White House will host a UFC fight on the front lawn

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[QUOTE=highwhey;15020639]while i agree a ufc event is better in every way than a tranny event, the term "classy" is not something i would ever use to describe the ufc. it's base demographic is white trash hillbillies. i'd ask, why not hold a boxing fight, but i know why...because the best boxers aren't white :oldlol:[/QUOTE]


Bro you realize for boxing the current Heavyweight champ of the world is a white guy right? And the guy he beat was a white guy too. Usyk and Tyson Fury.

And ironically enough the champion of MMA UFC is a black guy. Jon Jones.

You really have things backwards here. Even your boy from Mehico Canelo is a straight up gringo genetically.

[QUOTE=tpols;15020782]Bro you realize for boxing the current Heavyweight champ of the world is a white guy right? And the guy he beat was a white guy too. Usyk and Tyson Fury.

And ironically enough the champion of MMA UFC is a black guy. Jon Jones.

You really have things backwards here. Even your boy from Mehico Canelo is a straight up gringo genetically.[/QUOTE]

He's also wrong about the fanbase of UFC being "white trash hillbillies". Guy lives in his made up bubble. Go to any bar or any casino on a fight night and you'll see dudes from all walks of life who are heavy into UFC. It isn't Nascar. Look at all the big time celebs that show up to all the PPV's.

That would be like saying the core fanbase of NBA Basketball is "black trash n-words".

[QUOTE=tpols;15020782]Bro you realize for boxing the current Heavyweight champ of the world is a white guy right? And the guy he beat was a white guy too. Usyk and Tyson Fury.

And ironically enough the champion of MMA UFC is a black guy. Jon Jones.

You really have things backwards here. Even your boy from Mehico Canelo is a straight up gringo genetically.[/QUOTE]

Jon Jones is retired.

And lol at white people trying to claim Canelo. Look at his brothers, darker skinned with black hair.

[IMG]https://www.wbaboxing.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/guinness-canelo.jpeg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Baller234;15020797]He's also wrong about the fanbase of UFC being "white trash hillbillies". Guy lives in his made up bubble. Go to any bar or any casino on a fight night and you'll see dudes from all walks of life who are heavy into UFC. It isn't Nascar. Look at all the big time celebs that show up to all the PPV's.

That would be like saying the core fanbase of NBA Basketball is "black trash n-words".[/QUOTE]

It isn't Nascar, but I would guess the UFC crowd is like 90% males in between age 20-40. Not many females that are big into MMA. I would also say it has probably gained more respect as a sport over the years.

It's PPV sales have fallen off a cliff though. Not sure who is to blame there, PPV in general seems dead to me. Anyone here dishing out $80 for a UFC match? Going all out political probably didn't help. And maybe people are just losing interest in general. McGregor, Lesnar, Spider Silva days seem like the peak to me.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15020799]Jon Jones is retired.

And lol at white people trying to claim Canelo. Look at his brothers, darker skinned with black hair.

[IMG]https://www.wbaboxing.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/guinness-canelo.jpeg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

He inherited like 99% white genes bro. Sometimes siblings lean one side or another but even in that pic his brothers all look completely Caucasian as well. White people have dark hair too dude. I have dark brown hair and I'm Irish. Some of my family members on German side have black hair.

[QUOTE=Off the Court;15020813]It isn't Nascar, but I would guess the UFC crowd is like 90% males in between age 20-40. Not many females that are big into MMA. I would also say it has probably gained more respect as a sport over the years.

It's PPV sales have fallen off a cliff though. Not sure who is to blame there, PPV in general seems dead to me. Anyone here dishing out $80 for a UFC match? Going all out political probably didn't help. And maybe people are just losing interest in general. McGregor, Lesnar, Spider Silva days seem like the peak to me.[/QUOTE]

Okay so if UFC is male oriented what's the problem? Why is that a bad thing? UFC has mostly male fans so it's not legitimate?

And what makes you think becoming more political hurt UFC? The soy boys that vote liberal and don't like Donald Trump most likely weren't watching to begin with.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15020821]Okay so if UFC is male oriented what's the problem? Why is that a bad thing? UFC has mostly male fans so it's not legitimate?

