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Mike Conley: His name is [URL="https://*********.com/social/tweets/"]@JordanClarksons !! Happy for you bro!!! #6thman #NBAAllStar #mostimproved Give him everything![/URL] [IMG]https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/13.0.1/svg/1f937-1f3fe-200d-2642-fe0f.svg[/IMG][IMG]https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/13.0.1/svg/1f440.svg[/IMG] #TakeNote
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[QUOTE]Michael Scotto: Ben Simmons, who scored a career-high 42 points, on Rudy Gobert: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]“I loved when I saw Rudy was guarding me. I love being able to go at somebody like that. I felt like it was a little bit of disrespect putting him on me,[/URL] but it is what it is.”
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/MikeAScotto"]Twitter MikeAScotto[/URL]
[/QUOTE]Yeah putting the best defender in the league on you is so disrespectufl!
[QUOTE]Rich Hoffman: Tobias Harris had a long answer about the 3-point volume, admits that Sixers could shoot more. [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]“Simple math, 3 is more than 2.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/rich_hofmann"]Twitter rich_hofmann[/URL]
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Royce O’Neale being the 7th best player on your roster is an incredible luxury.
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7th? :roll: Can't imagine them without him
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[url]https://kslsports.com/453324/joe-ingles-passes-pistol-pete-maravich-for-7th-in-jazz-history-in-career-assists/[/url]
Looks like he'll get to at least 5th
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Andy Larsen: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Mike Conley is upgraded to Questionable for tomorrow’s game[/URL] vs. the Clippers.
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[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50108470/from-the-comments-ranking-the-jordan-clarkson-trade-after-his-40-point-explosion-against-philly[/url]
[QUOTE][h=2]"Trading Dante Exum for Jordan Clarkson was one of the best trades the Jazz have ever made." — jaredteerlink[/h]
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doesn't make up for drafting him, signing him to an extension and refusing to include him in the Conley trade
[QUOTE]Spencer Haywood for Adrian Dantley (1979): The Jazz sent Haywood to LA for the 23-year-old Dantley, who became the Jazz's first star of the Salt Lake City era. Dantley made six all-star teams while in Utah and led the franchise to its first playoffs in 1984. Haywood was dismissed by the Lakers in 1980.
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went to Europe I thought
[QUOTE]Jeff Malone and a first-round pick for Jeff Hornacek (1994): Hornacek is often credited for getting the Jazz over the hump and to the NBA Finals for the first time in franchise history. Meanwhile, Jeff Malone played just 78 more games in his career after the trade.
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I thought about as much of Malone as I did Exum. Thought a lot more ofHorny than Clarkson
[QUOTE]Three first-round picks for Deron Williams (2005): The Jazz sent the picks that would become Martell Webster, Linas Kleiza and Joel Freeland to the Portland Blazers for the rights of Deron Williams. By 2007, the Jazz were playing in the Western Conference Finals behind their new star point guard.
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the fact that they didn't take Paul makes this a lot worse
[QUOTE]Second-round pick and cash for Rudy Gobert (2013): This was less of a trade and more just smart investing. The Jazz bought back into the first round to take Gobert, who has become the centerpiece to the franchise.
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and Denver didn't want the pick
[QUOTE]Dante Exum and two second-round picks for Clarkson (2019): The Jazz moved on from the oft-injured Exum last winter, and in return found the perfect bench player for Quin Snyder's system. Clarkson is averaging a career-high 18.2 points this season on career-high shooting numbers. Exum has played just 30 games since the trade.
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the bigger problem is that Exum just sucks. 2 2nd rounders just to get rid of his ass when they could have had Conley :facepalm
[QUOTE]Mitchell: fresh-faced star at the perfect time
Dantley: legitimized the franchise after its arrival in Utah
Hornacek: Finals appearances speak for themselves
Williams: new star following the Stockton-to-Malone era
Gobert: this one loses points because it feels more like a purchase than a trade (yeah, semantics, but remember these are meaningless)
Clarkson: if the Jazz end up being as good as they look right now, this will get a big bump.
