Dont read too much into it....
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Dont read too much into it....
in a weird way, this is a statement game from carmelo . . .
[QUOTE=knickswin]in a weird way, this is a statement game from carmelo . . .[/QUOTE]
A statement that he doesn't deserve his title of best scorer in the NBA. A very undeserved title for Anthony.
I'd rather have a player shoot 0-7 than 5-20...
[QUOTE=Rowe][IMG]http://i56.tinypic.com/2n8mno5.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]
I always thought that guy looked like Bill Duke.
No need to trade Melo.
He's been playing injured for the last 5-6 games. In a normal situation he would sit down but the Knicks are in a crisis (D'Antoni's words) so he plays.
Just look at the start of the season before he had an injury,he had like 29 points per game on 46% shooting.
We don't need to trade him for an elite point guard.
Last season showed that Amare can be a beast even with a good point guard.
Raymond Felton was good,not even great because he couldn't have played pick and roll properly.
We'll have a MLE next summer,sign a solid pass-first point guard (preferably Nash) and keep Melo.
Nash
Fields or Shumpert
Melo
Amare
Tyson
Melo didn't shoot well last night but he didn't hurt the team with it.
He was moving the ball,finding the open man and was very active on the boards (11 rebounds).
Talent like Melo is exceptionally rare to find so we should be lucky to have him on our team,especially if he plays within the system and accept lower scoring numbers if that means the Knicks will win.
[QUOTE=Clutch]No need to trade Melo.
He's been playing injured for the last 5-6 games. In a normal situation he would sit down but the Knicks are in a crisis (D'Antoni's words) so he plays.
We don't need to trade him for an elite point guard.
Last season showed that Amare can be a beast even with a good point guard.
Raymond Felton was good,not even great because he couldn't have played pick and roll properly.
We'll have a MLE next summer,sign a solid pass-first point guard (preferably Nash) and keep Melo.
Nash
Fields or Shumpert
Melo
Amare
Tyson
Melo didn't shoot well last night but he didn't hurt the team with it.
He was moving the ball,finding the open man and was very active on the boards (11 rebounds).
Talent like Melo is exceptionally rare to find so we should be lucky to have him on our team,especially if he plays within the system and accept lower scoring numbers if that means the Knicks will win.[/QUOTE]
Anthony and Stoudemire are too one dimensional for this team to go anywhere in the long run.
[QUOTE=AngelEyes]Anthony and Stoudemire are too one dimensional for this team to go anywhere in the long run.[/QUOTE]
I disagree.
Melo is a great rebounder for a small forward. He's also a solid defender.
Not to mention his versatile offensive game.
He's a capable passer as well so if he somehow learns to play within the system he's a complete player.
Amare already knows how to play within a system if he has a good point guard,he just needs to improve his defense.
Good point guard would certainly help a lot and I'm sure they will add one in the off-season.
Knicks can be great with their core of Melo/Amare/Tyson but everyone needs to make adjustments.
Something like the Celtics Big 3 did. They don't care about their numbers,everyone have his role and they can live with scoring 0 points as long as that means their team will win.
[QUOTE=Clutch]I disagree.
Melo is a great rebounder for a small forward. He's also a solid defender.
Not to mention his versatile offensive game.
He's a capable passer as well so if he somehow learns to play within the system he's a complete player.
Amare already knows how to play within a system if he has a good point guard,he just needs to improve his defense.
Good point guard would certainly help a lot and I'm sure they will add one in the off-season.
Knicks can be great with their core of Melo/Amare/Tyson but everyone needs to make adjustments.
Something like the Celtics Big 3 did. They don't care about their numbers,everyone have his role and they can live with scoring 0 points as long as that means their team will win.[/QUOTE]
You're being way too kind. Anthony is far from a great rebounder. He's a foward, a 6'8" foward at that with very good athleticism. 7 rebounds a game is not great, especially for a guy who's playing 35 minutes a game. He's an indifferent defender, the same as Stoudemire. He could be elite, but he doesn't give the game to game effort. That's always been the case with him. He's a decent passer at best. Definitely nothing special.
So Melo CAN make his teammates better, by playing bad himself!
HA, in your face haters!
[QUOTE=RRR3]Amare>Melo[/QUOTE]
you need to be educated, Carmelo is in a completely different class than Amar'e. Really. It is not even close.
Amar'e cannot even create for himself. That's what you have to understand. You can't put Amar'e on the floor without either another good player (either a post player or a penetrator) or a point guard capable of playing pick and roll with him decently. He'll give you absolutely nothing. The defense will just stay planted to his teammates and let him play his stupid face-up game that inevitably ends up with him either dribbling the ball off of someone else's foot or getting blocked at the rim. He really should have developed a post game at some point. He is too strong and quick not to have.
This is why I have a problem with Amar'e getting paid like he is. He's going to need his teammates to work to get him involved in the offense. I mean, Carmelo definitely should work to get him involved in the offense because that is what is best for this team, but real stars can create for themselves and therefore create for others.
And then of course everything else about his game is bad to average. Horrible defender, below average rebounder, and kind of a low IQ player.
The problem with the Knicks is they have 2 very good players with monstrous egos, neither of which are first options on a championship contending team. Whats worse is that they don't play off each other at all. This team would be better by getting rid of one of them and adding a pure point since they already have Chandler at Center.
also, this has nothing to do with Pringles. I hate it when idiots blame the coach when the star players play like shit/play like retards.
They won so it isn't a problem.
[QUOTE=brisbaneman]The problem with the Knicks is they have 2 very good players with monstrous egos, neither of which are first options on a championship contending team. Whats worse is that they don't play off each other at all. This team would be better by getting rid of one of them and adding a pure point since they already have Chandler at Center.
also, this has nothing to do with Pringles. I hate it when idiots blame the coach when the star players play like shit/play like retards.[/QUOTE]
It may have nothing to do with Pringles, but he should have been put out to pasture a long time ago. He's a terrible coach with a garbage system with two one dimensional stars.
[QUOTE=AngelEyes]It may have nothing to do with Pringles, but he should have been put out to pasture a long time ago. He's a terrible coach with a garbage system with two one dimensional stars.[/QUOTE]
Terrible coach who made it to the WCF 3 times...how many other coaches have done it? Coaches are overrated and everyone knows it's on the players. He's under pressure because those two stars have monstrous egos and are not willing to compromise/improve their games. And on top of it he's in the shittiest market. I do not see how it's his fault