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[QUOTE=la bomba]so lets say that miraculously maccabi do not win the league.who goes to the euroleague?is it always the champion?
Or do maccabi have a guaranteed place?[/QUOTE]
First of al this year it wouldn't be so miraculous (though it does seem funny when you think Maccabi is supposed to be the 2nd best in Europe).
But if it happens, Maccabi's spot is safe and sound under a contract.
Pretty much like the CSKA & Zalgiris contracts.
That's on top of the arena's issue B.J mentioned before.
[QUOTE=gsafier]First of al this year it wouldn't be so miraculous (though it does seem funny when you think Maccabi is supposed to be the 2nd best in Europe).
But if it happens, Maccabi's spot is safe and sound under a contract.
Pretty much like the CSKA & Zalgiris contracts.
That's on top of the arena's issue B.J mentioned before.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I thought so.the euroleague have triannual agreements with clubs based on their coefficient from domestic league,cups etc.Unicaja and TAU in Spain have guaranteed participation next year even if they go out of the league in the qtr finals.Unicaja finished 8th in the regular season and now have madrid in the qtrs, so they could be out,yet they will be in the euroleague.
Maccabi isn't a sure thing, I saw Nitzan Hanochi play today and if maccabi is going to put David Blumenthal on him than maccabi is going to lose. If the big euroleague teams are smart than they'll give Nitzan Hanochi an invite. He's talented enough to play in the nba but with league politics, he won't.
It's my opinion that Kattash is right about Sherf and I predicting Meir Tapiro and Nitzan Hanochi will have a solid final four and Bnei Hasharon will be domestic champions
It looks as if Tvika Sherf goes on drunk rampages at Lior Eliyahu at practice and the entire national team hates Sherf but yet he remains coach, why am I not surprised.
Maccabi stole the win against Bnei Hasharon, Bnei Hasharon was leading most of the game but should of played better, bnei blew a comfortable win
Thanks to Tubby Blumenthal Hapoel Holon is the champion of the bsl, next year Hapoel Holon along with Bnei Hasharon and perhaps hapoel jerusalem with Kattash as coach will be playing in the uleb.
Maccabi had the potential to be as good as a nba playoff team but instead management wanted to do things as they always did and as a result maccabi was second best in the winners cup, euroleague and the bsl. Kattash wanted a lineup for the future but Sherf had the final say and maccabi was always playing in the past with Blumenthal and Sharp and it's time for Maccabi and the national team to move on. Casspi maybe drafted but unsigned and maccabi has Anton Shoutvin so maccabi has a chance to be the dominant team next season but management needs a new plan for next season.
I thought the israeli's players improved a lot this year but until they have some individual strategy for a particular game, rebound, one-on-one breakdown the bsl will still be a one team league, the barrier was the strategy and game play and not athleticism. To often Meir Tapiro, Casspi, Shasson or Eliyahu would disappear because of a lack of a game plan or didn't have an idea for an one-on-one offensive breakdown.
[QUOTE=b.jerk]Thanks to Tubby Blumenthal Hapoel Holon is the champion of the bsl, next year Hapoel Holon along with Bnei Hasharon and perhaps hapoel jerusalem with Kattash as coach will be playing in the uleb.
Maccabi had the potential to be as good as a nba playoff team but instead management wanted to do things as they always did and as a result maccabi was second best in the winners cup, euroleague and the bsl. Kattash wanted a lineup for the future but Sherf had the final say and maccabi was always playing in the past with Blumenthal and Sharp and it's time for Maccabi and the national team to move on. Casspi maybe drafted but unsigned and maccabi has Anton Shoutvin so maccabi has a chance to be the dominant team next season but management needs a new plan for next season.
I thought the israeli's players improved a lot this year but until they have some individual strategy for a particular game, rebound, one-on-one breakdown the bsl will still be a one team league, the barrier was the strategy and game play and not athleticism. To often Meir Tapiro, Casspi, Shasson or Eliyahu would disappear because of a lack of a game plan or didn't have an idea for an one-on-one offensive breakdown.[/QUOTE]
So Maccabi didn't win the israeli league?wow!
