Excellent article: Lebron James vs Magic Johnson comparison

[QUOTE=pauk]I agree... the decision on TV (although raising money for children) shouldnt have happened imo..[/quote]

Not only that, but if you watch the videos he completely quit on the team at the end. At least try and go out with some dignity....

[QUOTE=pauk]i would like to see who is crazy enough to not agree with Lebron here actually..... who thinks that the Miami Heat will NOT win any championships....[/QUOTE] I'm sure they'll win at least one. If they don't it will be the biggest fail in the history of sports bar none.

[QUOTE=pauk]What failure was that? All they did was only being butthurt for him leaving.... thats what it all was about at the end of the day....[/QUOTE]
The fail of him thinking (regardless if he said it openly) that he was going to simply team up with Wade and Bosh and win it all.

[QUOTE=pauk]Why the **** would he leave if he WON a championship? What kindof ridicilous logic is that?[/QUOTE] This was in reference to him winning in Miami.

[QUOTE=pauk]The whole point of him leaving is that he was patient for 7 years and Dan Gilbert had his chance to build a championship team and Failed, unlike Kobe he NEVER complained about his teammates, NEVER threatened to leave or anything like that........... stop acting like he is some kindof douchebag.... he is NOT...[/QUOTE]Any lack of his complaining was negated when he up and quit in those last games in Cleveland. No one in their right mind is going to say that he did anything other that give up. That's not professionalism. It's douchebaggery.

[QUOTE=pauk]the only person you should be mad about is Dan Gilbert.... the man who showed his true colors afterwards...[/QUOTE]And what colors are these? If any Clevelander is to be mad at anyone prior to LBJ leaving, it's Danny Ferry.

[QUOTE=pauk]What poor execution? He became a free-agent after 7 years.... saw his options and decided to either:

1. Stay "loyal" & "loved" and ringless for the rest of his career.
2. Go out and immediately try win championships...[/quote]

Key word being try. We haven't seen any rings YET. It's not about his options, it's about how he left and how he quit at the end. And what becomes of it? Failure at the hands of Dirk.

[QUOTE=pauk]Phong is good at this... be so kind and trace my old posts, you will see me GUARANTEEING MIAMI HEAT WOULD NOT WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP IMMEDIATELY.............

BUT THE NEXT YEAR... (THIS YEAR)... THEY WOULD...[/QUOTE]

I never said that you were guaranteeing they would win, I said that they may not even win this season, if there even is one.

[QUOTE=pauk]that wont happen... sorry...[/QUOTE]

Hope your prepared to handle it if he fails.

[QUOTE=Phong][img]http://nsa21.casimages.com/img/2011/10/13/111013111428974196.gif[/img][/QUOTE]

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How in the world do Magic and LeBron play a like? This is getting ridiculous. If there is any all-time great that LeBron actually does resemble it is Oscar Robertson.

People REALLY overrate LeBron's passing and the ability to create for others. He is not on the level of Magic Johnson. He is more like on the level of Tracy McGrady. And honestly, I don't even think LeBron is a better scorer than Magic. Yeah I know Lebron averages and scores more ppg, but I also know that Magic (and Bird) could have scored a lot more if they wanted to.

Good read, but to be fair these players had two very different engagements from a team standpoint. Lebron was not divined with a team, teammates and franchise of that significance, its only now that Lebron has somewhat tasted what Magic had almost his entire career. Its only after a couple of years we can start truly evaluating the context of Lebron's greatness in contrast of Magic.

He has set himself up for a potential fantastic future in Miami and isnt he only 26? Lebron will be fine, that is unless the NBA lockout has something else to say. :)

Magic was the original Lebron - jumping on a star player's bandwagon (in his case, it's even more extreme - he joined a real GOAT candidate's team). He was the original *****.

[QUOTE=the_wise_one]Magic was the original Lebron - jumping on a star player's bandwagon (in his case, it's even more extreme - he joined a real GOAT candidate's team). He was the original *****.[/QUOTE]

he was drafted

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]he was drafted[/QUOTE]
He is referring to the part about how Magic would have continued playing at MSU had the Bulls or another weak team drafted him. People need to credit Magic for being able to play and fit in with those guys. There is nothing more underrated than to be able to fit in and to sacrifice your stats for the good of the team.

Don't understand the comparison. Lebron sucks and Magic is a legend.:confusedshrug:

[QUOTE=DaPerceive]How in the world do Magic and LeBron play a like? This is getting ridiculous. If there is any all-time great that LeBron actually does resemble it is Oscar Robertson.

People REALLY overrate LeBron's passing and the ability to create for others. He is not on the level of Magic Johnson. He is more like on the level of Tracy McGrady. And honestly, I don't even think LeBron is a better scorer than Magic. Yeah I know Lebron averages and scores more ppg, but I also know that Magic (and Bird) could have scored a lot more if they wanted to.[/QUOTE]

Have you seen Oscar Robertson play? Similar statistical numbers to some degree i guess, but thats about it, they had very different gamestyles, especially when you talk about size. Tyreke Evans, Dwyane Wade and John Wall are the type of players that should resemble Oscar Robertson more in at that specific size.

Lebron & Magic on the other hand resemble extremly much, they play different in the sense of Magic being more passing minded and Lebron being more scoring minded, but Lebron is truly reminiscent of Magic. Both were point-forwards and the best ever at it. Try watch any game by Magic during the 1980-83 seasons when Norm Nixon was the starting PG, Magic played SF/SG and was more of a point-forward, Magic's "point-forward" role in 1980-83 is identical to Lebron's today.