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Gobert. 3rd best player in history
Dantley their star before Stockton/Malone
Williams their next star after the aforementioned
Horny the missing piece almost
Mitchell might move up
Clarkson Exum going was best part of trade
[QUOTE]The Jazz are slowly winning believers throughout the basketball world. Really, it's hard for any team to go 19-1 over a 20-game stretch. There should be no doubt left that Utah is a legitimate title contender — the last week just helped solidify that even more. Milwaukee's Giannis Antetokounmpo called the Jazz the best team in the West and seemed genuinely jealous of how they were playing. Meanwhile, ESPN, NBA.com and The Athletic all have Utah as the No. 1 team in their weekly power rankings.
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still plenty of doubt. It's Utah
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[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50108424/patrick-kinahan-jazz-making-case-for-best-team-in-franchise-history[/url]
[QUOTE]Based off of playoff reputation, the Jazz team is no competition for the Stockton and Malone bunch. The two stars were in the midst of a playoff run they began together when Malone joined the team in 1985, one year after Stockton was drafted out of Gonzaga.
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A playoff run that started before John
[QUOTE]Mitchell's bold statement had better prove accurate this postseason. At this point, barring a horrendous run of injuries or COVID restrictions, anything less than advancing to the second round would be considered a major disappointment and render hollow any regular-season accomplishments.
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anything less than a title should be a disappointment at this point
[QUOTE]The Gobert factor also is a huge advantage that favors this year's team. Nobody on the finals team could come close to match his defensive ability, especially recalling that Mark Eaton had retired by then.
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Eato was a big reason they took another step. Not playing 4 on 5 on offense does wonders for ya
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[url]https://kslsports.com/453381/magic-johnson-says-jazz-are-contenders/[/url]
but have no MVP candiadates! :lol
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[url]https://kslsports.com/453367/where-does-clarkson-trade-rank-in-jazz-history/[/url]
[QUOTE]Williams quickly became one of the premier point guards in the NBA, while draft picks Martell Webster, Linas Kleiza, and Joel Freeland experienced moderate success during their much less notable NBA careers.
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No one knows who the Jazz would have drafted. We just know it wasn't Paul
[QUOTE]Dantley would make six All-Star appearances in seven seasons and was eventually inducted to the Hall of Fame in 2008. Though Dantley’s individual resume is better than any other player the Jazz have traded for, the team’s success was limited during his time in Utah.
Dantley’s Jazz qualified for the postseason only two-times during his seven seasons with the team before being traded to make way for Stockton and Malone.
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stuff Mithell hasn't done :facepalm
[QUOTE]Though Donovan Mitchell’s resume isn’t as impressive as Dantley’s, it’s likely only a matter of time before the fourth-year guard racks up career accolades that outshine the former Jazz All-Star.
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Likely? AD was one the best offensive players ever
[QUOTE]The Jazz would have paid a king’s ransom if they knew what they were getting in Mitchell, but the fact that they offered so little makes the trade even more impressive.
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wouldn't say it was little. Yet to replace Lyles
[QUOTE]Likely the only thing separating the Mitchell trade and the Rudy Gobert trade is the fact that the Jazz gave up two first-round picks for Mitchell, while they landed Gobert in exchange for second pick Erick Green and cash.
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the thing that separates them is the past 6 years
[QUOTE]Though Gobert has only made one All-Star team, he is a three-time All-NBA center, four-time All-Defensive team member, two-time Defensive Player of the Year, and is easily one of the five best players in Jazz history.
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3rd. No one else in the discussion
[QUOTE]However, with Clarkson on pace to win the Sixth Man of the Year Award on one of the best teams in Jazz history, it’s fair to consider that Clarkson’s move to Utah may soon resemble the team’s trade to acquire Hornacek in the early 90s.
no it's not
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[url]https://www.deseret.com/sports/2021/2/16/22285765/ben-simmons-says-he-felt-disrespected-being-guarded-by-utah-jazzs-rudy-gobert-philadelphia-76ers[/url]
[QUOTE]“Yeah, I loved when I saw Rudy was guarding me,” he said, chuckling. “I mean, I love being able to go at somebody like that. I felt like it was a little bit of disrespect putting him on me, but it is what it is.”
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who else would they put on you?
