Re: Would Bulls fans trade Derrick Rose for LeBron James if they had the chance?
Man, I really can't wait for the playoffs. It's going to reveal so much. :oldlol:
Re: Would Bulls fans trade Derrick Rose for LeBron James if they had the chance?
[QUOTE=jasonresno]Why would we? Bulls > Heat. Rose is our superstar. Home town hero. Rookie of the Year, 2x All Star, and about to be the league MVP in his 3rd season.
Nope. Management wouldn't either.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. Lebron is incredible for sure, but so is derrick Rose. People talk about the potential of LBJ and how much he may still improve, but it is more than fair to be saying the exact same thing about derrick right now.
Derrick Rose may be the best player in the league in one or two years, why would the Bulls management give up on such a young player? Derrick is the hometown hero and his performance on the court fully warrants giving him the benefit of the doubt over Lebron.
Re: Would Bulls fans trade Derrick Rose for LeBron James if they had the chance?
[QUOTE=guy]Not a chance. Rose is way too loved by the fans, teammates, and coaches. Trading away Rose would be the Celtics trading away Perkins x 1000 as far as the reaction to it goes.
Not to mention the following:
He's younger.
He doesn't care about anything but basketball and winning, unlike Lebron who does care too much about his stats and too much off the court stuff like his "brand".
If the Bulls want him, he'll be there for the rest of his career, which could be 10-15 years. If the Bulls don't win enough in the 4-5 years, good chance Lebron leaves. If he didn't have a problem leaving Cleveland after winning 60 games for back to back seasons, he'd have less of a problem leaving a team that wasn't his hometown and was traded to.
Its not like trading Rose for Lebron makes this team so much better, if better at all. You don't get much better then a title contender winning 60 games and the no. 1 seed with a bunch of injuries to some of your best players. Lebron won't make this team that much, if better at all, to make up for all those reasons I've mentioned above.[/QUOTE]
Exactly, every team would love to have Rose at this point, bulls are very lucky
Re: Would Bulls fans trade Derrick Rose for LeBron James if they had the chance?
LeBron might be the better individual player, but people probably like Rose better.
The thing with LeBron is all mental, he doesn't have mental toughness to actually come through in the stretch. That's why having someone else like Dwyane Wade to lead him is huge.
I don't think Bulls Fans or most people would do this trade, just because of the hatred of LeBron. But if it's a straight up trade, GMs might just do it.
Re: Would Bulls fans trade Derrick Rose for LeBron James if they had the chance?
[QUOTE=KelticForce1349]Exactly. Lebron is incredible for sure, but so is derrick Rose. People talk about the potential of LBJ and how much he may still improve, but it is more than fair to be saying the exact same thing about derrick right now.
Derrick Rose may be the best player in the league in one or two years, why would the Bulls management give up on such a young player? Derrick is the hometown hero and his performance on the court fully warrants giving him the benefit of the doubt over Lebron.[/QUOTE]
And Rose avging more blocks than LeBron this season being 6 inches shorter
Re: Would Bulls fans trade Derrick Rose for LeBron James if they had the chance?
People bringing up LeBron doing more with less in Cleveland like The Bulls haven't pwned him as a Heat.
Brilliant.
Re: Would Bulls fans trade Derrick Rose for LeBron James if they had the chance?
[QUOTE=kidachi]to me that PER is bullsh[I]i[/I]t.
if they're both unknowns and we all know don't know their personality whatsoever except how they play... it's a general consensus.. LeBron will be picked first..
Slashing, athleticism, scoring ability, passing, defense, aggressiveness.. all that.. they have that..
BUT..
Bron is bigger.. thus making you create more mismatches.. He's bigger and stronger than SFs and he's faster than PFs..
We dislike LeBron (yes, it includes me, a heat fan) because of the personality.. the conceitedness, cockiness, the stereotype a-hole..
