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[QUOTE] Tony Jones: The [URL="https://*********.com/lists/jazz-rumors-donovan-mitchell-pat-beverley-bojan-bogdanovic-mike-conley-jordan-clarkson/"]Knicks don’t want to unload Derrick Rose. He’s long been a favorite of Tom Thibodeau.[/URL] I know the Knicks want to hang onto him and Grimes. Those guys are priorities.
– via [URL="https://*********.com/lists/jazz-rumors-donovan-mitchell-pat-beverley-bojan-bogdanovic-mike-conley-jordan-clarkson/"]Michael Scotto @ *********[/URL]
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who exactly are they giving up? No Grimes, Barrett, Toppin, Rose... Thibs won't be there long after he tells Mitchell to defend anyway. Johnnie Bryant anyone? As long as as Danny gets his unprotected picks you can keep who the **** ya want. James ****in Dolan!
[QUOTE] When could we see a potential trade between the Jazz and Knicks for Donovan Mitchell? Tony Jones: [URL="https://*********.com/lists/jazz-rumors-donovan-mitchell-pat-beverley-bojan-bogdanovic-mike-conley-jordan-clarkson/"]Jones: The sense I get right now is it’s probably not going to happen on an imminent level. The two sides aren’t close. To me, I think if it’s going to happen, it’s going to happen closer to training camp or the start of the season.[/URL] If it doesn’t happen then, we’ll see what happens closer to the February trade deadline. It’s one of the reasons why the Jazz haven’t made a lot of moves around their roster. Mitchell is a domino that has to be taken care of one way or the other. If the Jazz trade Mitchell, then it’s going to make sense to go younger. Then, I’d expect more moves on top of that.
– via [URL="https://*********.com/lists/jazz-rumors-donovan-mitchell-pat-beverley-bojan-bogdanovic-mike-conley-jordan-clarkson/"]Michael Scotto @ *********[/URL]
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disappointing news! still need to be moves. Can't see going with Conley, Beverley and Mitchell with Butler in the wings again. Still hard to believe anyone thinks Clarkson is good!
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[QUOTE][B]Jones:[/B] I don’t think the two sides are close. I don’t think they have been close. We’ll see what happens as the urgency of training camp looms. The Jazz want what they want, which is picks out of this deal, and they want young guys on short or rookie contracts. By definition, that means Toppin, Grimes and Quickley. They’re good young players, and the Knicks want to protect those guys. The Knicks don’t necessarily want to put in their young guys. They want to try to unload some undesirable contracts. The Knicks don’t want to unload [B]Derrick Rose[/B]. He’s long been a favorite of [B]Tom Thibodeau[/B]. I know the Knicks want to hang onto him and Grimes. Those guys are priorities.
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Mr. James ****in' Dolan to the white courtesy phone stat!
[QUOTE][B]Jones: [/B]I don’t think the Jazz have any appetite for Randle. I’m not sure there’s much of an appetite for Reddish. They’ve set a price for Mitchell, and from their perspective, at this point, it’s you meet the price, and they’ll trade him, or you don’t, and they’re going into training camp with him. They don’t feel like they have to trade Mitchell or are obligated. They don’t feel an urgency to trade him. They think they have multiple roads back to being the team they were a couple of years ago. They already have three first-round picks by the end of next season. If they hold onto all of their veterans, they’ll have $36-40 million in cap room. While some may question what free agent would go to Utah? The cap space isn’t about which free agent would go to Utah. The cap space would be used to maneuver in the trade market. They could potentially pull off a trade similar to the one Portland did for [B]Jerami Grant[/B].
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the team from two years ago had someone named Gobert! :facepalm
[QUOTE]They look at it as if there are three years left on Mitchell’s contract, so if they’re going to trade him, it’s because somebody meets their price. I don’t see the Jazz coming down on their price.
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what price? 7 firsts?
[QUOTE][B]Jones: [/B]It’s one of those things where it’s been talked about seemingly forever, and pretty much since he signed his second contract. The fifth-year player option was something that raised a bunch of eyebrows. It’s something the Jazz and the fans have been dealing with for years, frankly. If Mitchell wants out, Utah still doesn’t have to trade him right now. He’s got three years on his deal. Next summer, with two years left, that’s probably a sweet spot, which is when the Jazz can trade him and get 75 cents on the dollar.
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if they start the year with him and they suck he needs to be gone by the break or everyone else does anyway.
