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Man, you guys are in for a huge surprise if you think LeBron's current ranking is "recency bias".
I know more about NBA history than most posters on this forum and LeBron is already top 3 at worst.
No denying it.
Only morons like spurs m8 think otherwise.
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14733849]Man, you guys are in for a huge surprise if you think LeBron's current ranking is "recency bias".
I know more about NBA history than most posters on this forum and LeBron is already top 3 at worst.
No denying it.
Only morons like spurs m8 think otherwise.[/QUOTE]
Says he knows more about NBA history than most posters....
Had no clue that the Bulls/Pistons was one of the most bitter rivalries of all time. :roll:
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[QUOTE=Full Court;14733854]Says he knows more about NBA history than most posters....
Had no clue that the Bulls/Pistons was one of the most bitter rivalries of all time. :roll:
:roll:[/QUOTE]
" '91 Bulls/Pistons series which was 4-0 was just as competitive as the '87 ECF 4-3 series" - full tard.
[QUOTE=Full Court;14733854]Says he knows more about NBA history than most posters....
Had no clue that the Bulls/Pistons was one of the most bitter rivalries of all time. :roll:
:roll:[/QUOTE]
OF COURSE he didn't :roll:
[QUOTE=Spurs m8;14733879]OF COURSE he didn't :roll:[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?509444-Spurs-m8-sharp-as-a-bowling-ball[/url]
:roll:
Moron
[QUOTE=j3lademaster;14733429]MJ's had his share of getting embarassed, I'm sure.
[IMG]https://media.tenor.com/znIhwoCIbT8AAAAC/michael-jordan-nba.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]
He had the tongue out to add insult to injury. :lol
MJ is lucky he didn't play in this era, every bad play he made would turn into a gif and be posted over and over by trolls. I've seen him throw a pass to a ref thinking it was a teammate, yet 99% of the posters here have never seen that play. And I doubt it's a gif.
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14733849]Man, you guys are in for a huge surprise if you think LeBron's current ranking is "recency bias".
I know more about NBA history than most posters on this forum and LeBron is already top 3 at worst.
No denying it.
Only morons like spurs m8 think otherwise.[/QUOTE]
I think THE absolute worst you can do without looking like a straight obsessed hater is top 5, and even then that's a super stretch regardless of your criteria.
Only 3 guys to ever play have more mvps
only 2 hypothetically have more fvmps/titles as the man.
No one has led 3 different franchises to chips or proven to succeed with as many different styles of team.
No one has more points, in the reg or postseason.
No one has more playoff gamewinners
or a better performance record in game 7s.
No is within a county mile of posting as many mvp level seasons
Has a goat level peak and prime.....and longevity.
Very top tier in all advanced metrics
AND....even if you decide to use warped logic to drop him in your rankings, he just rises right back up when you apply rhe same shit logic to the rest of the top 10.
It's over.
[QUOTE=sdot_thadon;14733885]I think THE absolute worst you can do without looking like a straight obsessed hater is top 5, and even then that's a super stretch regardless of your criteria.
Only 3 guys to ever play have more mvps
only 2 hypothetically have more fvmps/titles as the man.
No one has led 3 different franchises to chips or proven to succeed with as many different styles of team.
No one has more points, in the reg or postseason.
No one has more playoff gamewinners
or a better performance record in game 7s.
No is within a county mile of posting as many mvp level seasons
[B]Has a goat level peak and prime.....and longevity.
[/B]
Very top tier in all advanced metrics
AND....even if you decide to use warped logic to drop him in your rankings, he just rises right back up when you apply rhe same shit logic to the rest of the top 10.
It's over.[/QUOTE]
This, along with the 4 titles is the reason why he is top 3 at worse.
At his peak he was an elite scorer, passer, & defender. How many guys in history can say they were elite in all 3 of these categories at the same time? His play has no noticeable drop in the postseason, is one of the best big game performers ever, and to add to that his longevity has never been seen before. He just broke the scoring record at age 38, and is still averaging 30 points a game, pretty insane.
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14733893]This, along with the 4 titles is the reason why he is top 3 at worse.
At his peak he was an elite scorer, passer, & defender. How many guys in history can say they were elite in all 3 of these categories at the same time? His play has no noticeable drop in the postseason, is one of the best big game performers ever, and to add to that his longevity has never been seen before. He just broke the scoring record at age 38, and is still averaging 30 points a game, pretty insane.[/QUOTE]
Magic, Bird, Duncan, Shaq, Kobe are better as well. They all at least won 3 titles for one franchise.
[QUOTE=Full Court;14731574][url]https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2266468[/url]
:roll:
And there it is, folks.