Where is Vujcic going next season?he has just been released.
I can't watch a league based in an illegitemate country like Israel
[QUOTE=cartmanclone]I can't watch a league based in an illegitemate country like Israel[/QUOTE]
There are reasons to feel that way but as long as there are people there that do exceptional work someone will always do business with israel
It will depend who slips but it looks like Casspi has earned enough interest to play in the nba next season, we'll see what maccabi does with Anton Shoutvin.
Effi Birenboim will be replacing Ziv Sherf but Sherf will remain with the maccabi organization. Maccabi's inability to get an established euroleague coach is likely a sign of problems within the organization.
Nikola Vujcic is leaving maccabi, he would earn more money with other teams and was too much of a finesse player for the israeli league.
Maccabi Haifa has signed Ido Kozikaro and Sharon Sasson. The league spread itself thin with 12 teams and will rely on unproven players in interleague and league competition.
Maccabi is reportedly trying to sign Guy Pniny and there's no official information coming from Omri Casspi workouts. What is available is the bloggers and reporters with no association with israel saying that he's doing very well, you never know until draft day but Casspi is likely gone from maccabi.
Yotam Halperin maybe leaving maccabi for Olympiacos
Casspi has spurn the nba and decided to remain with maccabi for more money, it's a good thing for maccabi because they had already lost Halperin to Olympiacos and Eliyahu to either Tau or Holon. He was going to be either a late first round or early second round pick but it looks like the nba isn't as big of a deal as it used to be. Too bad for the nba, teams are having a hard time paying the bills and needed a new market.
Looks as if Denver wanted Halperin's rights from Seattle but Halperin would make more money with Olympiacos.
It looks as if Lior Eliyahu is going to screw maccabi and sign with Tau Ceramica. Good for him, maccabi treated him like **** and used patriotism as they always do to rationalize it.
[QUOTE=b.jerk]It looks as if Lior Eliyahu is going to screw maccabi and sign with Tau Ceramica. Good for him, maccabi treated him like **** and used patriotism as they always do to rationalize it.[/QUOTE]
Eliyahu is a really underestimated player and totally misused by maccabi and israel.Last year in the euros(why do israel play in them?another story)he was their best player when they decided to play him against croatia and then the next game back to then bench.With Maccabi its the same.Is it true he is going to TAU?I hope Ivanovic won't destroy his career like he almost certainly has at barca with vasquez,kasun and nearly ilyasova.Kozikuro and shasson are good local signings for maccabi.I think there should be no israeli teams in the euroleague,however as that is not the case,I think Israel and russia deserve two teams ,they are far better than the Fench and German muck that we get every year devaluating the competition.
In the past other euroleague countries didn't scout in israel but it's different now. Israel could have two good euroleague teams and be a smaller Greece but they rather have a 12 team bsl and a 16 team soccer league.
[QUOTE=b.jerk]In the past other euroleague countries didn't scout in israel but it's different now. Israel could have two good euroleague teams and be a smaller Greece but they rather have a 12 team bsl and a 16 team soccer league.[/QUOTE]
12 and 16 are good numbers respectively.
No it's 12 and 16 is past their market size and it only benefits maccabi
doesn't look like eliyahu has signed for TAU.Infact Pamesa want him.and cajasol want Limonad.
I really don't care but it's so obvious that I have to say this. The israeli national teams have the worse coaching ever, most coaches prepare their teams for every game but the israeli teams are only prepared 60% of the time. They never make it to the next round because they either lose to portugal, or to Italy by 40 but they beat Serbia or Croatia or Lithuania. They would even beat teams like Spain and Greece sometimes if they were prepared for four quarters. And it's always the same coaches that always justify their incompetence by blaming the players.
Sport5 is online and there is a whole community around the world the have links to archived and live broadcasts. The government limits broadcasting of private media(just think if all television was like PBS) and there's a whole net media thing that is exist as a counterbalance that I don't necessarily agree with but I understand why it's there. Really webtv and internet news exists today the way it does because of what those guys did.
Arroyo to maccabi.
