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[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;14651831]now they want Barrett?[/QUOTE]
All the talk I've seen was they don't want Barrett because you have to immediately pay him. In fact the rumours were that no one really wants Barrett, because you'd likely have to pay him the max and he's not really worth it. If he's your best or 2nd best player then you're probably not getting far (as the Knicks showed).
If anything the Knicks want to unload him more than anyone really wants him.
[QUOTE=El Kabong;14652288]All the talk I've seen was they don't want Barrett because you have to immediately pay him. In fact the rumours were that no one really wants Barrett, because you'd likely have to pay him the max and he's not really worth it. If he's your best or 2nd best player then you're probably not getting far (as the Knicks showed).
If anything the Knicks want to unload him more than anyone really wants him.[/QUOTE]
Hasn't sounded like the Jazz want him or that the Knicks want to get rid of him but it doesn't sound like the Knicks want to trade anyone but Randle and maybe Fournier and Ainge only cares about the picks. Imagine a team with Mitchell and Barrett on max deals. Is it even a play in team in a now stronger east?
[URL="https://www.deseret.com/faith/2022/8/19/23313424/nba-star-thurl-bailey-joins-tabernacle-choir"]Thurl Bailey, former NBA player, sports broadcaster, singer/songwriter and public speaker, is joining the Tabernacle Choir at Temple Square.[/URL] The former Jazzman will greet audiences and distinguished guests before the choir’s weekly performance of “Music and the Spoken Word” on a rotating basis. He will begin welcoming audiences this Sunday at the Conference Center, according to a news release.
– via [URL="https://www.deseret.com/faith/2022/8/19/23313424/nba-star-thurl-bailey-joins-tabernacle-choir"]Trent Toone @ deseret.com[/URL]
Christos Tsaltas: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Simone Fontecchio had another one solid game with Italian national team[/URL] 18 points 7-13 FG 3 rebounds 5 assists 1 steal 19 +/- Italy defeated 96-80 Czech Republic in Hamburg. Utah Jazz forward will be cornerstone in the upcoming Eurobasket. #Italbasket #TakeNote
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/Tsaltas46"]Twitter Tsaltas46[/URL]
[QUOTE] Chris Fedor: [URL="https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2022/08/lebron-james-could-still-find-a-way-to-cleveland-cavaliers-for-a-third-time-wine-and-gold-talk-podcast.html"]The Cavs have had conversations with Dallas about a sign and trade for Collin Sexton.[/URL] But if you’re talking about a sign-and-trade, the Cavs need something back that is going to be valuable to them. And neither the Jazz nor the Mavericks have the pieces that the Cavs would want back in a sign and trade for Colin.
– via [URL="https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2022/08/lebron-james-could-still-find-a-way-to-cleveland-cavaliers-for-a-third-time-wine-and-gold-talk-podcast.html"]Hayden Grove @ Cleveland Plain Dealer[/URL]
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might depend on how much Sexton would agree to but I would think several vets would fit with the Cavs
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2022/8/19/23312123/what-kind-of-trade-value-does-bojan-bogdanovic-have-utah-jazz-nba-donovan-mitchell-los-angeles-laker[/url]
[QUOTE]For me, the player that stands out as the most valuable in that group is Bojan Bogdanovic. Last season, Bogdanovic put up solid averages of 18.1 points, 4.3 rebounds, and 1.7 assists per game on 45.5/38.7/85.8 percent shooting splits. On the offensive end, Boganovic had one of his most impactful seasons to date: according to Bball Index, Bogdanovic posted a career second-best 3.60 LEBRON WAR and career-high 1.68 O-LEBRON. Off his stellar shooting alone, Bogdanovic can create amazing gravity on the perimeter, spacing out defenses and allowing ball-handlers on his team to drive into the paint with less congestion.
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why even show his rebound and assist numbers? They are awful especially since some call him their PF! :roll:
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2022/08/21/miami-mock-trade-excludes-donovan-mitchell/[/url]
Why even waste time with this shit? Ainge doesn't want a 28 year old with 4 years on his contract. Next
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;14652759][url]https://thejnotes.com/2022/08/21/miami-mock-trade-excludes-donovan-mitchell/[/url]
Why even waste time with this shit? Ainge doesn't want a 28 year old with 4 years on his contract. Next[/QUOTE]
Reckon there would be more than a few contenders looking at Bojan, so no need to take back bad deals in the process. Same with Pat Beverly who I reckon gets moved before the season starts too. Conley might be the only one you gotta be a bit less strict with since he's got 2 years at decent money left on his deal.
