Chauncey Billiups and Rozier got arrested by the FBI on gambling charges.

They are cooked

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Co-conspirator 8 is Billups

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I wonder what that incompetent snivelling rat Silver is making of this. A couple of days into the season and he's got a betting scandal complete with game rigging under the backdrop of salary cap circumvention.

Not just that but the two guilty parties, Billups and Ballmer, are universally regarded as "one of the best guys in basketball" and "the best owner in sports" respectively.

You couldn't make this up. But its ok right Adam? Because only yesterday you announced that the Larry O'Brien trophy decals will by back on the court for the Finals.

[QUOTE=Nowoco;15039119]I'm baffled by comments elsewhere like [B]"they're NBA players, how much more money do they need?"[/B]. Which is a gross misunderstanding of not just greed but the human condition[/QUOTE]

You also have to remember that a lot of these guys travel in rich circles. They have relatives, friends, former teammates... who are worth like 100m and upwards. If you're only worth 10-15m, you can't keep up in your circle. You're the broke dude in the group. There's pressure there.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15039128]Co-conspirator 8 is Billups

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Yep Billups is a sack of shit, lol.

Fired.

[QUOTE=Nowoco;15039132]I wonder what that incompetent snivelling rat Silver is making of this. A couple of days into the season and he's got a betting scandal complete with game rigging under the backdrop of salary cap circumvention.

Not just that but the two guilty parties, Billups and Ballmer, are universally regarded as "one of the best guys in basketball" and "the best owner in sports" respectively.

You couldn't make this up. But its ok right Adam? Because only yesterday you announced that the Larry O'Brien trophy decals will by back on the court for the Finals.[/QUOTE]

If the owners don't fire Silver you know they're just as bad as he is.

[QUOTE=Yes or No;15039134]Yep Billups is a sack of shit, lol.

Fired.[/QUOTE]

Forget fired, he might be banned from the league.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15039136]Forget fired, he might be banned from the league.[/QUOTE]

Yes, there shouldn't be a might. But it's Adam Silver.

Source: Bettors allegedly got injury info on LeBron James


[I]Former 11-year NBA player Damon Jones was arrested Thursday amid charges that he allegedly disclosed privileged injury information about a "prominent" basketball player to facilitate illegal sports betting, authorities announced.

LeBron James was the prominent player, a source close to James told ESPN.

James was not accused of wrongdoing in the indictment.

Jones was one of 34 people arrested, along with Portland Trail Blazers coach Chauncey Billups and Miami Heat guard Terry Rozier, as part of a yearslong investigation spanning nearly a dozen states and involving tens of millions of dollars, FBI director Kash Patel said.[/I]

[I]The investigation outlined two separate cases -- one on illegal sports betting and another on rigged poker games involving the Mafia, authorities announced.

Jones was an unofficial, unpaid part of former Los Angeles Lakers coach Darvin Ham's staff and is no longer with the team under current Lakers coach JJ Redick. Ham invited Jones to be a part of team activities after James spent the summer of 2022 with Jones present for many of his offseason workouts.

James was unaware that Jones, his former teammate and assistant coach with the Cleveland Cavaliers, was involved in gambling activity when Jones spent time around James and the Lakers during the 2022-23 season, the source said. The federal indictment alleges that before a Lakers game against the Milwaukee Bucks on Feb. 9, 2023, Jones texted a coconspirator to "get a big bet on Milwaukee tonight" because James was going to be out.

James, who passed Kareem Abdul-Jabbar as the NBA's all-time leading scorer in the previous game on Feb. 7, 2023, would go on to miss three straight games because of soreness in his left ankle.

Jones allegedly added via text: "Bet enough so Djones can eat [too] now!!!"

Without James, Milwaukee beat the Lakers 115-106.

Additionally, the indictment alleges that the following season Jones provided nonpublic information to a coconspirator in connection to the Lakers' game against the Oklahoma City Thunder on Jan. 15, 2024.

The Lakers had no comment on the allegations against Jones when reached by ESPN on Thursday morning.

Speaking after practice on Thursday, Redick said the league's anti-gambling rules have been reiterated to his team this season -- independent of the FBI's investigation.

"We've had two meetings on it already," Redick said. "It's obviously on the front of everyone's awareness given the last two years, but other than that, there's no other comment."
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[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15039140]Source: Bettors allegedly got injury info on LeBron James


[I]Former 11-year NBA player Damon Jones was arrested Thursday amid charges that he allegedly disclosed privileged injury information about a "prominent" basketball player to facilitate illegal sports betting, authorities announced.

LeBron James was the prominent player, a source close to James told ESPN.

James was not accused of wrongdoing in the indictment.

Jones was one of 34 people arrested, along with Portland Trail Blazers coach Chauncey Billups and Miami Heat guard Terry Rozier, as part of a yearslong investigation spanning nearly a dozen states and involving tens of millions of dollars, FBI director Kash Patel said.[/I]

[I]The investigation outlined two separate cases -- one on illegal sports betting and another on rigged poker games involving the Mafia, authorities announced.

