Thunder vs. Pacers NBA Finals Game Thread

[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;15013813]Of course Giannis title is legit, that was a dominant a run as your going to see. Saying otherwise it's just hater talk. He was a great player and he played great, whether you like him or not. It's a special class of dominant where the only way to consistently stop a guy is to hope he misses free throws. The guys on that list are just Wilt, Shaq and now Giannis.[/QUOTE]

dominant bc the refs allowed him. again, tell me why he isn't even in the mix for contending since then? he's not going to sniff the finals or even a deep playoff run until he joins another superstar. he isn't that guy. the league literally contoured their rules to allow him to get away with offensive fouls and travels. without the officials stepping in, he would not have had a "dominant" run. manufactured like a mothafukka. not even SGA's foul baiting is that egregious.

[QUOTE=highwhey;15013840]dominant bc the refs allowed him. again, tell me why he isn't even in the mix for contending since then? he's not going to sniff the finals or even a deep playoff run until he joins another superstar. he isn't that guy. the league literally contoured their rules to allow him to get away with offensive fouls and travels. without the officials stepping in, he would not have had a "dominant" run. manufactured like a mothafukka. not even SGA's foul baiting is that egregious.[/QUOTE]
Someone's still steaming Giannis obliterated their favorite team in the finals :ohwell:

[QUOTE=highwhey;15013840]dominant bc the refs allowed him. again, tell me why he isn't even in the mix for contending since then? he's not going to sniff the finals or even a deep playoff run until he joins another superstar. he isn't that guy. the league literally contoured their rules to allow him to get away with offensive fouls and travels. without the officials stepping in, he would not have had a "dominant" run. manufactured like a mothafukka. not even SGA's foul baiting is that egregious.[/QUOTE]
The biggest reason his teams haven't done much is injuries. I believe he's personally had two season-ending injuries in the playoffs and then this season Lillaird got hurt. Now its entirely possible that his teams go out in the same rounds healthy but ignoring how unlucky Milwaukee has been for a few years now doesn't make sense.

[QUOTE=highwhey;15013773]it's a copy cat league, if the pacers manage to beat OKC, other teams will use them as a blueprint to emulate. team oriented ball with 110% effort over having an mvp guard that hunts for fouls. it's fundamentals vs exploiting offensive rules. that's been the trend for a few years now since the league kept relaxing the offensive rules. what was once a travel isn't a travel anymore and creating contact by launching your body into a defender is an immediate trip to the free throw line (shai).[/QUOTE]

Yeah that's true.

I think Pacers play ball the right way, lots of effort, doesn't feel as spammy as other teams.

Carlisle is great, he made Luka-Mavs look great too on offense.

[QUOTE=highwhey;15013793]the market for players like Tj and Caruso is definitely going to spike though.[/QUOTE]

I dont think it will. Teams always look to add those types. When teams win those type of players are noticed more by casuals. But I feel they are all over the league.

[QUOTE=GOBB;15013858]I dont think it will. Teams always look to add those types. When teams win those type of players are noticed more by casuals. But I feel they are all over the league.[/QUOTE]

For once me and you agree. Many Kirk hinrich clones. TJ has always been one of em dating back to Philly.

[QUOTE=highwhey;15013773]it's a copy cat league, if the pacers manage to beat OKC, other teams will use them as a blueprint to emulate. team oriented ball with 110% effort over having an mvp guard that hunts for fouls. it's fundamentals vs exploiting offensive rules. that's been the trend for a few years now since the league kept relaxing the offensive rules. what was once a travel isn't a travel anymore and creating contact by launching your body into a defender is an immediate trip to the free throw line (shai).[/QUOTE]

Team oriented ball never sets the trend. Just think back to what the Spurs did to Miami. Who copied that?

Who copied the Ben wallace pistons? Bird’s Celtics?

[QUOTE=Duffy Pratt;15013871]Team oriented ball never sets the trend. Just think back to what the Spurs did to Miami. Who copied that?