[QUOTE=El Kabong;14652866]Reckon there would be more than a few contenders looking at Bojan, so no need to take back bad deals in the process. Same with Pat Beverly who I reckon gets moved before the season starts too. Conley might be the only one you gotta be a bit less strict with since he's got 2 years at decent money left on his deal.[/QUOTE]
Toronto is the only team I've saw rumored to actually have interest in Bojan. Conley only has a partial guarantee for year 2. I would think Conley or Beverley will be gone so Butler can play though. I think they can get rid of everyone but it might have to wait for the trade deadline. Running out of time and teams are filling their rosters.
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2022/8/21/23316012/more-insights-about-the-donovan-mitchell-trade-discussions-between-the-jazz-and-knicks-utah-new-york[/url]
[QUOTE]This is a solid addition for the Knicks. Having a young superstar in New York like Donovan Mitchell would make the KNicks fun again. But they won’t just be fun, adding 10 wins means they’re a consistent playoff team for years, and if there’s one things the Knicks need, it’s some consistency.
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good luck with that. Your D is certain to get worse. Will there be enough balls to keep everyone happy?
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2022/08/18/ranking-the-top-10-guards-in-utah-jazz-history/[/url]
[QUOTE]Despite never tasting NBA Championship success, the Utah Jazz have been one of the most consistent franchises in the NBA over the past 40 years, and over that time, they’ve hosted some legendary names. Names like Adrian Dantley, Carlos Boozer, Rudy Gobert and the iconic Karl Malone have all donned the famous Jazz Note, but today, we are going to take a special look at the guards that made this franchise what it is today.[/QUOTE]
1 name out of place there :facepalm
[QUOTE][h=3]9. Jordan Clarkson[/h][/QUOTE]
my least favorite Jazzman ever and that's saying something. Hard to watch him play even on the rare occasion he is hitting his prayers
[QUOTE][h=3]8. Jeff Malone[/h][/QUOTE]
another of my least favorites. Acquired to extend the D so Malone could work inside. The problem was his game was 10-15 feet! Would have been happy if they'd cut him and they got Horny for him!
[QUOTE]After moving to Utah from New Orleans, the Jazz franchise continued to struggle, but it was due to players like Rickey Green that they were able to move out of that phase, as he was integral to the teams first ever playoff berth, as he played hards on both ends of the floor and was an electric player for this franchise night in, night out. Green put together some great seasons in Utah, but his best was in 1984, when he tallied 13 points, 9 assists and 3 steals per game, en route to his first and only All-Star appearance, but ultimately, a young guy named John Stockton would come in and after a year or two of pressuring Green, would ultimately take the starting point guard spot from him.
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Ricky was one of the best pgs in the league for a few years but should have been traded as soon as they got Stockton. He was that good! Instead they lost him in the expansion draft for nothing
[QUOTE]At the peak of his career, Griffith was averaging 22 points per game, but as he went on, the Jazz found players like Stockton and Malone, and began phasing him out as a top option, and after all the years of high-flying, his body was really starting to pay the price. Ultimately, he’ll be remembered fondly by Jazz fans from that era, but for most, he’ll be overshadowed by the emergence of the players that ended up taking Utah to the next level, but he should be remembered for what he did for Utah in the early 80’s.
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He was phased out because he held out for more money. Playing behind the stiff Hansen. He actually got better as he aged as his D and ball handling improved
[QUOTE][h=3]5. Jeff Hornacek[/h][/QUOTE]
I'd have him 4th without a doubt
[QUOTE][h=3]2. Donovan Mitchell[/h][/QUOTE]
ahead of a HOFer? :lol
[QUOTE]Mitchell has faced plenty of criticism for his lack of defensive intensity over the past season or so, but as an offensive threat, there are few better shooting guards in today’s NBA, with an ability to score the basketball at will in many different ways. He may not have the accolades of a Deron Williams or Pete Maravich, but as an individual player, Donovan has solidified himself as one of the best players in the league today, and with Rudy Gobert now gone, he can lead this team as his own now, and it’s only a matter of time until the awards and recognition follow.
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he may never even be an all star again
no Gail Goodrich? :facepalm
[QUOTE] [URL="https://theathletic.com/3526628/2022/08/22/kevin-durant-donovan-mitchell-trade-talk-shams/?source=nbatw"]The Jazz and Knicks are in discussions on a trade that would send Donovan Mitchell to New York, according to sources. A deal is not considered imminent yet,[/URL] but the Knicks are motivated to acquire Mitchell and have proposed new packages to Utah’s new front office led by CEO Danny Ainge.
