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[QUOTE=tpols;14845990]If Kidd played with Donovan Mitchell and KAT and Anthony Edward's he wouldn't have had to take shots like that. And if Gobert played on those 20 win net teams he wouldn't even win 30 games. Whether he shot 5 times a game or 20. They'd be lotto. With Kidd they won the whole conference back to back.

The thing that really blows my mind though is how you hate him despite the fact he took a bottom rank defense and turned them #1 overall literally... immediately when he got there. You're a defense guy. No doubt about it. Yet you're here shitting on one of the best defensive players ever. It's incredible, astounding, and perplexing and probably some other words in the English language all at the same time. You're creating a dent in the time space continuum with your hypocrisy here.[/QUOTE]

I'm a both ends/high iq/unselfish team guy. Kidd taking and missing a bunch of shots to get his triple doubles is something different

can't quit me!

[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;14845996]I'm a both ends/high iq/unselfish team guy. Kidd taking and missing a bunch of shots to get his triple doubles is something different[/QUOTE]

Jason Kidd for his career shot less per game than Ben Simmons in Philly. Did Ben Simmons take “A bunch of shots?” He was an all star talking 8 shots a game. Stocktons lowest attempts in an all star year is higher than Kidds.

Has anyone ever taken the number of shots Kidd took for his career and had it considered a lot? Did you just not see Jason Kidd play basketball most of his career?

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14846024]Jason Kidd for his career shot less per game than Ben Simmons in Philly. Did Ben Simmons take “A bunch of shots?” He was an all star talking 8 shots a game. Stocktons lowest attempts in an all star year is higher than Kidds.

Has anyone ever taken the number of shots Kidd took for his career and had it considered a lot? Did you just not see Jason Kidd play basketball most of his career?[/QUOTE]

Simmons and Stockton both shot high %'s

[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;14846029]Simmons and Stockton both shot high %'s[/QUOTE]


Did they shoot a lot?

Its a pretty simple question.

Did Ben Simmons shoot a lot of shots?

Did Rondo?

Kidd has 2 all star seasons shooting less than 04 or 05 Ben Wallace.

Did Ben Wallace shoot a lot?

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14846031]Did they shoot a lot?

Its a pretty simple question.

Did Ben Simmons shoot a lot of shots?[/QUOTE]

scored 42 on Gobert on 3-7 from the floor!

Yep gunning ass Ben who shot more than Kidd did in 11 seasons despite playing fewer minutes. Cannot keep those guys from chucking.

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14846177]Yep gunning ass Ben who shot more than Kidd did in 11 seasons despite playing fewer minutes. Cannot keep those guys from chucking.[/QUOTE]

why wouldn't you want someone that's never shot under 55% shooting? :facepalm

Would you guys put Horry on these type of lists? He was a below average starter for most of his rings yet some people think he had hof worthy career. He was extremely smart and clutch but also extremely lucky to have played with Goat level Bigmen

[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;14846029]Simmons and Stockton both shot high %'s[/QUOTE]

You're basically the Jazz version of 3ball.

[QUOTE=Reggie43;14846215]Would you guys put Horry on these type of lists? He was a below average starter for most of his rings yet some people think he had hof worthy career. He was extremely smart and clutch but also extremely lucky to have played with Goat level Bigmen[/QUOTE]

No. At some point it isn't luck anymore. Horry had qualities at a role player price that were crucial for 3 different title winning teams. He sure isn't a HOFer, though.

[QUOTE=Overdrive;14846218]No. At some point it isn't luck anymore. Horry had qualities at a role player price that were crucial for 3 different title winning teams. He sure isn't a HOFer, though.[/QUOTE]

He was good but which tier of players would you put him into? Not sure if he was that much better than Rick Fox and Derek Fisher if at all.

[QUOTE=Reggie43;14846228]He was good but which tier of players would you put him into? Not sure if he was that much better than Rick Fox and Derek Fisher if at all.[/QUOTE]

Fox and Fisher at least showed up all year. Horry didn't show up until after the all star break

[QUOTE=Reggie43;14846228]He was good but which tier of players would you put him into? Not sure if he was that much better than Rick Fox and Derek Fisher if at all.[/QUOTE]

Really tough question. I think he had something in him that at his best made him better than both while on average he was not.

[QUOTE=Overdrive;14846236]Really tough question. I think he had something in him that at his best made him better than both while on average he was not.[/QUOTE]

Would you say he was at the level of Warriors Iguodala or Bulls Ron Harper along with Fox and Fisher? High IQ roleplayers with tons of intangibles that barely make mistakes.