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Regardless if this game doesn't make a difference on the series outcome...regardless if the Mavs "deserved" to win or not...how can ANY of you call yourselves NBA fans and NOT be outraged that the refs blew a crunch time call that directly changed the outcome of the game?
[QUOTE=Arti]Regardless if this game doesn't make a difference on the series outcome...regardless if the Mavs "deserved" to win or not...how can ANY of you call yourselves NBA fans and NOT be outraged that the refs blew a crunch time call that directly changed the outcome of the game?[/QUOTE]
Because it was my team that won :confusedshrug:
[QUOTE=GOBB]I typed all that because you and others keep mentioning him putting his hands up, backing off. I'm showing you [B]WHY[/B] he did that. As a defender with 1 foul to give you just assume the ref will know the situation at hand and give you the call. Thats his fault for assuming wrong. [B]Try reading sometime[/B].
Whistle never blew because he expected it too. The play happened so quick. He bumped, reached in to Melo and expected a foul call. By that time Melo is gathering the ball to shoot the 3. He wants to avoid a shooting foul which offensive players try to sell the refs. Really simple.
We both agree he should have just wrapped him up once Melo regained controlled of the ball. And we arent here arguing this. But the rest of my post touched on what you spoke on so dont act like a wise ass kid.
Blame goes to the ref. And blame goes to A.Wright. The end.
Everyone moves on.[/QUOTE]
You're really barking up the wrong tree.
Why should I read the same thing I said that you just bassically reguritated to me, yet again?? I really can't understand what you're getting at, and it's understandable you're pissed, but at the end of the day, IMO, it was a dumb play by Wright; he didn't attempt to remain in front of Melo after his 'intentional foul', and acted as if he didn't want the foul and it cost him.(As you seem to agree, he should have wrapped him up) End of story. Wrap it up. It's done. It's unfourtantate, but they're down 3-0, and have no one to blame but themselves for that. This series was over from the time the ball was tipped.
I'm done.
[QUOTE=Arti]Regardless if this game doesn't make a difference on the series outcome...regardless if the Mavs "deserved" to win or not...how can ANY of you call yourselves NBA fans and NOT be outraged that the refs blew a crunch time call that directly changed the outcome of the game?[/QUOTE]
The refs were blowing calls all game long, why would they suddenly get a call right? I was really not outraged at all. Honestly I find it ironic and hilarious because in the 3rd and 4th quarter it looked like the refs were trying to hand Dallas the game on a silver platter.
[QUOTE=KeylessEntry]The refs were blowing calls all game long, why would they suddenly get a call right? I was really not outraged at all. Honestly I find it ironic and hilarious because in the 3rd and 4th quarter it looked like the refs were trying to hand Dallas the game on a silver platter.[/QUOTE]
Then you should at least be outraged at the general BAD officiating in the NBA right now.
[QUOTE=Arti]Then you should at least be outraged at the general BAD officiating in the NBA right now.[/QUOTE]
That goes without saying. The officiating in this years Playoffs has been terrible.
[QUOTE=Arti]Then you should at least be outraged at the general BAD officiating in the NBA right now.[/QUOTE]
There has been a fcking truckload of bad officiating during these playoffs.
No flagrants called on Rondo for those two brutal fouls in the Chicago series.
Multiple ticky-tack fouls on Przybilla and Oden during the Rockets series.
Artest getting ejected for a good hard playoff foul against the Lakers last night.
Why should I start getting outraged now? I can look back at the Portland vs LAL game 7 WCF game in 2000, or the Sacto vs LAL series in 2002, or how about SAS vs PHX in 2007. Bad officiating is just part of the NBA game. Instead of being outraged I will just try to enjoy it for what it is, and tonight the "outrageous" officiating turned out to be hilarious in an ironic way, so im gonna laugh my ass off.
[QUOTE=Killer_Instinct]You're really barking up the wrong tree.[/quote]
Bytch please.
[QUOTE]Why should I read the same thing I said that you just bassically reguritated to me, yet again?? I really can't understand what you're getting at, and it's understandable you're pissed, but at the end of the day, IMO, it was a dumb play by Wright;[/QUOTE]
Pissed at what? :confusedshrug:
[QUOTE]he didn't attempt to remain in front of Melo after his 'intentional foul', and acted as if he didn't want the foul and it cost him.(As you seem to agree, he should have wrapped him up)[/QUOTE]
Wrong. He didnt act like he didnt want the foul. He fouled him then backed off in case Melo attempted to SELL TO THE REF A SHOOTING FOUL/CONTINUATION. A whistle doesnt have to blow because in his mind it was an obvious foul call [I](as to most including commentators and the NBA who reviewed it)[/I].
We agree he should have just wrapped him up.
We disagree that he acted like he didnt want to foul Melo
Defensively challenging a person shooting a 3pter is frowned upon in that situation for the simple fact you put yourself at risk for fouling. This doesnt mean give up on a play which is what you think A.Wright did. He did but i already stated my argument to why.
[quote]This series was over from the time the ball was tipped.[/QUOTE]
This is dumb and shows you have a bias. The series was over from the time the ball was tipped? :oldlol: Real weak on your part. Good job kid.
