Re: Derrick Rose the best player in the League...
[QUOTE=CHi1PriDe]Bosh [B][U][SIZE="4"]before joining the heat[/SIZE][/U][/B], he was a 24/11player which is pretty beastly and Probably the 2nd best PF next to dirk and wade was probably the 2nd best sg next to kobe.
Majority of the chicago fans wanted bosh to come to the chi. if not, stat was the 2nd choice but we ended up with boozer which ended up being better :rockon:[/QUOTE]
Last season Bosh averaged less than Deng and Boozer? Are they both superstars?
Bosh is a good player, but he's not even close to being a superstar.
Wade is a superstar. Anyone who says different is an idiot.
Re: Derrick Rose the best player in the League...
[QUOTE=9erempiree]This guy comes back with a new and improved game. He looks better than ever and if he had Miami's loaded team, he could easily be in Lebron's spot. In my opinion, he's the greatest player in basketball today.
Lebron may have a better career so far but Rose is the better player.
The torch will be passed this year.
Rose
Lebron
Kobe
Durant
CP3[/QUOTE]
This clown in banned :applause:
Re: Derrick Rose the best player in the League...
[QUOTE=CHi1PriDe]Bosh before joining the heat, he was a 24/11player which is pretty beastly and Probably the 2nd best PF next to dirk and wade was probably the 2nd best sg next to kobe.
Majority of the chicago fans wanted bosh to come to the chi. if not, stat was the 2nd choice but we ended up with boozer which ended up being better :rockon:[/QUOTE]
Bosh was a beast on the Raptors. He seems happy to just plod along on the Heat now though.. Some nights he can still go off, has a great jumper and decent post moves.. Shame hes wasting his prime as a 3rd/4th option
Re: Derrick Rose the best player in the League...
[QUOTE=CHi1PriDe]Rose's defensive ratings > westbrook[/QUOTE]
Thats because Chicago collectively is better defensively as a team. Rose is a poor defender.
Re: Derrick Rose the best player in the League...
[QUOTE=aj1987]Last season Bosh averaged less than Deng and Boozer? Are they both superstars?
Bosh is a good player, but he's not even close to being a superstar.
Wade is a superstar. Anyone who says different is an idiot.[/QUOTE]
He WAS, but yeah currently hes a role player, 3rd to 4th option most nights..
Re: Derrick Rose the best player in the League...
[QUOTE=aj1987]Last season Bosh averaged less than Deng and Boozer? Are they both superstars?
Bosh is a good player, but he's not even close to being a superstar.
Wade is a superstar. Anyone who says different is an idiot.[/QUOTE]
WTF? Are you retarded? Before lebron joined Bosh, Bosh was killing. Who gives a shit about last season, lebron obviously decreased bosh's potential :facepalm
Re: Derrick Rose the best player in the League...
[QUOTE=plowking]Thats because Chicago collectively is better defensively as a team. Rose is a poor defender.[/QUOTE]
The bulls actually get better defensively better with rose playing while he was healthy and the thunder got worse on defense with westbrook playing.
Re: Derrick Rose the best player in the League...
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Re: Derrick Rose the best player in the League...
[QUOTE=CHi1PriDe]Rose's defensive ratings > westbrook[/QUOTE]
Yeah and Durant had like the best defensive ratings in the league last year but I'm not taking him over Paul George or Tony Allen
Re: Derrick Rose the best player in the League...
[QUOTE=CHi1PriDe]WTF? Are you retarded? Before lebron joined Bosh, Bosh was killing. Who gives a shit about last season, [B]lebron obviously decreased bosh's potential[/B] :facepalm[/QUOTE]
Are all Chicago fans retarded? Lebron makes Bosh grab less rebounds and it's Lebron's fault that most big men in the NBA make Bosh their bitch, right? Lebron made Bosh go 0-5 in Game 7 of the NBA Finals, right? Name [B]ONE[/B] superstar who scored 0 points in a Finals game in his prime.
You must've never seen Bosh play. Shaq was calling Bosh the Rupaul of big men long before he joined the Heat. The guy is as soft as a marshmallow.
If Chris Bosh is a superstar, so are Deng (17/7/5) and Boozer (20/11/4). :facepalm
Re: Derrick Rose the best player in the League...
[QUOTE=CHi1PriDe]The bulls actually get better defensively better with rose playing while he was healthy and the thunder got worse on defense with westbrook playing.[/QUOTE]
No they don't.
All stats and metrics showed the opposite.
Back in his MVP season, they were better defensive with CJ Watson on the court with all other players staying the same.
EDIT: And a one time All NBA 2nd team player is not a superstar. Its really not up for debate. Latrell Sprewell for example purposes has made more all NBA teams.
Re: Derrick Rose the best player in the League...
[QUOTE=plowking]Thats because Chicago collectively is better defensively as a team. Rose is a poor defender.[/QUOTE]
Not poor, but pretty average.
He gets beaten off the dribble too often and sometimes loses his man off a high screen. He does however stay in front of his man on most occasions and does put energy into staying with his man somewhat even off the ball, which is what you can't say about "poor defenders".
Re: Derrick Rose the best player in the League...
Rose winning that BS MVP was the worst thing that could happen to Bulls fans.
People like to hate on any award winners like mad and try everything to discredit their performance. Unlike many NBA great players, Rose gives you many opportunities to talk shit about him and makes his defenders look silly.
Re: Derrick Rose the best player in the League...
[QUOTE=poido123]Not poor, but pretty average.
He gets beaten off the dribble too often and sometimes loses his man off a high screen. He does however stay in front of his man on most occasions and does put energy into staying with his man somewhat even off the ball, which is what you can't say about "poor defenders".[/QUOTE]
Derrick Rose is underrated defensively. I've always given him credit for what he does defensively. Nobody else seems to. He's much better than average. The problem is, because he's one of the least valuable defensive players on his team, people assume he's just all out bad. He isn't. He's quite good actually. You just don't realize it by comparison.
Re: Derrick Rose the best player in the League...
[QUOTE=coin24]Bosh was a beast on the Raptors. He seems happy to just plod along on the Heat now though.. Some nights he can still go off, has a great jumper and decent post moves.. Shame hes wasting his prime as a 3rd/4th option[/QUOTE]
nikka got two rings yo