[QUOTE=yobore]It is a disrespectful esp. since Kidd is someone he looked up to growing up but they do whatever it takes to get in ppl's heads i guess. Not everyong can be Timmy D[/QUOTE]
The same way it was disrespectful for AI to break MJ's ankles?
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[QUOTE=yobore]It is a disrespectful esp. since Kidd is someone he looked up to growing up but they do whatever it takes to get in ppl's heads i guess. Not everyong can be Timmy D[/QUOTE]
The same way it was disrespectful for AI to break MJ's ankles?
[QUOTE=InspiredLebowski]The same way it was disrespectful for AI to break MJ's ankles?[/QUOTE]
No, because MJ was still the better player at that point.
[QUOTE=InspiredLebowski]The same way it was disrespectful for AI to break MJ's ankles?[/QUOTE]
that's part of the game. I don't like the attitude around here that competitiveness = bad sportsmanship
[QUOTE=High Potential]Every time he plays Deron.[/QUOTE]
IN COR RECT!
[QUOTE=BIZARRO]You're watching a different CP3 than me.[/QUOTE]
Yeah a different one than me too.
He got pissed during the Jazz's last win in NO, and straight shoved Kirilenko out of the way for a rebound, tore down the court out of control, ran right over Deron Williams (who was standing still haha), got a charge and became IRATE that they called it a charge.
4 points and 9 dimes. You're kidding yourself if you say he never loses his head.
[QUOTE=darabzarrabi]IN COR RECT![/QUOTE]
What, everytime but one?
How is that incorrect?
[QUOTE=yobore]that's part of the game. I don't like the attitude around here that competitiveness = bad sportsmanship[/QUOTE]
You're the one who said it was disrespectful of Paul...
[QUOTE=EuJazz]Yeah a different one than me too.
He got pissed during the Jazz's last win in NO, and straight shoved Kirilenko out of the way for a rebound, tore down the court out of control, ran right over Deron Williams (who was standing still haha), got a charge and became IRATE that they called it a charge.
4 points and 9 dimes. You're kidding yourself if you say he never loses his head.[/QUOTE]
dont forget in the USA Brazil game where he for no reason throws Varejoa out the way on a dead ball situation almost causing a fight. It happens a lot.
[QUOTE=BIZARRO]May be too early for you, but not for me.
CP3 is playing at a level Kidd never sniffed.
[B]
[I][U]I mean, man, I haven't seen a point guard play at his current level since the Magic man. [/U][/I] [/B]
CP3 is just playin' crazy. :bowdown:[/QUOTE]
prime KJ? :confusedshrug:
[QUOTE=Younggrease]CP3 might not even win this series. But this guy is acting like he is better then Isiah. CP3 is a bad leader and that is gonna haunt him his whole career. I have never seen CP3 in a big game not lose his head, he always plays at the edge of losing it and sooner or later that will cost you in the playoffs.
I really want to see him try his whole "intimidating" things against Duncan and Bowen.[/QUOTE]
Amen. He is really the most overrated player in the league right now. His leadership is pathetic I saw in the Portland game earlier this year he started whining and how it spreads to his teammates. Chandler and west follow his lead now have you ever watch West he calls and one on every shot he has ever taken. He didn't use to do that but when your leader is a whiner it trickles down. The problem with Paul is he doesn't have the leadership to win the title as a first option but he has the ego of someone who has to be the first option. He will never win a title.
People are comparing him to legends who have actually accomplished something beside ruining his NCAA team's postseason by punching someone in the balls.
[QUOTE=EuJazz]Yeah a different one than me too.
He got pissed during the Jazz's last win in NO, and straight shoved Kirilenko out of the way for a rebound, tore down the court out of control, ran right over Deron Williams (who was standing still haha), got a charge and became IRATE that they called it a charge.
4 points and 9 dimes. [B]You're kidding yourself if you say he never loses his head.[/B][/QUOTE]
Way to take what I said out of context. Did I EVER say there that he NEVER loses his head??
Please don't put words in my mouth.
The poster implied that he loses his head almost always or inevitably will.
It is my take that he is just ultra competitive and he is one of the top 5 players in the league that I would want in the 4th quarter.
