Who was more athletic in their primes/peak: Lebron James vs. Michael Jordan

[QUOTE=lefthook00] To be honest, MJ travelled hardcore on his first step though. :D[/QUOTE]
Off the dribble or from the triple threat? Because its damn near impossible to travel off the dribble with your first step. Out of the triple threat, they thought that intially when he came in the league, but they had the ref committee review it and determined it was completely legal.

[QUOTE=lefthook00]It would be a f*cking disaster. It would be like Marion trying to guard a stronger, slimmer, more athletic, taller, faster version of Wade that kept playing when off the ball, that would make Marion stay MORE honest because of a better jumper, and that was a goddamn energizer bunny. To be honest, MJ travelled hardcore on his first step though. :D[/QUOTE]

Marion couldn't defend almost 40 years Jordan. He would be suicidal after series against a prime Jordan.

[QUOTE=Samurai Swoosh]Off the dribble or from the triple threat? Because its damn near impossible to travel off the dribble with your first step. Out of the triple threat, they thought that intially when he came in the league, but they had the ref committee review it and determined it was completely legal.[/QUOTE]

I'm talking out of the triple threat. Obviously everyone travels a little bit on their first step out of the triple threat, or it would be a worthless move. You're allowed to simultaneously dribble while stepping, but a lot of these are blatant travels, he puts the ball down AFTER the first step pretty much when his second step is landing. :D

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qukNKGNphoQ[/url]

[QUOTE=lefthook00]I'm talking out of the triple threat. Obviously everyone travels a little bit on their first step out of the triple threat, or it would be a worthless move. You're allowed to simultaneously dribble while stepping, but a lot of these are blatant travels, he puts the ball down AFTER the first step pretty much when his second step is landing. :D

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qukNKGNphoQ[/url][/QUOTE]
Yea I see your p.o.v.

But if you push the ball out of your hand, while simeltaneously taking your step, it's legal.

[QUOTE=Indian guy]

Look up MJ and LeBron's FTA per shot. LeBron's way ahead.[/QUOTE]

This is as much a function of the no-contact perimeter rules as anything else. '85-'91 MJ would average 11+ FTA annually, possibly as many as 13, under post-2006 rules.

LeBron has the advantage, he can disappear without using any cloak or paint or something.

Watch youtube videos of 1985-1992 Jordan. You will have your answer in a hurry.

They both have their advantages.

What Jordan did possess that never went away was his body control and balance. Those are two things LeBron never really had and won't have.

[QUOTE=KenneBell]
What Jordan did possess that never went away was his body control and balance. Those are two things LeBron never really had and won't have.[/QUOTE]
Footwork as well ...

you guise must be kidding, lebron is by far a better athlete than jordan. In terms of basketball skill, there are many players better than him, his skills are slightly above average, however his athleticism is far and beyond everyone elses in the league, in an era of the best athletes. His essentially a football player playing basketball and dominating.

[QUOTE=Samurai Swoosh]Footwork as well ...[/QUOTE]
This one really makes me mad and I brought it up on another board. How can Bron be such a good dancer and have such bad footwork? It makes no damn sense.

[QUOTE=Samurai Swoosh]Yea I see your p.o.v.

But if you push the ball out of your hand, while simeltaneously taking your step, it's legal.[/QUOTE]

you mean the ball has to touch the floor first before you have a step then it is legal?

As for athleticism - I have to give lebron the edge. He might be the fastest open court player I have ever seen and at size which is bigger and stronger than almost every perimeter player in the NBA. Jordan has some great athleticism as well but I have never seen someone like Lebron but with Jordan, VC and Kobe can almost live up to that level of athleticism.

The fact that LeBron is 2 inches taller and about 60 pounds heavier and this is being asked should tell you the answer.

LeBron, but it's really, really close. His combination of size, speed, agility, quickness, and power was amazing to watch. He could bulldoze you, run by you, jump over you, and make you look foolish. A 6'8 260 pound monster... the guy was built to play basketball.

Jordan's obviously the most athletic two-guard ever and a top 3-5 athlete of all-time, but along with his cat-like quickness, freaky endurance, etc. was a guy who was so fundamentally sound he made the game look easy. It would be scary to see LeBron with Jordan-like fundamentals. The league wouldn't stand a chance.

Isn't there some kind of sheet that already tested their physical abilities yet? At LeBron right?

I think we know how fast MJ could run, how high he can jump, and how strong he is already. Someone would just have to look it up and post it.

I'm not sure if we know that about LeBron James. I think we do, but someone would have to look that up.


In terms of basketball skills, that's a bit subjective to ppl who actually watched them play.

Like footwork. MJ has better footwork than LBJ. MJ triple threat moves is better too. Body control while in the air is better too, this deals with adjusting his shots.