And what makes you think becoming more political hurt UFC? The soy boys that vote liberal and don't like Donald Trump most likely weren't watching to begin with.[/QUOTE]

Aligning with a political party is horrible business. And wrong, there were plenty of left-leaning males into it (like me) just like there are lots of left-leaning athletes in the NBA, NFL, and MLB. Look at Zuck, he is into it and he has a ginormous left leaning base that would follow him into it.

Look at what happened to Tesla. Or BUD Light, or any of them.

This is why Jeff Bezos steers clear of making any political statements. He is protecting Amazon.

[QUOTE=Off the Court;15020824]Aligning with a political party is horrible business. And wrong, there were plenty of left-leaning males into it (like me) just like there are lots of left-leaning athletes in the NBA, NFL, and MLB. Look at Zuck, he is into it and he has a ginormous left leaning base that would follow him into it.

Look at what happened to Tesla. Or BUD Light, or any of them.

This is why Jeff Bezos steers clear of making any political statements. He is protecting Amazon.[/QUOTE]

Lol, Bezos owned his own newspaper and it was extremely left leaning. He only started backtracking and playing to the middle after it was obvious that Trump was going to win the election. I think you're forgetting what kind of stronghold the left had on the media at large during Trump's first term. It wasn't until Elon purchased Twitter that the momentum started going in the other direction.

Like I said, I don't think Dana White is alienating too many fight fans by cozying up to Trump because the majority of people who would be bothered by that probably weren't fight fans in the first place. And you're right normally I wouldn't condone sports leagues tying themselves to a political party but unfortunately that is exactly what the left has done ever since Orange Face became president. They came for the NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL... all of entertainment really.

That is why I'm okay with Trump being a glorified mascot for UFC. I also loved it when players started doing the Trump dance during games. I want Trump and Trumpism to be omnipresent from here on out. I want the next Spiderman movie to have villain named "The Cackler" and I want her to be played by a half indian half african woman. I want movies, sports and entertainment to be totally chock full with pro-Trump and anti-left propaganda.

You have to fight fire with fire. It's only fair.

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;15020759][IMG]https://i.ibb.co/zrV4Cgh/RRR3.png[/IMG]


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[QUOTE=tpols;15020782]Bro you realize for boxing the current Heavyweight champ of the world is a white guy right? And the guy he beat was a white guy too. Usyk and Tyson Fury.

And ironically enough the champion of MMA UFC is a black guy. Jon Jones.

You really have things backwards here. Even your boy from Mehico Canelo is a straight up gringo genetically.[/QUOTE]

ah yes, the tired canelo is white angle. sure thing pal.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15020799]Jon Jones is retired.

And lol at white people trying to claim Canelo. Look at his brothers, darker skinned with black hair.

[IMG]https://www.wbaboxing.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/guinness-canelo.jpeg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

Siblings dont share identical genetic make up smart guy. Go back to posting how the moon is a spaceship.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15020797]He's also wrong about the fanbase of UFC being "white trash hillbillies". Guy lives in his made up bubble. Go to any bar or any casino on a fight night and you'll see dudes from all walks of life who are heavy into UFC. It isn't Nascar. Look at all the big time celebs that show up to all the PPV's.

That would be like saying the core fanbase of NBA Basketball is "black trash n-words".[/QUOTE]

Highwhey is a porn addicted 300 pound beaner with oslers notes who lusts over that retarded underage looking white girls from game of thrones

Long story short, he doesn’t get out much

Pathetic seeing other races claim a Mexican fighter. :oldlol:

I get it though. White men are usually inferior in combat sports compared to Blacks and Mexicans.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zweDLOGggpc[/url]

[video=youtube;lg_A8aLQh6w]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lg_A8aLQh6w[/video]

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existence is pain[/QUOTE]

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My favorite all-time UFC moment.

[video=youtube;7rWGv8f2B2Y]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rWGv8f2B2Y[/video]

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15020953]Pathetic seeing other races claim a Mexican fighter. :oldlol:

I get it though. [B]White men are usually inferior in combat sports compared to Blacks and Mexican[/B]s.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=highwhey;15020944]ah yes, the tired canelo is white angle. sure thing pal.[/QUOTE]

If this isnt a white person then white people dont exist.

