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Oh man I HATE the defensive rebounding of Live. It is by far the biggest flaw in the game. When I'm up one with 3 seconds left and the other team has one free throw, I actually HOPE THEY MAKE IT because if they miss 60% of the time they'll get the rebound and get a putback.
The reason we play Live is because of 2 reasons:
1. It's a video game. If I want to play basketball, I'll go outside and do so. I'm playing a video game I want it to be fun, it doesn't have to be super realistic.
2. I don't have a console, Live makes games for PSP and PC.
2k is a better game but I honestly don't care. Live is more fun. There are some flaws. Like freestyle superstar is way too effective. But when you're playing with other people it's a more fun game. Sure it isn't realistic. But tons of offensive boards and steals are fun. That's what it's all about for me.
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[QUOTE=AppleNader]I wonder if Live is going to have actual realistic rebounding now...you know, something that the 2k series have had already? Enough with the ball being vacuum sucked into the hands of whoever has a higher rebounding rating thats been the trademark of every single Live game so far. We want contested rebounds, body contact, balls being batted back into the air and flying across court...(which interestingly enough has been on the 2k series and makes gameplay infinately more realistic)[/QUOTE]
The problem with Live's rebounding is actually too much flying across the court and that bigger playes always win the battle for positions. KG and Howard like their real life counter parts owns the boards, but guys without that much athletism and size, like Reggie Evans always lose the battle for the rebound. Guys with only size, or only athletism (Yao, TD, Marion), become merely average rebounders. My biggest problem is when the ball hits rim and then hits the ground with no one around it. The physics of that is pretty messed up and pretty random.
I would really like the "tip the ball back into the air"thing though, that would make it alot better for players like Yao.
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[QUOTE=geeWiz15]Oh man I HATE the defensive rebounding of Live. It is by far the biggest flaw in the game. When I'm up one with 3 seconds left and the other team has one free throw, I actually HOPE THEY MAKE IT because if they miss 60% of the time they'll get the rebound and get a putback.
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Use the guy thats supposed to be boxing out the shooter, hold L1 and just box out. And if gameplay isnt realistic enough, put it on superstar setting and adjust the sliders. On 8 minute quarters, the scores are usually close and the games are usually 100-92 with me winning. You just gotta put the mid range long range and inside scoring sliders to 35 and game speed to like 40 I forgot the rest but NBA Live is fun and realistic for me.
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[QUOTE]Use the guy thats supposed to be boxing out the shooter, hold L1 and just box out. And if gameplay isnt realistic enough, put it on superstar setting and adjust the sliders.[/QUOTE]
I play PSP Live. There are no sliders and you can't edit player abilities. And that is what I do (box out get a rebound). It's the only way I ever get rebounds on FTs. But if they bounce away from the player I'm controlling, it's an offensive board.
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And you have to put the defenisve rebound sliders really high and offensive rebound sliders really low.
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Some new NBA 2k7 info. Not sure if already posted, but it looks like 2k7> Live this year.
[url]http://www.********.com/xbox360/sports/nba2k7/news.html?sid=6156168&mode=previews&tag=previews;title;3[/url]
and
[url]http://sports.ign.com/articles/727/727219p1.html[/url]
Some snippets from the second one:
[QUOTE]But don't think you can play Kobe 48 minutes a game and that will lead to a Lakers championship as progressive fatigue has been added into the mix. The older the player, the slower their recovery time, so if you go out and try to sign Mutombo, he might get you some blocks, but if you play him on back-to-back nights, you might see the big man break down before your eyes."[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]There is a ton of knowledge to be learned about every player as you can compare your baller's attributes against the league average for his position, really coming in handy during the free agent signing period[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]
But the arena's aren't the only things looking good as there are over 200 variations of jumpers in the game with players like Shawn Marion having four to five different looking shots, from his ugly three to runners and leans. They were already even to get J.J. Redick's smooth shot in the game from his motion-capture day just a few weeks ago. Taking things a step further, individual players will have special dunk packages, that way you won't see LeBron James hang on the rim after a dunk...every jam The King throws down is from his real-life repertoire[/QUOTE]
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This is something that always drives me nuts.. just as much as people who literally fight about who is the better player, which is the better mouse trap, etc. The <insert video game title here> is better than <insert other video game title here> is about as ignorant of an argument a person can come up with.
