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[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14956017]My turn now, which one Dooms, A or B?
A. Gay and happy
B. Straight and miserable[/QUOTE]
Using your logic that you used with guns… I’d rather be HIV negative and miserable instead of HIV positive and happy.
No denying that the Gay Community is affected by AIDS more than straight people.
And gay people are super oppressed in 2024… I don’t see how they could be happy
[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;14956023]Using your logic that you used with guns… I’d rather be HIV negative and miserable instead of HIV positive and happy.
No denying that the Gay Community is affected by AIDS more than straight people.[/QUOTE]
So completely ignore the question again.
Just like the last one where the answer was "let's pretend I'm muslim"
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14955998]
Confusing too. So we are pretending you're muslim now for some reason?[/QUOTE]
Muslims & Christians both believe homosexuality is a sin…
But liberals tend to defend the Muslim faith (and their oppression of women)… but if you’re Christian and oppose homosexuality, the average liberal has more of a problem with that compared to the Muslim.
Ill defend freedom of religion not freedom of oppression.
Muslim countries live in the stone ages.Raw conservatives in their purest form.
That is what religion does to society. It prevents progression into the future. It holds society back.
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14956046]Ill defend freedom of religion not freedom of oppression.
Muslim countries live in the stone ages.Raw conservatives in their purest form.
That is what religion does to society. It prevents progression into the future. It holds society back.[/QUOTE]
That's why we have a separation of church & state unlike the Muslim countries.
Either way... anytime I hear somebody use the word F*ggot... I tell that person to be careful, because he could have a gay son one day.
But you on the other hand... are clearly saying it doesn't matter if your son is gay, as long as he is happy.
It matters and you know it.
No logical straight man would want their son to be gay.
And to sit there an pretend like the gay community is only comprised of people that were born that way is foolish.
Environment and Society doesn't have any influence on a child when it comes to sexuality? That's retarded.
If you have a teenage daughter... would you want the school telling her to not engage in sex, or to use condoms & birth control?
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Society & Environment had no influence on these growing statics whatsoever.
Any child or teenager that declares him or herself to be LGTBQ was obviously born that way.
But hey, as long as the children are happy right? That's all that matters.
Congratulations on your accomplishments liberals... each generation is becoming more & more gay and we should call it PROGRESS.
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14956017]My turn now, which one Dooms, A or B?
A. Gay and happy
B. Straight and miserable[/QUOTE]
the answer is easily B.
Jack from The Wonder Years was completely miserable everyday... looked like he was living in hell.
But his duty as a father, husband, provider, protector was more important than his own happiness. Duty > Happiness
Compare Jack from The Wonder Years... who is your basic miserable middle-class married conservative man with kids... and compare him to the happiest gay person of all time.
Which one you going with?
But here we are in 2024... And we want our children to become more liberal than they already are? It's still not enough?
It's becoming a joke honestly... and the joke is on America.
[b]The goal in life... is to raise your children to have conservative values... not liberal values.[/b]
They don't have to be Christian Values... but they damn sure need to be Conservative as opposed to Liberal.
If you are lucky... you're children will have conservative values at an early age... that's if you're lucky... and that goes for any race or religion.
Again:
'If You Are Not a Liberal When You Are Young, You Have No Heart, and If You Are Not a Conservative When Old, You Have No Brain'
A lot of you adult liberals have lost your minds, all common sense, and idk if TDS is to blame here... but it's starting to become insanity some of things you guys support.
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Even more meltdowns.
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[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14956000]
One side stands with love, and the other side stands with hate.
Choose wisely, because your choice will stand for eternity.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;14956620][url]https://x.com/NewEmergingKing/status/1856082741651222703?t=jYwASWDhr1MnTI8XSfuB9A&s=19[/url][/QUOTE]
He doesn't show the two threads. Anyone familiar with Twitter knows that it is primarily a conservative platform now. Read under any Kamala tweet, or any prominent liberal tweet and you'll see some pure hatred toward her in the comments. Just look on this forum, you can find "conservatives" calling liberals the scourge of society, mentally ill, the reason for every problem in the country, etc. You are guilty of it yourself.
But that comment you quoted wasn't even about how the two sides act. Both sides have sinners. Every human is a sinner. Both are capable of hatred. But what they STAND FOR is different. One side wants you to keep families in need out, while the other side wants you to let them in. One side wants you to fear gays, the other side wants you to love them. One side wants you to have more guns, the other side doesn't.
You said yourself that Trump is the Anti-Christ. This is what the Bible warned you about. It's slapping you right in the face. But you found some bad liberals to point at as an excuse to praise the Anti-Christ. It might fool people in here, but it's not going to fool Christ himself.
