How about YOU and MAGA get off your ass and protest instead of demanding that others do it?
That is what I want to see.
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How about YOU and MAGA get off your ass and protest instead of demanding that others do it?
That is what I want to see.
[QUOTE=Off the Court;15017181]How about YOU and MAGA get off your ass and protest instead of demanding that others do it?
That is what I want to see.[/QUOTE]
I'm not demanding protest... I'm just saying Liberals got played with the quote unquote "No Kings" manufactured movement.
you don't find the timing of the event a little too convenient?
As millions upon millions upon millions are marching in the streets from coast to coast city to city defending illegal immigration ... Israel is raining bombs over Iran.
I'm looking forward to seeing the same energy with these anti-zionist protests.
[QUOTE=Off the Court;15017181]How about YOU and MAGA get off your ass and protest instead of demanding that others do it?
That is what I want to see.[/QUOTE]
he's trying to call out hypocrisy from the opposing party but completely ignores how much of MAGA stayed silent and/or fell in line with trump during this entire ordeal.
[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;15017187]I'm not demanding protest... I'm just saying Liberals got played with the quote unquote "No Kings" manufactured movement.
you don't find the timing of the event a little too convenient?
As millions upon millions upon millions are marching in the streets from coast to coast city to city defending illegal immigration ... Israel is raining bombs over Iran.
I'm looking forward to seeing the same energy with these anti-zionist protests.[/QUOTE]
It was like a week after. I do not think the timing was that special no. I do not think that Trump or the US Gov cared that much about them either. What weird conspiracy angle are you going for? They started a war to make everyone forget about deporting illegals?
[QUOTE=highwhey;15017188]he's trying to call out hypocrisy from the opposing party but completely ignores how much of MAGA stayed silent and/or fell in line with trump during this entire ordeal.[/QUOTE]
Yes they are the sheep here.
MAGA is basically anti-protest :oldlol:
MUST OBEY TRUMP, POINT FINGER AT LIBERALS AND NOT AT SELF
[QUOTE=highwhey;15017188]he's trying to call out hypocrisy from the opposing party but completely ignores how much of MAGA stayed silent and/or fell in line with trump during this entire ordeal.[/QUOTE]
[b]Israel launches surprise attack on Iran June 13[/b]
thread title:
[b]No Kings Nationwide Protest June 14 Everywhere in AMERICA[/b]
That's not convenient at all.
[QUOTE=Off the Court;15017191]Yes they are the sheep here.
MAGA is basically anti-protest :oldlol:
MUST OBEY TRUMP, POINT FINGER AT LIBERALS AND NOT AT SELF[/QUOTE]
First of all, I'm not a MAGA or Trump apologist....
All I'm saying is that No Kings did in fact serve as a distraction for what Israel was doing.
Half of America was defending border jumpers on the day HOLY WAR broke out in the Middle East.
And because there is a growing anti-Israeli sentiment growing within the liberal community... NO Kings served it's purpose: Theatrically & Deception
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Distraction for a week? I mean, what do they gain from that? Trump isn't up for reelection, he can do whatever he wants. They don't care what we think. They don't give a shit which headlines we are looking at.
I'll tell you what did get lost in all this though, the fact that Trump was exposed for raping children on Epstein Island.
****TRUMP BOMBS IRAN****
Doomsday Dallas : "I wonder what liberals are doing!"
That is the distraction :roll:
[QUOTE=Off the Court;15017198]Distraction for a week? I mean, what do they gain from that? Trump isn't up for reelection, he can do whatever he wants. They don't care what we think. They don't give a shit which headlines we are looking at.[/QUOTE]
Is this about Trump? or is this about Israel?
No, Trump can't do whatever he wishes because he's in his final term...
Your basically saying that propaganda isn't needed now that Trump is in his final 4 years... as if he's the one in need of propaganda.
[QUOTE=Off the Court;15017198] I'll tell you what did get lost in all this though, the fact that Trump was exposed for raping children on Epstein Island. [/QUOTE]
There you go.... now you're starting to think.
You make a good point.... the Epstein drama did get lost in the fire.