Let's look up the word "subjective", shall we?
sub-jec-tive [suhb-jek-tiv]
1. existing in the mind; belonging to the thinking subject rather than to the object of thought (opposed to objective).
2. pertaining to or characteristic of an individual; personal; individual: a subjective evaluation.
3. placing excessive emphasis on one's own moods, attitudes, opinions, etc.; unduly egocentric.
4. Philosophy. relating to or of the nature of an object as it is known in the mind as distinct from a thing in itself.
5. relating to properties or specific conditions of the mind as distinguished from general or universal experience.
What -YOU- like is subjective. Just because -YOU- think a game is better, for whatever bull**** reasons you make up on the spot, does not make it so.
I've been a basketball video game nut since the Atari 2600. Out of all of the games that have been made, the NBA Live series to me is the definitive basketball video game series. It's just like with football, you have Madden, and you have everything else. Anything new that comes along to challenge it is already going to be building upon the foundation that it created.
With that in mind, each new game that comes out caters to specific interests. Some are more arcade like, some are more instant gratification oriented, some find graphics to be more important than gameplay, some are more customizable than others as far as difficulty and gameplay goes, etc.
I myself prefer NBA Live. I prefer it because I play it on the PC instead of on consoles. It
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[QUOTE=JalenRawley]This is something that always drives me nuts.. just as much as people who literally fight about who is the better player, which is the better mouse trap, etc. The <insert video game title here> is better than <insert other video game title here> is about as ignorant of an argument a person can come up with.
Let's look up the word "subjective", shall we?
sub-jec-tive [suhb-jek-tiv]
1. existing in the mind; belonging to the thinking subject rather than to the object of thought (opposed to objective).
2. pertaining to or characteristic of an individual; personal; individual: a subjective evaluation.
3. placing excessive emphasis on one's own moods, attitudes, opinions, etc.; unduly egocentric.
4. Philosophy. relating to or of the nature of an object as it is known in the mind as distinct from a thing in itself.
5. relating to properties or specific conditions of the mind as distinguished from general or universal experience.
What -YOU- like is subjective. Just because -YOU- think a game is better, for whatever bull**** reasons you make up on the spot, does not make it so.
I've been a basketball video game nut since the Atari 2600. Out of all of the games that have been made, the NBA Live series to me is the definitive basketball video game series. It's just like with football, you have Madden, and you have everything else. Anything new that comes along to challenge it is already going to be building upon the foundation that it created.
With that in mind, each new game that comes out caters to specific interests. Some are more arcade like, some are more instant gratification oriented, some find graphics to be more important than gameplay, some are more customizable than others as far as difficulty and gameplay goes, etc.
I myself prefer NBA Live. I prefer it because I play it on the PC instead of on consoles. It
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Why the **** did you quote such a big post? You didn't debate any points in it you stupid piece of inbred dog-****.
You really are a terrible poster and we should just flush you down the toilet.
And to summarise:
-Some people like Live
-Some people like 2K
Who gives a flying ****?
It's like one kid saying: "I love Cheese Burgers"
And the other kid saying: "I love Ham Burgers"
Its the same damn thing you freakin' morons.
Personally I've played both and you're no less of a fan if you play Live, and you're not a better fan if you play 2K.
IMO, 2K is boring, and Live is too up and down. I score over 200 points on the settings that the game has preset into it.
A combo of the two games would be perfect.
Now stfu.
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[QUOTE=TheReturnofCed]^
Why the **** did you quote such a big post? You didn't debate any points in it you stupid piece of inbred dog-****.
You really are a terrible poster and we should just flush you down the toilet.
And to summarise:
-Some people like Live
-Some people like 2K
Who gives a flying ****?
It's like one kid saying: "I love Cheese Burgers"
And the other kid saying: "I love Ham Burgers"
Its the same damn thing you freakin' morons.
