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An [URL="https://nypost.com/2020/02/24/knicks-damyean-dotson-hate-of-hometown-astros-has-gone-too-far/"]NBA source said about four teams reached out about Dotson at the trade deadline.[/URL] Orlando, Golden State, the Nets, Detroit and Utah have shown interest in Dotson in the past.
– via [URL="https://nypost.com/2020/02/24/knicks-damyean-dotson-hate-of-hometown-astros-has-gone-too-far/"]Marc Berman @ New York Post[/URL]
[URL]https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/2/23/21146131/utah-jazz-news-phoenix-suns-news[/URL]
[QUOTE]Then there’s Ricky Rubio, whom many Utah fans lament losing in favor of Mike Conley this season.
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:roll:
[URL]https://saltcityhoops.com/another-disappointing-loss-raises-questions-about-jazzs-identity/[/URL]
[QUOTE]Last season, Jazz Nation would have been beyond ecstatic to have a 36-20 record at the 56-game mark. But this season, the collective feeling is disappointment. Partially, the expectations have probably been set at an unattainable level. And the disappointment should be tempered a little. The Jazz aren’t nearly as bad as they seem right now, but are also not nearly as good as fans believed them to be. Who are they really?
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A talented offensive team, a mediocre defensive team in need of a starting PF and more veteran depth and a new coach
[QUOTE]If you choose portions of nearly any game this season, you could say they have the potential of being a top 3 team in the league. The trouble is they can’t string together multiple quarters, let alone single quarters, of consistent high-octane play. There’s energy, intensity, focus, rhythm. And there’s really a lot of nuance to what makes this happen. Rotations and lineups are a factor. But maybe this has been mitigated somewhat through Quin’s adjustments throughout the season as well as the roster tweaks pulled off by the front office (yes, this means you Jordan Clarkson).
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haven't been a lot of adjustments. Keep the same guys doing the same thing. Why not? :facepalm
[URL]https://saltcityhoops.com/salt-city-seven-its-the-defense-did-utah-overcorrect-their-identity-playoff-race-more/[/URL]
[QUOTE]They added Emmanuel Mudiay, hardly a defensive stopper, at backup point guard. Mudiay has a big body and has gotten better defensively since joining the Jazz, but still winds up in opposing guards’ rear view mirrors way too often. They promoted Georges Niang and Tony Bradley up the depth chart, both minus defenders overall. The additions of non-paint protecting big men Jeff Green (later waived) and Ed Davis (out of the rotation) didn’t pan out.
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Mudiay isn't in the rotation and Niang barely is
[QUOTE]And yet, for all the Jazz’s troubles, they still reside just inside the top 10 for both offensive (9th) and defensive (10th) efficiency. The L.A. teams are the only other Western Conference teams in the top 10 in both, along with the Eastern elite of Milwaukee, Toronto and Boston. They also own the league’s eighth best Net Rating at +3.8.
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that shows you how little D is being played anymore because the Jazz are awful at that end
[QUOTE]It might be time for Utah’s fans to move on from the rancor around Hayward. The team has smartly retooled since he left, currently has a pair of charismatic All-Stars, and has used the flexibility of not having Hayward on their books to go after the likes of Conley and Bogdanovic. Of course, being a fan is an emotional experience, and some will still harbor some resentment over Hayward opting off of a rising team with a unique identity. There will be some boos. That’s fine. But sooner or later, the still-jilted few will realize the Jazz are in great shape without their former All-Star and the sharp feelings will fade.
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You're not too familiar with Jazz fans if you think they will stop booing Hayward or Kanter. I get to boo Ricky tonite at the game though!
[QUOTE]One thing’s for sure: you can’t write the modern history of the Utah Jazz without including the words Hayward and Rubio.
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sad but true. Ricky the latest in mind boggling Jazz moves over the decades
Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Donovan Mitchell: “We talk the talk, we gotta walk the walk. We do it in spurts, and that’s what’s frustrating.[/URL] We’re there, and then I don’t know what happens. … It’s all defense. It doesn’t matter how many points you score; we can’t guard anybody.” pic.twitter.com/RvRMXXpf51
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]
Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Joe Ingles, on if the Jazz have lost their identity: “Right now we’re not the exact same team who we’ve been for a lot of this year.[/URL] … I thought we started off reasonably well tonight and kinda slowly trickled down to where we didn’t want to be.” pic.twitter.com/72bYq8xYwO
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]
StatMuse: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]The last 4 weeks have been rough for the Jazz. 4-8 record -58 point differential[/URL] 25th in defense Only the Pistons and Wolves have more losses in that span. pic.twitter.com/W9Yixb4Jiq
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/statmuse"]Twitter statmuse[/URL]
[URL]https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2020/02/25/jazz-suns-analysis-by/[/URL]
[QUOTE][B]Juwan Morgan was the hardest one to find a mistake for, because he played five minutes and the Suns baskets during that stretch weren’t really his fault. On this one, you can argue that he should have stopped the cutter after Royce O’Neale closed out recklessly, I suppose.[/B][/QUOTE]
Maybe he should play more?