[QUOTE=LbloodOjunkieG]Nobody thought the Warriors would knock the top seeded Mav's out, yet they did. This is why you play the games.[/QUOTE]
Actually... I thought the Warriors had a great chance...
You F*cking idiot.
The Warriors did great against us in the regular season, and many MAVS fans were worried about the match up.
Don Nelson?
After watching the replay over and over,
everyone expected the foul, anyone in the clutch would of wrapped Melo up.
Look at wright he looks like a dumb ass he obviously tried to avoid fouling Melo during the shot. He put up both hands as if to say I didn't foul.
Once Melo released the ball wright looks and once it's in that's when you see Wright saying oh but I fouled him where was the call.
Just a bad play in my opinion. If that was a foul that was one weak sauce foul.
3-0 and like Mavs honestly had a chance to win the series??
was hoping this to go 5 games looks like it will be a sweep.
[QUOTE=GOBB]Bytch please.
Pissed at what? :confusedshrug:
Wrong. He didnt act like he didnt want the foul. He fouled him then backed off in case Melo attempted to SELL TO THE REF A SHOOTING FOUL/CONTINUATION. A whistle doesnt have to blow because in his mind it was an obvious foul call [I](as to most including commentators and the NBA who reviewed it)[/I].
We agree he should have just wrapped him up.
We disagree that he acted like he didnt want to foul Melo
Defensively challenging a person shooting a 3pter is frowned upon in that situation for the simple fact you put yourself at risk for fouling. This doesnt mean give up on a play which is what you think A.Wright did. He did but i already stated my argument to why.
This is dumb and shows you have a bias. The series was over from the time the ball was tipped? :oldlol: Real weak on your part. Good job kid.[/QUOTE]
Obviously you're upset at the loss. OK. But why are you crying to me? I don't want to hear your sob story about [I]why[/I] you think the Mavs lost. I responded to your first post. That's all that needed to be said, and it should have been left. If we both agree that he should have wrapped him up, why does it matter anymore? We disagree on him holding his hands/not playing after the whistle. It's called opinions. You have yours, I have mine. You're not changing my mind. So just stop. It's pointless. You're acting ass sore. Get over it. It's 3-0.
I don't really care what you think, I've already explained to you(unneccessarily) just [B]why[/B] I thought the play was weak and stupid on Wright's part. And yeah. The series was over before the tip. Denver was/is clearly the better team, and I called that before Game 1. I predicted it to be over in 5 two days before the series began. Looks like a clean sweep from here, though. You going to get mad because I didn't think the Mavs had a snowballs chance in hell? Boo-f[I]u[/I]ckin'-hoo. If me making an observation about two teams I could give a sh[I]i[/I]t about makes me bias because I didn't predict your team had a chance, then you need to grow a pair. You're looking like Cuban with your fit, and it's irrelevant, because at the end of the day it's 3-0.
Cry about it, I guess. Just not to me.
What the f*ck is the point of this? I hate it when they do that. Why couldn't the officials check the replay and make the right call? Nobody gives a sh*t if the NBA admits their mistake after the game has already been decided.
[B]THE PLAY WAS WEAK[/B]
that's all it was. I could get pissed off on no calls. Look at Melo he has to get fouled hard to actually get a call on the inside.
In the end, it could have gone either way. People view the play differently and sure I'm a Nuggets fan. The way I saw it, Wright gave up on Defense and watched Melo shoot and once it went in that's when he started talking to the ref.
If you have a foul to give and you got 5seconds left make sure you wrap your player up or make it obvious. That was not an obvious foul looked like he didn't even want to get called for the foul until the shot went in.
[B]IT WAS A WEAK PLAY BY WRIGHT[/B]
i understand the nba doesn't want to slow the game down but the league is starting to lose credibility which in the long run is really the most important thing they have. they need to start doing more to insure the right call is being made, especially in late game situations like this.
[QUOTE=~primetime~]:applause:
EXXXXXactly...
unless you are a Nugs fan this should piss you off...
[B]honestly the last 3 years or so I have starting to think really differently about the NBA in general...[/B]
Is a sport broken when a "foul" is a good thing?
might have to start that thread...but would get alot of "STFU you Mavs cry baby"...
Cuban has been talking about this for a long time...the game is not ment to be played to take advantage of fouls and if it is happenening then things need to change...[/QUOTE]
I agree that in hindsight a foul should have been called. BUT I can't help but not get bent out of shape when:
1. If the team is coached properly, don't you tell the refs you have a foul to give and plan to use it (like you warn them about a time out at a crucial moment).
2. If that shot doesn't go in, I guarantee Dallas doesn't say a word. He clearly tried to play it off hoping for that very thing. If you're going to make that foul, you don't swipe - you leave no doubt. That stupid gesture he made after looked a lot like "I didn't touch him", regardless. The ref may have felt he was giving Dallas a break; it's not his job to know there's a foul to give meaning they plan to foul.
3. All this constant hysterics (like the bold above) about how the NBA is ruined with all these bad calls makes me ill. There have been some good series and the teams that should have won did.
There's always disputed calls in the playoffs. It's a hard job.
Dallas was up 4 with 30 seconds left I believe, at home. I wish they would have won, but they didn't. If they were the better team they would have.