THAT is a different player than illustrated by that poster.
[QUOTE=mjbulls23]prime KJ? :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
Absolutely. CP3 is currently playing at a higher level than KJ even did.
I love KJ. But after he retired he became one of the most overrated players on this board IMO.
Don't get me wrong he was great, but people some people put him above GP, Stockton, and Isiah. Not me.
I know he had the 20/10 thing, but I watched him, and he was never as good as CP3 currently.
If you put early '90's KJ on the Hornets. They ain't winning as many games. Period.
[QUOTE=InspiredLebowski]You're the one who said it was disrespectful of Paul...[/QUOTE]
woops what i wrote could be read two ways.
What I mean is I don't like that taunting and bad sportsmanship is considered being competitive.
paul is developing into a HUGE trash talker. its turning me off of watching his good play. might even get to the point where I dont like him anymore. I actually started disliking him after he failed in the olympics guarding players. now its growing the more trash he talks
[QUOTE=yobore]woops what i wrote could be read two ways.
What I mean is I don't like that taunting and bad sportsmanship is considered being competitive.[/QUOTE]
I agree. But I don't consider Paul telling Kidd he can't guard him as unsportsmanlike.
[QUOTE=mjbulls23]prime KJ? :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
BTW MJBULLS, I'm normally on the other sides of these arguments defending the older guys as you know with our guy MJ, but CP3 has made a believer out of me bro.
Paul can't even get over the Williams hurdle. How do you expect him to get over the legends hurdle so quickly? Stop overrating him. This is how it starts until he becomes the next Kobe or LeBron with everybody on his nuts.
So? I like that attitude.
[QUOTE=gencbiba]Paul can't even get over the Williams hurdle. How do you expect him to get over the legends hurdle so quickly? Stop overrating him. This is how it starts until he becomes the next Kobe or LeBron with everybody on his nuts.[/QUOTE]
I can only call it like I see it man. I don't expect others to agree yet.
I'm not trying to overrate him or be controversial. For all I know, his play could dip next year, etc.
But if we're talking about a level of play for a PG over the course of a season, etc., I haven't seen anyone do like this since Magic.
[QUOTE=BIZARRO]BTW MJBULLS, I'm normally on the other sides of these arguments defending the older guys as you know with our guy MJ, but CP3 has made a believer out of me bro.[/QUOTE]
it's not necessarily that older players are always better, but I'm not sure I can place CP3 that high so soon.
Maybe he will prove me wrong in the near future. Who knows? :confusedshrug:
[QUOTE=BIZARRO]Absolutely. CP3 is currently playing at a higher level than KJ even did.
I love KJ. But after he retired he became one of the most overrated players on this board IMO.
Don't get me wrong he was great, but people some people put him above GP, Stockton, and Isiah. Not me.
I know he had the 20/10 thing, but I watched him, and he was never as good as CP3 currently.
If you put early '90's KJ on the Hornets. They ain't winning as many games. Period.[/QUOTE]
Don't go there with my man K.J.
[QUOTE=mjbulls23]prime KJ? :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
stfu please.
[QUOTE=mrhoopfan]Don't go there with my man K.J.[/QUOTE]
I loved KJ's game, but I'll say it again, if you put KJ on these Hornets I don't see them winning 55 games.
[QUOTE=statman32]stfu please.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol:
[QUOTE=NY Comeback]
Nobody really can guard CP3, though.[/QUOTE]
There is this guy, I think his name is called Deron Williams....
[QUOTE=Lakers Fan]There is this guy, I think [B]his name is called [/B]Deron Williams....[/QUOTE]
His name is called... lol
it's hilarious how cp3 rips **** up against every team except UTAH where his biggest rival happens to play...
hell no its not disrespectful, while on the court everybody gets the same treatment. i remember when people was mad at ai cuz he didnt bow down to jordan. they all get a check to play nba ball, im sure cp will show kidd all the respect in the world when he retires, but long as he's on the court he gets sonned.
I saw him do that. And c'mon what's wrong with it?
It's his first playoff game, and he played it like a MVP. Obviously the guy's gonna get super excited and have some trash talkin, chest pumpin, shirt poppin, pie eatin, eyebrow raisin...