[QUOTE]There’s nothing else to say, now it’s just about going out there and doing it. Otherwise we’ll be home in May.
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make that April
[QUOTE]We won 25 games my first year, so I’ve been through worse than that. Every time you have a rough time, you get together and go past that. We had some rough times earlier this year, too, and I think it brought us closer together as a team. Like I said, we have to take some time to watch film, listen to the coaches, listen to each other and see what we can do better.
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they were tanking your first year though
[QUOTE]One of Quin Snyder’s key jobs is to motivate his players, and clearly that hasn’t been effective recently. So I suppose there’s criticism there. Tonight, he looked like a man that had tried everything, and couldn’t believe that nothing had worked. He seems like he’s shocked this is happening — but we are too.
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He's hardly tried everything. Does the same thing over and over
[QUOTE]And I think, if this continues, significant blame has to be assigned at the feet of Dennis Lindsey, Justin Zanik, and the front office. They gave up two first round picks, Jae Crowder, Kyle Korver, and Grayson Allen for a player that hasn’t contributed much and realistically looks to be on the downside of his career. That’s a lot of chips given up for not much return.
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Conley is far from their biggest problem. Signing Ed Davis instead of a starting PF is. Having 6 rookies and little depth on a team that you say is playing for a title is. Conley at least made sense on paper
[QUOTE]Bojan Bogdanovic has worked out well, and Emmanuel Mudiay’s been fine, but Jeff Green and Ed Davis were horror-show fits from day one. Ideally, the front office should have been able to see that coming, that they were square pegs in round holes. In their defense: I didn’t see it coming, and neither did most Jazz fans. But part of that job is avoiding landmines, and they haven’t avoided these ones.
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You're talking about the guys that thought Rubio was a good idea! :roll:
[URL]https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/2/24/21150275/utah-jazz-phoenix-suns-ricky-rubio-nba[/URL]
[QUOTE]“I know their game. I played with them for a long time, so I know their game — the same way they know mine,” Rubio said.
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and yet they were fouling you on 3 point shots! :rant
[URL]https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/2/25/21152816/its-on-the-utah-jazz-players-to-right-the-ship-not-the-coaches[/URL]
[QUOTE]The Jazz have at least one thing going for them. Despite their poor performances and the results that have followed, they are in agreement that Quin Snyder and his staff are not at fault.
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sadly in Utah the coaches are never at fault. A big reason why they have no championships and likely never will
[QUOTE]Snyder is also the same coach that led the Utah Jazz to the league’s second best defense last season, the league’s best defense in 2017-18 and the third best defense the year before that.
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The same guy who's teams have been horrible at both ends without Rudy
The problem: The Jazz’s very foundation has cracked. “I feel like it’s not in our DNA yet to be dogs defensively as a team,” says Gobert, the two-time reigning Defensive Player of the Year. [URL="https://tv5.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28779007/a-roller-coaster-winter-left-jazz-searching-identity"]“It’s in the program’s DNA, but we don’t come out every night thinking, ‘I’m going to be physical; I’m going to make things hard for the other guy.’ We need that dog mentality.”[/URL] Statistically, the Jazz this season are a mediocre defensive team. They rank 13th in defensive rating, allowing 108.3 points per 100 possessions. It’s the worst Utah has been on that end of the floor since 2013-14, when they won 25 games and Gobert was a raw rookie who spent most of the season in the G League.
– via [URL="https://tv5.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28779007/a-roller-coaster-winter-left-jazz-searching-identity"]ESPN.com[/URL]
[URL]https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2020/02/27/jazz-celtics-analysis-by/[/URL]
[QUOTE][B]Pro: The Jazz only gave up 114 points instead of 131 points on Monday. That’s better![/B]
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Boston on a back to back though :(
[QUOTE]But where I think the difference is made is with the bench units. Ingles played poorly coming off the bench at the beginning of the season — and for good reason, he really needs an excellent pick-and-roll big to play with to be effective offensively. Plus, Conley’s strong points are his team leadership with the ball in his hands, like the role he played in Memphis. Having get the ball more in a 6th man role could get him back closer to his last-season peak.
