at multiple stops in the NBA. 25 pts(68/0/68)/8 rbd/2 ass/2 stl 1 blk in Gleague last year
Stacy Davis is supposed to be a 6'6 center. Played in Poland last year. 18 pts(47/34/80)/6 rbds/2 ass/1 stl. Play the 3 or 4?
Frank Jackson is the local guy that put up 11(40/30/83) with the Pistons last year
Isiah Miller put up 16(50/32/46)/6 rbd/3 ass/1.5 stl in gleague last year. Probably back up Frank at the 1?
Micah Potter 14 pts(44/40/77)/11 rbd/4 off/1 stl/1 blk in gleague. Start at center when Udoka or Kessler aren't down there?
Jeenathan Williams put up big numbers at a small college last year. Wing
Morsell put up pretty good numbers on a better team in college last year. Wing
Elijiah Lufile put up pretty good numbers at a smaller college last year. Says he's a center too at 6'8
Rawle Alkins was ok on the wing last year in the gleague
Armorie Archibald was ok at the Mailman's small school last year
Nino Johnson was a good energy guy for Stars last year.
I'd guess that is the roster along with Ochai Agbaji, Juzang and possibly Bolmaro, Udoka or Kessler after his last couple outings where he struggled.
Potter/Bolden
Cook/Bass
Juzang/Alkins
Ochai/Morsell/Williams
Jackson/Miller
the other guys fighting it out for the final spots on the roster?
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Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Walker Kessler and Rudy Gay were feeling under the weather today and did not participate in the Utah Jazz’s practice[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]
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[QUOTE] Katy Winge: Nuggets injury update ahead of Friday’s home game vs Utah: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Kentavious Caldwell-Pope (left ankle sprain) – questionable Michael Porter Jr (lumbar spine injury management) – questionable[/URL] Davon Reed (personal reasons) – questionable
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/katywinge"]Twitter katywinge[/URL]
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could be another long night for Jokic
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[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2022/10/27/23426756/lauri-markkanen-is-on-fire-for-the-utah-jazz[/url]
good analysis on Lauri. Every GM should read
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[QUOTE] Sarah Todd: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Also of note on Jazz injury report: Udoka Azubuike is not listed,[/URL] which means that he is available to play for the first time since his right ankle surgery last season.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/NBASarah"]Twitter NBASarah[/URL]
[URL="https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34892027/nba-2k-league-bans-6-players-coach-gambling-violations"]The NBA 2K League has indefinitely disqualified six players and a coach from any league activity for violating gambling and fantasy rules,[/URL] it was announced Thursday. An investigation found that Christopher Lafanette, Dorian Earl Miller and Robert Nastasi of Blazer5 Gaming, Kimanni Ingram of Jazz Gaming, and Zekirri Dennis of Mavs Gaming all wagered or attempted to wager on NBA 2K League games, either on their own or through other individuals, the league said in a statement.
– via [URL="https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34892027/nba-2k-league-bans-6-players-coach-gambling-violations"]ESPN[/URL]
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Be interesting what they do with Udoka if he's available
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[QUOTE] Sarah Todd: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Rudy Gay and Simone Fontecchio will miss tomorrow’s Jazz game against the Nuggets (health and safety protocols)[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/NBASarah"]Twitter NBASarah[/URL]
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This could help Udoka. Play Vandebilt at the 4. Kessler has yet to show the outside shot he's supposed to have
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[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/russell-westbrook-trade-lakers-jazz-003300097.html[/URL]
[QUOTE]Which is why the Jazz and Lakers remain the perfect partners for this tango, and why it’s no surprise reports leaked that Ainge is now willing to accept the Lakers’ offer of their only two remaining first-round picks — in 2027 and 2029 — and Westbrook in a deal that balances their roster and provides a perimeter threat at the point guard spot in Mike Conley.
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I think Ainge was always willing for both picks. Lakers haven't seemed to want to give it up. Conley, Clarkson,Olynyk and Gay would almost be half the rotation that is winning in Utah. Assuming the Jazz owner can give up his boy Clarkson
[QUOTE]The Lakers, however, can demand more for two reasons: First, LeBron James becomes a free agent after next season, and if he leaves Los Angeles, you can all but assume those first-rounders in 2027 and 2029 will be high lottery picks. Second, the Indiana Pacers are another team who can offer a better package with Myles Turner and Buddy Hield having been focal parts of their respective teams in the past.
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Davis should be at the 5 and Lebron at the 4. Conley takes over Westbrook in the starting lineup. Gay backs up Lebron. Olynyk behind Davis and Clarkson comes off the bench as well. Jazz might want to wait for Lonnie Walker to become trade eligible in December though. Only 23 still. Played for Pop. Fit right in
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[URL]http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=29ekxrhf[/URL]
Danny might even throw in a 1st for your two unprotected. He just wants to have some fun
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[QUOTE][INDENT] Looks like the [URL="https://twitter.com/utahjazz?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"]@utahjazz[/URL] got hit by a bug.