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[url]https://www.deseret.com/sports/2021/2/16/22284081/jordan-clarkson-season-high-40-bench-sixers-utah-jazz-had-to-say-6th-man-6moy-nba[/url]
[QUOTE]Quin Snyder: “I think the mix that he has of his aggressiveness both from the 3-point line and at the rim — we really talked a lot about his ability to shoot 3s as opposed to settling for the midrange when he’s he’s so good at the rim — and one of the things he’s doing is when he does get into paint, he’s such a good finisher, but he’s also got his eyes out, and we want his eyes on the rim, (laughs) but he’s also been unbelievably unselfish. I believe in him and his teammates believe in him. He’s confident to begin with, but I think that takes him to a really good place mentally. I just like the other things he’s trying to do as well. I think the way that he’s thrown himself into the game — you see him on the offensive glass, you see him trying to defend — and I think that helps him stay focused. He doesn’t need to be too open to be aggressive and shoot the ball and that’s what we want. That’s what his teammates want, too.”
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unselfish? :D
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[QUOTE][h=3][URL="https://*********.com/rumor/jazz-were-looking-for-a-scorer-who-could-break-the-paint-when-they-traded-for-jordan-clarkson/"]Jazz were looking for a scorer who could break the paint when they traded for Jordan Clarkson[/URL][/h][IMG]https://*********.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/92/2020/12/i_ac_e9_c4_jordan-clarkson.png?w=190[/IMG][URL="https://theathletic.com/2393642/2021/02/17/nba-trades-revisited-the-clarkson-wiggins-morris-capela-deals-a-year-later/"]The urgent need to add another wing would lead to the Clarkson trade, with one source who was involved in the process saying the Jazz were looking for a scorer who could shoot and “break the paint.”[/URL] Utah’s front office was exploring other scenarios to fill this role at the time, but Jazz president of basketball operations Dennis Lindsey & Co. turned their attention to Clarkson when Cavs general manager Koby Altman made it clear he was available.
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/2393642/2021/02/17/nba-trades-revisited-the-clarkson-wiggins-morris-capela-deals-a-year-later/"]Sam Amick @ The Athletic[/URL]
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I was just hoping for anyone that wasn't Dante! :cheers:
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[QUOTE][URL="https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30918272/sources-utah-jazz-coach-quin-snyder-lead-western-conference-all-star-game"]Quin Snyder of the Utah Jazz will coach the Western Conference entry in next month’s All-Star Game,[/URL] sources told ESPN.
– via [URL="https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30918272/sources-utah-jazz-coach-quin-snyder-lead-western-conference-all-star-game"]Tim Bontemps @ ESPN[/URL]
While the league has not officially announced the game is taking place March 7, if it holds to its typical timeline of selecting the coach of the team with the best record as of two weeks before the game — which sources say the league intends to do — [URL="https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30918272/sources-utah-jazz-coach-quin-snyder-lead-western-conference-all-star-game"]then Snyder officially locked up the honor with Utah’s win over the Philadelphia 76ers Monday night[/URL].
– via [URL="https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30918272/sources-utah-jazz-coach-quin-snyder-lead-western-conference-all-star-game"]Tim Bontemps @ ESPN[/URL]
[URL="https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30918272/sources-utah-jazz-coach-quin-snyder-lead-western-conference-all-star-game"]Snyder will be the first Jazz coach to represent the West in the All-Star Game since Frank Layden in 1984.[/URL] Remarkably, despite all of his success in Utah, Hall of Fame coach Jerry Sloan never did so in his more than two decades
– via [URL="https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30918272/sources-utah-jazz-coach-quin-snyder-lead-western-conference-all-star-game"]Tim Bontemps @ ESPN[/URL]
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job security doesn't equal greatness
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[QUOTE][URL="https://theathletic.com/2388294/2021/02/15/utah-jazz-title-championship-contenders-nba/?fbclid=IwAR39hJU3zs_lUYYjkTO-HfI4My8FsAb2jHXfSI7ESFOiChfh26TQLbm25b0"]Where did this dominance come from? On the surface, the adage persists that a team that can rest in the top 10 of the league offensively and defensively has a chance to win a lot of basketball games. The Jazz are top-five in both. Offensively, they can shoot you out of the gym. Defensively, they squeeze you like a boa constrictor.[/URL] They are 11 deep with legit rotation players. Donovan Mitchell and Rudy Gobert are All-Stars and All-NBA candidates. Mike Conley, Bojan Bogdanovic and Joe Ingles are elite veteran role players, with Conley having an All-Star argument in his own right. Jordan Clarkson would be the runaway Sixth Man of the Year if the season ended today. The Jazz are versatile, they are capable of beating you in a number of different ways, and they are, at the very least, an NBA title contender.