It all makes the playoffs so entertaining.
[QUOTE=Lakers Fan]There is this guy, I think his name is called Deron Williams....[/QUOTE]
This would be true, if Williams was the only one covering him, which isn't the case. Utah revolves their entire defense game plan around getting the ball out of Paul's hands as quickly as possible. They'll double Paul at almost every possible instance to try and make him cough up the ball and if Paul gets past them they'll swarm him to make sure he doesn't have an easy lane to the basket or very good angles. It's pretty overstated to say that Williams has out played all that often and it's really just the Jazz as a team executing better.
With that being said, he's still having one of the best seasons for a point guard ever. Not only did he lead the league in assists (with the more assists than any player in 11 years) but he also has the second highest assist to turnover ratio of any player who averaged over 10 assists a game (Muggsy Bogues had a nearly 6:1 a/t ratio in 89-90, but it gets off set when you also factor in that he scored less 10 points per game). It's just phenomenal what he's doing this season.
It seems to be the biggest problem the detractors seem to have is that he's not a leader, but how many other 22 year olds have been able to lead their teams to 56 wins in a season? Not only that but unless something odd happens in the MVP voting, he'll be the third youngest player to finish in the top 3 in the MVP voting (Bob McAdoo and Lebron James are the only two who were younger).
He's just super-cocky. I have never seen him like this. I want a team kill them just too see him in tears. :)
that is a shame, he should respect J Kidd
I think all the paul love should be disrespectful to one guy, and his name is david west, kid is a beast and gets no dap, chris paul makes him better this and that, while he does somewhat Tyson Chandlers success is more credit to paul then west's is. And the Jazz dont usually trap him, thats the Mavs they may both wear blue on the road but you should notice one jersey says Dallas and the other says Utah.
[QUOTE=Younggrease]
I really want to see him try his whole "intimidating" things against Duncan and Bowen.[/QUOTE]
Chris Paul agaisnt Spurs.
11/9/07- 18 on 8-15 shooting with 7 assists.
1/26/08- 17 on 8-16 shooting with 11 assists.
2/23/08- 27 on 11-23 shooting with 4 assists.
3/12/08- 26 on 12-19 shooting with 17 assists.
Outcome
11/9/08- Lost by 12 in New Orleans.
1/26/08- Won by 24 in San Antonio.
2/23/08- Lost by 9 in San Antonio.
3/12/08- Won by 25 in New Orleans.
Doesn't look like Chris Paul has to do anything to intimidate the Spurs, they clearly already know how good he is and can be on any given night. He is Averaging 22 a game against them, about 9-10 assists a game, and he shoots 53% against them.
How is it disrespectful? lol You dudes act like these players are church mouses on the court. Kidd talks junk and even taunts here and there.
[QUOTE=GOBB]How is it disrespectful? lol You dudes act like these players are church mouses on the court. Kidd talks junk and even taunts here and there.[/QUOTE]
Same Jason Kidd who beat his wife right?
[QUOTE=LuCKy_JuNiOr]
Doesn't look like Chris Paul has to do anything to intimidate the Spurs, they clearly already know how good he is and can be on any given night. He is Averaging 22 a game against them, about 9-10 assists a game, and he shoots 53% against them.[/QUOTE]
Yeah we all know the Spurs take the regular season seriously:rolleyes: I mean Lebron dominated them last regular season..by your logic Lebron and the Cavs would kill them in the playoffs..:rolleyes:
[QUOTE=Younggrease]Yeah we all know the Spurs take the regular season seriously:rolleyes: I mean Lebron dominated them last regular season..by your logic Lebron and the Cavs would kill them in the playoffs..:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
Well San Antonio won 56 games this year during the regular season. By your logic they could have won all 82? I don't by the bull**** that they don't take the regular season seriously.
I like it. I want to see fire in the playoffs and I want to see emotions.
[QUOTE=LuCKy_JuNiOr]Well San Antonio won 56 games this year during the regular season. By your logic they could have won all 82? I don't by the bull**** that [B]they don't take the regular season seriously[/B].[/QUOTE]
They dont, they just so happen to win 53+ wins 10 out of the last 11yrs (would have won 50+ if not for the strike year).