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The bench sucked early in the year. Different bench now and Bradley is good in the pick n roll. Problem is Ingles didn't have the ball much.
[QUOTE]Either way, it’s a terrible look. First, I believe it’s just the wrong decision: Ingles should be starting instead of Conley, for the reasons I wrote above. I mean, look at Ingles’ line tonight: two points on 1-3 shooting, two assists, two fouls, and a game-low -17. It’s just one game, but it tends to support my line of thinking.
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No. Conley makes too much money. They have to make it work or he needs to be traded. Simple as that. Ingles needs to figure it out off the bench
[QUOTE]But secondly, making a change and then changing the change isn’t good for anyone involved, either. The players had hours to come to grips with one decision, and prepared in shootaround for that outcome. Then, the rug is pulled mid-afternoon, and they have to handle that? Even if starting lineups aren’t critical, the whiplash certainly isn’t helpful. From an organizational point of view, it sets the Jazz back some, making things look circus-like in what typically has been regarded as one of the NBA’s best-run franchises.
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it's always been a joke. The fact that they don't have a starting PF to make the choice between Ingles and ONeale to begin with is a perfect example.
[QUOTE]Then, catastrophe. O’Neale passes up the wide open shot to pass to Conley, who passes up a wide open shot to pass to O’Neale again, who passes up a wide open shot to pass to Ingles, who passes up a wide open shot to do nothing with it. Then, Conley misses the iso layup.
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ONeale's biggest problem. He had the best shot twice and gave it up. Needs to shoot when open
[URL]https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/2/27/21154544/gordon-hayward-enes-kanter-utah-jazz-news-boston-celtics-news[/URL]
[QUOTE]“That was the first time I was just not nervous,” Kanter said. “Every time I come here I’m usually really nervous, but now we got Gordon, who of course is going to get more boos.”
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why of course though? Kanter actually talked smack about Utah. Hayward just left for another team. It's embarrassing really
Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Rudy Gobert: “Even if we lost a few games that we think we should have won, we’re still in a good position.[/URL] We still wanna be a playoff team, and we still think if we do the right things, we can be very good. We’ve gotta figure it out now and finish the season on a high note.” pic.twitter.com/PK9kRmraoD
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjaz[/URL]z
Eric Walden: Rudy Gobert: I think (the defense) was day and night compared to the last three games. We still have some work to do, but overall we put ourselves in a position where we can win the game. … [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]For the most part, I think we are in the right path defensively.”[/URL] pic.twitter.com/G56EDlSkgp
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]
Mike Conley left shootaround on Wednesday morning a sixth man. [URL="https://theathletic.com/1639767/2020/02/27/lineup-changes-confusion-and-more-struggles-for-jazz-team-in-search-of-answers/?source=twittered"]He went home. He digested the news. And then he went and took his routine afternoon nap. He woke up a starter once again, his name a popular search on Twitter and social media[/URL].
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/1639767/2020/02/27/lineup-changes-confusion-and-more-struggles-for-jazz-team-in-search-of-answers/?source=twittered"]Tony Jones @ The Athletic[/URL]
It was a move first reported by The Athletic. Head coach Quin Snyder inserted Royce O’Neale back into the starting group, while notifying Conley he would take on a bench role. A few hours later, it was Joe Ingles who went to the bench, with Conley remaining the starter. The moves made for a long day for everyone involved. And then a defeat that dropped them into the sixth spot in the Western Conference made for a long [URL="https://theathletic.com/1639767/2020/02/27/lineup-changes-confusion-and-more-struggles-for-jazz-team-in-search-of-answers/?source=twittered"]night. “I was told I was coming off the bench, and I took a nap and woke up and I was starting,” Conley said. “It just happened that way. We have to take more advantage of our transition chances. We have to avoid having the basketball stick.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/1639767/2020/02/27/lineup-changes-confusion-and-more-struggles-for-jazz-team-in-search-of-answers/?source=twittered"]Tony Jones @ The Athletic[/URL]
Andy Larsen: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Bojan Bogdanovic: My whole career, I’ve been best after the All-Star break. I need to get back to the usual Bojan starting tonight[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/andyblarsen"]Twitter andyblarsen[/URL]
Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Bojan Bogdanovic: “I don’t care about my numbers. The team is losing and I’m playing bad, so I’m putting the pressure on my back, individually — that we are playing bad because of me.[/URL] So I have to step up, wake up, and play better.”
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]