Wade or Iverson?

[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]If you don't understand how or why Iverson was a better scorer than Wade than you are definitely a new basketball fan. Iverson is easily one of the best scorers of all time and that was as a 6'0 165 pound slashing guard with a streaky shot. Iverson is leaps ahead of Wade when it comes to scoring. Wade is more efficient but Iverson was by far the more explosive, consistent and dependable scorer. These 10 point games Wade has occasionally almost never happened with Iverson in his prime.

Wade is a better defender... and rebounder and that has a lot to do with his size and strength. Iverson was a better off the ball defender and better at playing passing lanes. Both equal passers/playmakers but Iverson never played next to an elite talent like just out of prime Shaq or Lebron.[/QUOTE]
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The only aspect Iverson even has a case for is scoring and even there he's clearly outclassed. Wade gives you 30 on close to 50% shooting while Iverson gives you 30 on 42% on a good day. How is Iverson a better scorer? I would love to see an explanation.

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Regular season
Year Team GP GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% RPG APG SPG BPG PPG
1996

[QUOTE=donald_trump]lol iverson was not a better scorer than wade.

wade is better at getting to the ring.
better from midrange.
equal from 3.
better in the post.
and better off the catch and shoot.

what makes iverson the better scorer? id love to hear the reasons for the people claiming so.[/QUOTE]

Iverson was better catch and shoot player. in 01, he was one of the best catch and shoot player in the league.

Iverson had more range and probably better shooter than wade.

Wade's midrange jumper was great back in 06 but now its not that deadly.Iverson had great jumper almost all career.

Wade has better post of couse. Iverson is barely 6'0 and 165.

Both of them great at getting ring.Prime AI was getting his scores more around rim than his later years.Wade is more effective near to rim due to his size and strenght over iverson.

Iverson had 4 more than 30 ppg seasons.30.7,31.1,31.4 and 33.0. Wade's peak is 30.2.
At 30 years old iverson had 33 ppg,7.4 apg. Wade at 29 years old had 25.5 ppg and 4.6 apg.
For the ones who might say Wade playing next to lebron so his numbers getting lower...Iverson played with Melo at the 32 years old. (same age with today's so called too old kobe)

Wade with Lebron (at 29 years old)
25.5 ppg,6.4 rpg, 4.6 apg.
Iverson with Melo (at 32 years old)
26.4 ppg,3 rpg,7.1 apg.


Iverson has
MVP
4 scoring titles (most after Jordan & Wilt)
6th best ppg in regular season history (He was 3rd before trade to detroit.. but still has change to rise up due to Lebron's numbers going down)
2nd best ppg in playoff history.
1st at steal leading for 3 times.
Arguably one of the toughest player ever in NBA (if not most)

He did it all with being 6'0 and 165 pounds in giants league.Let's not forget he played great against mighty Bulls back in 90's.

Wade has
1 ring.
1 scoring title.

People always tend to forget Wade is at 29 and his prime years. Iverson played until 34 and his last 2 seasons were bad because of bad management and injuries.

so Iverson in 14 seasons:
[B]26.7 ppg[/B]
3.7 rpg
6.2 apg
[B]2.2 spg[/B]
0.2 bpg
42.5 %FG, [B]31.3 %3PT, 78 %FT
[/B]
Wade in 8 seasons:
25.4 ppg
[B]5.1 rpg
6.3 apg[/B]
1.8 spg
[B]1 bpg[/B]
[B]48.5 %FG[/B], 29.2 %3PT, 76.9 %FT.

There is a big possiblity that Wade's career numbers will go down while he may win more rings.I assume Wade will end up at better ranking in most of media guys and fans head.

Both of them great players for sure. Wade is more all around while iverson were better scorer and thief.

Saying iverson wasn't on same level with Wade is for only ignorants.

Kobe,Wade,Iverson, Pre-Injury T-Mac were almost same level. Some of them were better scorers,some of them better passers,some of them better rebounders..but they were at same level.Anybody who is not a stan and watch early 00's and today probably would know it.