Very good signing bjerk?
I think Carlos Arroyo and his Puerto Rico pride is going to take a hit with Maccabi. In a month or two he's going to look human and the spectators will either by saying that he wasn't any good or the guard play in the bsl was underrated. Regardless, Maccabi is no olympiacos.
I hear moni fanan has finally retired and shelef taken over.Is this good or bad ?
[QUOTE=la bomba]I hear moni fanan has finally retired and shelef taken over.Is this good or bad ?[/QUOTE]
Moni Fanan left because Maccabi believed a new philosophy was necessary and stated the goal of player development over recruitment. Sherf is still with maccabi but we've all had a our Sherf in our family or at work and he's not going to be accomplishing anything.
In other news Ralph Klein died, he was coach of maccabi and won one of the greatest matches in sports ever played, the championship over the USSR was bigger than the 79 miracle.
Hapoel Jerusalem has inked Adam Haluska. Good signing for them.
why hasnt anyone signed mike campbell?? he is one of the best players out there now...smart, good shooter, and great team player...
Things are getting hot for maccabi, maccabi lost seven in a row including being knocked from a preseason tournament by Galil. I always thought maccabi wasted their domestic talent and it looks like it's finally caught up to them.
Maccabi lost to Galil 77-79, lmao.
Brian Roberts dropped 24 on them.
[QUOTE=b.jerk]I think Carlos Arroyo and his Puerto Rico pride is going to take a hit with Maccabi. In a month or two he's going to look human and the spectators will either by saying that he wasn't any good or the guard play in the bsl was underrated. Regardless, Maccabi is no olympiacos.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I don't know where this Arroyo is so good nonsense came from. I mean I bet he'll probably shine with Maccabi (or at least do better than he did on the Magic). But he's really not that impressive of a player.
Carlos Arroyo wasn't an elite point guard in the nba but he was one of the better ones. It's a different game, the nba is a slow jogging/walking game where players isolate and do their thing. The game in Israel is all about speed and a lot of nba players would struggle like Arroyo. There's some inconsistency from game to game but I'm surprised with the talent level this year and I didn't think it be this good this fast. The adjustment Galil made to Arroyo in two weeks was incredible.
[URL="http://www.triangleinternet.tv/"]This is a great link if you're interested in basketball.[/URL]
I'm saying now Pini Gershon's second go around with maccabi will be a failure. Maccabi has the talent nba teams would salivate over but management is incompetent and they can't manage today's team. Maccabi will suffer more loses with Pini Gershon than if maccabi kept Birenboim. Maccabi didn't have to deal with the same level of competition in his glory days. It will be interesting which team(s) will fill maccabi's void.
I will only retract if Gershon builds the season around their two most talented players Lior Eliyahu and Casspi.
Lior Eliyahu caught cibona with their pants down in a statistical sense. It was an impressive performance, but he needs to be more of a finisher. He could of had more of an impact during the end of the game.
Bnei Hasharon defeats Maccabi Tel-Aviv despite Arroyo's 21/7/7 performance further showing how ****ty of a team Maccabi is. They can't even beat the 6th best team in Israel. :lol
Just one game.
Carlos Arroyo lost the game, he physically wasn't fast enough to stay in front of the bnei hasharon guards on defense. What happened was Bnei Hasharon is now getting some production from it's younger inexperienced players that they didn't get at the start of the season. For the last three years the bsl teams started weak because of inexperienced but finished strong. The same thing is happening this year.
Is that game up on Triangle Internet.tv yet? I've been trying to watch it, but not having luck. Also, I want to start catching Euroleague games (Maccabi Tel Aviv ones to be exact), what's the best way to watch them?
[QUOTE=Huey Freeman]Is that game up on Triangle Internet.tv yet? I've been trying to watch it, but not having luck. Also, I want to start catching Euroleague games (Maccabi Tel Aviv ones to be exact), what's the best way to watch them?[/QUOTE]
euroleague.net has all the games available for a fee.
[url]http://www.myp2p.eu/[/url] and jumptv are free.
talkbasket forums always have a link to a game.