[QUOTE][B]Scotto: [/B]Utah has the most leverage if they move Mitchell now. Can they try to compete with him? Sure. But we saw what the team looked like with him and [B]Rudy Gobert[/B], who was a perennial Defensive Player of the Year candidate and an All-Star. The trade they made didn’t net players who are going to help them. Gobert was the best player in the trade. From a talent aspect, even though they added depth on paper, they took a step backward in terms of competing now. If I’m Utah, and I see the writing on the wall here, I’m trying to really maximize this. Ainge has done this in Boston before when they drafted [B]Jayson Tatum [/B]and[B] Jaylen Brown[/B].
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We haven't seen either with Hardy. We have seen Mitchell without Gobert and it wasn't pretty
[QUOTE][B]Jones:[/B] With or without[B] Donovan Mitchell[/B], some of these veterans are going to be on the roster at the start of the season. They can’t move all these guys. Who are the guys Utah can move tomorrow (theoretically)? I think Utah can move Bogdanovic, Vanderbilt, and Beverley. They can move them rather easily. I don’t know how much of a market there is for Conley, Clarkson, or Beasley.
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interesting! I can't imagine why anyone wants Clarkson either. I thought Cleveland or Chicago wanted Conley? Maybe at the trade deadline. Partial guarantee next year. Be disappointing if any of them but Beasley is around
Overtime: [URL="http://twitter.com/overtime/status/1556052558321520642"]Royce O’Neale did his mom dirty[/URL] @BucketsONeale00
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[QUOTE]In my [URL="https://www.deseret.com/2022/7/31/23280902/utah-jazz-mailbag-donovan-mitchell-rudy-gobert-danny-ainge-new-york-knicks-juancho-hernangomez"]mailbag article[/URL] I mentioned that the upcoming season would be huge for [URL="https://www.deseret.com/2022/5/3/23053435/utah-jazz-jared-butler-rookie-season-was-not-what-he-expected-baylor-bears-justin-zanik-quin-snyder"]Jared Butler[/URL] and could provide him with ample opportunity to become the player that the Jazz expected he would be when they drafted him.
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right now he won't even be playing
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2022/8/6/23295337/all-the-latest-utah-jazz-trade-rumors-los-angeles-lakers-russell-westbrook-donovan-mitchell-knicks[/url]
[QUOTE]It appears that’s the stalemate, especially with Grimes. As we approach training camp we’ll see what happens and if the Knicks or Jazz budge on what they want.
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Don't thinks so. Danny wants everything. Knicks only want to give up crap they don't want. Doubt Ainge cares about Grimes more than unprotected picks. As long as they don't take Randle and get enough picks Danny will be happy
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2022/08/06/grading-utah-jazz-offseason-far/[/url]
[QUOTE][h=2]So far, the Utah Jazz have earned a solid B-[/h]I think the Gobert trade and Royce O’Neale trades were home runs. The Jazz got a much [URL="https://thejnotes.com/2022/07/09/utah-jazz-debate-series-three-ways-utah-won-the-gobert-trade/"]larger than expected package for Gobert[/URL], getting five picks and a swap. The Jazz also got a decent cast of role players. Some will and can be flipped for more picks, and others fit the rebuilding timeline the Jazz seem to be heading towards.
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They likely lost the Gobert trade so B-?
[QUOTE]Letting [URL="https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pascher01.html#all_transactions"]Eric Paschall[/URL] sign with the Timberwolves is puzzling to me. He is 25 years old, which is a bit older than where the Jazz would like their players to be, but he has shown that he can perform, and be productive as a starter or as a bench piece. Plus, his salary was under $2 million, so Utah could have made him a lower deal to keep playing alongside his childhood friend [URL="https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3908809/donovan-mitchell"]Donovan Mitchell[/URL].
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He made sense if they traded all their other vets but they haven't and he couldn't wait around for them
[QUOTE]That leads us to the final offseason question for the Jazz. What will they do with Mitchell? No one knows if he will stay or go, although there are plenty of suitors. Letting Paschall go seems to indicate that Mitchell is next, but he hasn’t even requested a trade.
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O'Neale more of an indicator
[QUOTE]I think the Mitchell situation is a win-win. If they don’t trade him now, maybe he’ll be worth more at the deadline. If they do move on from him, he will certainly bring in a haul of picks and young players. The O’Neale and Gobert moves were fantastic, the only reason the Jazz remain at a B- grade so far is because they do not have a starting center and they entered the 2022 NBA Draft with no picks at all, and only came away with undrafted free agents Johnny Juzang and Kofi Cockburn, which was a little disappointing, all in all.