[QUOTE=rodman91]Iverson was better catch and shoot player. in 01, he was one of the best catch and shoot player in the league.

Iverson had more range and probably better shooter than wade.

Wade's midrange jumper was great back in 06 but now its not that deadly.Iverson had great jumper almost all career.

Wade has better post of couse. Iverson is barely 6'0 and 165.

Both of them great at getting ring.Prime AI was getting his scores more around rim than his later years.Wade is more effective near to rim due to his size and strenght over iverson.

Iverson had 4 more than 30 ppg seasons.30.7,31.1,31.4 and 33.0. Wade's peak is 30.2.
At 30 years old iverson had 33 ppg,7.4 apg. Wade at 29 years old had 25.5 ppg and 4.6 apg.
For the ones who might say Wade playing next to lebron so his numbers getting lower...Iverson played with Melo at the 32 years old. (same age with today's so called too old kobe)

Wade with Lebron (at 29 years old)
25.5 ppg,6.4 rpg, 4.6 apg.
Iverson with Melo (at 32 years old)
26.4 ppg,3 rpg,7.1 apg.


Iverson has
MVP
4 scoring titles (most after Jordan & Wilt)
6th best ppg in regular season history (He was 3rd before trade to detroit.. but still has change to rise up due to Lebron's numbers going down)
2nd best ppg in playoff history.
1st at steal leading for 3 times.
Arguably one of the toughest player ever in NBA (if not most)

He did it all with being 6'0 and 165 pounds in giants league.Let's not forget he played great against mighty Bulls back in 90's.

Wade has
1 ring.
1 scoring title.

People always tend to forget Wade is at 29 and his prime years. Iverson played until 34 and his last 2 seasons were bad because of bad management and injuries.

so Iverson in 14 seasons:
[B]26.7 ppg[/B]
3.7 rpg
6.2 apg
[B]2.2 spg[/B]
0.2 bpg
42.5 %FG, [B]31.3 %3PT, 78 %FT
[/B]
Wade in 8 seasons:
25.4 ppg
[B]5.1 rpg
6.3 apg[/B]
1.8 spg
[B]1 bpg[/B]
[B]48.5 %FG[/B], 29.2 %3PT, 76.9 %FT.

There is a big possiblity that Wade's career numbers will go down while he may win more rings.I assume Wade will end up at better ranking in most of media guys and fans head.

Both of them great players for sure. Wade is more all around while iverson were better scorer and thief.

Saying iverson wasn't on same level with Wade is for only ignorants.

Kobe,Wade,Iverson, Pre-Injury T-Mac were almost same level. Some of them were better scorers,some of them better passers,some of them better rebounders..but they were at same level.Anybody who is not a stan and watch early 00's and today probably would know it.[/QUOTE]
Wow, Iverson is ludicrously overrated. He was never on Wade, Kobe or prime T-Mac level. He doesn't do a single thing better than those guys unless you bring up minor stuff like their ball handling, gambling on defense etc.

Why are you bringing up scoring titles here? Wade didn't have the green light to chuck for 10 years like Iverson did. I also love how you bold Iverson's 3P% and FT% when they barely make a difference and ignore the grand canyon size gap between their FG%. You also need to take a look at the minutes Iverson played when looking at his numbers. He was routinely one of the league leaders because he didn't like being out of the game.

Wade is a lot better to the point where it doesn't warrant a comparison.

[QUOTE=rodman91]
Wade with Lebron (at 29 years old)
25.5 ppg,6.4 rpg, 4.6 apg.
Iverson with Melo (at 32 years old)
26.4 ppg,3 rpg,7.1 apg.


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Playing with Lebron isn't the same as playing with Melo, Lebron is far more ball-dominant, which can easily explain why Wade's assists dropped from their normal 6-7 to under 5. Wade in a situation where he wasn't splitting playmaking duties with Lebron would have likely averaged more points and assists. Not to forget that they had to incorporate Bosh into their offensive scheme as well, putting up 18.7. In the season you're referring to with Iverson, the next scorer was Kenyon Martin at 12.5 ppg, and the majority of his baskets were off feeds from Iverson/Melo, and putbacks.