OUT – Rudy Gay (health & safety protocols)
OUT – Simone Fontecchio (health & safety protocols)
OUT- Johnny Juzang (G League – Two Way)
QUESTIONABLE – Walker Kessler (illness)
QUESTIONABLE – Collin Sexton (left oblique contusion)
— Ben Anderson (@BensHoops) [URL="https://twitter.com/BensHoops/status/1585760735136665600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"]October 27, 2022[/URL]
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Looks like we get to see what Dok can do with these guys
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[url]https://saltcityhoops.com/figuring-future-how-to-watch-part-1/[/url]
[QUOTE]Clarkson is the most likely of this group to stay into the next phase of his career, both because he’s the youngest (30) and because he has reportedly expressed a comfort level in Utah and a desire to mentor this young group. Gay is the least likely, because of his smaller role and a salary that makes him easier to move. The Olynyk-Conley order is debatable; Conley is a likelier candidate to be traded in the near term, but if that doesn’t happen, Mountain Mike has more connection to Utah by now. If the Jazz have a believable path to being good, there’s a non-zero chance he stays and lends his wisdom to the next core, too.
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Clarkson the mentor! Gay's contract is through next year. Not sure he's not the hardest to move. They all need to go sooner than later
[QUOTE]These two narrowly avoided training camp cuts, and are only ranked above the elder statesmen because the Jazz technically — as of today — have control of their futures via matching rights. The Jazz will lose those rights, though, if they decline the 2023-24 team option on either guy by the October 31 deadline. That’s looking more likely since neither one is in the rotation. If that happens, then these guys automatically drop below at least Clarkson — and maybe all four vets. If the Jazz exercise the option on either one, then they technically would be keeping the future in play in case that player ultimately ascends to the rotation. That’s why I’m keeping them here… for now.
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Don't think Udoka was in danger of getting cut unless the doctors don't think he can ever stay healthy
[QUOTE](I’ll repeat my personal preference here: I’d decline Dok’s $3.9M option, but if they have any inkling from seeing Bolmaro in practice that he is a future rotational guy, I’d keep him since his 2023-24 salary is only about $500K above the minimum salary for a veteran anyway.)
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the problem is flexibility. He's most likely the next guy cut if they have to cut someone
[QUOTE]Fontecchio looked impressive in his first extended court time, but ranks behind the other two for contract reasons. First of all, his current deal lasts half as long as the rookie scale contracts of Kessler and Agbaji. And when he does hit free agency in 2024 (the Jazz will have matching rights if they want them), he can only be signed at that point for up to four years. So while Agbaji and Kessler could have 6-9 years as Jazzmen before they experience free agency, Fontecchio won’t make it past year six with the Jazz unless he signs a minimum of three contracts. That alone was enough to list him last among this trio.[/QUOTE]
he's older. Once Olynyk and Gay are moved he'll be showcased so they can move him too
[QUOTE]Both Sexton and Markkanen were sign-and-trade recipients after being squeezed a bit in the low-leverage throes of restricted free agency. The result is that both are paid reasonably, so at some point they become so valuable as trade assets that the Jazz have to consider their options. Otherwise, both will be around for a few years and will be given opportunities to lead this transitioning squad.
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I'd guess Lauri is in the 2nd group to me moved
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Marc J. Spears: Jazz say [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Collin Sexton (left oblique contusion) available tonight[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/MarcJSpears"]Twitter MarcJSpears[/URL]
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[url]https://kslsports.com/494686/utah-jazz-four-factors-week-one/[/url]
[QUOTE]This grade would be an A, but the team was dinged as neither Ochai Agbaji nor Leandro Bolmaro have played meaningful minutes this season.
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Stars. Can only play so many guys
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[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50505256/ochai-agbaji-leondro-bolmaro-get-first-rotation-minutes-with-jazz-in-loss-to-denver[/url]
[QUOTE]"We love Leandro's toughness. We love his ability to guard the ball defensively. The pace that he plays with, the fire that he plays with on both ends is definitely representative of how we want our team and our program to be," said Hardy, later adding that he thought Bolmaro had a bright future.
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I like him too. Him and Vanderbilt seem like the guys that could be good role players around their future lottery picks
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[QUOTE] Sarah Todd: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Mike Conley (rest) will not play tonight against the Grizzlies[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/NBASarah"]Twitter NBASarah[/URL]
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Be hard to win without him. Guess Sexton starts?