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14956627]You said yourself that Trump is the Anti-Christ. This is what the Bible warned you about. It's slapping you right in the face. But you found some bad liberals to point at as an excuse to praise the Anti-Christ. It might fool people in here, but it's not going to fool Christ himself.[/QUOTE]
If you are living in the Matrix you should want Donald Trump to be president... liberals dislike him for the wrong reasons. We can agree that he is conman... but for different reasons. If we disliked him for the same reasons that would make you a conspiracy theorist or a Christian and you are neither. Christians that voted for Trump are at fault for not being able use spiritual discernment... Liberals have already dismissed Christ, so their deception is of a different kind since they have already been led astray spiritually. Christian Conservatives are the ones that require a False Prophet... and that's what we got now unfortunately.
The point I'd like to make here: is that Trump would not have risen to power if the Democratic Party wasn't as awful as they are. Trump is embraced and has been given a pass by conservatives to be politically incorrect because The Left has gotten so out of control... and that's why it's now called the "ALT Right". The Alternative Right has done away with political correctness, as they should, only because Liberals have finally forced their hand.
If you want to hate on Trump so bad... hate him for the way he handled Covid19... hate him for the right reasons. Instead of making everything about race, sex, gender and identity which has become absolute nonsense, recognize the fact that equal opportunity has existed in America for damn near half a century... and the only thing that matters right now is employment, which Democrats have gotten that one wrong too.
The only people that have any oppression in America the past 50 years are illegal immigrants... which is a whole different subject... "I want them to come into the USA, I just want them to come in the right way" is what Trump said. I have family that had to go back and come in the legal way... but everyone else can just come over? No, doesn't work that way... especially if I had to go through the process myself.
[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;14956777]If you want to hate on Trump so bad... hate him for the way he handled Covid19... hate him for the right reasons.
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I think Trump realizes he made a couple mistakes with how he handled Covid-19. But at least he made decisions that he thought was good at the time. Put a democrat President in, they would make decisions based on how to become a dictator and communist.
[QUOTE=AKA_AAP;14956791]I think Trump realizes he made a couple mistakes with how he handled Covid-19. But at least he made decisions that he thought was good at the time. Put a democrat President in, they would make decisions based on how to become a dictator and communist.[/QUOTE]
yea but in my opinion Trump damn near went full socialist... granted there was a crisis... you can't spend $4 Trillion in one year (Biden with another $4 Trillion the following year) for a situation like that.
The solution ended up being more catastrophic for America than the virus... or at least it was for the lower-middle class folks who can't afford $hit now.
So I don't put the full blame of inflation on Biden. Trump was guilty there too.
There is only one man who would've handled Covid19 the appropriate way and that is Ron Paul...
and he would've told everyone to go f*ck themselves, you're not getting $8 Trillion Dollars to fight Covid, Good Luck, you're on your own.
[video=youtube;ZKRdfvSUyuU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKRdfvSUyuU&t=44s[/video]
Ben Shapiro reacts to the best medial meltdowns so far.
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More. :lol
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democrats are hosting State Department cry sessions. :lol :cry::cry::cry:
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[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;14956840]yea but in my opinion Trump damn near went full socialist... granted there was a crisis... you can't spend $4 Trillion in one year (Biden with another $4 Trillion the following year) for a situation like that.
The solution ended up being more catastrophic for America than the virus... or at least it was for the lower-middle class folks who can't afford $hit now.
So I don't put the full blame of inflation on Biden. Trump was guilty there too.
There is only one man who would've handled Covid19 the appropriate way and that is Ron Paul...
and he would've told everyone to go f*ck themselves, you're not getting $8 Trillion Dollars to fight Covid, Good Luck, you're on your own.[/QUOTE]
You can completely remove covid from the equation and Trump was still one of the most socialist POTUS we've had. He spent billions bailing out farmers during his admin, they wouldn't have been able to survive without Government help. And that is the general story across the board. The red states receive the most federal aid by far.
It's poor whites that get most gov aid, and it's poor whites who are the most anti-Gov aid.
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14960655][B]You can completely remove covid from the equation and Trump was still one of the most socialist POTUS we've had.[/B] He spent billions bailing out farmers during his admin, they wouldn't have been able to survive without Government help. And that is the general story across the board. The red states receive the most federal aid by far.
It's poor whites that get most gov aid, and it's poor whites who are the most anti-Gov aid.[/QUOTE]
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This separates covid spending from other spending. Granted that other spending breaks down into all sorts of things but Trump was handing out a lot of money.
If we are measuring socialism by handouts, which is probably a semantics debate over what "socialism" really means to you. But for Doomsday it is obviously giving out money.