[QUOTE=FKAri]AI was a system player. He was also the better scorer.

Wade's game is much more versatile so he can be successful in more situations and contribute in more ways.

I'll go with Wade.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=zay_24]AI led his team to the finals, what has wade done[/QUOTE]

These dumbass ni99as.

[QUOTE=NugzHeat3]Wow, Iverson is ludicrously overrated. He was never on Wade, Kobe or prime T-Mac level. He doesn't do a single thing better than those guys unless you bring up minor stuff like their ball handling, gambling on defense etc.

Why are you bringing up scoring titles here? Wade didn't have the green light to chuck for 10 years like Iverson did. I also love how you bold Iverson's 3P% and FT% when they barely make a difference and ignore the grand canyon size gap between their FG%. You also need to take a look at the minutes Iverson played when looking at his numbers. He was routinely one of the league leaders because he didn't like being out of the game.

Wade is a lot better to the point where it doesn't warrant a comparison.[/QUOTE]

I bold wade's fg. i bold wades assist number even its only 0.1 more.

Wade had that green light for years.Shaq wasn't as profilic scorer as he was in LA years. Also until lebron and bosh unite there were some years. Also Iverson at denver used only one more shot per game.
Of course none of these ment anything when you have [B]Heat3[/B] in your nick probably.

[QUOTE=rodman91]I bold wade's fg. i bold wades assist number even its only 0.1 more.

Wade had that green light for years.Shaq wasn't as profilic scorer as he was in LA years. Also until lebron and bosh unite there were some years. Also Iverson at denver used only one more shot per game.
Of course none of these ment anything when you have [B]Heat3[/B] in your nick probably.[/QUOTE]
Wade didn't have the green light to chuck when Shaq was here. It was a much more balanced offense with Shaq getting his touches and getting the shooters involved. The only years where Wade was in a AI-like situation were 2009 and 2010. If Wade really wanted to win scoring titles, he could've easily done it. He averaged 30 ppg on 49% shooting in 2009. No season by Iverson comes close to that. He was also doing this in 38.6 mpg while Iverson would play a lot more minutes.

People here keep on harping about stats, but fail to see the intangibles AI brought. He instilled fear in all the teams he was facing, despite having a crappy supporting cast most of the time.

Yes, Wade is an HOF lock, but those who are saying "he is waaaaayyy better than AI" are retarded. It's a very close call, and you can make arguments for both players.

Can't we just agree that they are both great?

Iverson was pretty impressive for his size, so I would say maybe AI was the better pound for pound basketball player.
But Dwyane Wade is bigger, is more explosive, attacks the rim better, and is overall more efficient. Dwyane Wade can almost play a lot bigger than his size, like what he did to Kevin Garnett. Something Iverson can't do.

Efficiency wise, Wade trumps Iverson. Niether are particularly Ray Allen like shooters. But Wade is shooting nearly 50% for most of his seasons, while Iverson is shooting just a hair above 40%. The guy shooting 50% from the field is obviously better than the guy shooting 40%, unless he does something else better, for example Jason Kidd. But I wouldn't necessarily call Iverson that much better of a passer than Wade. Iverson is not a pure point.

I enjoyed watching both players, as amazing as Iverson was, I'm giving D-Wade a slight edge. Because he's bigger, more efficient overall, and is more versatile and is able to do more things. Sorry AI.:rolleyes:

[QUOTE=moe94]The only aspect Iverson even has a case for is scoring and even there he's clearly outclassed. Wade gives you 30 on close to 50% shooting while Iverson gives you 30 on 42% on a good day. How is Iverson a better scorer? I would love to see an explanation.[/QUOTE]

iverson had 5seasons over 30ppg wade hade one and hasn't been close to 30 since

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AI was a better scorer than Wade, but Wade is more under control and durable...

Wade is the better player

Wade is a bigger stronger more controlled version of what Iverson was