Re: Wade is holding Lebron back...
Yea i know that EnoughSaid....
What is my problem then?
My problem is that i miss the Cleveland Lebron....
i miss watching him score 30 points in the 4th quarter......
i miss him dropping 40-50 point triple doubles over and over........
i miss him scoring 16 points in 2 minutes.....
i miss him averaging up to 31-8-9........
i miss him going for career highs.....
i miss amazing individual performances........
Lebron is BOTTLENECKED in Miami........... people almost forget how truly good he is......... but on the other hand, he did it in order to win a championship..... so ok....
Re: Wade is holding Lebron back...
u rather have Wade or Mo Williams Pauk?:biggums:
Re: Wade is holding Lebron back...
Unfortunately for pauk, LeBron's individual greatness wasn't enough to win a championship in 7 years with the Cavs.
Wade's on the other hand...was enough. That's why he's wearing that ring.
Re: Wade is holding Lebron back...
[QUOTE=Bigsmoke]u rather have Wade or Mo Williams Pauk?:biggums:[/QUOTE]
Wade...
Not sure what your point is? Did you read what i said?
I think i made it quite clear that Miami Heat are better with Wade in there..... i am just saying that they are holding eachother back in terms of individual performances.... doh....
Re: Wade is holding Lebron back...
[QUOTE=EnoughSaid]So now when LeBron plays bad, your guys' excuse is going to be that Wade held him back. Come on man.[B] This clearly shows you guys are not Heat fans, but are just LeBron dick riders.[/B] And I like LeBron too. My 2nd favorite player. But honestly, you guys need to relax.[/QUOTE]
:kobe: Duh, lol.
Re: Wade is holding Lebron back...
[QUOTE=pauk]Yea i know that EnoughSaid....
What is my problem then?
My problem is that i miss the Cleveland Lebron....
i miss watching him score 30 points in the 4th quarter......
i miss him dropping 40-50 point triple doubles over and over........
i miss him scoring 16 points in 2 minutes.....
i miss him averaging up to 31-8-9........
i miss him going for career highs.....
i miss amazing individual performances........
Lebron is BOTTLENECKED in Miami........... people almost forget how truly good he is......... but on the other hand, he did it in order to win a championship..... so ok....[/QUOTE]
LeBron has nothing left to prove in terms of stats. He's won 2 MVP's, scoring title, has had tons of triple-doubles, etc. Dude is a stat machine. But what's holding him back? Yep. Dude never had a legit chance of winning the title. Last year was his first real opportunity, and he stunk it up in the Finals. Do you think having him average the same Cleveland stats would matter if he didn't win a title? Ask Robert Horry or Derek Fisher if they'd exchange their titles for statistics or scoring titles. And ask Charles Barkley, Karl Malone or Steve Nash if they'd exchange their MVP's and stats for a title.
I understand that you want LeBron to achieve and reach success in a lot of fields (scoring, MVP's, triple doubles) but it's not like he hasn't proven that he could do it. For 7 seasons in Cleveland, all he did was put up crazy stats after crazy stats. Now it's time to win that title. At the end of the day, all I care about is this team winning the championship.
Re: Wade is holding Lebron back...
What Pauk is trying to say is that Wade needs to chill and take a backseat to Lebron.
Re: Wade is holding Lebron back...
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Re: Wade is holding Lebron back...
This is why LeBron going to South Beach was a terrible choice.
Wade and Bosh is a formidable duo. Two of the nba's elite scorers together, and we already knew how good Wade works with a big(see his ring with Shaq).
But then you put LeBron into that equation rather than some good roleplayers and a top bench, and it's all messed up.
I will always feel that LeBron is suited best as the star of the team, surrounded by mostly roleplayers. He would probably benefit from a low block big who can put up numbers around 20/10 as his second option.
Cleveland was so close to getting it right for LeBron. They were just missing his go to second option. The organization tried many people, but it just wasn't right and never worked, and his mind was probably "I haven't won without stars, now I should win with stars" or something along that line.
Wade is not necessarily holding LeBron back. Rather, they're counterproductive of one anothers skillset.
Re: Wade is holding Lebron back...
[QUOTE=Chaddai]What Pauk is trying to say is that Wade needs to chill and take a backseat to Lebron.[/QUOTE]
Why would he do that when he is equally as important to the team? Without him playing aggressively and like he does now, they wouldn't get anywhere. If you are talking about primary ball-handling and play-making, I understand, but no way in hell should Wade take a step back and let LeBron do everything. :no:
Re: Wade is holding Lebron back...
[QUOTE=Fudge]Yeah, its me.
[IMG]http://starberryicecream.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/kobe2.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Holy shit Kobe has really short fingers? Is that just the angle or are his fingers really that short?
Re: Wade is holding Lebron back...
[QUOTE=NumberSix]Holy shit Kobe has really short fingers? Is that just the angle or are his fingers really that short?[/QUOTE]
that shi happens when you got really tight rings on all five fingers...
:kobe:
Re: Wade is holding Lebron back...
[QUOTE=Doctor Rivers]Wade is the 2nd best SG of all time... lebron can only hope to be half the finals performer he is[/QUOTE]
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
Re: Wade is holding Lebron back...
[QUOTE=LoneyROY7]Unfortunately for pauk, LeBron's individual greatness wasn't enough to win a championship in 7 years with the Cavs.
Wade's on the other hand...was enough. That's why he's wearing that ring.[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately for LoneyROY7..... Lebrons or anybodies individual greatness had never much to do with team accomplishments unless those players had the correct teammates to work with around them..... this is not tennis...
Wade won 1 champinoship.... after that, since 2006, he was killed in the 1st round all the time..... and what did Lebron do with his scrub team during that time?
Its not like Wade got worse after 2006.... he actually got much better.... so why was his teams success so bad?
Care to explain? Wades team was simply not that good anymore....... its that simple!
****ing sick and tired of people like you trying to act like a Championship is the act of one man..............
Just say it.... i know you can..... repeat after me... its not so hard.... lets go:
CHAMPIONSHIP IS A TEAM ACCOMPLISHMENT
Re: Wade is holding Lebron back...
[QUOTE=Chaddai]What Pauk is trying to say is that Wade needs to chill and take a backseat to Lebron.[/QUOTE]
He has.