Personally I've played both and you're no less of a fan if you play Live, and you're not a better fan if you play 2K.
IMO, 2K is boring, and Live is too up and down. I score over 200 points on the settings that the game has preset into it.
A combo of the two games would be perfect.
Now stfu.[/QUOTE]
Why dont you keep telling me how much of a life you got when you have nothing better to do then find every post I make and then call me childish names :roll:
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^Stop quoting everything. There is a button called reply. It's pretty easy for people to realise who you were aiming coments at.
And no I don't follow you around, I come into a thread, and see you're being a total douche and I tell you. I'm your guardian angel if anything, with a sailor's vocab.
Try and use your head.
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[QUOTE=TheReturnofCed]^Stop quoting everything. There is a button called reply. It's pretty easy for people to realise who you were aiming coments at.
And no I don't follow you around, I come into a thread, and see you're being a total douche and I tell you. I'm your guardian angel if anything, with a sailor's vocab.
Try and use your head.[/QUOTE]
I can do whatever I want :roll:
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[QUOTE=MaverickFan4Life]I can do whatever I want :roll:[/QUOTE]
I assume you mean men?
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[quote]Why the **** did you quote such a big post? You didn't debate any points in it you stupid piece of inbred dog-****.[/quote]
THANK YOU. I hate it when people do that. Didn't even say anything.
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[QUOTE=geeWiz15]THANK YOU. I hate it when people do that. Didn't even say anything.[/QUOTE]
Let me play around with your avatar in paint. I want to make Brian black.
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WOW such a heated debate about video games!!! Even bringing a little political BS into the mix funny stuff for sure. Anyways I have been a NBA Live fan for quite some time and I guess I never thought about it but it could be the comfort factor the EA brand name I have loved the Tiger Woods games and The Madden games so I guess I felt that the game play would be good on the NBA Live series as well and to be honest I have never been impressed with the graphics on the commercials for the 2K series but with people defending each with such conviction I just might have to pick up a copy of 2k6 since I have live06. The only concern I have is that I can pick it up at any video game store used for like $10. But I buy live and after tweaking the game settings and creating any missing players on my team
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Something I can't understand is why fans have become so passionate about the realism in basketball but keep buying Madden every year?
I understand that now that EA has muscled out the competition people feel the need to satisfy that football jones. Still though, why do so many people care about the accuracy of gameplay in one sport but not the other?
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The bad news: In playing a version of Live marked 90% complete, the gameplay was terribly disappointing. The ball physics are all over the place, even the most simple shots appear awkward, [b]and to be honest, the game seems years behind the build of NBA 2K7[/b] that we already have in the office.
From IGN....
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[QUOTE=AKA AAP]It looks a bit interesting to be honest. But still impossible to get a "feel" for the game by watching videos. It's going to take a whole lot for me to switch out of 2K6. I only switched out of 2K5 because of the shot stick. Unless there are major changes, I will never get another basketball game. I'll wait for the ratings.[/QUOTE]
Whats so bad about the shot stick that it forced you out of the game?? You do know that you dont have to use it right? I use the button for jumpshots and the shot stick for layups dunks and post moves. It gives you so many options.
Anyway, I cant for the life of me fathom why any real bball fan would choose Live over 2K. Is it because you've been playing Live for so long you're fanboyness prevents you from seeing the truth? 2K is about realism...Live is about anything but realism. To each their own but I just dont get why bball fans play live when 2K is on the market.
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[QUOTE=the truth]Whats so bad about the shot stick that it forced you out of the game?? You do know that you dont have to use it right? I use the button for jumpshots and the shot stick for layups dunks and post moves. It gives you so many options.
Anyway, I cant for the life of me fathom why any real bball fan would choose Live over 2K. Is it because you've been playing Live for so long you're fanboyness prevents you from seeing the truth? 2K is about realism...Live is about anything but realism. To each their own but I just dont get why bball fans play live when 2K is on the market.
:confused:[/QUOTE]
Play NBA 2K3 and tell me that with a straight face...
