Re: kobe comments on his game last night
[QUOTE=RazorBaLade]the actual quote is no Kobe can make shots. That's what he's done his whole career,'
which is true. so...[/QUOTE]
Kobe can make shots.. but when Bynum is shooting 65% from the field you feed him the ball. Kobe should never have to take more than 18 shots on this team if Bynum and Gasol are healthy.
LA is twice as good a team with Kobe averaging 22/8/5 rather than 26/4/5. Not only will he be more efficient, but he'll be using his teammates more who are already more efficient than he is. Thats game over for whoever theyre playing with how the D is looking.
Re: kobe comments on his game last night
[QUOTE=FourthTenor]Heh, my days of the internet back-and-forth insultfests are over. I've got actual productive and enjoyable things goin on now and I've outgrown it anyway. When I'm here now it's to talk ball cause that's one of my hobbies and that's it. Too old to waste my time like dat, clowning on strangers on the internet and getting in meaningless arguments. I mean.... no offense if that's your thing and all.
Stalk me with all your thousands of gimmicks if ya want, it doesn't actually bother me in the least. It'll actually gimme some lulz from time to time to think that I've moved way on to bigger and better things and you're still.... doin you :lol[/QUOTE]
I'll take that as a yes :roll: :roll: :roll:
Re: kobe comments on his game last night
[QUOTE=jstern]The only thing I have against this is that Kobe was playing great this season, and now he's blaming the wrist. It totally goes against the typical legend mentality of not using injuries as an excuse, even hiding them from the team. That's kind of low character. He was playing great, has a couple of bad games and now blames the wrist.[/QUOTE]
don't think he's using it as an excuse... he gets mobbed with dozens of questions about it every single day and always deflects them. on occasion a reporter will word the question in a way that forces kobe to acknowledge the injury and thats when you get the "its a pain in the ass" quotes.
Re: kobe comments on his game last night
hurt or not, kobe is going to shoot somewhere around 45% from the field. he's done it for 15 years now.
he could be 100% and he'd still shoot 45%....he's done it his entire career. so any talk of being hurt is kind of pointless. he manages to play through them very well. he also doesn't have an extra gear either. he's basically the same player healthy or hurt.
and kobe is hurt...not injured. injured means you just can't play.....like manu tonight breaking his hand. that is an injury.
Re: kobe comments on his game last night
[QUOTE=RazorBaLade]exactly what me and some others said last night. if u have 40 good looks u take those shots. if bynum has 40 good looks ill be pissed if he passed them up too. kobe wont miss this badly every game lol[/QUOTE]
good looks? Almost all of his shots in the second half were forced. A ton of them he just dribbled the ball up court and chucked from deep without anyone else touching the ball. How are those good looks? He could have atleast tried to fake a pass to make it seem like he thought about it. It would've given his teammates hope....
Re: kobe comments on his game last night
[QUOTE=tpols]Kobe can make shots.. but when Bynum is shooting 65% from the field you feed him the ball. Kobe should never have to take more than 18 shots on this team if Bynum and Gasol are healthy.
LA is twice as good a team with Kobe averaging 22/8/5 rather than 26/4/5. Not only will he be more efficient, but he'll be using his teammates more who are already more efficient than he is. Thats game over for whoever theyre playing with how the D is looking.[/QUOTE]
Just tell me this, if last night when kobe was 3/17 he stopped shooting and fed bynum and pau, and they didnt ended up getting double teamed and just in general they didnt continue to shoot amazing and lost the game, what would the criticism be for Kobe? What if kobe doesnt shoot for the last 6 min and they lose? He gets off scott free?
I don't know how legit your actual example is, it assumes that Kobe is the one who decides how many assists he has when the team can very well be missing. If 26/4 vs 22/8 means that kobe passes up 4 of his shots that he shoots at 45% and gives them to Bynum who shoots 60% and he makes them at 100% then its a bit of a stretch and odd reasoning.
I think kobe should pass more.... but I'll point to a billion other kobe games to tell you why before I point to last game. He had good open shots that he would knock down all day any other night. I don't point to a game where Bynum was in foul trouble playing 10 less min than kobe and gasol and where he himself says after the game he was winded in the 4th and couldn't get his position as a sign that Bynum should have more shots. Theres so many better examples. Last game was just kobe missing good shots..maybe forced a few but again it was easily a 15/28 night instead of 6/28
Re: kobe comments on his game last night
[QUOTE=shadow]good looks? Almost all of his shots in the second half were forced. A ton of them he just dribbled the ball up court and chucked from deep without anyone else touching the ball. How are those good looks? He could have atleast tried to fake a pass to make it seem like he thought about it. It would've given his teammates hope....[/QUOTE]
Well he tied for the most assists on his team...... and very few people here actually think even 10% of his shots were bad... Don't know what to say. What you described is not what I saw ignoring maybe 2-4 plays. I just saw a guy who kept taking what the defense gave him and building a 2 story brick house with a balcony and a waterfall off makeable kobe looks.
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[QUOTE=Xyph]I'll take that as a yes :roll: :roll: :roll:[/QUOTE]
Not gay (sorry) but I am definitely gaining some momentum in my showbiz endeavors and its no longer worth risking a reputation and frankly wasting my time exchanging insults with a few internet losers. Not that it cant be fun when youre young and have idle time, but when career and finances excelerate, u can find better things to do.
Thats the last of my attention youll be gettin. Savor it. :pimp:
Re: kobe comments on his game last night
[QUOTE=RazorBaLade]Just tell me this, if last night when kobe was 3/17 he stopped shooting and fed bynum and pau, and they didnt ended up getting double teamed and just in general they didnt continue to shoot amazing and lost the game, what would the criticism be for Kobe? What if kobe doesnt shoot for the last 6 min and they lose? He gets off scott free?