But it's outside of basketball..[/QUOTE]
But he quits and chokes when games matter most. James is all of that, but at the end of the day I rather retain the lesser player overall for the mere fact that he is better when it matters. It's not about being the best in regular season it's about being the best when it matters. This is one of the main reasons people will never give leBron the nod over bryant. James is great when there's nothing at stake
Re: Would Bulls fans trade Derrick Rose for LeBron James if they had the chance?
[QUOTE=PleezeBelieve]People bringing up LeBron doing more with less in Cleveland like The Bulls haven't pwned him as a Heat.
Brilliant.[/QUOTE]
now he's doing less with more....
Re: Would Bulls fans trade Derrick Rose for LeBron James if they had the chance?
Great thread PB. Its funny how ppl are saying Lebron has been to the finals and rose ain't been to the second round. Lebron had the easiest path to the finals EVER. Play the Wizards in the first round WITHOUT Arenas anf Butler. Play the shitty Nets counting on VC. Play the over the hill pistons without Ben Wallace. The Pistons was only a 53 win team which is s Average team in the western conference. Not to mention he didn't play great that series. Then he was EXPOSED vs the Spurs. While Drose has played 2 60 win teams in the first round and played better vs them than Lebron has vs good teams.
Playoff Rose> Playoff Lebron
Re: Would Bulls fans trade Derrick Rose for LeBron James if they had the chance?
Well.
Seen this all before. I like Rose, but his fans will ultimately make me not like him as much as I do now. The over-rating is already out of control.
Rose is nowhere near the player Lebron is yet.....same with Wade.
This is going to be Kobe all over again.
:facepalm
Re: Would Bulls fans trade Derrick Rose for LeBron James if they had the chance?
the bulls with lebron would be much better. lebron would suit chicago perfectly, two guys who can get their own shot from time to time in boozer and deng, and noah, and boozer can finish well around the rim off of LBJ pick and rolls, and deng, korver can space the floor, obviously the bulls would need a replacement pg tho
Re: Would Bulls fans trade Derrick Rose for LeBron James if they had the chance?
[QUOTE=kaiiu]Great thread PB. Its funny how ppl are saying Lebron has been to the finals and rose ain't been to the second round. Lebron had the easiest path to the finals EVER. Play the Wizards in the first round WITHOUT Arenas anf Butler. Play the shitty Nets counting on VC. Play the over the hill pistons without Ben Wallace. The Pistons was only a 53 win team which is s Average team in the western conference. Not to mention he didn't play great that series. Then he was EXPOSED vs the Spurs. While Drose has played 2 60 win teams in the first round and played better vs them than Lebron has vs good teams.
Playoff Rose> Playoff Lebron[/QUOTE]
LeBron had the biggest choke performance of all time during last years playoffs
Re: Would Bulls fans trade Derrick Rose for LeBron James if they had the chance?
[QUOTE=PleezeBelieve]Unless you care about PER or having as many players as possible who speak in third-person, I'm not understanding why you would trade Rose for James.
James has been exposed this year, homie.
Fact.
Now its to the point you have to factor age + potential, and that's if you need to go that far to validate not making a deal that shouldn't be done from the get go.[/QUOTE]
lol nice. It's like this guy's thoughts have done a complete 180. I could never imagine him posting something about this about Lebron last year.
Re: Would Bulls fans trade Derrick Rose for LeBron James if they had the chance?
[QUOTE=chips93]the bulls with lebron would be much better. lebron would suit chicago perfectly, [B]two guys who can get their own shot from time to time in boozer and deng[/B], and noah, and boozer can finish well around the rim off of LBJ pick and rolls, and deng, korver can space the floor, obviously the bulls would need a replacement pg tho[/QUOTE]
This right here tells me you don't watch Bulls basketball.
Deng has NEVER been good at getting his own shot off, as well as Boozer.
Counting on them to produce their OWN offense is not a logical expectation.
Re: Would Bulls fans trade Derrick Rose for LeBron James if they had the chance?
LeBron is better than Rose at literally every facet of the game except free throw shooting. Taking away the decision, of course they do and don't even think about it.