Who copied the Ben Simmons pistons? Bird’s Celtics?[/QUOTE]

not sure why we keep bringing up different eras of basketball when i clearly mentioned it's a recent trend that has been increasing.

within the last 5 years, teams to make the finals without a top 5 player:

Celtics (22)
Heat (23)
Suns (20)
Pacers (25)

[QUOTE=Duffy Pratt;15013871]Team oriented ball never sets the trend. Just think back to what the [B]Spurs did to Miami. Who copied that[/B]?

Who copied the Ben wallace pistons? Bird’s Celtics?[/QUOTE]

Kerr copied that and took passing (and 3pt shooting) basketball to another level - produced a dynasty. Teams had always been trying to copy the Spurs' organization/culture model (not necessarily the playing style earlier until 2014). The passing was a necessity as the Big 3 (Duncan in particular) aged.

Warriors was a WHOPPING 41.6% 3 pt shooting for the ENTIRE 2016-17 season. Spurs 46.6% in 2014 Finals. For reference, this past season, MIL had the highest 3 pt % at 38.7

[QUOTE=rmt;15013880]Kerr copied that and took passing (and 3pt shooting) basketball to another level - produced a dynasty. Teams had always been trying to copy the Spurs' organization/culture model (not necessarily the playing style earlier until 2014). The passing was a necessity as the Big 3 (Duncan in particular) aged.

Warriors was a WHOPPING 41.6% 3 pt shooting for the ENTIRE 2016-17 season. Spurs 46.6% in 2014 Finals. For reference, this past season, MIL had the highest 3 pt % at 38.7[/QUOTE]

Atlanta also copied Spurs.

Warriors did copy Spurs, but removed the midrange game, but lets not forget their best teams had big centers like Bogut, so they weren't 5-out teams.

[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;15013623]By a shorter man with a smaller wingspan while he's shooting a jumper? No, he should not. He needs to develop his body to be the kind of great offensive player his length athleticism and shooting skill should make him...but that's just a comment on his general talent level. Specific to the times he was blocked tonight, he should be able to shoot over Turner. Turner is a great shot blocker but we're talking about a 7-footer with a 7'6 wingspan. Only Wemby should be able to mess with him.[/QUOTE]
He's extremely low iq lmao. With his two dead brain cells remaining, he wouldn't comprehend whatever you'll say properly[url=https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQXjsbxHgWKVzGIpCDFUbmq7cu8YziwXxzr6g&usqp=CAU].[/url]

[QUOTE=Axe;15013928]He's extremely low iq lmao. With his two dead brain cells remaining, he wouldn't comprehend whatever you'll say properly[url=https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQXjsbxHgWKVzGIpCDFUbmq7cu8YziwXxzr6g&usqp=CAU].[/url][/QUOTE]

Stinky boy in with the bitch fit. :lol Must be a day of the week that ends in "y".

:lebronamazed:

Not only does Axe

Throw lots of bitch fits

But he also sports

A pair of bitch tits








So true. :lol

[QUOTE=highwhey;15013873]not sure why we keep bringing up different eras of basketball when i clearly mentioned it's a recent trend that has been increasing.

within the last 5 years, teams to make the finals without a top 5 player:

Celtics (22)
Heat (23)
[B]Suns (20)[/b]
Pacers (25)[/QUOTE]
2021[url=https://i.ibb.co/LJtPyW7/IMG-20221213-081813.jpg],[/url] you mean?

NEEDLESS TO SAY sHA IS A SCORER BUT WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU SAW A MVP WILT IN THE PLAYOFF TITLE GAME??

INDY IS MOST DOMINATE AND PEOPLE WERE DISSING ' BUCKS FOR LOSING TO THEM...

HUMMM

[QUOTE=Jasper;15014049]NEEDLESS TO SAY sHA IS A SCORER BUT WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU SAW A MVP WILT IN THE PLAYOFF TITLE GAME??

INDY IS MOST DOMINATE AND PEOPLE WERE DISSING ' BUCKS FOR LOSING TO THEM...

HUMMM[/QUOTE]

Even though he didn't win MVP that year you might as well include 2011 LeBron who averaged only 17 in the Finals. He won the MVPs the two seasons before 2011 and the two seasons after.