The motive to the resemblance is very simple i think, i am gona be a bit more thorough:

1. At Lebrons massive size nobody in NBA history had better point guard skills, namely ballhandling, passing ability and court vision except for Magic Johnson. This does not mean that Lebron was at that level in terms of point guard skills, but that he is at that size the next closest we ever had to Magic in terms of point guard skills, at that size, remember the key word here is "size". Lebron's point guard skills are fantastic compared to any point guard today, he has proved it over and over, i certainly even remember him averaging a triple double in a span of 12 games when Mo Williams was injured as he officially started point guard, averaging over 12 assists a game and they won all those games. Great point guard skills and the next best point guard skills at that size in contrast of Magic, but still far considering Magic did not only possess the best point guard skills at that size, but the best of anybody in NBA history.

2. As far as i remember Lebron was the 2nd 6'8"+ player in NBA history to be drafted PG, the 1st one was guess who?

3. Last but not least, versatility in terms of position. Lebron & Magic are the only players in NBA history who actually started 4 and arguably 5 positions during their career. Not only did they start-play them, but they could have dominated any of those positions. Nobody was ever that versatile position wise as Lebron & Magic, unless you can think of somebody else?
This versatility is ofcourse the result of having those point guard skills at that big size, the size allows for them to play the forward positions and the ballhandling, passing, court vision, scoring allows them to play the guard positions.

They are not clones, but yes, the similarity is most definitely there. The similarity would have been even greater if Lebron actually decided to officially start point guard for the rest of his career and he can do it believe you me! How many 6'8"+ point guards was there anyways? Only one.

Magic thrived undef pressure while Lebron choked everytime.

Lebron is the better version of Dominique Wilkins.

[QUOTE=sh0wtime]Have you seen Oscar Robertson play? Similar statistical numbers to some degree i guess, but thats about it, they had very different gamestyles, especially when you talk about size. Tyreke Evans, Dwyane Wade and John Wall are the type of players that should resemble Oscar Robertson more in at that specific size.

Lebron & Magic on the other hand resemble extremly much, they play different in the sense of Magic being more passing minded and Lebron being more scoring minded, but Lebron is truly reminiscent of Magic. Both were point-forwards and the best ever at it. Try watch any game by Magic during the 1980-83 seasons when Norm Nixon was the starting PG, Magic played SF/SG and was more of a point-forward, Magic's "point-forward" role in 1980-83 is identical to Lebron's today.

The motive to the resemblance is very simple i think, i am gona be a bit more thorough:

1. At Lebrons massive size nobody in NBA history had better point guard skills, namely ballhandling, passing ability and court vision except for Magic Johnson. This does not mean that Lebron was at that level in terms of point guard skills, but that he is at that size the next closest we ever had to Magic in terms of point guard skills, at that size, remember the key word here is "size". Lebron's point guard skills are fantastic compared to any point guard today, he has proved it over and over, i certainly even remember him averaging a triple double in a span of 12 games when Mo Williams was injured as he officially started point guard, averaging over 12 assists a game and they won all those games. Great point guard skills and the next best point guard skills at that size in contrast of Magic, but still far considering Magic did not only possess the best point guard skills at that size, but the best of anybody in NBA history.

2. As far as i remember Lebron was the 2nd 6'8"+ player in NBA history to be drafted PG, the 1st one was guess who?

3. Last but not least, versatility in terms of position. Lebron & Magic are the only players in NBA history who actually started 4 and arguably 5 positions during their career. Not only did they start-play them, but they could have dominated any of those positions. Nobody was ever that versatile position wise as Lebron & Magic, unless you can think of somebody else?
This versatility is ofcourse the result of having those point guard skills at that big size, the size allows for them to play the forward positions and the ballhandling, passing, court vision, scoring allows them to play the guard positions.

They are not clones, but yes, the similarity is most definitely there. The similarity would have been even greater if Lebron actually decided to officially start point guard for the rest of his career and he can do it believe you me! How many 6'8"+ point guards was there anyways? Only one.[/QUOTE]
Yeah.... you either didn't watch one or the other play or you didn't watch either one of them play. .

[QUOTE=DaPerceive]Yeah.... you either didn't watch one or the other play or you didn't watch either one of them play. .[/QUOTE]

I have 500+ VHS-DVD Laker games that say i did watch at least one game by Magic. :) I am not genuinely sure if you did read everything i said above though, because i just cant apprehend what you could possibly disharmonize with and you did not really give me any indication to what you disharmonize with either with that post.

[QUOTE=sh0wtime]I have 500+ VHS-DVD Laker games that say i did watch at least one game by Magic. :) I am not genuinely sure if you did read everything i said above though, because i just cant apprehend what you could possibly disharmonize with and you did not really give me any indication to what you disharmonize with either with that post.[/QUOTE]
Maybe you should start paying attention when watching those Lakers games. Magic and LeBron have nothing in common other than their size. If somebody has to explain it to you how LeBron and Magic aren't alike then I don't know what to say. LeBron resembles The Big O, not Magic.

bumping a Pauk thread so he can get negged easier.

[QUOTE=L8kersfan222]bumping a Pauk thread so he can get negged easier.[/QUOTE]

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i would rep, but i ran out