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[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50505213/jazz-learn-they-need-chaos-in-road-loss-to-nuggets[/url]
[QUOTE]"I thought, for the most part, we got good 3-point looks," Hardy said. "You know, JC going 0-for-7 is definitely an anomaly. I thought he took good ones tonight. I thought he took catch and shoots. I didn't think that he was really forcing up his three ball. We got some good looks that just didn't go tonight, which can happen. That's the part about the 3-point line, there can be a lot of variance in shooting from night to night."
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not an anomaly. They aren't good shots if the guy can't shoot. Making it real hard to like ya coach!
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[url]https://www.deseret.com/2022/10/29/23427488/utah-jazz-ochai-agbaji-leandro-bolmaro-denver-nuggets[/url]
I like him. Kind of reminds me a bit of Rubio but in a good way! :oldlol:
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[url]https://www.deseret.com/2022/10/28/23427484/bones-hyland-denver-nuggets-beat-utah-jazz[/url]
[QUOTE]Rebounding, though, was particularly harmful for the Jazz, with the Nuggets pulling down 58 boards to the Jazz’s 38.
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doubt they god rebounded by 20 very many times since 2014
[QUOTE]Lauri Markkanen came out scorching hot, giving the Jazz a 9-3 lead, but the Jazz would struggle to have consistently good offense for the rest of the game. The other player who wasn’t hit with a cold spell was Mike Conley, who continues to play great for the Jazz. Conley went 4/7 from the field, 4/5 from three with 5 assists in just 23 minutes. It’s clear the Jazz were trying not to overdo it with Conley, as they are on the front end of a back-to-back and aren’t looking to wear out their veteran point guard. There may also be other things going on in the background. This is now 3 games in a row where Conley has been in the low 20s in minutes. Are the Jazz trying to keep him fresh and healthy for a potential move?[/QUOTE]
got to keep him healthy
[QUOTE]Jordan Clarkson, who’s had a fantastic season so far, was hit by a cold spell and couldn’t find the bottom of the net. For the game, Clarkson shot 1/10 from the field and 0/7 from three. Clarkson has been a major cog in the Jazz matching that has gotten them their 4 wins so far this season. For him to struggle makes it really difficult for this Jazz team to overcome bad night from multiple other players.
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counting on that bum is a recipe for disaster
[QUOTE]All the available players on the Jazz got minutes tonight, but what’s interesting is that 10 players got minutes in non garbage time. The lineups were different all night as it appears Hardy is willing to put different rotations on the floor based on in-game needs and that the Jazz are on the front end of a back-to-back. It’s refreshing how fluid everything is for the Jazz. Clarkson normally plays in the 30s in minutes, and with his shot not falling Hardy went to other players. The other thing that’s interesting about this is it shows that Hardy is willing to play rookies. Agbaji would likely never see the floor last season, but this year it’s looking like he might start earning more minutes. It’s nice to see.
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I sure miss COTM :D
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Eric Walden: Lauri Markkanen, having finished his interview, took a picture this Jazz backdrop with a camera. Said he’s documenting something different every day for his family so they can keep track of the steps in their journey. pic.twitter.com/dDdeDl6KNY
– via Twitter tribjazz
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[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50505712/jazz-show-that-teams-dont-need-a-closer-to-win-close-games[/url]
[QUOTE]But what if a team doesn't have one of those guys on the roster?
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you can't call Lauri an all star and than say they don't have that player. He should be able to generate a look over someone any time
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[url]https://kslsports.com/494816/olynyk-jazz-beat-grizzlies/[/url]
[QUOTE]Whether Agabji remains in the lineup when the Jazz get healthier remains to be seen, but he’s shown promise in his first two true appearances of the season.
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he's your lottery pick who played a few years in college already. He should be ready to show some promise
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[url]https://kslsports.com/494814/three-straight-triples-gives-utah-jazz-late-lead-against-memphis/[/url]
[QUOTE]Lauri Markkanen looks like a major piece of the Jazz franchise going forward, while Clarkson and Olynyk could be highly sought-after trade pieces with their current production.
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let's see how much they get in exchange for him before we say he's a major piece
[QUOTE]On top of that, they’ve been fun to watch due to their [URL="https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/traditional?dir=A&sort=AST"]fast-paced offense[/URL], rapid ball movement, and strong individual performances from Markkanen and Clarkson.
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Clarkson is the one thing that is not fun about it
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[QUOTE]Joe Ingles (1,071)
Donovan Mitchell (958)
John Stockton (845)
Gordon Hayward (689)
Bojan Bogdanovic (550)
Bryon Russell (540)
Darrell Griffith (530)
Mehmet Okur (517)
[B]Jordan Clarkson (512)*[/B]
Deron Williams (511)
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the fact that he's made that many with his horrible % is a joke!
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[url]https://www.deseret.com/2022/10/29/23428979/utah-jazz-edge-out-the-memphis-grizzlies[/url]
[QUOTE]Against the Grizzlies, Hardy turned to Nickeil Alexander-Walker and he was absolutely brilliant. He was defensively more than impressive and the Jazz truly couldn’t have won the game without what he provided.
