Re: Wilt Chamberlains playoff stats for dummies:
[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]The ratio of playoff games he played while playing his different roles is not congruent with the ratio of regular season games he played while playing his different roles.
For example:
50% of his career playoff games were played as a defensive anchor in his 30's
But only 33% of his career regular season games were played as that defensive anchor role in his 30's.
This skews his cumulative career vs regular season career stats immensely. It's not difficult to understand.[/QUOTE]
He dropped off in the playoffs immensely during his scoring prime. That is a fact that I already posted. He dropped off in his scoring years and in his defensive anchor years. I guess the old adage is once a choker, always a choker.
Re: Wilt Chamberlains playoff stats for dummies:
[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW][IMG]http://kommein.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/For-Dummies.gif[/IMG]
His playoff games played with his 3 different team roles were disproportionate in frequency relative to his regular season career stats.
[B]Wilt played 24 playoff games as the teams dedicated volume scorer...[/B]
[CODE]Season Age Tm Lg [B]G[/B] MP FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA ORB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS [B]FG%[/B] 3P% FT% MP [B]PTS[/B] [B]TRB[/B] [B]AST[/B]
1959-60 23 PHW NBA 9 415 125 252 49 110 232 19 17 299 .496 .445 46.1 33.2 25.8 2.1
1960-61 24 PHW NBA 3 144 45 96 21 38 69 6 10 111 .469 .553 48.0 37.0 23.0 2.0
1961-62 25 PHW NBA 12 576 162 347 96 151 319 37 27 420 .467 .636 48.0 35.0 26.6 3.1
[B]Combined[/B] NBA [B]24[/B] 1135 332 695 166 299 620 62 54 830 [B].478[/B] .555 47.3 [B]34.6[/B] [B]25.8[/B] [B]2.6[/B]
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Wilt played 56 playoff games as a high-post playmaker and balanced defensive/offensive anchor.[/B]
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Season Age Tm Lg [B]G[/B] MP FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA ORB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS [B]FG%[/B] 3P% FT% MP [B]PTS TRB AST[/B]
1963-64 27 SFW NBA 12 558 175 322 66 139 302 39 27 416 .543 .475 46.5 34.7 25.2 3.3
1964-65 28 PHI NBA 11 536 123 232 76 136 299 48 29 322 .530 .559 48.7 29.3 27.2 4.4
1965-66 29 PHI NBA 5 240 56 110 28 68 151 15 10 140 .509 .412 48.0 28.0 30.2 3.0
1966-67 30 PHI NBA 15 718 132 228 62 160 437 135 37 326 .579 .388 47.9 21.7 29.1 9.0
1967-68 31 PHI NBA 13 631 124 232 60 158 321 85 29 308 .534 .380 48.5 23.7 24.7 6.5
[B]Combined[/B] NBA [B] 56[/B] 2683 610 1124 292 661 1510 322 132 1512 [B].543[/B] .441 47.9 [B]27.0[/B] [B]26.9[/B] [B]5.8[/B]
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[B]Wilt played 80 playoff games as defensive anchor and an [I]opportunistic[/I] scorer.[/B]
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Season Age Tm Lg [B]G[/B] MP FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA ORB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS [B]FG%[/B] 3P% FT% MP [B]PTS TRB AST[/B]
1968-69 32 LAL NBA 18 832 96 176 58 148 444 46 46 250 .545 .392 46.2 13.9 24.7 2.6
1969-70 33 LAL NBA 18 851 158 288 82 202 399 81 42 398 .549 .406 47.3 22.1 22.2 4.5
1970-71 34 LAL NBA 12 554 85 187 50 97 242 53 33 220 .455 .515 46.2 18.3 20.2 4.4
1971-72 35 LAL NBA 15 703 80 142 60 122 315 49 47 220 .563 .492 46.9 14.7 21.0 3.3
1972-73 36 LAL NBA 17 801 64 116 49 98 383 60 48 177 .552 .500 47.1 10.4 22.5 3.5
[B]Combined[/B] NBA [B] 80[/B] 3741 483 909 299 667 1783 289 216 1265 [B].531[/B] .448 46.7 [B]15.8 22.3 3.6[/B]
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A whopping [I]50 percent[/I] of his career [B]playoff games[/B] are played from the age of 32-36, as a defensive anchor.
Where as only [I]32 percent[/I] of his career [B]regular season[/B] games are played from that same age with that same role.
Basically, career playoff and career regular season stats should not be compared directly w/o an understanding of differences like this. Season to season is a better gauge, or simply using the stats I calculated above and comparing them with his regular season stats from the seasons played with that same team-role.[/QUOTE]
Even in the three seasons in which he was the team's "dedicated volume scorer", he still had a fairly significant ppg drop-off from the regular season to the playoffs...
Re: Wilt Chamberlains playoff stats for dummies:
[QUOTE=LoneyROY7]Even in the three seasons in which he was the team's "dedicated volume scorer", he still had a fairly significant ppg drop-off from the regular season to the playoffs...[/QUOTE]
No shame there, he was going up against prime Bill Russell and the Celtics dynasty the majority of those playoff games. Remember, it was only best of 5 in the first round, best of 7 once he faced the Celtics. That team and Bill Russell held him under his normal regular season numbers during the regular season too, not just the playoffs.
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nba needs to release video footage of wilt to dvd. i know they got it. figuratively f[B]u[/B]ck stern.
Re: Wilt Chamberlains playoff stats for dummies:
[QUOTE=MiseryCityTexas]nba needs to release video footage of wilt to dvd. i know they got it. figuratively f[B]u[/B]ck stern.[/QUOTE]
They don't have much if anything that hasn't already been shown in some documentary form or another. That said here's some clips of Wilt in his prime - I'm prepping for a prime Wilt highlight reel.
[url]http://youtu.be/exvv6EqawL4?t=44s[/url]
Re: Wilt Chamberlains playoff stats for dummies:
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So in simple terms, how did Wilt go from a guy who averaged 50 points in one season, and a career 30 point scorer into a 19ppg finals performer??
Re: Wilt Chamberlains playoff stats for dummies:
[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]No shame there, he was going up against prime Bill Russell and the Celtics dynasty the majority of those playoff games. Remember, it was only best of 5 in the first round, best of 7 once he faced the Celtics. That team and Bill Russell held him under his normal regular season numbers during the regular season too, not just the playoffs.[/QUOTE]
Oh, come on.
You guys are always making such a big deal out of Bill Russell defending Wilt in the playoffs.
First and most important, the defense was just not as good as you like to claim, if you watch the footage Wilt is being guarded by Russell alone almost every single time. In fact, I have heard you guys talk about the crazy defense he faced but the defensive schemes are no where to be found and he is beign guarded single handedly almost every time unless his own team spread the floor poorly.
Guys like Shaq and Olajuwon faced much tougher defense and you didn't see guys like them drop in terms of scoring and FG%.