[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;15017210]Is this about Trump? or is this about Israel?
No, Trump can't do whatever he wishes because he's in his final term...
Your basically saying that propaganda isn't needed now that Trump is in his final 4 years... as if he's the one in need of propaganda.
There you go.... now you're starting to think.
You make a good point.... the Epstein drama did get lost in the fire.[/QUOTE]
So if the No Kings never happened all this Iran war stuff would be different? :oldlol:
Propaganda isn't needed like it used to be. And when it is needed, it's usually for a vote. The WW2 era is long gone, where Hitler and Stalin and Roosevelt needed mass propaganda to convince troops to give their lives for a cause. We don't need enormous mass units of infantry like that any more. We just bomb shit to hell and then maybe send in some guys to stand guard, but I don't think we are even doing that here.
The Epstein stuff did get lost, I doubt purposefully. I mean, we are humans, it is hard to give all the major issues equal amounts of attention. War broke out, are we supposed to just ignore that and keep the focus on Epstein? Should we give one issue 60% attention and the other 40%?
I think that mostly, what our brains are focused on, or are not focused on, means little to them. Unless they need us to vote them in office, then they care deeply what we think.
[QUOTE=Off the Court;15017213]
Propaganda isn't needed like it used to be. And when it is needed, it's usually for a vote. The WW2 era is long gone, where Hitler and Stalin and Roosevelt needed mass propaganda to convince troops to give their lives for a cause.[/QUOTE]
actually... it got much worse in the 50's & 60's... propaganda is basically psychological warfare. It doesn't have to be legal.
[quote]COINTELPRO (a syllabic abbreviation derived from Counter Intelligence Program) was a series of covert and illegal[1][2][3] projects conducted between 1956 and 1971 by the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) aimed at surveilling, [b]infiltrating, discrediting, and disrupting American political organizations that the FBI perceived as subversive.[/b][4][5][6][7] Groups and individuals targeted by the FBI included feminist organizations,[8][9] the Communist Party USA,[10] anti-Vietnam War organizers, activists in the civil rights and Black power movements (e.g., Martin Luther King Jr., Malcolm X, and the Black Panther Party), environmentalist and animal rights organizations, the American Indian Movement (AIM), Chicano and Mexican-American groups like the Brown Berets and the United Farm Workers, and independence movements (including Puerto Rican independence groups, such as the Young Lords and the Puerto Rican Socialist Party). Although the program primarily focused on organizations that were part of the broader New Left, they also targeted white supremacist groups, such as the Ku Klux Klan[11][12] and the National States' Rights Party.[13]
The FBI engaged in covert operations targeting domestic political groups from its earliest years. Covert operations under the official COINTELPRO label took place between 1956 and 1971. However, the official chronology of the program is the subject of debate. According to a senate investigation, "If COINTELPRO had been a short-lived aberration, the thorny problems of motivation, techniques, and control presented might be safely relegated to history. However, COINTELPRO existed for years on an 'ad hoc basis before the formal programs were instituted, and more significantly, COINTELPRO-type activities may continue today under the rubric of 'investigation."[14] Many of the tactics used in COINTELPRO are alleged to have seen continued use, [b]including discrediting targets through psychological warfare[/b]; [b]smearing individuals and groups[/b] using forged documents and by planting false reports in the media; harassment; wrongful imprisonment; illegal violence; and assassination.[15][16][17][18] According to a Senate report, the FBI's motivation was "protecting national security, preventing violence, and maintaining the existing social and political order".[14] [/quote]
It is rumored that Charles Manson was used as a propaganda force to help end the hippie movement. But that's crazy to suggest right?
That is the US Gov trying to diffuse political movements. Not create them. Which is the opposite of what you are suggesting with No Kings. I don't know anything about the Manson stuff, did they need a vote though? What was the motive to make hippies go away?
That is akin to Trump smearing "woke" IMO
[QUOTE=Off the Court;15017216]That is the US Gov trying to diffuse political movements. Not create them. Which is the opposite of what you are suggesting with No Kings.[/QUOTE]
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No Kings would be like creating a hippie movement, the opposite of destroying it. And you are suggesting that No Kings was created to distract us all from the Israel and Iran war right? Or do you even know what you are suggesting beyond just conspiracies are happening? What do you think that No Kings ultimately accomplished for the US Gov?