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they do have a starting center though like Tony Jones said they will probably get a vet if they go into the season with their vets with Udoka behind him and Kessler with the Stars. They got Kessler and Bolmaro. Both 1sts. Who cares about Juang and Kofi?
[QUOTE]When it’s all said and done, the framework for a rebuild is there, which is better than some teams can say. I think the next season will be a little rough around the edges, but with a vision moving forward, fans should be excited.
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traded a statue and have a roster that is a shit show. A little early to get excited about the current mess
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2022/08/07/the-biggest-donovan-mitchell-mock-trade-so-far/[/url]
[QUOTE][URL="https://thejnotes.com/2022/01/12/utah-jazz-guard-donovan-mitchell-trade/"]Contenders[/URL] like the Nets, Lakers, and Heat make the most sense for Mitchell. He is entering his prime and could be the difference between a Conference Finals appearance and a Finals win. Teams who are one big piece away, like the Hornets, Knicks, and Wizards, have also apparently been calling about the star.
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1 big piece away? :lol
[QUOTE]Apparently, a different deal was almost made.
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doesn't sound like any deal has almost been made
[QUOTE]The Knicks get their star in Mitchell and unload Fournier and Derrick Rose, which opens up space for Quickley, Grimes, Mitchell, and Brunson. To make the money even, they need to add Rudy Gay, but they could use the frontcourt help anyway.
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NY wants Rose
[QUOTE]The Knicks will have to pay Westbrook this year, probably work out a buyout with Rose, and overpay Fournier for a few years. The return that makes it all worth it? Seven first-round picks. All the high estimates had the deal maxing out at six picks, so the Jazz get even more than their wildest dreams.
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Ainge wants 7. 5 unprotected. He's happy. Replace Rose in the deal and get it done!
[QUOTE]Will the Jazz be able to compete for the next two years? Nope, but come 2030 the Jazz should have a small-market dynasty. It’s been done before, and they would be able to build totally through the draft. It’s the right way to do things.
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2030!!! :roll:
[URL="http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2zgkmwuk"]It's either give up Rose or give up some combination of their young guys. Not that they want to give up all those picks that Ainge covets either.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2zgkmwuk[/URL]
[url]https://fansided.com/2022/08/05/nba-rumors-3-team-donovan-mitchell-trade/[/url]
[QUOTE]The Knicks win the trade, hands down. They don’t gut their roster for Mitchell, thus allowing them to compete for a high playoff spot out West.
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hard to see Ainge making a trade he doesn't win big in. Mitchell might not even end up being a top 5 player in this deal when all is said and done!
Chris Haynes: Free agent forward [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Paris Bass has reached an agreement on a one-year deal with the Utah Jazz,[/URL] his agent Daniel Hazan of @hazansportsmgmt tells @YahooSports.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes"]Twitter ChrisBHaynes[/URL]
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Bass[/url]
Looks like maybe he'll be a star or two way?
could end up as one of their vets depending on what goes on
[url]https://www.deseret.com/2022/8/7/23294111/nba-espn-kevin-pelton-grades-brooklyn-nets-milwaukee-bucks-philadelphia-76ers-royce-oneale[/url]
[QUOTE]On Friday, Pelton handed out [URL="https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/34342786/nba-offseason-grades-where-brooklyn-nets-philadelphia-76ers-every-east-team-check-in"]grades for the Eastern Conference[/URL], which saw four Jazz players from last season join it (the other two who are no longer on the roster, [URL="https://www.deseret.com/2022/7/1/22996921/breaking-down-the-rudy-gobert-trade-and-what-it-means-for-the-utah-jazz-nba-analysis-timberwolves"]Rudy Gobert[/URL] and [URL="https://www.deseret.com/2022/7/29/23283923/former-utah-jazz-forward-eric-paschall-reportedly-signing-with-minnesota-timberwolves"]Eric Paschall[/URL], are both now with the Minnesota Timberwolves, who got a C- from Pelton).
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should be one of the top teams in the league and maybe the best team ever in Minnesota
[QUOTE]Of the O’Neale acquisition specifically, Pelton wrote, “In terms of the moves the Nets [I]did[/I] make, sending the Utah Jazz a first-round pick for Royce O’Neale feels like an overpay given how O’Neale’s defense has declined the past two seasons.
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didn't make much sense after Durant asked to bee traded
[QUOTE]“Coming off an ACL tear, Ingles should be back somewhere around the All-Star break. Milwaukee will have to hope he can get up to speed on defense quickly enough to take advantage of his playmaking and shooting in the postseason.”
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I saw him as a minimum vet guy at this point regardless of injury so it was an overpay but great pick up!