Jones was an unofficial, unpaid part of former Los Angeles Lakers coach Darvin Ham's staff and is no longer with the team under current Lakers coach JJ Redick. Ham invited Jones to be a part of team activities after James spent the summer of 2022 with Jones present for many of his offseason workouts.

James was unaware that Jones, his former teammate and assistant coach with the Cleveland Cavaliers, was involved in gambling activity when Jones spent time around James and the Lakers during the 2022-23 season, the source said. The federal indictment alleges that before a Lakers game against the Milwaukee Bucks on Feb. 9, 2023, Jones texted a coconspirator to "get a big bet on Milwaukee tonight" because James was going to be out.

James, who passed Kareem Abdul-Jabbar as the NBA's all-time leading scorer in the previous game on Feb. 7, 2023, would go on to miss three straight games because of soreness in his left ankle.

Jones allegedly added via text: "Bet enough so Djones can eat [too] now!!!"

Without James, Milwaukee beat the Lakers 115-106.

Additionally, the indictment alleges that the following season Jones provided nonpublic information to a coconspirator in connection to the Lakers' game against the Oklahoma City Thunder on Jan. 15, 2024.

The Lakers had no comment on the allegations against Jones when reached by ESPN on Thursday morning.

Speaking after practice on Thursday, Redick said the league's anti-gambling rules have been reiterated to his team this season -- independent of the FBI's investigation.

"We've had two meetings on it already," Redick said. "It's obviously on the front of everyone's awareness given the last two years, but other than that, there's no other comment."
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My man let's just leave Lebron's name outta this thing ok? We got enough to digest with all the other aspects of it. Lebron is innocent, theres no need to bring him up. Lets focus on what everyone else did.

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Jones allegedly added via text: "Bet enough so Djones can eat [too] now!!!"
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Gobb is such a goof lol

[QUOTE=Yes or No;15039135]If the owners don't fire Silver you know they're just as bad as he is.[/QUOTE]

Oh it's the end of Silver, I have no doubt about that. This caps off what has been the worst tenure of a commissioner in sports history.

[QUOTE=warriorfan;15039143]Gobb is such a goof lol[/QUOTE]

If by goof you mean he's a self loathing anti-white, irrationally pro-black, indescribably confident while being regularly incorrect with a low IQ and overall extreme level of cluelessness, yes, I agree.

[QUOTE=Nowoco;15039144]Oh it's the end of Silver, I have no doubt about that. This caps off what has been the worst tenure of a commissioner in sports history.[/QUOTE]

You sure? I hope so. lol.

So the NBA had no idea all these arrests were going to happen today, but it's clear the NBA knew about some of the gambling that was going on, but chose to ignore it. How the hell do you clear Terry Rozier, but then later on the FBI arrests him for the same reason you cleared him for?

It makes the Eric Lewis (NBA ref) situation seem even more sketch now, more than likely the league found out he was betting on Celtics games and just forced him to retire so none of this would be made public.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15039148]So the NBA had no idea all these arrests were going to happen today, but it's clear the NBA knew about some of the gambling that was going on, but chose to ignore it. How the hell do you clear Terry Rozier, but then later on the FBI arrests him for the same reason you cleared him for?[/QUOTE]

And then approve a trade to send him to Miami.

The simple answer is that Jontay Porter was a scrub who was barely in the league so an easy target to make an example of and ban for life. Rozier was a lot more high profile so more advantageous for the league to do what they love to do regarding star players, sweep indiscretions under the rug. Especially ones like this.

Rozier is a star player?

[QUOTE]If money's your religion, sky the limit live life,
Numbers is big business, makes the poor live trife.
The glimmers of hope provoke those without dollars to dream,
Through your existence, become wealthy knowledge is king.[/QUOTE]

- Nasir Jones

[QUOTE=warriorfan;15039143]Gobb is such a goof lol[/QUOTE]

You literally admitted to doing roids. I don’t think a meathead like yourself can label anyone a goof.

[QUOTE=Norcaliblunt;15039093]Legend also says MJ’s dad was killed because of his degenerate gambling. Yup a victimless activity. lol.

A lot of good fix jobs when it comes to the “gambling mob world” scenarios.

Hard to believe what’s real when it comes to Rose, MJ, Donaghy, and everything now since gambling has been legalized.[/QUOTE]


I don’t think “legend” is worth taking serious in this world where people believe all manner of things they want. People have posted bullshit “evidence” online supporting theories they will never be able to prove forever.

I’ll stick to what I know.

Yes..gambling like a thousand other things can get out of hand and lead to violence. That doesn’t mean the concept automatically creates victims because the most extreme versions cause trouble. The list of things people have been killed over is too long to list.

That is an issue of people just being evil and general human weakness.

