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[QUOTE=asdf1990]yeah I would take melo, ancient kobe and dwight over lebron to win a ring.
/sarcasm[/QUOTE]
for a finals series only, based on what we have seen from bron...... he can easily be taken outside of t5 maybe barely in t10 even.
just for finals , thats justifiable.
[QUOTE=RazorBaLade]for a finals series only, based on what we have seen from bron...... he can easily be taken outside of t5 maybe barely in t10 even.
just for finals , thats justifiable.[/QUOTE]
and how do u know how carmelo would perform in the finals when he has never been there or ever been close to be there?
he has managed to escape first round only once in his 8 years... the rest of those 7 years he got swept almost all the time in the first round....
im sick and tired of how you people act like Final Playoff series is completely different from any Playoff series.... like Finals is some raw, magical, superhuman "BIG STAGE" which makes THE BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD crumble in a corner and start crying like a girl......... just because it is... THE FINALS *in a very scary voice*...
[B]Why only FINALS? Are you telling me Lebron would have played AMAZING and would have WON if he met the MAVS in the 1st round instead? He played so great all of the sudden just because it wasnt THE ALMIGHTY SUPER SCARY FINALS? Do you see your crazy logic?[/B]
Lebron was simply out of scoring rythm at a horrible time, its as simple as that... that in a combination with a Team Defense which played him correctly and Facilitating made him play like he played.... really.... 18 PPG is POSSIBLE for Lebron in 3-6 games.... BELIEVE IT OR NOT.......... especially in a team where he has to share the ball with 2 super scorers........
IF THAT SERIES WAS REPLAYED.... RIGHT NOW.... BELIEVE YOU ME... AFTER ALL THIS CRITICISM..... LEBRON WOULD GO NUTS...... EVEN IF HE STILL WOULD BE OUT OF SCORING RYTHM.... HE WOULD BE SELFISH AND KEEP SHOTJACKING A LA KOBE.......... JUST TO MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY..... SO THEY DONT GO "HE DIDNT TRY"....
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IF THAT SERIES WAS REPLAYED.... RIGHT NOW.... BELIEVE YOU ME... AFTER ALL THIS CRITICISM..... LEBRON WOULD GO NUTS...... EVEN IF HE STILL WOULD BE OUT OF SCORING RYTHM.... HE WOULD BE SELFISH AND KEEP SHOTJACKING A LA KOBE.......... JUST TO MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY..... SO THEY DONT GO "HE DIDNT TRY"....[/QUOTE]
:oldlol: right just like Ortiz would beat Mayweather if he gets his rematch :oldlol:
[QUOTE=pauk]
[B]Why only FINALS? Are you telling me Lebron would have played AMAZING and would have WON if he met the MAVS in the 1st round instead? He played so great all of the sudden just because it wasnt THE ALMIGHTY SUPER SCARY FINALS? Do you see your crazy logic?[/B]
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You're right. He's done it in the ECSF too :roll:
Dude Lebron just had the worst series of his career. A career of 17 playoff series. You really think it has nothing to do with it being in the Finals against tougher competition?
[QUOTE=pauk]and how do u know how carmelo would perform in the finals when he has never been there or ever been close to be there?
he has managed to escape first round only once in his 8 years... the rest of those 7 years he got swept almost all the time in the first round....
im sick and tired of how you people act like Final Playoff series is completely different from any Playoff series.... like Finals is some raw, magical, superhuman "BIG STAGE" which makes THE BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD crumble in a corner and start crying like a girl......... just because it is... THE FINALS *in a very scary voice*...
[B]Why only FINALS? Are you telling me Lebron would have played AMAZING and would have WON if he met the MAVS in the 1st round instead? He played so great all of the sudden just because it wasnt THE ALMIGHTY SUPER SCARY FINALS? Do you see your crazy logic?[/B]
Lebron was simply out of scoring rythm at a horrible time, its as simple as that... that in a combination with a Team Defense which played him correctly and Facilitating made him play like he played.... really.... 18 PPG is POSSIBLE for Lebron in 3-6 games.... BELIEVE IT OR NOT.......... especially in a team where he has to share the ball with 2 super scorers........
IF THAT SERIES WAS REPLAYED.... RIGHT NOW.... BELIEVE YOU ME... AFTER ALL THIS CRITICISM..... LEBRON WOULD GO NUTS...... EVEN IF HE STILL WOULD BE OUT OF SCORING RYTHM.... HE WOULD BE SELFISH AND KEEP SHOTJACKING A LA KOBE.......... JUST TO MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY..... SO THEY DONT GO "HE DIDNT TRY"....[/QUOTE]
i dont really care what your paragraphs say, you are a lebron rider and youre gonna justify anything he does.
im just saying that for the rest of us, its merely justifiable to assume that there are 6-8 players in the NBA who won't average 18 pts in a finals series.
I have only skimmed this thread so maybe it was mentioned but I can tell you the only reason Durant made Skip's list is b/c he is an admitted OKC homer. He lives in that city IIRC.
So some of you gonna say that Lebron isnt the top5 best player right now ? WOW just WOW!
People hate so much it makes them stupid!
Skip and Steven A are real life trolls. Period. No one in their right mind thinks LeBron is NOT in the top 5. Even people who hate the guy couldn't say that with a straight face. It's ridiculous.