And that is the reality, the anti-communist POTUS is the most communist.
You don't have the slightest idea what socialism means :roll:
Continue getting in a pissing contest with MAGA over which one of your idols is more of a spooky scary communist if you want, you just look totally politically illiterate.
[QUOTE=RRR3;14960673]You don't have the slightest idea what socialism means :roll:
Continue getting in a pissing contest with MAGA over which one of your idols is more of a spooky scary communist if you want, you just look totally politically illiterate.[/QUOTE]
Yep semantics. Socialism can come in all sorts of forms, we have always been partly socialist as we have always have handouts such as food stamps and welfare programs. However it is that you define socialism, doesn't mean that Trump giving out a ton doesn't fall into the same category.
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14960677]Yep semantics. Socialism can come in all sorts of forms, we have always been partly socialist as we have always have handouts such as food stamps and welfare programs. However it is that you define socialism, doesn't mean that Trump giving out a ton doesn't fall into the same category.[/QUOTE]
You genuinely have no idea what you're talking about :lol
[QUOTE=RRR3;14960679]You genuinely have no idea what you're talking about :lol[/QUOTE]how would you define socialism and what real world examples would you give of socialism then?
I think what Bill Gates said is fine. Definitions exists so we have agreed upon meanings of words when we converse, and words like socialism and communism has been bastardized throughout the years to mean totally different things, but in the context of the conversation, when he says ‘socialism’ you know what he means so is there a point in nitpicking to such a degree?
Socialism means a worker controlled economy. That has absolutely nothing to do with Trump and his corporate dicksucking. People misusing words doesn't change their definition.
In it's most simple explanation, and the way Doomsday and probably every other right leaning poster here views it, Socialism is spreading out wealth by taxing the wealthy and giving it to the unwealthy. Which in theory helps close the wealth gaps.
Like I said earlier, socialism comes in a plethora of forms. And I am sure RRR3 has a more advanced view of the term, or so he claims anyway. That doesn't mean that what I have said is off, or didn't directly address what Doomsday was getting at.
Even by your insane definition of socialism Trump was far from it considering wealth inequality was horrible when he was president. The only people he helped were the rich.
All of his handouts funneled directly to the rich, yes. So I agree that is who he helped the most.
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14960690]All of his handouts funneled directly to the rich, yes. So I agree that is who he helped the most.[/QUOTE]
Which is the antithesis of socialism. Learn definitions please.
[QUOTE=RRR3;14960692]Which is the antithesis of socialism. Learn definitions please.[/QUOTE]
I am not trying to declare that Trump is an actual socialist, he is far from it obviously. We have never had a real socialist POTUS. The gist of Doomsday's post was that Trump gave out the most free money. And he is correct there. What you are debating is pure semantics, just the definition of socialism. If you want to call free handouts some other word, go right ahead it doesn't matter.
Handouts to the rich is capitalism, not socialism. Again, learn definitions. This is like someone arguing that bowling is the same as baseball because they both involve strikes.
[QUOTE=RRR3;14960694]Handouts to the rich is capitalism, not socialism. Again, learn definitions. This is like someone arguing that bowling is the same as baseball because they both involve strikes.[/QUOTE]
When you dump a trillion dollars on the poor, they are going to immediately spend that money, and it is going to go directly to a rich man. In the process though, those poor people get fed. That is a start. Where Trump fails to be a real socialist is that he doesn't continue to tax the rich man and give it back to the poor in an infinite cycle. He just let the rich man keep it. So yes you are right, Trump is not a real socialist, but he did give out the most which was what Doomsday was getting at.
Actually my example of the farmers bailout, where Trump was continually bailing out farmers year after year with billions in tax money. It isn't far off.
[QUOTE=RRR3;14960694]Handouts to the rich is capitalism, not socialism. Again, learn definitions. This is like someone arguing that bowling is the same as baseball because they both involve strikes.[/QUOTE]Handouts of any kind are the antithesis of capitalism.
[QUOTE=RRR3;14960681][B]Socialism means a worker controlled economy.[/B] That has absolutely nothing to do with Trump and his corporate dicksucking. People misusing words doesn't change their definition.[/QUOTE]
How does that work... like unions?
[QUOTE=Charlie Sheen;14960707]How does that work... like unions?[/QUOTE]
It really depends on who you ask based upon the strain of socialism they subscribe to, but that would definitely be the syndicalist answer, yes.
[QUOTE=j3lademaster;14960704]Handouts of any kind are the antithesis of capitalism.[/QUOTE]
Yeah no the government bailing out corporations, banks, etc. is very capitalist.