[IMG]https://cdn-img.secondsout.com/uploads/content/1745767715129477927/canelo-alvarez-boxer.jpg[/IMG]

His genetics are clearly 99% European.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15020953]Pathetic seeing other races claim a Mexican fighter. :oldlol:

I get it though. White men are usually inferior in combat sports compared to Blacks and Mexicans.[/QUOTE]

There's a pretty even split between races in the UFC. Tons of white champions throughout UFC history way too many to name. And boxing right now Whites hold the throne. Some of you guys are too tiny and / or lack IQ. Cain was probably your best champion, big Ole Indo warrior. Now thats a real Mexican genetically speaking. Canelo comes from a conquistadore lineage.

how old is don dumpster ????

[QUOTE=tpols;15021002]There's a pretty even split between races in the UFC. Tons of white champions throughout UFC history way too many to name.[B] And boxing right now Whites hold the throne.[/B] Some of you guys are too tiny and / or lack IQ. Cain was probably your best champion, big Ole Indo warrior. Now thats a real Mexican genetically speaking. Canelo comes from a conquistadore lineage.[/QUOTE]

wtf :oldlol:

I can't think of one current elite white boxer from America.

Most notable one is Caleb Plant, but he got dropped by Canelo and just lost as a huge favorite to a Mexican recently.

[video=youtube;Xejz9UKIXis]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xejz9UKIXis[/video]

Usyk is current Boxing champ of the world. White guy.

White people aren't all from America. None of us are genetically. Just like Canelo. Wierd you said whites can't fight now youre saying only American whites can't?

This guy would like to have a word with you. :oldlol:

[IMG]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/48/Chuck_Liddell_in_Santa_Monica-California_2005_photo_by_Ithaka_Darin_Pappas.jpg/960px-Chuck_Liddell_in_Santa_Monica-California_2005_photo_by_Ithaka_Darin_Pappas.jpg[/IMG]

And I'm pretty sure hes from your Barrio in South Cali. You probably dont even know who he is.

There are probably like 4-5 white boxers who are elite. All from other countries who barely speak English. Absolute moronic to say whites hold the throne in boxing.But then again I’m taking to someone who thought Jon Jones was still fighting.

And Chuck Liddell has like 10 losses on his resume. :lol

Speaking English isn't a requirement for being white. Is Fedor Emelianenko not white because he speaks Russian? Youre not making any sense.

Tyson Fury was also the runner up champ... and he speaks nothing but English. He is English. :lol :facepalm

We can run down a ton of names little guy. Does GSP suck too? Come to think of it... the fact that you disrespected Chuck when hes a hometown hero of yours is crazy work. Thats a weasel move.

GSP? Fedor? Look at tpols trying to weasel his argument to the UFC because he knows I'm right about his horrendous claim on Whites in boxing.

Mexicans and Blacks have always dominated boxing. Prime Cain Velasquez (Mexican) is the best UFC heavyweight fighter of all time. (Fedor didn't fight in UFC)

Blacks dominated heavyweight boxing historically but have fell off in recent times. Which is what this current thread is about. Usyk and Tyson Fury are the champs right now. So us hillbillies have no problem with watching boxing. Mexicans do well in smaller divisions because yall are tiny and quick. Too small for giants though. Thats why there's weight classes.

Has there ever been a heavyweight Mexican champion boxer? Seriously... i dont know. Its such a rarity.

[QUOTE=tpols;15021044]Blacks dominated heavyweight boxing historically but have fell off in recent times. Which is what this current thread is about. Usyk and Tyson Fury are the champs right now. So us hillbillies have no problem with watching boxing. Mexicans do well in smaller divisions because yall are tiny and quick. Too small for giants though. Thats why there's weight classes.

[B]Has there ever been a heavyweight Mexican champion boxer? Seriously... i dont know. Its such a rarity.[/B][/QUOTE]

[video=youtube;DQ4P1ySqbLg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ4P1ySqbLg[/video]

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If thats the best you got youre toast. Usyk or Fury would light that doughnut up.

