Re: Its baffling how Tony Parker isn't the favorite for MVP
[QUOTE=DMAVS41]Exactly. And Lebron's team record is absolutely worthy of him getting MVP. Do you honestly dispute that?[/QUOTE]
Lebron being a worthy candidate doesn't mean that Parker is not one. Parker is a worthy candidate as well. They only give out 1 MVP.
Re: Its baffling how Tony Parker isn't the favorite for MVP
[QUOTE=bmd]But I thought the best player on the best team always wins?[/QUOTE]
Are you arguing against yourself now?
Re: Its baffling how Tony Parker isn't the favorite for MVP
You know what, I think Barkley said it best.
MVP is for the guy who had the best regular season. Overall. Not just statistically or team-based.
In that case Parker might just be a better candidate to challenge LeBron than Durant. And to be honest, MVP is basically just that.
Re: Its baffling how Tony Parker isn't the favorite for MVP
[QUOTE=Yao Ming's Foot]Lebron being a worthy candidate doesn't mean that Parker is not one. Parker is a worthy candidate as well. They only give out 1 MVP.[/QUOTE]
Of course he's worthy...he just won't get it unless something crazy happens. And rightfully so.
Lebron is having simply too good of an individual season to give it to a clearly worse player in Parker because the Spurs might win a handful more games than the Heat.
It's just not enough.
Re: Its baffling how Tony Parker isn't the favorite for MVP
[QUOTE=Yao Ming's Foot]A random year :facepalm
3 out of the last 4 MVPs played on teams with the highest regular season record.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, and 3 of the last 4 MVPs were LeBron James. That doesn't mean being LeBron james is the #1 criteria. That's the the way it's shaped up.
Re: Its baffling how Tony Parker isn't the favorite for MVP
The record differential is not big enough to take it from LeBron. LeBrons stats are so much better.
Re: Its baffling how Tony Parker isn't the favorite for MVP
[QUOTE=DMAVS41]Of course he's worthy...he just won't get it unless something crazy happens. And rightfully so.
Lebron is having simply too good of an individual season to give it to a clearly worse player in Parker because the Spurs might win a handful more games than the Heat.
It's just not enough.[/QUOTE]
Lebron was having great seasons in 2008 and 2010 as well. :confusedshrug:
Re: Its baffling how Tony Parker isn't the favorite for MVP
[QUOTE=Yao Ming's Foot]Are you arguing against yourself now?[/QUOTE]No, try to keep up. You have been implying that the MVP should go to the best player on the best team. Then how did Nash win the MVP in 2006? How did Iverson win in 2001?
Re: Its baffling how Tony Parker isn't the favorite for MVP
[QUOTE=DMAVS41]Of course he's worthy...he just won't get it unless something crazy happens. And rightfully so.
Lebron is having simply too good of an individual season to give it to a clearly worse player in Parker[B] because the Spurs might win a handful more games than the Heat.[/B]
It's just not enough.[/QUOTE]
Especially when you consider that Miami has a better record against the West then the Spurs do.
Re: Its baffling how Tony Parker isn't the favorite for MVP
Spurs win because they're deep, well-coached, and have a top 5 offense and defense. The fact that they can regularly beat good teams without Duncan, Gino, and/or Parker is a testament to Popovich's greatness at getting the most out of his players.
Pistons finished with 64 wins in 2006. You won't find anyone who isn't a retard argue that Billups, Big Ben, or Rip Hamilton was deserving of MVP.
The fact that it took injuries to Derrick Rose and dropoffs from the likes of Dirk, Westbrook, Deron Williams, and Dwight Howard in order for Parker to crack the top 10 for the first time in his career shows that he has no business being mentioned in any non-retard's MVP conversation.
Re: Its baffling how Tony Parker isn't the favorite for MVP
[QUOTE=bmd]No, try to keep up. You have been implying that the MVP should go to the best player on the best team. Then how did Nash win the MVP in 2006? How did Iverson win in 2001?[/QUOTE]
I didn't say should or always. I said based on history team wins play a major factor and its probably the most significant statistic followed by points. Field goal percentage would be #36523 .
Re: Its baffling how Tony Parker isn't the favorite for MVP
[QUOTE=greymatter]Spurs win because they're deep, well-coached, and have a top 5 offense and defense. The fact that they can regularly beat good teams without Duncan, Gino, and/or Parker is a testament to Popovich's greatness at getting the most out of his players.
Pistons finished with 64 wins in 2006. You won't find anyone who isn't a retard argue that Billups, Big Ben, or Rip Hamilton was deserving of MVP.
The fact that it took injuries to Derrick Rose and dropoffs from the likes of Dirk, Westbrook, Deron Williams, and Dwight Howard in order for Parker to crack the top 10 for the first time in his career shows that he has no business being mentioned in any non-retard's MVP conversation.[/QUOTE]
He was top 5 last year and likely top 3 this year. :confusedshrug:
Re: Its baffling how Tony Parker isn't the favorite for MVP
Legit candidate. No doubt. Lebron is playing like he's on another planet though; it's really his to lose.
Re: Its baffling how Tony Parker isn't the favorite for MVP
[QUOTE=greymatter]Spurs win because they're deep, well-coached, and have a top 5 offense and defense. The fact that they can regularly beat good teams without Duncan, Gino, and/or Parker is a testament to Popovich's greatness at getting the most out of his players.
Pistons finished with 64 wins in 2006. You won't find anyone who isn't a retard argue that Billups, Big Ben, or Rip Hamilton was deserving of MVP.
The fact that it took injuries to Derrick Rose and dropoffs from the likes of Dirk, Westbrook, Deron Williams, and Dwight Howard in order for Parker to crack the top 10 for the first time in his career shows that he has no business being mentioned in any non-retard's MVP conversation.[/QUOTE]
Billups finished 5th in MVP voting in 2006. Apparently all the retards are voting and all the experts who know what the MVP really mean are stuck on message boards. :confusedshrug:
Re: Its baffling how Tony Parker isn't the favorite for MVP
[QUOTE=Yao Ming's Foot]I didn't say should or always. I said based on history team wins play a major factor and its probably the most significant statistic followed by points. Field goal percentage would be #36523 .[/QUOTE]You are wrong. Things don't take place in a vacuum. It's all relative. FG% might usually be low on the list... but not when it is abnormally high like LeBron's. You take that into account. If the Bulls sucked, then Rose plays amazingly and now he Bulls are the best team in the NBA, you take that into account.
You take all of it into account to decide who the MVP should be. They may or may not be on the best team. It's all relative and different each year. That is why taking into account what happened when other people won in the past is meaningless, because circumstances change.