I don't know how legit your actual example is, it assumes that Kobe is the one who decides how many assists he has when the team can very well be missing. If 26/4 vs 22/8 means that kobe passes up 4 of his shots that he shoots at 45% and gives them to Bynum who shoots 60% and he makes them at 100% then its a bit of a stretch and odd reasoning.
I think kobe should pass more.... but I'll point to a billion other kobe games to tell you why before I point to last game. He had good open shots that he would knock down all day any other night. I don't point to a game where Bynum was in foul trouble playing 10 less min than kobe and gasol and where he himself says after the game he was winded in the 4th and couldn't get his position as a sign that Bynum should have more shots. Theres so many better examples. Last game was just kobe missing good shots..maybe forced a few but again it was easily a 15/28 night instead of 6/28[/QUOTE]
Who cares about the stupid criticism....it would still have been the right way to play....
Its just balance. 28 shots is just about 6 too many for that game. And it could have been the difference.
Re: kobe comments on his game last night
[QUOTE=DMAVS41]Who cares about the stupid criticism....it would still have been the right way to play....
Its just balance. 28 shots is just about 6 too many for that game. And it could have been the difference.[/QUOTE]
because if he hadnt shot in the last 4 min and passed to them and they missed too and he finished with his 4/22 game or whatever then people, maybe even you as well, would be here saying kobe cannot be chickening out in the clutch and asking his worse teammates to bail him out etc etc. Theres no right move when you shoot 10% and lose, no matter what the situation is. And yes MAYBE they would have won but theres no guarantee ..
Re: kobe comments on his game last night
[QUOTE=DMAVS41]hurt or not, kobe is going to shoot somewhere around 45% from the field. he's done it for 15 years now.
he could be 100% and he'd still shoot 45%....he's done it his entire career. so any talk of being hurt is kind of pointless. he manages to play through them very well. he also doesn't have an extra gear either. he's basically the same player healthy or hurt.
and kobe is hurt...not injured. injured means you just can't play.....like manu tonight breaking his hand. that is an injury.[/QUOTE]
agree with the post, but you're really nitpicking there at the end. some players would opt to not play and undergo surgery to repair this injury.
Re: kobe comments on his game last night
[QUOTE=RazorBaLade]Just tell me this, if last night when kobe was 3/17 he stopped shooting and fed bynum and pau, and they didnt ended up getting double teamed and just in general they didnt continue to shoot amazing and lost the game, what would the criticism be for Kobe? What if kobe doesnt shoot for the last 6 min and they lose? He gets off scott free?
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He should have never been 3/17 to begin with man.. Thats already terrible. I watch nearly every Laker game and I know as much as anyone else how bad LA's perimeter crew can be at creating shots. And I realize Bynum and Gasol cant be worked through every single possesion. But Kobe will flat out wave off the whole team to take an iso long jumper time after time. Why doesnt anyone tell him thats a terrible shot? Sure he can make it.. and it looks great when he does, but he could just as easily post up and take a midrange jumper, or pass it to Gasol or Bynum for a closer shot.
I didn't watch the second Denver game, but I watched the first and Kobe just settles for too many long jumpers.. and he's been terrible at them so far this year. I understand the bailout shots.. but the long 3s out of nowhere are totally unnecessary. They're just stupid shots and hes been taking a lot of them so far.
Re: kobe comments on his game last night
[QUOTE=RazorBaLade]because if he hadnt shot in the last 4 min and passed to them and they missed too and he finished with his 4/22 game or whatever then people, maybe even you as well, would be here saying kobe cannot be chickening out in the clutch and asking his worse teammates to bail him out etc etc. Theres no right move when you shoot 10% and lose, no matter what the situation is. And yes MAYBE they would have won but theres no guarantee ..[/QUOTE]
look. you kobe fans act like basketball is impossible to be played well. its not. each game is different.
how could anyone with a brain get mad at kobe for feeding gasol and bynum yesterday all game? the nuggets don't have an answer for them.
kobe fans and kobe himself are way too ****ing worried about what people are going to say. who the **** cares? just play the damn game of basketball and not worry about that shit.
so sick of the so called "statement games" from a guy that has been in the league 16 years now.
Re: kobe comments on his game last night
[QUOTE=RazorBaLade]because if he hadnt shot in the last 4 min and passed to them and they missed too and he finished with his 4/22 game or whatever then people, maybe even you as well, would be here saying kobe cannot be chickening out in the clutch and asking his worse teammates to bail him out etc etc. Theres no right move when you shoot 10% and lose, no matter what the situation is. And yes MAYBE they would have won but theres no guarantee ..[/QUOTE]
he would get bashed more if he would of minimized his shooting and lost. its happened before.
Re: kobe comments on his game last night
[QUOTE=FourthTenor]Not gay (sorry) but I am definitely gaining some momentum in my showbiz endeavors and its no longer worth risking a reputation and frankly wasting my time exchanging insults with a few internet losers. Not that it cant be fun when youre young and have [B][U]idol[/U][/B] time, but when career and finances excelerate, [B][U]u[/U][/B] can find better things to do.
Thats the last of my attention youll be gettin. Savor it. :pimp:[/QUOTE]
Dude, stop embarrassing yourself with your pathetic lies. if you were that great of an actor, you wouldn't have the time to be on here with your equally pathetic Kobe's faking the wrist injury tripe. Plus if ANY of that were even true, you would've already learned how to spell Y-O-U instead of U and also would've learned how to spell IDLE instead of IDOL.:facepalm