[QUOTE=Off the Court;15017220]No Kings would be like creating a hippie movement, the opposite of destroying it. And you are suggesting that No Kings was created to distract us all from the Israel and Iran war right? Or do you even know what you are suggesting beyond just conspiracies are happening? What do you think that No Kings ultimately accomplished for the US Gov?[/QUOTE]
[video=youtube;mdSE3g8zLnE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdSE3g8zLnE[/video]
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leah_Greenberg[/url]
[quote]Greenberg was raised in Chevy Chase, Maryland. She is Jewish.[/quote]
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Levin[/url]
[quote]Levin grew up in Buda, Texas. He is Jewish.[/quote]
How convenient.
So a group of Jews who are backed by George Soros ($7.6M really not much money) started No Kings to distract the American people from Israel? And that accomplished what? Like what did they ultimately get out of it?
If No Kings had never happened, how would any of this be different?
No Kings was primarily fueled from everyone seeing their coworker being deported because they didn't re-up their work visa. And small business owners seeing ICE taking their work force away.
[QUOTE=Off the Court;15017198]Distraction for a week? I mean, what do they gain from that?[/QUOTE]
What happened in that week?
It was Israel launching an attack for a full week up until it became America's problem.
Now who are we protesting? It's definitely not Israel or the Jews... It's now a protest against America for launching an attack against Iran.
Yes, instead of libtards creating a million tic toc / youtube videos and tweets... voicing their opinions about how evil Israel is.... they were focused on ICE. HEAVILY focused on ICE. Nationwide protest focused.
a week later.... Now it's shifted back to America and it's attack on Iran.
SO once again.... it's shame on Trump instead of shame on Israel.... and if weren't for No Kings, there's no telling how many liberals would be shouting death Israel instead of death to ICE.
Israel declaring war on Iran is a pretty f*cking big deal given the circumstances with Palestinians here lately. Yes, a distraction was needed to contain Israeli resentment from the Left.
[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;15017275]What happened in that week?
It was Israel launching an attack for a full week up until it became America's problem.
Now who are we protesting? It's definitely not Israel or the Jews... It's now a protest against America for launching an attack against Iran.
Yes, instead of libtards creating a million tic toc / youtube videos and tweets... voicing their opinions about how evil Israel is.... they were focused on ICE. HEAVILY focused on ICE. Nationwide protest focused.
a week later.... Now it's shifted back to America and it's attack on Iran.
SO once again.... it's shame on Trump instead of shame on Israel.... [B]and if weren't for No Kings, there's no telling how many liberals would be shouting death Israel instead of death to ICE. [/B]
Israel declaring war on Iran is a pretty f*cking big deal given the circumstances with Palestinians here lately. Yes, a distraction was needed to contain Israeli resentment from the Left.[/QUOTE]
So that's it? The entire difference is "liberals shouting"? :oldlol:
They don't give a shit about that.
[url]https://defence-blog.com/trump-gives-iran-60-days-on-nuclear-talks/[/url]
[I]"Trump has given Iran a 60-day deadline to demonstrate progress in nuclear negotiations or face potential military consequences"[/I]
that is from April
Trump gave them 60 days, or face military action. He was going to do it no matter how hard, and how many, liberals shouted about it.
[QUOTE=Off the Court;15017283]So that's it? The entire difference is "liberals shouting"? :oldlol:
They don't give a shit about that.
[url]https://defence-blog.com/trump-gives-iran-60-days-on-nuclear-talks/[/url]
[I]"Trump has given Iran a 60-day deadline to demonstrate progress in nuclear negotiations or face potential military consequences"[/I]
that is from April
Trump gave them 60 days, or face military action. He was going to do it no matter how hard, and how many, liberals shouted about it.[/QUOTE]
Again you're making it about Trump.... This is about Israel.
either way.... an event titled "No Kings" organized by Jews is rather comical.... They get offended whenever Jesus is declared King of Jews.... so "No Kings" is fitting.