That dude was a 1 hit wonder. And in pitiful shape compared to most HOF boxers. Big fat torta. :lol

Vegas made a lot of money that day. I remember it. Almost as big as the buster Douglas upset. But this guy looked way sloppier.

[QUOTE=tpols;15021046]:roll:

If thats the best you got youre toast. Usyk or Fury would light that doughnut up.

That dude was a 1 hit wonder. And in pitiful shape compared to most HOF boxers. Big fat torta. :lol

Vegas made a lot of money that day. I remember it. Almost as big as the buster Douglas upset. But this guy looked way sloppier.[/QUOTE]

You asked and I answered. The fact that you didn't even know there was a Mexican heavyweight champion just shows how little you know about boxing, that Ruiz/Joshua fight happened not too long ago.

Hold this L.

I asked why you guys dont have better representation at the top levels of boxing. With all the great white boxers and black boxers if a fluke 1 hit wonder torta Andy Ruiz is your champion that speaks for itself, chico.

[QUOTE=tpols;15021050]I asked why you guys dont have better representation at the top levels of boxing.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=tpols;15021044]Has there ever been a heavyweight Mexican champion boxer? Seriously... i dont know. Its such a rarity.[/QUOTE]

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Yea it is rarity. Its happened 1 time in 100+ years of boxing.

We need more competition.

Undalay chico!

[QUOTE=tpols;15021054]Yea it is rarity. Its happened 1 time in 100+ years of boxing.

We need more competition.

Undalay chico![/QUOTE]

A bigger rarity is a great white American boxer. Who was the last great one? Rocky Marciano?

They tried to hype up Gerry Cooney as the great white hope, but got destroyed by Larry Holmes

[video=youtube;bvzrcigiWNM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvzrcigiWNM[/video]

I mean Rocky Marciano would wipe out Mexicos entire history of top heavyweight boxers all by himself. So that already would be enough.

But beyond that... MMA is vastly > Boxing because it encompasses the entire range of fighting. Punching, kicking, wrestling, submitting, elbowing and kneeing... everything. Its a real fight. Not just a myopic 1 dimensional dance.

Mexicans are pretty good wrestlers but the problem is you fall short of white boys there too especially the dagestan or Russians. Even whites like multiple time champ Stipe, Dan Severn, Mark Coleman, Don Frye, Shamrock. etc. all americans. Tough as ****. You chicos would get ragdolled by these guys. :lol

Rocky Marciano isn't even that much bigger in weight than Canelo and fought in a weak era. Rocky fought some of the weakest competition ever among other heavyweight champs. Best fighter he beat was a 37 year old Joe Louis. Canelo would stomp him.

UFC in general is declining. PPV sales are low and there are no big names in the sport like in the past. Even then, a Mexican was choking out the biggest name in the UFC back when it had star power.

[video=youtube;7ukN42970Ig]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ukN42970Ig[/video]

[video=youtube;C6EAr8lUAw8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6EAr8lUAw8[/video]
[video=youtube;TqTqF21KBoo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqTqF21KBoo[/video]

Well, looks like somebody spoke too soon.

[video=youtube_share;Wxulnx1yGHQ]https://youtu.be/Wxulnx1yGHQ?si=GeF0XtpinFVlaQDf[/video]

Jon Jones says he wants to come back for the White House fight. He said hes back.

I don't like these Dagestani Muslims being on top in the UFC. What happened to the Brazilian domination of the sport? **** them Muzzies.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15021069]Rocky Marciano isn't even that much bigger in weight than Canelo and fought in a weak era. Rocky fought some of the weakest competition ever among other heavyweight champs. Best fighter he beat was a 37 year old Joe Louis. Canelo would stomp him.

UFC in general is declining. PPV sales are low and there are no big names in the sport like in the past. Even then, a Mexican was choking out the biggest name in the UFC back when it had star power.

[video=youtube;7ukN42970Ig]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ukN42970Ig[/video][/QUOTE]

Munguia would shit stomp Marciano. 6’0 with ~73 reach vs Rocky’s 5’10 with 68 reach, and boxing training and mechanics have changed a lot since Rocky’s day, as well as the level of competition. Watch how Marciano leads with his head, considering he even survives he’d eat like 300 shots in a 12 rounder.