LeBron not top 5. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
[QUOTE=RazorBaLade]i dont really care what your paragraphs say, you are a lebron rider and youre gonna justify anything he does.
im just saying that for the rest of us, its merely justifiable to assume that there are 6-8 players in the NBA who won't average 18 pts in a finals series.[/QUOTE]
ofcourse you dont.... despite everything i said being the truth... mostly you dont listen because you know im right... and because you are a Lebron hater....
i dont justifty ANYTHING of lebron... he blowed in the Finals.... its not about justifying....
its about being REALISTIC...............
its about proving your STUPID LOGIC....
my point is that it simply being the "FINALS" has nothing to do with it like you suggest.......... ITS THE MAVS that made him play like he played....... just like how the MAVS made Kobe played........... THE BETTER TEAM WON... WHETHER IT WAS THE FINALS OR PRE-SEASON....
whether he would have faced them in the 1st round or in the Finals.... the outcome would have been the same............ not if the series was replayed but whatever....
my point is to show how stupid your logic is.......... you are sitting here and acting like Lebron would play like that against ANYBODY in the Finals....... just because..... IT IS THE FINALS *extremly scary voice*.....
if even the Cavs would play him in the FINALS.... he would be the same... just because IT IS THE FINALS *in super scary voice*.......... that is your logic...
:rolleyes:
FOR EXAMPLE.... I HATE KOBE.......... BUT I WOULD NEVER EVER CALL HIM A CHOKER OR HAVING NO HEART OR SOME BULLSHIT LIKE THAT....... BECAUSE HE HAS PROVED HE HAS THIS OVER AND OVER.......... JUST LIKE LEBRON HAS DONE.......
STOP WITH THAT BS.... THERE IS NO SUCH THING AMONGST THESE PLAYERS......... ITS AS SIMPLE AS KOBE & LEBRON SIMPLY HAVE AN OFF NIGHT.... MISS A SHOT... FACING A BETTER TEAM WHICH WINS...... AND SO ON.......
ITS REALLY THAT SIMPLE................................. THIS IS PROFESSIONAL MENS BASKETBALL........ THE BEST PLAYERS IN THE WORLD........... NOT YOUR LOCAL GIRLS HIGH SCHOOL TEAM..........
[QUOTE=pauk]ofcourse you dont.... despite everything i said being the truth... mostly you dont listen because you know im right... and because you are a Lebron hater....
i dont justifty ANYTHING of lebron... he blowed in the Finals.... its not about justifying....
its about being REALISTIC...............
its about proving your STUPID LOGIC....
my point is that it simply being the "FINALS" has nothing to do with it like you suggest.......... ITS THE MAVS that made him play like he played....... just like how the MAVS made Kobe played........... THE BETTER TEAM WON... WHETHER IT WAS THE FINALS OR PRE-SEASON....
whether he would have faced them in the 1st round or in the Finals.... the outcome would have been the same............ not if the series was replayed but whatever....
my point is to show how stupid your logic is.......... you are sitting here and acting like Lebron would play like that against ANYBODY in the Finals....... just because..... IT IS THE FINALS *extremly scary voice*.....
if even the Cavs would play him in the FINALS.... he would be the same... just because IT IS THE FINALS *in super scary voice*.......... that is your logic...
:rolleyes:
FOR EXAMPLE.... I HATE KOBE.......... BUT I WOULD [B]NEVER EVER CALL HIM A CHOKER OR HAVING NO HEART OR SOME BULLSHIT LIKE THAT....... BECAUSE HE HAS PROVED HE HAS THIS OVER AND OVER.......... JUST LIKE LEBRON HAS DONE....... [/B]STOP WITH THAT BS.... THERE IS NO SUCH THING AMONGST THESE PLAYERS......... ITS AS SIMPLE AS KOBE & LEBRON SIMPLY HAVE AN OFF NIGHT.... MISS A SHOT... FACING A BETTER TEAM WHICH WINS...... AND SO ON.......
ITS REALLY THAT SIMPLE................................. THIS IS PROFESSIONAL MENS BASKETBALL........ THE BEST PLAYERS IN THE WORLD........... NOT YOUR LOCAL GIRLS HIGH SCHOOL TEAM..........[/QUOTE]
:rolleyes: When has Lebron proved that he's not a choker? serious
question, dude averaged 18 ppg in the finals, thats 9 fewer points than he
averaged in the regualr season which is the largest drop off in NBA history [url]http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=626493[/url].
Lebron's a great player, but in no way is he as good as you make him out
to be, you can't be the 3rd leading scorer on your team in the Finals, lose
the series in 6 games and still be considered the best player in the leauge.
wth
[QUOTE=RazorBaLade]i dont really care what your paragraphs say, you are a lebron rider and youre gonna justify anything he does.
im just saying that for the rest of us, its merely justifiable to assume that there are 6-8 players in the NBA who won't average 18 pts in a finals series.[/QUOTE]
Really what about the whole process before the finals, the season isn't just 4-7 games. melo has never been there, kobe isn't gonna get there anymore, dwight got there once and lost to the hawks in the first round this year. Wade wouldn't have gotten to the finals had lebron not carried him in the ECF.
U can't just say I can think of 8 players who could average more than 18pts in the finals when 6 of those players didn't even make the finals to begin with this past season.
Lebron is, was and will be the best player whenever the next season starts.
[QUOTE=TheMarkMadsen]:rolleyes: When has Lebron proved that he's not a choker? serious
question, dude averaged 18 ppg in the finals, thats 9 fewer points than he
averaged in the regualr season which is the largest drop off in NBA history [url]http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=626493[/url].
Lebron's a great player, but in no way is he as good as you make him out
to be, you can't be the 3rd leading scorer on your team in the Finals, lose
the series in 6 games and still be considered the best player in the leauge.[/QUOTE]
Wade was the third leading scorer on the team in the ECF but I guess that doesn't matter right? wade is still the best player in the league correct?