Obviously most forms of gambling are not inherently harmful to anyone and it definitely isn’t anyone’s right to tell anyone else they can or can’t. It’s one of the wildest forms of government overreach to me.

If I have a 20 the idea that I can’t bet it on _____ but I can use it to buy cigarettes and a beer is hilarious.

Someone somewhere taking it too far shouldn’t have anything to do with me.

I can’t exactly go shoot up a school with a bet on the Nuggets but people who oppose the ability to bet often don’t oppose actual tools of long distance murder being readily available.

People are so selective about what rights they think the government should get to strip.

Therr are serious conversations to be had about a lot of things. Guns, drugs, alcohol, smoking….

Some feel a need to throw “I bet you 20 they come back and win!” into that mix because on a large scale it can be damaging and corrupt…but I don’t know much that can’t.

I just don’t know how it’s my business to tell you you can’t put 10 bucks on the Rams. I don’t know from where I’d get that authority over you and not feel like I were doing too much.

But I barely feel like I should be able to tell an adult he can’t do anything that doesn’t let him impose his will on me and others so I’m not the one to make that call I guess.

[QUOTE=GOBB;15039153]You literally admitted to doing roids. I don’t think a meathead like yourself can label anyone a goof.[/QUOTE]

You’re a nerdy white boy.

[QUOTE=warriorfan;15039157]You’re a nerdy white boy.[/QUOTE]

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It was going to happen eventually. The only question was who was going to be stupid enough to get caught and risk it.

What gives anyone the impression this is the end of Silver? I'd love to see it, but I don't buy that.

30 for 30 on the 2020's gambling ring will only rival a 30 for 30 NBA Crack Epidemic episode (which we're still waiting on.)

[QUOTE=Proctor;15039174]What gives anyone the impression this is the end of Silver? I'd love to see it, but I don't buy that.[/QUOTE]

I don't see it either.

These owners probably love the money that's pouring in because of gambling. It was always going to come with it's own set of risks. Even if Silver takes the fall he's probably going out with a golden parachute. This is what they all wanted. They will act like they're appalled and say all the right things but in reality I doubt any of them give a flying fukk.

And no this isn't an indictment on gambling itself. The issue isn't gambling, it's greed. This is no different than insider trading and market manipulation. Having said that I do think you can make the argument that the leagues shouldn't be endorsing it or promoting it.

Will Billups be removed from the HOF?

[QUOTE=Baller234;15039178]I don't see it either.

These owners probably love the money that's pouring in because of gambling. It was always going to come with it's own set of risks. Even if Silver takes the fall he's probably going out with a golden parachute. This is what they all wanted. They will act like they're appalled and say all the right things but in reality I doubt any of them give a flying fukk.

And no this isn't an indictment on gambling itself. The issue isn't gambling, it's greed. This is no different than insider trading and market manipulation. Having said that I do think you can make the argument that the leagues shouldn't be endorsing it or promoting it.[/QUOTE]


Isn't insider information what yall did on the stock market to rake billions off people? And then got a slap on the wrist on some Jordan Belfort shit. :lol These dummies even with tiny pots by comparison were just too sloppy to get caught.

The NBA knew about it this it looks like, I think they know full well that LeBron and other players are juicing too, they have no interest in investigating it because it would be bad for the league (steroid scandal devastated the popularity of baseball for many years).

How much money is enough? Billups earns $4.7M every year; that's probably in the 99.9% percentile.

The only thing I can think of is the coach today is surrounded by bench players who earn $20M a year, so jealousy/competition instinct may take hold.

[QUOTE=bdonovan;15039218]How much money is enough? Billups earns $4.7M every year; that's probably in the 99.9% percentile.

The only thing I can think of is the coach today is surrounded by bench players who earn $20M a year, so jealousy/competition instinct may take hold.[/QUOTE]

Or it could be as simple as it being easy money to do nothing. Doesn’t always have to be this something deep.

[QUOTE=Im Still Ballin;15039191]Will Billups be removed from the HOF?[/QUOTE]

Relax. Silly question

[QUOTE=Im Still Ballin;15039191]Will Billups be removed from the HOF?[/QUOTE]

OJ is still in the HoF.

Will Chauncey do hard time?

[QUOTE=Nowoco;15039221]OJ is still in the HoF.[/QUOTE]

OJ was acquitted.

Anyway back to the topic at hand…


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Pro poker player talking about a shady poker game hosted by Billups. Pros were getting mopped in the rigged game.

[QUOTE=Yes or No;15039228]OJ was acquitted.[/QUOTE]

Not for armed robbery and kidnapping he wasn't.

[QUOTE=tpols;15039192]Isn't insider information what yall did on the stock market to rake billions off people? And then got a slap on the wrist on some Jordan Belfort shit. :lol These dummies even with tiny pots by comparison were just too sloppy to get caught.[/QUOTE]

What YALL did?

Who tf is YALL?