I warned people on here that Lebron wasn't going to magically become GOAT by passing up KAJ. :confusedshrug:
Read it and weep, Bronie fluffers. :lol[/QUOTE]
We stay WINNING
:hammertime:
[QUOTE=sportjames23;14733932]We stay WINNING
:hammertime:[/QUOTE]
You're siding with Full Court. You're not winning anything lol.
To be fair everyone seems to prop up realgm so he gets a win on this one
[QUOTE=nayte;14733940]To be fair everyone seems to prop up realgm so he gets a win on this one[/QUOTE]
Doesn't conclude anything. Random people on the internet you don't know nor know how many times they voted voted on something.
Full Court science 101.
[QUOTE=SATAN;14733941]Doesn't conclude anything. Random people on the internet you don't know nor know how many times they voted voted on something.
Full Court science 101.[/QUOTE]
Which is any internet poll ever
Which begs the question what or who decides these lists
dankok removed my vote and several other poster's votes from a LeBron thread he made. Similar occurrences probably happen all the time.
He probably did but I don't know who or which thread that was and that goes to my question I guess lol
[QUOTE=SATAN;14733941]Doesn't conclude anything. Random people on the internet you don't know nor know how many times they voted voted on something.
Full Court science 101.[/QUOTE]
Which other mainstream media polls seem to agree on.
The Jabronies denial and delusion is real.
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14733857]" '91 Bulls/Pistons series which was 4-0 was just as competitive as the '87 ECF 4-3 series" - full tard.[/QUOTE]
Fancies himself a basketball historian....
and had no clue about the biggest rivalry of an era.
:roll:
:roll:
:lebronamazed:
[QUOTE=SATAN;14733966]dankok removed my vote and several other poster's votes from a LeBron thread he made. Similar occurrences probably happen all the time.[/QUOTE]
Beezleblubber is shook. :lol
And whiny.
[QUOTE=SATAN;14733941]Doesn't conclude anything. Random people on the internet you don't know nor know how many times they voted voted on something.
Full Court science 101.[/QUOTE]
Braindead x mongoloid logic. They even have the autism to think they're so clever. :lebronamazed:
Not any more. CP3 just passed Jordan in total steals, therefore, leapfrogs Jordan in the goat list lol
[QUOTE=kawhileonard2;14733907]Magic, Bird, Duncan, Shaq, Kobe are better as well. They all at least won 3 titles for one franchise.[/QUOTE]
How are they better? He outpaces them in most categories and blows them out the water in some. 3 rings for one franchise is more indicative of the times, players couldn't move as freely for some of those careers. It's a really strange qualifier to have tbfh.
[QUOTE=sdot_thadon;14734015]How are they better? He outpaces them in most categories and blows them out the water in some. 3 rings for one franchise is more indicative of the times, players couldn't move as freely for some of those careers. It's a really strange qualifier to have tbfh.[/QUOTE]
You’re trying to argue with literally the most blatant troll on the forum :lol
[QUOTE=2much_knowledge;14734008]Not any more. CP3 just passed Jordan in total steals, therefore, leapfrogs Jordan in the goat list lol[/QUOTE]
Change your user name immediately.
[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;14734016]You’re trying to argue with literally the most blatant troll on the forum :lol[/QUOTE]
I know but I'm curious as to whether there is any actual basketball discussion there or does he really just post walls of nonsensical junk?
[QUOTE=sdot_thadon;14734148]I know but I'm curious as to whether there is any actual basketball discussion there or does he really just post walls of nonsensical junk?[/QUOTE]the dumb part is Jordan has a great case for goat, but ppl decide to just troll instead. Highest playoff +/-, highest playoff per, highest playoff ppg, 6fmvp, 10 scoring titles, 5 reg season mvp’s, dpoy and countless all nba 1st team and def 1st team selections. That’s a goat resume.
[QUOTE=kawhileonard2;14733907]Magic, Bird, Duncan, Shaq, Kobe are better as well. They all at least won 3 titles for one franchise.[/QUOTE]
Kobe only won 2 for LA..... try to keep up.
OP citing a forum he'd literally get banned from. Lol. That's actually pretty funny
[QUOTE=hateraid;14734171]OP citing a forum he'd literally get banned from. Lol. That's actually pretty funny[/QUOTE]
:roll:
[QUOTE=j3lademaster;14734149]the dumb part is Jordan has a great case for goat, but ppl decide to just troll instead. Highest playoff +/-, highest playoff per, highest playoff ppg, 6fmvp, 10 scoring titles, 5 reg season mvp’s, dpoy and countless all nba 1st team and def 1st team selections. That’s a goat resume.[/QUOTE]
I agree, his case is great and as an Mj fan it kinda annoys me to watch them twist these convoluted narratives when the real truth is very simple with Mj.