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[QUOTE=PureElement]And you have to put the defenisve rebound sliders really high and offensive rebound sliders really low.[/QUOTE]
my sliders are something like:
game speed 40
fatigue 45
short range 30
medium range 35
long range 35
offensive rebounding 10
defensive rebounding 90
I forget the rest but it works well, i get realisitic scores and results from NBA Live. I doubt Ill need to move away from the Live series.
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[QUOTE=the truth]Whats so bad about the shot stick that it forced you out of the game?? You do know that you dont have to use it right? I use the button for jumpshots and the shot stick for layups dunks and post moves. It gives you so many options.[/QUOTE]
You just misread it. I left 2k5 for 2k6 just because of the shot stick. Without improvements like these, I won't buy another basketball game.
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[QUOTE=AKA AAP]You just misread it. I left 2k5 for 2k6 just because of the shot stick. Without improvements like these, I won't buy another basketball game.[/QUOTE]
Oh no,the market will miserably fail without you.:rollingeyes:
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[QUOTE=Kobe24]Oh no,the market will miserably fail without you.:rollingeyes:[/QUOTE]
I guess I'm the only one that bought the game because of the new innovation. Once an idiot, always an idiot.
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You're acting like you not buying another game is gonna hurt them. Once a clown,always a clown.
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Are you slow? I'm not the only one who is doing the exact same thing, there's a lot of people actually. No ONE person hurts their sales.
Is there a coincidence that Kobe groupies are the dumbest form of human life? I think not.
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[QUOTE=AKA AAP]Are you slow? I'm not the only one who is doing the exact same thing, there's a lot of people actually. No ONE person hurts their sales.
Is there a coincidence that Kobe groupies are the dumbest form of human life? I think not.[/QUOTE]
Idiot. One person hurts their sales by 50$. That's like 2 $ to them. Well you would know of course being an asian and all. Keep making them copies.
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Wow...you just don't get it.
[QUOTE]I'm not the only one who is doing the exact same thing, [B]there's a lot of people actually[/B].[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][B]I'm not the only one[/B] who is doing the exact same thing, there's a lot of people actually.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE][B]I'm not the only one[/B] who is doing the exact same thing, there's a lot of people actually.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]I'm not the only one who is doing the exact same thing, [B]there's a lot of people actually[/B].[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][B]I'm not the only one[/B] who is doing the exact same thing, there's a lot of people actually.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]I'm not the only one who is doing the exact same thing, [B]there's a lot of people actually[/B].[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][B]I'm not the only one[/B] who is doing the exact same thing, there's a lot of people actually.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]I'm not the only one who is doing the exact same thing, [B]there's a lot of people actually[/B].[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][B]I'm not the only one[/B] who is doing the exact same thing, there's a lot of people actually.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]I'm not the only one who is doing the exact same thing, [B]there's a lot of people actually[/B].[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][B]I'm not the only one[/B] who is doing the exact same thing, there's a lot of people actually.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]I'm not the only one who is doing the exact same thing, [B]there's a lot of people actually[/B].[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][B]I'm not the only one[/B] who is doing the exact same thing, there's a lot of people actually.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]I'm not the only one who is doing the exact same thing, [B]there's a lot of people actually[/B].[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][B]I'm not the only one[/B] who is doing the exact same thing, there's a lot of people actually.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]I'm not the only one who is doing the exact same thing, [B]there's a lot of people actually[/B].[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][B]I'm not the only one[/B] who is doing the exact same thing, there's a lot of people actually.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]I'm not the only one who is doing the exact same thing, [B]there's a lot of people actually[/B].[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][B]I'm not the only one[/B] who is doing the exact same thing, there's a lot of people actually.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]I'm not the only one who is doing the exact same thing, [B]there's a lot of people actually[/B].[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][B]I'm not the only one[/B] who is doing the exact same thing, there's a lot of people actually.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]I'm not the only one who is doing the exact same thing, [B]there's a lot of people actually[/B].[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][B]I'm not the only one[/B] who is doing the exact same thing, there's a lot of people actually.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]I'm not the only one who is doing the exact same thing, [B]there's a lot of people actually[/B].[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][B]I'm not the only one[/B] who is doing the exact same thing, there's a lot of people actually.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]I'm not the only one who is doing the exact same thing, [B]there's a lot of people actually[/B].[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][B]I'm not the only one[/B] who is doing the exact same thing, there's a lot of people actually.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]I'm not the only one who is doing the exact same thing, [B]there's a lot of people actually[/B].[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][B]I'm not the only one[/B] who is doing the exact same thing, there's a lot of people actually.[/QUOTE]
Do I need to post your picture for everyone to excuse you from being so mentally challenged?
