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[QUOTE=bladefd;14884455]So it was an invasion by Russia. The "special operation" was the propaganda term.[/QUOTE]
hey man, call it whatever you want at this point.
i've done my best to open your mind to what's really going on over there or at the least give you a different perspective. you don't seem to want to consider it in any regard. you just keep asking gotcha questions. you don't seem interested. so god speed bro.
and i'm sorry i should leave well enough alone but you have very poor reading comprehension skills and ability to intake information. it's almost as if you gloss over people's posts and proceed to say something totally insignificant and beside the point. this is perfectly demonstrated in our exchange above. but whatever, i'm done. you exhaust me.
[QUOTE=diamenz;14884347]it's the ultra-nationalists that still want to fight and unfortunately they hold the most political power. everybody else, including the soldiers and officers, know that the counter-offensive is over as well as is the war. low morale as well as diminished numbers of untrained soldiers spells nothing but doom for the ukrainian army.[/QUOTE]
Bro but thats your opinion, just like i have mine. And i live in lithuania, personally know people from both sides and had absurd amount of discussions with all types of russians and ukrainians. Its legit too long to list general opinions but to sum it up russians are imperialstic as hell with their “ but why we (ex soviets) dont live together anymore everybody was happy” lol but it comes mostly from more stupid russians smarter ones either dont touch it or are against russias agression.
Ukrainians are mixed bag, they in general dont have the best reputation, but they hate russians like crazy now even willing to fight and die and thats the truth. Yeah the country is corrupt as hell and ukrainians are sleezy people but the hate for russians is so strong u have no idea. So all this shit u say about only that only the top echelon wants to fight is incorrect. Stop spreading bs.
And btw got to be aware that if ur trying to get an general view of the conflict from twitter be careful cause that shit is mega pro russia, musk been doing wonders
[QUOTE=diamenz;14884347]it's the ultra-nationalists that still want to fight and unfortunately they hold the most political power. everybody else, including the soldiers and officers, know that the counter-offensive is over as well as is the war. low morale as well as diminished numbers of untrained soldiers spells nothing but doom for the ukrainian army.[/QUOTE]
Russian and Ukraine have been near land locked for almost 2 years now, Russia has made no progress. You think the morale in Russia is high?
[QUOTE=CeltsGarlic;14884512]Bro but thats your opinion, just like i have mine. And i live in lithuania, personally know people from both sides and had absurd amount of discussions with all types of russians and ukrainians. Its legit too long to list general opinions but to sum it up russians are imperialstic as hell with their “ but why we (ex soviets) dont live together anymore everybody was happy” lol but it comes mostly from more stupid russians smarter ones either dont touch it or are against russias agression.
Ukrainians are mixed bag, they in general dont have the best reputation, but they hate russians like crazy now even willing to fight and die and thats the truth. Yeah the country is corrupt as hell and ukrainians are sleezy people but the hate for russians is so strong u have no idea. So all this shit u say about only that only the top echelon wants to fight is incorrect. Stop spreading bs.
And btw got to be aware that if ur trying to get an general view of the conflict from twitter be careful cause that shit is mega pro russia, musk been doing wonders[/QUOTE]
i definitely value your input [B]much[/B] more than an american spewing cable news talking points. :cheers:
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14884513]Russian and Ukraine have been near land locked for almost 2 years now, Russia has made no progress. You think the morale in Russia is high?[/QUOTE]
i've gone over this aspect of the war at least twice in either this thread or the other two ukrainian threads in both this subforum as well as the one in otc.
[QUOTE=diamenz;14884520]i've gone over this aspect of the war at least twice in either this thread or the other two ukrainian threads in both this subforum as well as the one in otc.[/QUOTE]
Please forgive me for not having read over every post on this forum. It was a rhetorical question anyway, it didn't really require your response.
[QUOTE=bladefd;14884431]You are one of us, too!
:cheers:[/QUOTE]
Eh. I am on the less stupid side. :oldlol:
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14884529]It was a rhetorical question anyway, it didn't really require your response.[/QUOTE]
sure it did. you quoted my post and asked a question. i didn't read it as being rhetorical.
[QUOTE]Please forgive me for not having read over every post on this forum. [/QUOTE]
your question is already addressed a mere [B]ONE[/B] page back.
[url]www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?516313-The-Tucker-Carlson-Vladimir-Putin-Interview&p=14883248&viewfull=1#post14883248[/url]
[QUOTE=BurningHammer;14884535]Eh. I am on the less stupid side. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=diamenz;14884520]i definitely value your input much more than an american spewing cable news talking points. [/QUOTE]
I can share 2 random stories from both sides. One is my fathers cousin who buys marble and similar stone in russia and makes graves in lithuania. He has a quarry in karelia which he had to sell because of invasion cause you cant be a lithuanian and do business in russia now, all he got is 4mills even tho its worth way more, but thats not the point. He told us that all around russia ,except moscow and st. peter , there are almost no cops and waay less homeless and drunks cause they all got send to war lol. I cant confirm it, but hes not the lying type nor political and it was told to him by a lot of locals at bars etc.
The other story is I was really surprised in tenerife (spanish island near marocco) when I heard like half the people speaking ukrainian there. They get like a lot of money from eu to live in eu. I dont know the amount maybe Im even incorrect but I was also told this by zelensky hating taxi driver in poland lol
[QUOTE=diamenz;14884458]hey man, call it whatever you want at this point.
i've done my best to open your mind to what's really going on over there or at the least give you a different perspective. you don't seem to want to consider it in any regard. you just keep asking gotcha questions. you don't seem interested. so god speed bro.[/QUOTE]
It was a rhetorical point I made. It's ironic the levels you go to defend clear Russian propaganda, including the "limited special operations" nonsense and "we have no intention of overthrowing the Ukraine government" bs and whatever other nonsense putin has been spouting since 2 years ago. You yourself know what is what, but you don't want to call a duck a duck. You prefer calling it a white bird with yellow beak but not a duck.
Color me cynical at all these (recent) Russian happenings - funny how 2 Russian events pop up in as many days to put pressure on passing Ukraine aid.
[QUOTE=rmt;14885086]Color me cynical at all these (recent) Russian happenings - funny how 2 Russian events pop up in as many days to put pressure on passing Ukraine aid.[/QUOTE]
Might be something right out of the bush/cheney playbook