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/3526628/2022/08/22/kevin-durant-donovan-mitchell-trade-talk-shams/?source=nbatw"]Shams Charania @ The Athletic[/URL]
[URL="https://theathletic.com/3526628/2022/08/22/kevin-durant-donovan-mitchell-trade-talk-shams/?source=nbatw"]New York made a recent offer of Evan Fournier, Obi Toppin, additional salary and two unprotected first-round draft picks (five total),[/URL] league sources tell me and The Athletic’s Tony Jones. The Jazz’s asking price has been more significant than that.
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/3526628/2022/08/22/kevin-durant-donovan-mitchell-trade-talk-shams/?source=nbatw"]Shams Charania @ The Athletic[/URL]
[URL="https://theathletic.com/3526628/2022/08/22/kevin-durant-donovan-mitchell-trade-talk-shams/?source=nbatw"]The Charlotte Hornets and Washington Wizards have been among the teams interested in Mitchell as well,[/URL] sources said.
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/3526628/2022/08/22/kevin-durant-donovan-mitchell-trade-talk-shams/?source=nbatw"]Shams Charania @ The Athletic[/URL]
[URL="https://theathletic.com/3526628/2022/08/22/kevin-durant-donovan-mitchell-trade-talk-shams/?source=nbatw"]The Celtics and free agent guard/forward Denzel Valentine have agreed to an Exhibit 10 training camp deal,[/URL] sources said. Valentine will compete for one of the Celtics’ open roster spots in training camp.
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/3526628/2022/08/22/kevin-durant-donovan-mitchell-trade-talk-shams/?source=nbatw"]Shams Charania @ The Athletic[/URL]
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Toppin now on the table but Danny can't like only two unprotected
[url]https://sports.yahoo.com/knicks-reportedly-offer-five-first-181815271.html[/url]
[QUOTE]The Jazz are not going to get “significantly” more than that. The [URL="https://nba.nbcsports.com/2022/08/21/knicks-jazz-reportedly-still-talking-mitchell-trade-despite-utahs-sky-high-ask/"]Jazz reportedly initially asked for seven first-round picks[/URL], and the Knicks recoiled.
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we'll see. It's not necessarily how many picks but whose picks and the protections on them. 4 unprotected Knicks 1sts might get it done?
[QUOTE]One sticking point has been [URL="https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/basketball/nba/player/51469/quentin-grimes"]Quentin Grimes[/URL] — the Jazz want the young shooting guard, [URL="https://nba.nbcsports.com/2022/08/21/knicks-jazz-reportedly-still-talking-mitchell-trade-despite-utahs-sky-high-ask/"]the Knicks and coach Tom Thibodeau want to keep him[/URL]. Maybe that is significant enough to get the deal done.
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I doubt Danny cares that much about Grimes. All about the picks
[QUOTE]However, [URL="https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/basketball/nba/player/58189/leon-rose"]Leon Rose[/URL] and the Knicks will not start bidding against themselves. Rose has been patient and smarter than that as an executive. The Knicks are not going to make a move like the Timberwolves that surprised front offices around the league because they surrendered so much (Minnesota may be locked into the key parts of this roster, but the All-Star leap [URL="https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/basketball/nba/player/58299/anthony-edwards"]Anthony Edwards[/URL] seems poised to make gives them room to improve). Miami can offer three first-round picks and [URL="https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/basketball/nba/player/51044/tyler-herro"]Tyler Herro[/URL] — that is not better than the Knicks package now on the table. So why should Rose and the Knicks up that offer?
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James ****in' Dolan!
[QUOTE]The Knicks can let the Jazz come to them, and if Ainge wants to bring Mitchell to training camp — and into the season, where he would win games for a Utah team looking to be near the top of the lottery — then go ahead. [URL="https://nba.nbcsports.com/2022/07/23/jalen-brunson-not-letting-stress-of-big-contract-new-york-get-to-him/"]The Knicks have[/URL] [URL="https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/basketball/nba/player/30604/jalen-brunson"]Jalen Brunson[/URL] and can wait.
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big assumption that they are winning with Mitchell
[QUOTE] Former Timberwolves player [URL="https://*********.com/lists/international-transactions-log-where-are-former-nba-players-going/"]Chris Johnson signed with Taiwanese team Taipei Fubon Braves for the 2022-23 season[/URL].
– via [URL="https://*********.com/lists/international-transactions-log-where-are-former-nba-players-going/"]Alberto De Roa @ *********[/URL]
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he could defend
[URL="http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2mrvqscs"]http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2mrvqscs
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all expiring. Not sure their pick situation? I like the Hornets and New York picks best