If you don't think there a propaganda war in place in regards to how Israel is perceived in the West... that's your prerogative
[video=youtube_share;-K-yqXbxYq8]https://youtu.be/-K-yqXbxYq8[/video]
I think she is talking about a propaganda war between Israel and Iran, and the populations there. Not society in the US, because she also says the US is in bed with Israel and this war was going to happen no matter what because "what Bibi Netanyahu wants Bibi Netanyahu gets".
And I wasn't making it about Trump, I was showing you that he had planned on this a long time ago. And it didn't matter what liberals think.
[QUOTE=Off the Court;15017310]I think she is talking about a propaganda war between Israel and Iran, and the populations there. Not society in the US, because she also says the US is in bed with Israel and this war was going to happen no matter what because "what Bibi Netanyahu wants Bibi Netanyahu gets".
And I wasn't making it about Trump, I was showing you that he had planned on this a long time ago. And it didn't matter what liberals think.[/QUOTE]
"what Bibi Netanyahu wants Bibi Netanyahu gets" thorough means of propaganda.
while it may not matter what liberals think of Trump, it does matter what liberals think of Israel....
Bush had 9/11 and still had to have his administration lie their asses off about WMD's in Iraq to justify an invasion.
You can't just disregard public opinion and do whatever the f*ck you want.
Everything can get exposed years down the road...and then nobody will give a f*ck.... but as the events are unfolding, a propaganda force is needed to justify your actions.
TheMan just posted a piece of CNN propaganda. It's hilarious what Van Jones is saying.
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?521910-Fox-News-and-CNN-up-to-their-old-bag-of-tricks-again[/url]
[QUOTE=Off the Court;15017248]No Kings was primarily fueled from everyone seeing their coworker being deported because they didn't re-up their work visa. And small business owners seeing ICE taking their work force away.[/QUOTE]
Everyone in that protest is paid to be part of that protest. Everyday Americans don't give a shit about someone being deported. These are all paid actors out there.
Off The Court do you honestly think that anyone who attended these protests were disenfranchised Trump voters? Lol. Maybe at best I could give you 1%.
The masses are not on your side. Trump won the popular vote for a reason.
[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;15017374]Everyone in that protest is paid to be part of that protest. Everyday Americans don't give a shit about someone being deported. These are all paid actors out there.[/QUOTE]
Then why didn't your fat ass show up at a protest, get paid, then post your check here.
You F#cking Liar.
[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;15017331]"what Bibi Netanyahu wants Bibi Netanyahu gets" thorough means of propaganda.
while it may not matter what liberals think of Trump, it does matter what liberals think of Israel....
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No, that is not what she is saying. :facepalm Israel has the US GOVERNMENT in their control. Not through propaganda. They have them in their back pocket.
She is literally saying that the war was going to happen no matter what, regardless of propaganda.
the "propaganda war" she is talking about, is Iran and it's people, and Israel and it's people. NOT THE U.S. PEOPLE.
The idea that the U.S. actually cares what we think is giving them WAY TOO MUCH CREDIT.
They care what we think when we vote, that is when all the propaganda is unleashed. That is when they use an illegal eating someone's cat as propaganda. After that? We are an after thought. They do not care.
This war is going to go do with or without protests, or liberals screaming, or any of it.
[QUOTE=Off the Court;15017465]The idea that the U.S. actually cares what we think is giving them WAY TOO MUCH CREDIT.
They care what we think when we vote, that is when all the propaganda is unleashed. That is when they use an illegal eating someone's cat as propaganda. After that? We are an after thought. They do not care.
This war is going to go do with or without protests, or liberals screaming, or any of it.[/QUOTE]
So we only get a dose of propaganda every 4 years?… ok, keep believing that.
There’s not going to be any propaganda in 2025… ok sure.
At this point it feels like I’m being trolled with your comments.
[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;15017520]So we only get a dose of propaganda every 4 years?… ok, keep believing that.
There’s not going to be any propaganda in 2025… ok sure.