[QUOTE=hateraid;14734171]OP citing a forum he'd literally get banned from. Lol. That's actually pretty funny[/QUOTE]
Wait, what? :lol shouldn't even be surprised by that. Full Dork fits the description.
[QUOTE=zeerghit;14731762]so you agree hes 2nd best player ever?[/QUOTE]
This is my opinion but it's probably among the more substance-based GOAT rankings that you will see anywhere.
Given similar talent, certain player types are superior to others - history shows that the best expert jumpshooters and centers had better teammate fits, development, and chemistry, so they needed less help to win and had higher team ceilings/Finals records than the best ball-dominators.
So the best expert jumpshooters > the best centers > the best ball-dominators (based on who won with less)..
So it's MJ, Kobe, Bird, Curry, Russell, Wilt, KAJ, Duncan, Shaq, Magic, Lebron... KD could leapfrog a bunch of people to #5 with a couple more FMVP's
[QUOTE=3ba11;14734190]This is my opinion but it's probably among the more substance-based GOAT rankings that you will see anywhere.
Given similar talent, certain player types are superior to others - history shows that the best expert jumpshooters and centers had better teammate fits, development, and chemistry, so they needed less help to win and had higher team ceilings/Finals records than the best ball-dominators.
So the best expert jumpshooters > the best centers > the best ball-dominators (based on who won with less)..
So it's MJ, Kobe, Bird, Curry, Russell, Wilt, KAJ, Duncan, Shaq, Magic, Lebron... KD could leapfrog a bunch of people to #5 with a couple more FMVP's[/QUOTE]
I need some of that shit you smoking.:lol
[QUOTE=sdot_thadon;14734192]I need some of that shit you smoking.:lol[/QUOTE]
MTF from kynd.. best sativa in vegas and i get from the source
Regardless of whether you agree with my rationale, 20 years of longevity confirmed that Lebron can't have a dynasty, 3-peat or 6 chips with [U]ANY LINEUP[/U], aka objectively inferior to MJ
this is confirmed the longer he plays - his longevity confirms his vast inferiority compared to the modern GOAT standard...
he'll be 1/4 with AD this year, just like 1/4 with Love and 1/4 with Wade except the Allen miracle.. So he's a 1/4 guy regardless of who you put around him.. he literally isn't capable of the GOAT standard regardless of cast, aka objectively inferior to MJ
[QUOTE=3ba11;14734190]This is my opinion but it's probably among the more substance-based GOAT rankings that you will see anywhere.
Given similar talent, certain player types are superior to others - history shows that the best expert jumpshooters and centers had better teammate fits, development, and chemistry, so they needed less help to win and had higher team ceilings/Finals records than the best ball-dominators.
So the best expert jumpshooters > the best centers > the best ball-dominators (based on who won with less)..
So it's MJ, Kobe, Bird, Curry, Russell, Wilt, KAJ, Duncan, Shaq, Magic, Lebron... KD could leapfrog a bunch of people to #5 with a couple more FMVP's[/QUOTE]
Lol, another poster validating the site that banned him :oldlol:
Nothing leBron can do. Even if he won two more titles, MJ would still hold the crown.
Even Michael saying Lebron is the goat for 100million for Nike, won't make Lebron the GOAT.
[QUOTE=3ba11;14734200]MTF from kynd.. best sativa in vegas and i get from the source
Regardless of whether you agree with my rationale, 20 years of longevity confirmed that Lebron can't have a dynasty, 3-peat or 6 chips with [U]ANY LINEUP[/U], aka objectively inferior to MJ
this is confirmed the longer he plays - his longevity confirms his vast inferiority compared to the modern GOAT standard...
he'll be 1/4 with AD this year, just like 1/4 with Love and 1/4 with Wade except the Allen miracle.. So he's a 1/4 guy regardless of who you put around him.. he literally isn't capable of the GOAT standard regardless of cast, aka objectively inferior to MJ[/QUOTE]
Agreed on all points, and intrigued on the 1st.
Shame Jeff don't have DM's for us lol.
Who ruined DM's jeff ?
[QUOTE=Hey Yo;14734160]Kobe only won 2 for LA..... try to keep up.[/QUOTE]
Kobe won 5 titles in LA.
[QUOTE=BarberSchool;14734293]Agreed on all points, and intrigued on the 1st.
Shame Jeff don't have DM's for us lol.
Who ruined DM's jeff ?[/QUOTE]
pedo jameer and his friends tried making some shit knockoff website and was using dm’s to advertise. same reason why the rep system got removed too