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This really shouldnt even be a debate, 2K basletball has owned Live for the past 5 years and will continue to do so
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I could post yours but it's not work safe.
[COLOR="Red"]*Warning* [/COLOR]
You look kinda like William Hung with a touch of down syndrome. I won't post yours to save you from embarrasement and also to keep the other posters from suffering a heart attack. The description is bad enough and Yes,I do have your real picture that I got from the old board.
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[QUOTE=TheReturnofCed]
Why the **** did you quote such a big post? You didn't debate any points in it you stupid piece of inbred dog-****.
[/QUOTE]
Actually, I didn
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Dude, they weren't talking to you at all. Maverickfan4lyfe, right below you, was the one who quoted that big post of yours. Everything you've just quoted was directed to him, not you
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[URL="http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/826/826441/vids_1.html"]http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/826/826441/vids_1.html[/URL]
Live 07 4 360!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cant wait
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live is gonna suck like like 4 or 5. 2k is and will be the better game until they redo their entire gameplay engine, its just to simplistic and not real enough. I like being able to play serious if i want and turn it into a chess game. But i will buy live because a lot of my friends at school like it. '
So i will be buying them both on Sept 25. I hope its not like last year because i took live back the next day though.
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Just checked out 2k's videos (for 360). I like the movements of the players up and down the court, very smooth movements, but good god their models suck. Nash looks like hes 300 pounds. Everyone looks fatter then they should be or too damn skinny.
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[QUOTE=PureElement]Just checked out 2k's videos (for 360). I like the movements of the players up and down the court, very smooth movements, but good god their models suck. Nash looks like hes 300 pounds. Everyone looks fatter then they should be or too damn skinny.[/QUOTE]
I think the video's you watched online were compressed a bit. When formatted correctly on a tv, I'm sure it'll looking normal and the players will not appear stalky and fat.
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[QUOTE=PureElement]Just checked out 2k's videos (for 360). I like the movements of the players up and down the court, very smooth movements, but good god their models suck. Nash looks like hes 300 pounds. Everyone looks fatter then they should be or too damn skinny.[/QUOTE]
The IGN videos were formatted wrong, they are supposed to be 4:3, instead they are widescreen, so they make the players look short and squatty. A developer for 2k7 posts at Operationsports.com and cleared it up.
[url]http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/5346[/url]
another video..
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EA and Live fans have too much pride. Lives graphics are garbage, the players all look short and stubby and it seriously looks like its being played on super nintendo or playstation 1, at its best. The gameplay is horrible, its basically run up the court, pop a 3 or try to dunk on someone.
Live fans, Give 2K a chance, trust me, u wont regret it. Its so much more fun when playin wit ur peeps too, more competitive and it takes more skill.
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has anyone ever thought that maybe some people like live better than 2k and some people like 2k better than live because everyone has their own preference? You keep insulting people who does not think the same way you do. Does this help your cause? I don't think so.
anyway, i played live and 2k each year and i always end up playing live the most. A lot of people say that it's arcady and easy to score ala And 1. Have you guys actually played around with the game sliders? If you have, i dont understand why you dont just adjust the sliders to a level of your liking? If you want tough competition, then work with the sliders. If you want And1 ballin, then just use the default.
Sometimes, people tend to feel that if you disagree with them, that means you are wrong. well, it's not. It just means we are human and we have our unique preferences. So, going back to the topic, nba live rocks.