At this point it feels like I’m being trolled with your comments.[/QUOTE]
Your idea that they need approval from liberals first before they do anything is the trolling. :oldlol:
Like if it wasn't for the No Kings distraction, liberals would have stopped all this Iran Israel mess by screaming about it!
[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;15017374]Everyone in that protest is paid to be part of that protest. Everyday Americans don't give a shit about someone being deported. These are all paid actors out there.[/QUOTE]
Based on what? Poopsie's opinion?
Sorry Fatty Patty, we all hate Trump for free.
[QUOTE=Off the Court;15017558]Your idea that they need approval from liberals first before they do anything is the trolling. :oldlol:
Like if it wasn't for the No Kings distraction, liberals would have stopped all this Iran Israel mess by screaming about it![/QUOTE]
quick google search -
[b]Psychological warfare :[/b] involves the planned use of propaganda and other psychological operations to influence the opinions, emotions, attitudes, and behavior of opposition groups.
So you're telling me.... none of this happens in 2025?
And where did I say a No Kings distraction is the only way Israel could pop off on Iran? Jesus Christ Man.... It was a distraction, nothing more nothing less.
Hell... I'd argue TDS is a planned psychological operation.... It's so bad you guys were never once critical of Biden or anything he did. Free Pass the whole way.
for once I will agree that Leftists are the oppressed victims that they claim to be. How could anybody stay on the Democratic Plantation? TDS is the only reason.
[video=youtube;xvIQzVvgHdM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvIQzVvgHdM[/video]
That's what you said. Okay explain EXACTLY, what was accomplished with the planned distraction of No Kings. What did they gain?
If your answer is "less liberals screaming" I'm going to tell you once again, they don't give a shit about that. You need something real.
[QUOTE=Off the Court;15017660]That's what you said. Okay explain EXACTLY, what was accomplished with the planned distraction of No Kings. What did they gain?
If your answer is "less liberals screaming" I'm going to tell you once again, they don't give a shit about that. You need something real.[/QUOTE]
I've already explained it...
yes, less dissent towards Israel is my answer.
Have all the dissent towards Trump that you want... but not the REAL KING which is Zion.
No Kings also reinforces the idea that Trump is King, and not Israel.
You're over there acting like public opinion isn't important because there is no election.
Jesus Christ.... even TYT can call out propaganda when they see it.
Do you really think all these leftist MSM outlets are out there defending Trump's decision? .... No, they are defending Israel.
[video=youtube;Ind479KwRG8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ind479KwRG8[/video]
Neither Israel nor Iran give the slightest shit about "liberal dissent" all the way on the other side of the planet. Sorry.
The U.S. doesn't care either. You should listen to the Candice Owens vid you posted where she explains it was going to happen no matter what.
[QUOTE=Off the Court;15017720]Neither Israel nor Iran give the slightest shit about "liberal dissent" all the way on the other side of the planet. Sorry.
The U.S. doesn't care either. You should listen to the Candice Owens vid you posted where she explains it was going to happen no matter what.[/QUOTE]
you're right.... nobody gives a $hit about antisemitism.
Jews could care less if the majority of Americans think they are committing genocide or any war crimes.
No justification needed, No propaganda needed.... just Bomb Iran, act aggressive as you want, and who gives a $hit about public opinion. Kill as many Palestinians as you want.
Israel doesn't depend on the USA for anything... smh... so who cares if the Americans look at Israel unfavorably? That makes sense.
It's going to happen anyway right? So if it's going to happen... we don't need any distractions in the media, any propaganda, any justification.... just Bomb's away and f*ck what you think about it.
In this particular situation? That is literally correct.
If you think No Kings changed the outcome of any of this war? Because of American dissent levels? You're clueless.
Really though "bombs away and f@#k what you think" has basically been every war with the US since WW2.
[QUOTE=Off the Court;15017732]Really though "bombs away and f@#k what you think" has basically been every war with the US since WW2.[/QUOTE]
We should've just invaded Cuba.... why go through all that trouble?
smh.
[video=youtube;6Q72O7AT6AE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q72O7AT6AE[/video]