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NEED TO SEE MORE OF IT. cLARKSON NEEDS TO GO!!!
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[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2022/10/29/23430284/los-angeles-lakers-trade-rumors-russell-westbrook-lebron-james-utah-jazz-mike-conley[/url]
[QUOTE] [h=1]It’s time for the Lakers to let the Jazz save their season[/h]
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there is no saving them
[QUOTE]Another thing to consider with Conley is that he’s spent the last 3 seasons learning how to play off of one of the most ball-dominant guards in the league in Donovan Mitchell. He’s already made the transition from primary star playmaker to off-ball playmaker, something Russell Westbrook hasn’t been able to do. In his time with Utah he’s become a spot-up 3 sniper that can also run a secondary pick and roll when needed. He’s the perfect compliment to LeBron James. Imagine the shooting percentage from Mike Conley if he has LeBron James setting him up. It’s easy to see that working out really well in an incredible way.
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yeah but how many games will Lebron, Conley and Davis actually be on the court together? That's the problem they will have
[QUOTE]But that’s not all the Jazz could offer. A lot of people have mentioned Jordan Clarkson as a potential trade piece, but I would argue the Lakers should be asking for Malik Beasley. Beasley, who the Jazz acquired in the Rudy Gobert trade, is another sniper from three that could fill the Lakers’ massive deficit in shooting. Beasley is playing just 24 minutes per game off the bench and is playing in a primary playmaker role. Yes, Beasley is shooting 30% from three this year, but he’s a career 38% three-point shooter. Those numbers will go up once he’s on the floor with LeBron James. Just two seasons ago, Beasley was regularly putting up 20 points per game in 32 minutes per game. You could argue he’s just as good as Buddy Hield is for Indiana, and the Lakers could probably get both of these players.
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everyone is better than Clarkson but Clarkson is the one that needs to go
[QUOTE]Per game, Olynyk is scoring just 1 point less per game, is putting up nearly 3x as many assists, and is shooting it at a higher 3P%. And he’s doing this in 5 fewer minutes per game. When when you look at a per-36 comparison, the numbers get even more surprising. In the same amount of time on the floor, Olynyk is putting up more points per game, more rebounds, more assists, more steals ... everything. Danny Ainge must have been looking at this when he made the Bojan Bogdanovic trade. And this has panned out in the best way possible for the Jazz, who have seen Olynyk be a high-level starter for them at the PF/C position.
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and Davis and Lebron should start up front. Olynyk off the bench with Gay and Clarkson. Conley starts
[QUOTE]There is one issue here. The Jazz traded for Olynyk on September 22 and [URL="https://en.as.com/nba/can-nba-teams-trade-players-during-preseason-n/"]can’t trade him until two months after the trade[/URL]. This means the Lakers would have to wait till on or around November 22 to make that move. If they can somehow string together a few wins up until then, then they could make the move.
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be too late by then
[QUOTE]Sure, the Lakers would have zero draft capital after the trade, but you’re the Los Angeles Lakers. You’re the biggest brand in the league. LeBron James decided to join you. Anthony Davis forced his way out of New Orleans to join you. Isn’t that the model you use to improve your team? If you’re relying on picks to build your team it’s because your front office isn’t doing a good job in free agency. You have the advantage every other team dreams of. It’s time to make the move that will help you not waste another season of LeBron James and have confidence in your ability for the future.
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can only hope they are that stupid
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[url]https://valleyofthesuns.com/2022/10/28/phoenix-suns-miss-utah-jazz-pieces/[/url]
[QUOTE]The ship could have sailed on that though, not that we specifically know what Utah were asking for in return. Clarkson’s impressive numbers are making him an even higher commodity around the league, building market competition which subsequently increases the asking price.
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who is more stupid the Jazz owner or who ever trades for him?
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[QUOTE] Tony Jones: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]The Utah Jazz will not pick up Udoka Azubuike’s fourth year rookie option, or Leandro Bolmaro’s third year option,[/URL] League Sources tell The Athletic. Both will be unrestricted free agents this coming offseason
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/Tjonesonthenba"]Twitter Tjonesonthenba[/URL]
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as expected
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[url]https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/1586781707763605506/photo/1[/url]
Hood, Stockton, Boylen and Mike Wells
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[QUOTE] Adrian Wojnarowski: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Bojan Bogdanovic has agreed on a two-year, $39.1 million extension with the Detroit Pistons,[/URL] @wassbasketball tells ESPN.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/wojespn"]Twitter wojespn[/URL]
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good for them. Glad it worked out
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James Edwards III: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]The second year on Bogdanovic’s extension will be partially guaranteed,[/URL] sources tell The Athletic.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/JLEdwardsIII"]Twitter JLEdwardsIII[/URL]