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/2388294/2021/02/15/utah-jazz-title-championship-contenders-nba/?fbclid=IwAR39hJU3zs_lUYYjkTO-HfI4My8FsAb2jHXfSI7ESFOiChfh26TQLbm25b0"]Tony Jones @ The Athletic[/URL]
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Oni isn't a legit role player yet. End of the bench energy guy that should be with the Stars ideally. Morgan might be but we haven't seen enough to know for sure. Ideally he'd be with the Stars or starting not at the end of the bench not watching. Or maybe you're talking Shaq who we've yet to see?
[QUOTE][URL="https://theathletic.com/2388294/2021/02/15/utah-jazz-title-championship-contenders-nba/?fbclid=IwAR39hJU3zs_lUYYjkTO-HfI4My8FsAb2jHXfSI7ESFOiChfh26TQLbm25b0"]“People think we win games because we hit a lot of threes,” Utah center Derrick Favors told The Athletic. “The reason we win games is because of how we defend.[/URL] The defense sustains us when things aren’t going well offensively, until we can hit some shots.”
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/2388294/2021/02/15/utah-jazz-title-championship-contenders-nba/?fbclid=IwAR39hJU3zs_lUYYjkTO-HfI4My8FsAb2jHXfSI7ESFOiChfh26TQLbm25b0"]Tony Jones @ The Athletic[/URL]
Going deeper, nobody foresaw this. Except for maybe the Jazz themselves. While the rest of the league talked, the Jazz themselves stayed quiet. Utah went out in the first round of the postseason in the bubble, but privately, the Jazz didn’t think they were far away. A healed injury here, a free agency signing there and internal improvement everywhere has led to the best start in franchise history. [URL="https://theathletic.com/2388294/2021/02/15/utah-jazz-title-championship-contenders-nba/?fbclid=IwAR39hJU3zs_lUYYjkTO-HfI4My8FsAb2jHXfSI7ESFOiChfh26TQLbm25b0"]“I just wish you guys had been there to see us during our offseason workouts,” Mitchell said. “Everyone worked their behinds off because we knew what we had a chance to be. Whatever guys had to do in workouts, that’s what guys did.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/2388294/2021/02/15/utah-jazz-title-championship-contenders-nba/?fbclid=IwAR39hJU3zs_lUYYjkTO-HfI4My8FsAb2jHXfSI7ESFOiChfh26TQLbm25b0"]Tony Jones @ The Athletic[/URL]
Utah, however, has been a surprise. They are the team that’s crashed the party. They are the uninvited guests. The ball movement. The shooting. The ability to defend. The depth. It’s all drawing comparisons to great teams of yesteryear. [URL="https://theathletic.com/2388294/2021/02/15/utah-jazz-title-championship-contenders-nba/?fbclid=IwAR39hJU3zs_lUYYjkTO-HfI4My8FsAb2jHXfSI7ESFOiChfh26TQLbm25b0"]“They are so difficult to defend because they have answers to every coverage you throw at them,” Boston Celtics coach Brad Stevens said. “They’ve got excellent one-on-one players in Mitchell, Bogdanovic and Clarkson, and then they’ve just got a ton of guys that shoot it, move it, or drive it. I think it’s the closest team to the 2014 San Antonio Spurs that we’ve played, the way the ball moves and how quickly the right decision is made. The ball doesn’t stick.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/2388294/2021/02/15/utah-jazz-title-championship-contenders-nba/?fbclid=IwAR39hJU3zs_lUYYjkTO-HfI4My8FsAb2jHXfSI7ESFOiChfh26TQLbm25b0"]Tony Jones @ The Athletic[/URL]
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Cody Taylor: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]The Mavericks announced today that they have flex-assigned rookie Josh Green to the G League’s Salt Lake City Stars[/URL].
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